#291 - Iris Koh: The Persecution Of A Dissident In Dytospian Singapore

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Okay Iris, listen, thank you very much. I need to thank one of my supporters by the way. An amazing Singapore man. He bought me lots of coffees and that's not just a reason I love him. But basically he also said you need to speak to Iris and her team. She's this incredible woman.

She's a freedom fighter she is forced to be reckoned with and you really need to look into her case and i was like i'm so sorry i don't know who iris is i look around and normally the first thing i do is i go in my ex feed and i look up and i'm like oh she's following me this is a this is great oh my goodness so then i sent you a message and blah blah blah and then we're chatting and boom here we are but anyway iris before we dive into some of the nitty gritty stuff that you know the court case and whatnot

Can I ask you something? Are you an activist? Have you always been a conspiracy theorist? Do you have multiple tin foil hats? I mean, what's your background? Are you just a crazy person? What did you used to do in the last few years?

Okay, well, all along I've been a music teacher. I'm a musician. I am a choral conductor. I also do musicals. So I work with children and I work with adults and basically we're just singing songs, you know, being happy and that kind of things. I am very, I am an accidental activist not by, not by my own choosing in a way. Somehow I feel called to

do what I mean just to speak up. And then so that's my story. I became accidental activists in July 2021. July 2021. Okay.

And I mean, I've heard conspiracy theories before, right? So people say, oh, deep population is dead. And I'm just like, OK, whatever. It's in the back of my mind. I never thought it's I put it as a conspiracy theories. But now I call myself a conspiracy realist.

Me too. I say that all the time. Iris, snap. I'm telling people, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm a conspiracy realist. Yeah. 100%. So, so what is it exactly back in July 2021 that made you go, what the frags going on? I'm becoming an accidental activist. I also say that as well, by the way, I didn't choose. I'm, I was very happy fixing broken ankles and getting paid very well for it.

respected in the community and nationally. And yeah, I'm where I am. So what happened to you? What made you change? Well, I started seeing people die around me, which is rather scary. OK, usually days after they take the vaccine. And I told myself, I can't keep quiet anymore. I just wrote a little text on my Facebook. I said,

I don't think I'm going to take these vaccines because anyway, it doesn't protect us. I just said something very simple. And then suddenly, lots of people started liking my polls, telling me they're also thinking not to take. And just bear in mind, for some reason, there was a lot of silence. It seems like an atmosphere of fear surrounding the whole topic is that we are not allowed to talk about it. So I was one of the few that talked about it.

And then another high ranking, you know, like this professor, Tomiko, he was an ambassador and he made the post on his Facebook saying that, oh, if you didn't take the vaccine, you should not be allowed to go to the mall. You cannot go to the restaurant and basically shaming us, right? And the next thing I know,

Okay. I mean, I replied to him, my post van viral on Facebook. And then the next thing I know the government did exactly what he suggested. We were banned from going to the restaurants. And then I just set on my computer and something downloaded on me and I just typed one hour. It was done. I didn't change a single word. And before I know it, 15,000 and today 16,000 people have signed the petition. Oh, wow.

Yeah, it's called do not let vaccination status divide us. And that's why it went on to creating the group, healing the divide. Because I kind of knew I read a bit about history, about what happened during World War II, the Jews and all the Nazis and stuff, right? And how they were trying to cause the divide. And

And I really didn't want history to repeat itself, basically. You didn't want a medical apartheid. Oh, listen, well done you. And you know what, that professor that came out and said, oh, everybody should be, you know, should get the shot, otherwise it can't go to the pub restaurant. It was global. We had people rolled out across the world saying the same shit, you know, positions of authority, absolute scumbags that should be hung as far as I'm concerned.

because it completely violated medical ethics and formed consent, bodily autonomy, everything, okay?

But can I just say something? In the West, we have this impression that people in Singapore and China are very obedient, followed authority, are like little, good little robots, good little worker bees. They just do as they're told. Because if I'm not mistaken, Singapore isn't really a true democracy. It's run by a family. It's run by a dynasty, and then you have an assembly that gives an illusion of democracy.

And everybody is pacified because they've got a reasonable standard of living. They get food in their bellies, a roof over their head, even if it's a small house, small apartment.

and they get intoxicated by shopping and materialism. I've been to Singapore a lot of times, and I don't mean to have a dig at it. It's beautiful. It's stunning in some respects. The food's amazing. But I thought the culture was very shallow. People were just walking around the malls, going to work, socializing, eating. It was all centered around consumerism, materialism. Am I right saying this or am I wrong? And this is just a stereotype and I'm a racist.

No, actually, you brought up a very important point because, you know, in a New Year's Eve survey by this newspaper called Mothership, they did a Telegram survey. They say, and they say, what changes in the New Year, like, what resolution would you make them break in a week, okay? And the first one is, at 33%, people said, oh, stop spending money on stupid things. And the second one says,

I don't want to feel so, like, dead inside. People are feeling dead inside, you know, because, and you goes on to the shallowness and the fact that, you know, our society is so material-based. People queue up for stuff toys, you know, and they care about those kinds of things that actually doesn't even affect their life and death.

And then for issues that concern their life and death, they are not talking about it. And this is the very sad reality of what's going on. So was my observation correct then?

Well, the other thing that you talk about, which I can't really, the dynasty thing, I can't really comment on it technically, we're not. But you know, we have the People's Action Party. It's a political party that has been in power for about 60 years already. Okay, so that's why, and they have a lot of power. And that's one of the reasons it may feel like how come

But the government has got so much power over the people. And technically the government is meant to be civil servants, right? They are supposed to follow our will of the people. But somehow they feel like our overlords.

when to vaccinate, what to put in our bodies and so forth. I mean, when did that happen? When, how did we become like this? That's the question that we must ask ourselves. So, I mean, I'm just aware that there's a Lee family and they're a political family. And basically,

They kind of run Singapore, if I'm not mistaken. Well, the first Prime Minister of Singapore is Lee Kuan Yoo. So he is the so-called the Founding Father of modern Singapore. Lee Kuan Yoo. His son is Lee Xian Long. At some time late last year, he officially stepped down as the Prime Minister of Singapore.

Okay, and that was a big thing. It was a big thing. And there is an ongoing family feud between him and his brother, Li Xinjiang. Okay, over the Oxley property, which is the family home, but it's also where the birthplace of PAP is. So Li Xinjiang is now in exile in the UK.

So you may have known about the story. Lee, Lee, Lee, you want Kuan Yu is an exile. No, no. Lee and Yang, Lee, Lee Kuan Yu died. Okay. Lee Kuan Yu died. Okay. There is. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So the founder, the founder. Yes. No, I'm at this. I'm at the sun. It's the sun. Yeah. I'm in exile.

Yes, the former prime minister. No, the former prime minister's brother, younger brother, is an exile in the UK. And he cited that, you know, he is being basically bullied by the authorities and that they can use the organs of states to target him. That's why he says, and his sister also said the same thing.

I don't feel sorry for these people. That family, I think, has $40 billion in assets and wealth. They basically run Singapore like their own fiefdom. And the funny thing is, the reason why I'm bringing this to attention is a lot of people in the West are fed this propaganda that we need to bring democracy to Libya. We need to bring democracy to Syria when actually they have democracy. And at the same time, they support

And countries like Saudi Arabia, which is a kingdom run by a family, the South family, and they support Qatar, which is run by the tani or something family. And then they support UAE, the United Arab Emirates, where there's just rich families. And then they support Singapore, their greatest ally in the Far East, which is run by a family. And so what I'm trying to say is the West, you know, supports oligarchs.

It supports seriously undemocratic places, and kind of like just brushes over it and goes, there are friends, there are allies, there are beacons of democracy and freedom and liberty, and look at these bad nasty countries where they're not democratic and they're run by tyrants, and they use words like regimes, these regimes,

You know, I'm sorry, I would argue that Singapore is a run by regime. You know, I mean, but you see what I mean is it's a constant propaganda is a constant lies that we're being fed. It's just incredible. But anyway, coming back to Singapore, are most people just very obedient worker drones, blinded by, blinded by materialism? Or am I, is that an overgeneralization? Are there lots of people who are feisty and waking up and thinking,

something's really wrong with our society? Well, I wish to tell you different, but I think, you know, like, if I compare our society with, say, even Malaysia, next door neighbor or Japan, they have got lots of doctors standing up and basically speaking and people, you know, joining them. But in Singapore, I am, unfortunately, one of the very very few

voices, if not the only, I mean, I'm the loudest, I think regarding the vaccine issue. There's a few more, like there's another politician going saying who their party asked for the MRI needs jets to be stopped. But apart from that, many people are silent. The both who are in high positions, you will never hear them say anything. Even politicians, when I approach them, many would not even talk to me.

Or they would not really put their foot down to have basically a position regarding this. So I'm very disappointed actually. Back in April 2021, I believe there were 12 doctors who wrote a petition.

to ask the government to provide China vaccines for the population, and in which we subsequently got the China vaccines. So there were at least 12 doctors doing that. But in general, maybe we have some retired doctors. Those 12 doctors were asking for the China vaccine.

as additional to the Pfizer Moderna because these technologies were somewhat safer.

Okay, so they were asking that. Yeah, I don't know. They said that about the Russian one as well. And they said that about AstraZeneca. They said, oh, it's different. I've come to the conclusion that actually they were all doing the same thing. They're all ultimately creating spike protein and editing the genetic thing. It was all the same, by the way.

Yeah, well, I didn't take anything. So I wasn't in favor of the China ones as well. But many people needed some kind of other alternative due to work and all that. I mean, the government is the biggest employer in Singapore. There's many, many public servants and there are many government linked organizations as well as companies.

I mean, that's what I meant. I mean, like Singapore's run like a family that's the government and it employs most people. And that's, this is what I mean, it's a very, it's very profitable and successful country. I think that's also because it's been supported by the West and it's, you know, there's a reason for that. But that

Comfort comes at the cost of liberty, freedom, and choice. You don't question the hand that feeds you. But going back to the doctors and whatnot, and what about the grassroots? Are there people protesting, marching, demanding that this stops? Are you really a fringe?

Okay, let me tell you about the political landscape. Okay, as mentioned, the PAP has been in power for the longest time. There hasn't been any time in our history that the opposition party has taken over. So they basically has been sitting on the throne for a long time. And there is in Singapore, you can't just do public protests. There is something called the public order act.

Okay? Even one person holding up a blacker that's considered a protest and you can go to jail for it. And there are people who have gone to jail for putting up a one man.

So, are you kidding me? I'm not kidding you. I'm not kidding you. And there is a place. And the only way to get around this is if you apply to national parks, to go to this place called Hongling Park, which is the official place to have any kind of protest. But you have to apply for it. And during COVID and in 2021, 2022, Hongling Park was closed.

So we couldn't protest. Wow, because over here, and over here in the UK, we have yellowboard signs. And it's around the world, actually, I think, maybe started in Australia, I'm not sure. But I've joined them quite a few times. I can't go most times because it clashes with my kids swimming, and I take my kids swimming. But basically, at roundabouts and corners, we put yellow placards up.

You guys are living in a dream. You are the freedom that we wish we have. You cannot even put a placard up and just complain about something. And this is meant to be Singapore Free Democratic Society.

This is what I was talking about, this is what I was talking about. To me Singapore sounds like a very authoritarian state and the people are just kept in their place by drowning them in food and shopping and materialism. Yes, now it's 2025 but we are living in 1984.

Yeah. Thank you very much. You're very much. Okay. Am I right that even the opposition party is run by members of that family, that dynasty family? Well, technically no. Technically no. Although I think there are

In my view, there's quite a lot of control oppositions. And basically, it's not even what I say, right? Because it's like a playbook all around the world. How do you control the opposition? You control the opposition by being one of them. And that's what they did also in this whole COVID vaccine rollout.

There is a control opposition group in my view that masqueraded as a vaccine injured group. Oh, right. We'll come to that in a second. Who is Lee Xian Yang? He is the brother of the of the previous prime minister. And he's the one that ran off to London and London. So he used to be a member of the opposition progress Singapore party as well, by the way, just FYI.

yeah he he was from PSP that was after his father died and maybe he felt like PAP is no longer what it used to be and then he joined the PSP but not really he never ran for office he just mostly show his support

OK, OK. Yeah. So I've been told by several people. Oh, Ahmed, there's no such thing as controlled opposition. And no, it's not a useful thing to do. It causes division in our ranks and blah, blah, blah. And, you know, I'm kind of sympathetic to that to some degree.

And the reason why, and I should warn you, Iris, is I've been accused of controlled opposition. I've been told, you know, you say in my studio, who made your studio? Where'd you get the money from? And why are you so successful in such a short space of time? And who are you? And what's your background? And who's supporting you? And as you can see, I've got my MI6 handlers here. I've got the CIA sitting opposite me.

I've got all these people supporting me and doing all my research for me and funding me billions.

So honestly, I kid you know, I've been accused of that. And I wonder whether they're the ones that are controlled opposition to accuse me of control. I mean, it's just, it gets really murky. But I also think there's a lot of just narcissists coming into this field. I used to think as an orthopedic surgeon, orthopedic surgeons were arrogant, type a difficult pieces of shit to deal with, you know, really.

You know, typical arrogant surgeon think they're the best, you know, backstabbing and, you know, competitive. I thought they were a hard bunch of people to deal with. Oh my God. They are like kindergarten kids compared to the so-called freedom movement, right? They are amateurs. They are nothing compared to some of the people that I've been now dealing with. The backstabbing, the egos, the arrogance,

You know, the false personas, like the projected persona publicly, but privately, they are completely different animals. And you're just thinking, what the fuck is going on here? So I don't think all of them are controlled opposition. I think a lot of them are just narcissists.

A lot of them are self-serving, egotistical. They're wanting to make a name for themselves and want to make money or career for themselves. They want to get on a bandwagon. I think some of them are chaos agents. They're just thrown in to just cause disruption and infighting.

I think some of them are controlled indirectly and unwillingly and unknowingly. And I think some of them are controlled directly, knowingly. And it's very difficult. Now, having told you my experience, tell me about the controlled opposition in Singapore and why you think it's the case. Tell me about it. OK, so I have written an article about this. I will give you the link afterwards. OK, so back in April 2021.

Around, I heard that this group started on Telegram. It's called the SG Suspective Vaccine Injury Group. And I joined the group in May. This was before I started my own group. And then it was there that I started seeing quite a lot of injuries in Singapore and deaths following the COVID-19 vaccines. And in July, when I started speaking up, and I actually was belonging in that group for a few months, and when I started speaking up,

This lady from that group started talking to me and making friends with me. And then we had a following up after my event because I feel that she was actually basically trying to control me, which I didn't want to be controlled. And then she put out a message in her telegram with all the admins saying that,

What they are doing is basically trying to help the government to manage dissenting voices. And I'm thinking to myself, wow, who are you? Why are you helping the government manage dissenting voices? Then it dawned on me. And basically, I'm suing her, by the way. Her name is, and she accused me of being seditious.

Okay, and all I wanted to do right at the start. Okay, I mean, I've sued different groups. I've sued the newspaper. We have sued the health minister. I wanted to sue the government for crimes against humanity and all these things. And basically that's what I mean. That's the only legal thing that we can do. We can't protest much except at Hongling Park. And even though it is very controlled during COVID, there was nothing we can that place was shut down. Okay.

So the only thing left to me is basically swing what else can we do, right? And that would have been a legal thing. But in her view, I'm seditious and all that. And that group controls many of the vaccine injuries group. So it is a very good plan because you know why? They have a lot of COVID vaccine injured people in that group.

So, all they did after we had the following up was they started going to these injured people and telling them to avoid me and healing the divide. You know, sometimes they would, this patient, these people, they would post certain things on their Facebook or on their blogs. And we just reposted these in our groups. And then the next thing we know, the patients who come and tell us,

to take it down and remove it from our telegram when it's already public. Okay. And I didn't really understand what was going on. So what I was saying was here in the West, we've had certain figures to law fear against other so-called activists. And you're like, what? What is that all about? And you might have heard, for example, Malone versus Breggins, Malone versus Jane Ruby.

And you just think, why are we doing this? What's happening here? And so it's kind of bizarre and crazy. And like I said, my experience is that there's something weird going on. The accusations that people have made against me. I just feel like

Why would the enemy, the enemy design and plan all of their evil plans and not take into consideration the fact that there will be some people opposing them? So we need to lead that group as well. Yes. I think it's just logical. I don't think that's conspiratorial. I think it's just another conspiracy reality. It's just they are very smart. They know what they're doing. They've been doing this a very long time. They're not idiots.

And they will have picked and groomed certain individuals to lead the charge from the other side. And again, some of them are directly controlled and some are indirectly controlled. Some are knowingly controlled, some are unknowingly controlled. This is just conspiracy reality.

Yes, absolutely. And definitely from my experience, you know, this is just based on my experience. And I think it's a very, very dark world, but it's very well organized. We must understand that this thing didn't happen overnight. It took years and years of training.

And there is many, many decades of war, lessons to draw from, even political lessons to draw from. It's a known fact that how do you control the opposition by being the opposition that's just

Common sense. Common sense. Right. Listen, I want to share something with you. So I want to talk about your court case. Yeah. So you've been subjected to law fair. And on the 21st of January 2022, about six months after you decided to become an accidental activist, you were arrested and held.

for 15 days for investigations. But two days after they held you, they charged you. And that you've been, I think there's like 14, 15 different charges. But the first one is you conspired criminally with Jipson Kwa, who I believe is a doctor, and we'll talk about him in a second.

about dishonestly making false representations to the Ministry of Health. So anyway, in summary, what they said was, you claimed to vaccinate people when you actually didn't, you gave them saline injections and then in order to obtain certificate vaccination. And this certificate vaccination was important because like you just said, they banned you from participating in society.

I don't know whether they were mandating it for work. I don't know if that was the case or not. But you can imagine why. If you didn't want the vaccine, you'd quite like to get one of these certificates. But this was, you were acquitted and this charge was dropped. There was no trial on May 2024. More than two years later, they actually dropped this charge. On the 3rd of February,

you were charged with tearing up a statement from a police officer. So they've said, sign this statement and you're like, whatever, no, and you tear it up. And now that's obstruction to some kind of justice or whatever. I don't know what, but they were charging you on that. Do you want to comment on these two things first before we move on?

Okay, the first charge is so-called like a holding charge. So when they put me in Riemann, they needed a charge to hold me for seven days and another seven days. So that was the original charge before they basically get more facts of the matter.

So apparently after investigations, they just decided to drop that one because there were other charges, including the doctor plus each one with different patients, okay? So that one was dropped. So maybe nothing too, but the funny thing was that they wanted me to, they came to me and asked me if I wanted a deal, you know? The deal was like, I plead guilty to some, they would drop this one. This was before they actually dropped it. And of course, I said, no, I'm innocent, I'm not pleading guilty to anything.

But they dropped this one. So they were going to drop it anyway. But they were just going to come and tell me, hey, do you want to please? So by any way, thank God I wasn't bullshitted into that. OK, the second one. OK, so this one happened during Riemann. What happened was that I was very traumatized by the investigations. And I wanted to see this. I wanted to, I requested to see the supervisor of the investigation officer. And I was taken to this female police officer by the name of Co-Challa.

Okay. This is while you're in remand. Yes. And I asked her, can we have a conversation, please? And she said, yes, but I have to record it. And I said, and I asked her one more time. So I just want to be sure we are allowed, we can have a conversation. She said, yes, but I have just to record it. And what happened after that was not a conversation, it became an interrogation and statement taking.

which is actually very improper because they're supposed to give me the caution statements. They're supposed to tell me they're taking my statements, but I thought I was having a conversation with her. So at the end of it, she passed me the paper and

Basically, I saw, I was reminded that we were going to have a conversation, and I just basically lost it, and I just tore the paper, and I said, and yeah, so basically that... But the thing is that I didn't even know that it was a statement, so I'm still going to plead not guilty for this, because she didn't introduce herself.

As the investigating officer, she just told me she's the I.O. senior and I was supposed and in my view, I was there to make a complaint about the investigating officer. So this is a second charge. My lawyer did tell me that what I should have done is you just cross out the thing and said these are not my statements and I won't be charged.

But I was really very upset by then because so many so many improper things have happened to me by then. So all I can say to that is God bless you and your human being. And the fact is you've got fire in your belly. And the problem is so many people are sleepwalking through life and have no fire in the belly.

I'll give an example, right? There's hooligans here in the UK, football hooligans, okay? Much of the world, actually, Europe as well, but in the UK, right? They're burly men, they're many be like tough and rough and, oh yes, swaying, you know, holding their beer cans up for a fight, just articulating swear words, you know, against opposition, you know, they're the big tough man, tough man, right?

But when the government came and took their jobs and forced them and their loved ones to take an experimental shot and told them they can't go to the pub and they can't go to the park and they can't go to the gym, all these big tough men just stayed at home and went, okay, all right, okay, government, okay. They had where was the fire in their belly? Where was that aggression? It just disappeared. They were cowards. And what I'm trying to say is,

So many people just did that. The government said, don't do this. We're taking away your freedoms. We're taking away your rights. We're taking away your businesses. We're going to indent you with money and we're going to poison you. And everybody went, OK, thank you. Thank you, government. And the fact is, you sound like a feisty woman. You've been remanded treatment. And you've got fire in your belly. I don't blame you. I don't blame you for reacting the way you did. But listen,

What about this doctor, Gypsen Kwa? Who is he and what's the story? Hi, me again. You're listening to the Doc Malek podcast. This show is 100% independent and fully funded by listeners like yourself. So if you wish to support Ahmed in all that he is doing, then please subscribe to his channel on Spotify or on his sub-stack or simply buy him a coffee with one of the donation links which can be found at DocMalek.com. Now, let's get back to the show.

Okay, well, he was introduced to me by a doctor, a friend of mine who was my singing student. I know her for 10 years. And when the situation came along, I spoke to her and she said maybe I could talk to Dr. Jipson because he was a musician like me. So she thought that I would get some sympathetic ear. I first met him around late August.

I went to his clinic once, only I only met him once in real life. And then the rest of the time we were just conversing on WhatsApp, mostly messages, 99% of the time, I hardly even spoke to him on the phone. So I do not know what conspiracy that could be. He did tell me that he could give a synopharm according to body rate of the person, which I thought was a good idea because I have four cats. And when I see the vet,

Every time they have to weigh the cat before they give any kind of medication. So I just thought it must be the good thing to do. Maybe he's just taking the extra step to basically give according to body weight of the person. And so I recommended a couple of people to him, regard for the single farm vaccinations. And then I recommended hundreds of patients to him because what happened in December 2021 was that the government said,

that to remain unvaccinated, you have to take a PET test pre-event testing every day at a clinic. It's like going to cost you like $30 each testing. So you just imagine if you work 20 days a month, that's $600. Wow. How many people can afford $600 per month to stay unvaccinated? So it's not just that inconvenience of going for a test every day. You have to pay for the test. Yes.

So I talked to Dr. Jipson and he basically said, okay, he could give a special $150 flat rate per month.

to people and then it could do remote as well. So they could just do it online, which I thought was a really great idea. So I told that to my group and hundreds of people sign up. And then that's how some of the patients that apparently, you know, there was some, his clinic assistant Thomas, he, you know, sold some facts.

vaccinations to them like i say i'm not part of them i really don't know what happened okay so but basically

They want me. So since now, there's a convenient, I recommended them to the doctor. So I must be part of it too, right? So that's the basic story about this, how I got involved. Wow. Wow. Wow. And what is the doctor now? OK, let me tell you something very interesting. So when I was in the police station, right? And then the police were like, would Dr. Jipson say, you know, has it, huh?

I know, but as I know mean, firstly, I'm unvaccinated. If there's ever such a deal, why don't I take it? I should give it to my husband and give it to my brother and my, you know, people that I want. I just closed down healing the divide. Everybody just go for the fake vaccine. Then even it shouldn't be just solved the problem like that. But, you know, what I wanted to do from day one is to sue the government.

which I have done many times. I am still suing them and still holding them to account and I need evidence of harm.

When I send people to Dr. Justin, I even asked him to take the D-dimer test that before and after. So I was really, I don't want fake vaccine because I've spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to sue the government, right? I need evidence of harm. So since these people are going to get vaccinated anyway, so give me your data. Maybe if you die, maybe this is for humanity. Help us out. Wow. Wow. And when you said you sued the government previously, did you win? What happened with those cases?

Okay, so I sued Straight Times, the newspaper in around October 2021. That's the government mouthpiece. Yes, and they say something about unvaccinated people are basically causing harm to society, blah, blah, blah, this kind of propaganda, right? So I sued them and their defense was

These are not statements of fact. What? They say these are not statements of fact. So their defense was these are not statements of fact. They were trying to say it's basically an opinion piece. Too bad if you believe us and too bad if people hate you because of our opinion piece. Okay. Wow. It's like, it's like saying, it's like people like Jacinda Hare and saying, we never forced you to take the vaccine. We never forced you.

Like us telling you that you can't go to the pub or the restaurant, you can't fly, you can't travel, you need a PCR test every day, you know, and us restricting your quality of life and us mandating, you know, so that you have to work. If you want to work, you need the vaccine. That's not us forcing you. We didn't put a gun to your head. We're not forcing you. So anyway, we discontinued the lawsuit because if the defense was that it's not statements of fact, we basically got what we wanted, the admission that they were performing propaganda.

Wow. Wow. Do you know? Do you know? I had a guy called Angus Dalglish. He's very well known and he's going around the world on a tour. It's kind of amazing. He goes around on the tour and he claims to be, you know,

very skeptical of the vaccines and whatnot. But look at this, you know, he changed his tune. And I had him on my podcast, but sadly, he won't come back on again. He doesn't respond to my messages. But Lord, what is this? Here we go. Okay, I'll just accept it.

What every young person who fears the jab must, must, capital letters be told? Vaccine expert, Angus Dalglish, dismantles beliefs that have seen rates stall amongst the 18 to 30-year-olds. And Angus Dalglish published this in the 22nd of July, 2021. And he goes against the backlash against COVID vaccines amongst young people is the most dangerous medical misunderstanding over times, fueled by bogus information on social media.

It's not only putting hundreds of thousands of young people's lives at risk, but threatening the entire country's recovery from the pandemic. The latest NHS figures show that nearly a quarter of Britain's age 30 to 34 have not yet had their first dose. And so demand for vaccines amongst the young kids have plummeted by 80%. So here,

In an attempt to persuade the under-thirties why they must have the job, one of our foremost vaccine experts, Professor Angles Douglass gives us forensic analysis and a rebuttal of some of the most common objections of young people.

So he goes, you know, one of the ones who was young, people only get mild symptoms. And he goes, it's entirely false to assume that because of a bad of COVID seems mild or asymptomatic, it cannot leave lasting damage. This is proffed out glish writing this. I had COVID, so I don't need a job. Pretty goddamn obvious. We don't know how long antibodies and immunity last after COVID.

Many people wrongly assumed they have had COVID. Blah, blah, blah. A vaccine is highly effective insurance policy against the disease. One which research has proven last at least six months. This is Angus Dalglish. The tests were too rushed. This is a regular concern of anxiety.

And then it goes on and goes, the result was a set of vaccines that have proved highly effective against a brand new virus. And the UK jabbing program was conducted with military efficiency. Yeah, because it was a military operation. Yeah. Of course it was. In phase three trials, there were thousands tested on people to see how effective they were. Yeah. The group who received the vaccine and control group who received a placebo were closely monitored. No, they weren't. The placebo group was given the vaccine just months later.

Yeah. And it goes on and on. And he totally debunks it. Vaccines will change our DNA. Yes, they do. No, and he argues they don't. It might make me infertile. The fear of infertility has made many young women reluctant to have the vaccine. There's no reliable evidence, none that I'm aware of that is ever affected. If you're planning to get pregnant, get inoculated.

This is Angus Douglass. And you know, Angus Douglass is now one of the so-called leading voices speaking out against all of this. But I had him on my podcast. Yeah, yeah, he's turned his chin. And it's like, oh, really, Angus? Maybe, you know, wow, you were really pushing this. And on my podcast, he said, I was coerced and that piece was ghost written. And I was coerced into writing this piece. Wow. Yeah.

Yeah. So the Straits of Singapore, the Straits mouthpiece, the Guardian, the Daily Mail, the BBC, they're all propaganda arms of the government and the globalist corporations. They can spout lies and bullshit and criminal acts and nothing happens.

But you, my dear lady, go on Telegram channel and just raise concerns and now look, your life's been turned upside down and you're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars defending against Trump top charges. Does that feel fair to you? Absolutely no, but I think that

There will be justice, divine justice in a way, because I'm meeting them in court, I'm placing my accusers in court, and shit is starting to come out, man. Shit is starting to come out. They have uncovered that a high-ranking police officer

He has a secret meeting with the doctor. In which he asked the doctor to embellish his statements against me, not enough. He didn't show enough remorse. He needs to show more by putting the cold-acused Irish cold.

under the bus more, so that he could get bill. So this has been, there has been reviewed in court so far. Say that again, what did that high ranking officer do? So according to Dr. Jipson's lawyer, he said that this, this high ranking officer told Dr. Jipson that he didn't show enough remorse and he has to embellish his statements against me.

at more salt and pepper and stuff, okay, to make his statements at more embellish, you know, so that so that he could get bill, because at that time he wasn't offered any bill. We were all locked up at the same time. He went out earlier than me, okay, so, and he was basically cooperative from day one because of circumstances which I have now come to know.

And of course, I was thinking, why would he be telling lies? And that's because of all these coercion, which I didn't know existed. So basically, if you want to get out, doctor, you need to spice up your statement and paying Iris in a bad light. And if you do that, then you can get out. So what was the coercion? What was the circumstances that he was under? He had at that time, he at that time was already in Vermont, like for seven days. Okay. And

Because it's not out in court yet, so I can't... Okay, the things that have been out in court is the fact that he was... It has been found out that before he went to police cantamen on the 21st of January, he was an ammo hitch the day before, and he was there for a long time, okay? So he was at the Ministry of Health already. So before he went into the police station, he was at the Ministry of Health all day. Yeah, and he got very little sleep. Not much. What I hear is no food.

Am I right that they were also interrogating and demanding explanations at the middle of the night? It was running through the middle of the night. Yeah, that one is not out in court yet, so I can't say that part yet.

Okay. Publicly. But what has been established is that there was an MOH cup. Okay. And there was an MOH statement that Dr. Jason give at the first day before he was transported to Kentonman police station at 6 something in the morning where he was interviewed by the police officer at 6 55 a.m. and again at 9 something in the morning and

Just bear in mind he hasn't slept the night before. Two statements, okay, by the officer who seem to just know that some kind of conspiracy without referring to any MOH statements is not the normal way that police officers do their investigations, I am sure. You don't ask about the conspiracy in your first question without referring to any statements. That's from my own layperson point of view.

Shortly after that, okay, he was processed by the second police officer that was on the stand. Okay, and this officer was preparing for Dr. Justin to be reminded. So he had to be processed and he was preparing all the paperwork that day. After he was processed, they came for me on the 21st of January in the afternoon. So I'm starting to know the facts of the matter and what happened and

So these are the things which happened. And then with this second police officer on the 20, and it appears that on the day, okay, so he had a secret meeting because this unrecorded is not in any official capacity. And the lawyer said that Dr. Jifson was told never to tell anyone about this meeting with this high ranking police officer, including his lawyers.

You know, it's like one of those people who like to more or less people say, I don't do these bad things. You shouldn't tell anyone. You shouldn't tell whatever. That's what the lawyers said. Of course, the police officer denied that. And the other thing that happened was, so my lawyer was also crossing this officer. Why is the doctor treated so well? He was given so many phone calls to various people. And I always was not even given a single phone call. I wasn't even

a lot to call my lawyer. I wasn't even allowed to call my husband. For 15 days, that's half a month. That's half a month of not knowing what is happening on the outside. And apparently, what Dr. Juson told me that he was also given this park wall, which is a street road step meet a few times, okay? For good behavior. Because he was basically behaving very well. He was giving statements against me. And then finally, he was brought to this high-ranking police officer in which then we asked them, okay, so what was the meeting about?

Then the officer said, Tambik Singh wanted to ask about his well-being, how he was doing. Then my lawyer said, why, how come Irish didn't get to see him? How come Thomas didn't get to see him? Then of course the lawyers were asking, does the hit investigator of Kenterman usually meet with the accused?

And the answer is no. It's a highly, highly unusual meeting, which was not recorded officially in anywhere. Why? There is no denial. The police officer didn't deny that this happened because he arranged it, and he was present at that meeting together with Donald Jipson and Thampixing. And in March 4th,

Onwards, okay, there are eight days of trials in March. Tampik Singh will take the stand and we will get to cross him and find out more. And Tampik Singh is the police officer, the high ranking police officer. Yes, he's like third in command in the Kincandaman Police Station. And he was also present at the MOH the night before. The Ministry of Health, right? Yes. So listen, it sounds to me like you were always the target. They've identified that you're this rogue, uncontrolled individual,

You've got your own channel. You're not staying in the vaccine in your group. They can't control you. You're a wild card and they need to somehow get you. And the way to get you is through this doctor who's being pressured, sounds like he's a bit weak. And it's like, look, if you want your life back, you know what, you need to dump it all in Iris. Anyway, let's move on. So if we look at the charges,

I have to admit, I love some of them. So it says, you've got all these charges about fake vaccines, ones that you've not given any vaccine, you weren't there, you weren't in the room, you've actually told people to just get this vaccine from this doctor because he might be giving a body weight appropriate dosage.

They add more, they add more charges, you get five more charges, these involve violation of public order and harassment. And what, what is it? So you told 879 members of your healing the divided telegram group. Do you know what?

voluntarily obstruct the public servants of the Ministry of Health by flooding the Ministry of Health Quality Service feedback and hotlines and demanding that their call be escalated for follow-up by Ministry of Health staff. So what were you telling them there? What was the thing that you're telling your followers to agree? So what happened was that

Okay, this message I believe was on a Monday. So on that Saturday, the government had an announcement that if you're unvaccinated, you cannot go to the malls.

Okay. And over the weekend, I was, I myself was flooded with distress calls and messages. People telling me they are suicidal. They don't know what to do anymore. They are, they don't want to die, blah, blah, blah. And you know, so I, I became the help desk for, for this group of people. And overnight, more than a thousand people join my telegram group.

Okay. Actually, the number is wrong. Just to put it into context so that people understand Singapore is very humid. It's very hot. It's very built up. A lot of high-rise apartments, roads. There's not many places you can just go and relax and walk and get out in nature. It's a very urbanized little island. Yes. And a lot of people go to the mall for social activities. The goal there, for the cinema, for eating,

It's air conditioned, it's cool. So if you can't go, you're really like in a prison. Am I right? Yeah, well, it's not just for entertainment, people go to the mall. We go to the mall for their shop for groceries to buy their medical supplies and do all these other very important things, even for banking. These are essential services which are provided in the mall.

And in October, they suddenly said that if you didn't take the vaccine, you cannot go to tomorrow. So obviously everybody is stressed. And out of this announcement, many people went for the injection and many flooded to my platform. Okay. So on Monday, what happened? And they made the announcement on a Saturday, where all the government agencies were closed. And there was nobody they could complain to, except to me and my channel.

And they were coming to me as if I'm working for the government, but I'm not. I shouldn't be managing these distress calls because I'm not even trained to handle suicide stuff, right? But they were coming to me. So when I got the news, and basically it was the message that I sent out was a copy and paste from a message that I received. And there's only one problem with that message, which is the word flood.

Okay. So I just put it on my channel for a few minutes. And then after that, I decided to change the website to call. And the message is still on my telegram. And then in November 2021, they investigated me for this. Okay. For three years, they didn't do anything. But last year, they decided to charge me for this. Okay, which to me is really, really, uh, uh, it's, it's really,

vindictive because people really need that help. They need a place to go to for counseling, you know? I get that. No, I'm good for you. I was in the exact same thing. And then the 12th charge is something very similar. Basically, it was just in a different group. Again, I would have done the exact same thing.

And I love 13th charge and 14th charge, which are the same, but different groups where you said, listen, guys, you need to go to your doctors and say, look, I want to book in for a vaccine and go and record it, record the consent process, record the consultation. And if they can't tell you what's in the shot and they can't tell you the safety and efficacy individualized for your care, maybe you should report them to the Singapore Medical Council, especially if they don't give permission to record answers and consider

consider this. And I think that's great. Absolutely. Hold these doctors to account because I can tell you right now, it's my opinion. No one in the world who had a shot had informed consent. No doctor can tell you what's in the shots, what the ingredients are. They can't give you your proper safety profile. Nothing. So well done. It's great that you told them to go and do that.

Well, the thing was really a last desperate move because MOH refused to come to our meetings, MOH refused to answer our questions and they were doing trials at the KKH hospital and they were rolling out the children's back scenes before the trials were completed.

And the parents were very worried because they didn't want the children to be denied school, to be denied all these CCA and staff and said, look, since they are not answering us here, they should at least answer the vaccination center where they are supposed to answer. Unless you want everybody to just roll up their sleeves, shut up and get injected.

Well, that's exactly what they wanted to do. And I don't want to go over it, but I've talked about this. I was under a lot of pressure and coercion to get the shot by my colleagues, by the hospital, by my family. And I went to the vaccine center to get more information and consider getting the shot. I was like, OK, but I'm going to ask a few more questions. And before even answering my questions, the needle was in my arm. And I went and sat in the car and cried.

I never had a second shot or any more shots and that's when I got angry and became an accidental activist. Wow, that's really shocking that they just did it.

there was no consent. I said, do that. I had so many questions to ask you. And they're like, it's, you know, this we don't have time. Yeah, we don't have time for that. You're here. You've consented. I went, no, I haven't. I haven't. You know, you've just, you think it's implied consent just because I'm sat down, but I've got so many questions to ask and you've just done it. Did you sign any paper?

No signing paper, nothing. You should sue them, man. You didn't give them your consent. So let me tell you about the justice system here. Listen, I've spoken to enough victims around the world and here in the UK to tell you that, in my opinion, there is no justice. All the legal systems are captured and controlled by the governments and then by the corporations and globalists and the cabal.

and they use law fair to drain you of your time, your energy, and your money, and to destroy you. And there's very little justice. It's very hard to get justice. But also the medical boards, you mentioned the Singapore medical boards referring to the doctors. I just did a podcast with Bruce Dooley, and he's unraveled the connection of how all the medical boards around the world are controlled by this medical board organization coming out of Texas.

And they're all saying the same thing. They all punish the doctors in the same way. And doctors go there to die in these tribunuses. One of my friends last year killed herself, Dr. Jackie Stone in Zimbabwe. Oh, my goodness. Too much for her. Oh, it would be such a...

They take away your livelihood, they take away your purpose, you know, your ability to treat people, they destroy, they crush you. Anyway, let's move on. Look, I understand also that this court case is still ongoing. Before we move on to other things, is there anything else you want to talk about in the court case? Well, I hope more people can come in March to see the, we have an open court system.

So, March 4 to 7, 11 to 14. And what I want to say is that...

The good thing, okay, I will tell you a little bright light in, I mean, I feel that the current judge that we have is very, seems very patient and appears to be kind, okay? And so on the second day, Dr. Jason's lawyer asked the judge, he said, I'm about to disclose something which may need some discretion. Are we okay to, can I do it in open court or do you prefer chambers?

And Judge said, well, we have an open court system. Let's hear it. And because the reporters were in the room, and when he brought up about the high ranking police officer, that's when the reporters started taking it down, right? And it was published. And this piece of news is published in the newspaper, which to me is a glimmer of hope. But day three and day four, there was no more reporters, no more stories in the newspaper.

Okay, and was there any more discussions on day three day four? What else were you talking about in day three day four?

Well, they were crossing the police officer that arranged the meeting with the high ranking officer and talking about how well he treated Dr. Jipson and how badly he treated me. And basically, so he was being crossed, you know, understand for that. And I mean, of course, more things that were being revealed during those two days, including the fact that Dr. Jipson, I mean,

his assistant is called Thomas so he was also asking me he's self-represented he doesn't have any lawyer so he was asking this IO the daughter Jason asks you for his medical records say yeah

Did you give it to him? No. Why not? Basically, they didn't give him any medical records to refer to, and he was basically supposed to, based on his memory and creativity, point out patients that he supposedly gave the fake vaccination to.

And he asked the IO, do you know what does fake saline vaccination mean? So I mean this word fake saline vaccination is going to be important, I believe, in the coming trials. What is fake saline vaccination? So the doctor said that he gave the real thing, right? So fake saline, fake saline doesn't mean real vaccine.

Anyway, that one is going to be discussed and I am just hoping that people around the world will pay attention about what is happening here in Singapore and we have an open court system. And the other victory that I have is that in December, the courtroom that we were assigned was very small. It's only 12 seats. And I requested to the court to get a bigger courtroom and they have agreed. And now we're getting a much bigger courtroom with 60 seats. Wow.

Yeah. So that's a glimmer of hope. And I really, because if the newspapers not going to come, then I'm going to have to invite people to come and see for yourself and to know what's happening and for. I would love to come and be there, but, um, yeah, listen, I really hope a lot of people come and watch. Um, you know, it's funny. There's another doctor, Dr. Kirk Mir in the States. He's a plastic surgeon and he's in court.

and he's facing significant jail time for apparently all giving fake vaccines. He's really being persecuted. It's just desperately sad. You know, we talk about 15-minute cities and all that kind of stuff. I've heard that not just to forget the 15-minute cities that Singapore is now a digital city, and it's part of the whole new EF plan. Do you know anything about that? Well, I know about the WEF. It's very...

I would say it seems to have infiltrated every part of our lives. In 2023, I went there was a presidential election and our current president sits on the WEF board of trustees. I went there to object. Really?

Is this Taman Shamuga Ratnam? Taman Shamuga Ratnam. I was the only one. Okay, I mean, I wrote the petition. Okay, one day before the, what do you call it, where they have the nominated, the nomination, I went to object at the nomination center. Okay, they refused to let me go through. All right. And cameras were on me, all the press knows about it, but there was nothing.

The next day nobody talked about it. Only one brave reporter there asked one question and he was in a very small part of an article later on. But nobody, okay? And I objected so much. I made petition and I made videos and my video was seen like 300,000 times. And then after that, the government came up with a bill.

to say that they are making provisions for the president to be part of international organizations like the WES and members of the cabinet to be part of that. So actually, as the sitting president, there he is, as a president, as we know, it's got to do with sovereignty of our nation. And technically, they cannot belong to any other foreign groups.

But this guy is sitting as the bot of trustee in many, many global globalists. What a joke. And also now you've also, so I mean, this has happened everywhere. Globally, you know, Klaus Schwab has admitted that we have infiltrated governments and cabinets around the world. We have our people.

like Justin Trudeau, like Rishi Sunak, like Keir Starmer, the Davos man, you know, just send out a heron. I mean, every macron, Putin, I mean, all these people are W.E.F. young global leaders. It's kind of terrifying. It's very scary. But another thing that's happened in Singapore, which I think is incredulous is this Singapore fake news laws guide to puff my protection from online falsehoods and manipulation act.

What the hell is this all about? Who decides what's fake news? Who decides what's falsehood and manipulation? Because I have only seen the government and the government's media promote falsehood and fake news. This is terrifying, isn't it? OK. Yes. Well, OK.

I am proud to say that as of today, I have not received any notice from this Pofma office, even though the MOHH has accused me of spreading misinformation. When they accused me of spreading misinformation in October 2021, I said,

Give me a Pofma. I want to have a Pofma. Because once I have a Pofma, I would be challenged in court, right? We have to go to court and stuff. I say, give me a Pofma. Don't just accuse me. And they didn't give me any Pofma, OK? So I am very, and I have actually been to the Pofma office over the presidential election when I wrote something about disappearing ink. But I said this, it actually basically was a question.

And I went there and I told them, look, if you give me a Pofma, I will absolutely challenge you this because I am going to remain Pofma free. But there are many other people who have gotten Pofma notices and who feel that it's not... I mean, recently Bloomberg got Pofma. You go check it out regarding something. And of course, I'm of the position that

Things have to be factual. And it's important to spread factual things. But of course, people should still be allowed to have their opinion without destroying the credibility of another and so forth. I am definitely for that. But sometimes, of course, it may be a little bit difficult depending on the information that you have available for you to be able to say something factually.

But I take great pains in my writing and in my videos to try to avoid all these landmines. But the censorship, this ear of censorship is just madness. And the problem is that you and I are not perfect. And once or twice we make a mistake, they're all over us.

like ants on sticky honey, but like, um, you know, with the government and the media lie consistently and repeatedly and nothing happens. You know, I'll give an example. I did a podcast with Dr. Jane Ruby and basically

You know, I put it a sub stack now uploads it on YouTube. I gave up on YouTube, but because I stopped uploading it on YouTube ages ago, but recently, sub stack automatically uploads it on YouTube. And I got this, you know, YouTube removed your content. Hi, Ahmed Malik. It looks like Dr. Jane Rubio is on fire. Didn't follow community guidelines to keep our community safe. We removed it from YouTube. We think your content didn't follow our medical misinformation policy.

that causes a serious risk of egregious harm by spreading medical misinformation about currently administered vaccines that are approved and confirmed to be safe and effective by local health authorities in the World Health Organization. I mean, you see the bullshit there, the complete conversion of reality. They are pushing these toxic poisonous genetic interventions. And because we're highlighting harms, it gets withdrawn. And I'm accused of being spreading dangerous misinformation. I mean, what the

Fuck! That means 2025 and this shit is still real, still happening. Well, you know, recently I was removed from Facebook, okay? My Facebook account of 17 years was deleted because I believe some of my enemies targeted me, okay? They removed me citing cyber security rules and like, I breached cycles of security rules, but

I'm not a hacker. I don't even install any malware on my day and they said authenticity and whatever. But I show my face. I show my real photo. I show my name, everything. So the good news is, I've suit meta recently. And the Supreme Court gave me an injunction to get back my data. And if Facebook doesn't turn up, I will have my Facebook account restored.

So I've got the victory there. So they are saying, and there is a cyber security unit in Singapore who's hit, OK, but name of David Cole is under the WEF is about this. I'm going to I'm going to absolutely send you this information. And I have enemies in high places who wants to silence me. OK, Pofmar office is actually good as in they never gave me any.

Notice but Facebook, okay? They think that they can just delete my account and my husband's account.

with a switch of a button by just saying I'm breaking cyber security rule, but account authenticity and so forth. But I have sued them and I intend to win. I intend to win this because there is absolutely no cyber security thing that I'm breaking. Do you think things are changing in Singapore? Do you think more people are waking up now with what's happened to you? Do you think people are thinking there's something seriously wrong with our society and the way the governments run and what's happening with these vaccine rollouts?

Well, definitely, they may not, definitely more people are awake. You can see that they are not taking any more shots. Many people are not taking any more shots. I mean, the fourth shot was dwindling by a lot. So I mean, most people took it and they probably experienced some negative health effects, I can imagine. There's nothing like your personal experience to discourage you from taking any more. And if they observe their friends, family, members,

either dying or getting turbo cancer or myocarditis and any one of those 1291 side effects. That's not much convincing me that actually, even though they may not be very vocal about it.

But it's like the emperor's new clothes, right? We know the emperor is naked. It's just you're not allowed to say, but everybody knows. I just happened to be the child who tells the emperor who just speaks up. And I'm getting, I'm getting a road and I'm getting persecuted. Wow. I so funny just hearing you like we're so similar and so many. I've said the same thing. One of my supporters sent me a picture of me as a child.

Pointing at the emperor with no clothes and said look doc malik is calling out the emperor of no clothes and i said instead of the grown-up saying well done little kid that you called out this they start silencing me and attacking me and you know i hear i am you know i'm not certain anymore oh man it's a crazy while we're living in it's absolutely hilarious take out the popcorn sit back put your feet up and watch the shit show anyway listen before we wrap up you know i'm sure you'll update me later in the year with after your next and hearing in court.

Look, the final question I always give to my guests is, imagine you're on your deathbed, you're over a hundred, you've lived a long, very interesting life. Before you die and meet your maker, what words of wisdom and advice would you want to reinforce and impart on your loved ones who are around you? Be true to yourself, okay? And never compromise. And the truth is the truth. It's very simple. Just live a simple life. Living a simple life may not always be easy.

But it's the most fulfilling and it's the most powerful. And I stand ready to meet my maker anytime, any day. In fact, I just do what I can. I'm not afraid to die. I'm not afraid to go to jail. I'm not afraid to do anything. I don't wish to die. I don't wish to go to jail. But of course, all of us have to die one day. But it's more important to live. It's more important to live standing up than to be on our knees, bagging,

and I don't want to beg, I don't want to, I don't, I only have one master and that's a lot Jesus. God is my master. I won't be calling any globalist, my master. I won't be calling any other thing, my master. And I think it's, that's the message that I want to give to people is that

Freedom, when I was in jail, it was surprisingly the safest place to be because that's the worst that it can go. That's the worst that you can go. And even though I'm there, I am free in my spirit. I still speak. I still didn't hold back and I still spoke what I needed to say. Maybe the police officers were meant to hear it. I don't know, but I'm not going to change a word what I said. Because you don't you don't live in fear, do you? No, I mean, I and

And I'm very grateful that God has really protected me and saw me through. And I'm just an ordinary person. I don't have great wealth or whatever, but whatever resources that I need, it would always come when I needed to sue this thing, sue that thing. When I needed for my lawsuit, somehow the money came and the time that I needed.

And I really, really see what I'm doing as just being a messenger and just letting God work through me. And I think also I've written a song about David versus Goliath. And I think it's really, I mean David was a simple shepherd boy.

He was humble. He only had five stones and a sling. These are his weapons. All of us have our weapons. God has given all of us our gifts and our stones. Use them. Use them. And we cannot be heroes. And the world needs more heroes. We need more.

good news and light and faith, faith that can move mountains. Lovely. It's funny you should talk about the story of David and Goliath. I was speaking to someone about that, and I think even that might be an inversion of reality of what actually happened. I mean, that's another story, fascinating. Like I said, everything I now know, I question, I question everything we've been told. Everything is almost been a lie, you know.

But I love the fact you're a warrior spirit and you're so brave and courageous. I wish I could bottle it and spread it in an aerosol form across the world. You know how they've weaponized and spread through aerosols? Potentially the so-called pandemic. It'd be quite good if we could bottle your bravery and courage and weaponize that and aerosol it. But anyway, listen,

Iris, absolute pleasure chatting to you. Thank you so much. Keep in touch. I'll be rooting for you. Thank you for having me.

Yeah, I'll put all your contact details on the show notes. But do you want to remind people where they can find you and follow you? Sure. I'm on Telegram. My channel is called Healing the Divide. I'm on TikTok. Go look for Iris Code 11. And I'm on Twitter, Iris Code, H-T-D. And just follow me, send me a message anywhere. I would love to connect with more people. Wonderful. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.

Right, okay, Iris, this is several days after our last podcast, and I insisted that we do this extra recording because during one of our phone calls, after the recording of the podcast, you dropped an absolute bombshell on me, like absolute bombshell. So I think this is really important. So basically, when you were arrested for something you haven't done,

You weren't just taken to a cell and, you know, like you normally see on TV and you have your rights and you get your lawyer and you had a very different experience. Can you just explain to me and the audience what happened to you? What was it like being held by the police in Singapore?

OK, so I just want to say that my experience is probably not the normal experience because some reason they somehow gave me extra bad treatment. OK, but I will. So I was in Vermont, OK, which is basically before. I mean, that's technically not jail, but it's quite bad. So I was reminded at the Candyman police station and I was treated like a prisoner.

I have to change up my clothes where I fight t-shirts and shorts. There is no bed. I sleep on the floor with a blanket, just one blanket which can be from my pillow or to cover myself depending on what I want. Did you have a mattress? No. What was the floor made of? Cement. You were sleeping on cement.

Yes. Okay. This is the standard treatment for everybody in Vermont. Okay. So I'll just tell you what the standard treatment is. Then I'll tell you my extra special treatment. So, so the standard treatment is there's no bed. You get to sleep. Everybody sleep on the floor.

Okay, this is the size of my towel. The size of my towel is the size of a tissue paper. So I don't have a normal... I don't have normal towel. This is the Riemann towel, this size. Basically, yeah, a tissue paper, a serviette. You've got serviette as a towel, a hand cloth.

face cloth. No, I think this is the size. I mean, it's still a towel, but it's just this small. That's what I'm saying. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wipe yourself with this size. Okay. And basically I was, okay, so and the lights are on all the time. It's 24 hours, quite light. Even when you're sleeping, the lights are on. So basically, and then you don't get the sunshine. So I think I had the severe depletion of vitamin D.

So how do you get to sleep if you've got the lights on all the time? Well, you just close your eyes. Sometimes I put the blanket over my eyes or just do this so that I will not get the, you know, try to get as little light as possible, but I'm sleeping on the floor. And the toilet, I mean, there's a toilet inside the cubicle and there's no, basically there is one that is for your showering, you want to wash your face or whatever. So there's a tap from the top.

And then there's a tap at the bottom. That's for you to wash up. Okay. After you go toilet, there's no toilet paper or anything. Okay. So there's no toilet paper. No. So is this one of those Asian toilets where it's just a hole in the ground? Yes, squat. Yes. There's a hole in the ground, you squat. Okay. And then there's the tap that is for showering. And then at the bottom is where you can clean up after you go toilet.

Do you have any soap? You have a soap. It's a very, very small soap. Okay? You have a toothbrush. This is a very, very small toothbrush. And that's that. Okay? And so that's the standard treatment for everybody. If you are in Vermont, you get that treatment. Iris, remind me never to get arrested in a Singapore.

Yes, you don't want to be. Definitely. Anyway, most people are in Vermont for maybe less than 48 hours likely because in 48 hours, you will either need to be charged for a crime or they must release you.

How long were you in there for? I was there for 15 days. What? Sleeping on a hard concrete floor with lights on the whole time and that kind of facility. What was your food like? Well, the food was actually quite OK. It was packet food.

With rice, maybe vegetable and some meat, basically, that was the... Okay, I was in three different places during Riemann. The first one was Police Kentamine Road. Okay, that was the normal Riemann place. I was there the most.

most of the time. But on the third day, which is the Sunday, I was in Vermont on Friday, by Sunday, I asked to go see the doctor because I was getting panic attack. And so the default medical place they would send anybody in Vermont is actually the IMH, she's the mental hospital.

Okay. Yeah. So the police, the building behind is actually flat. It's not the actual Kentman police station. So if you were to search Kentman police station, you'll probably see the other picture that you have. This thing. Yes, the blue building. It's a really huge building. There's underground facilities, which is where we were kept. Okay. Right. Okay. Keep going.

Okay, so on Sunday I went to IMH, I asked, I started having panic attacks, so I said I want to go, I want to see the doctor. So they say that to take me to the IMH, which is the mental hospital at Woodbridge. Okay, so they have a forensic ward there where they keep people like they are in Vermont or in prison.

If you need to see the doctor, that's where they will send you. It's called the Institute of Mental Health, which is called IMH. Okay. I thought I would, I mean, okay, I got a little bit of respite there. So I went there on Sunday night. I was checked in and that night I got a bed. So I get to sleep on the bed on Sunday night.

And I told the nurse that I needed to see a doctor the next day because I'm not feeling well. And I just wanted to also basically record what's happening to me because I don't have my phone. I have no contact with the outside world for 15 days. I couldn't talk to my lawyer. I couldn't talk to my husband. I basically couldn't. I didn't know what was happening outside for half a month. Just imagine some people can't even live one day without their phones, right? But I remember mine.

I don't have my phone. I basically have nothing on the outside. I don't know what's happening at all. So the Monday, I wanted to see the doctor. And this is the very, very shocking part. At about 10 o'clock, I was asked to go see this doctor, which I went.

And that day when I woke up, I had a lot of stomach upset, so I was going in and out of the toilet. And by the time I saw the doctor halfway through the doctor, I said, you need to go to the toilet. So when did the toilet, I came back and then she put me in a Zoom meeting with this other doctor called Dr. Stephen Pong.

and the forensic psychiatry and also Stephen Pong started asking me, do I know why I'm there? I said, I'm stressed out by the investigations and that's why I'm there. So he started, and then he wouldn't hear every bad thing that I want to say about the police. He just wanted me to, I mean, it was as if he has an agenda. He wasn't really like a doctor. He wasn't asking me about my well-being.

But then it was basically for him. Okay, I said, then he said, I have access to you. You are mentally fit for trial. And whatever complaints I want to talk about, he said, I can talk to the judge who's waiting for me on the other side. I said, watch judge.

Just bear in mind, I thought I'm in a medical appointment. Suddenly, I have to see the judge. Have you ever treated a patient where halfway you said, hang on, you're going to have to see the judge? I mean, what kind of doctor is this? Okay? You disappeared for a while.

Yeah, sorry, of course my husband is coughing, so I'm asking him to go somewhere. Okay, so basically, that was a very, very shocking thing that happened to me, okay? And I said, what judge? I said, if this is a trowel, I need my lawyer. I'm not going into a trowel with no lawyer.

Okay, basically they say they wanted me to see the judge. I say, what judge? I'm in Remin hospital. I'm in a doctor's appointment. What trial? So then at that time, I said, look, I may be mentally, I said, and then he said, no, no, no, I have access to you. You are mentally fit for trial. I said, I may be mentally fit for trial, but I'm not physically fit for trial. I have a stomach again. I need to go. So I quickly ran out of the room. Okay. So that was

at the Institute of Mental Hospital and basically they wanted to then insist on taking me back to Cantamen again and I said I actually didn't want to go back okay because I said I'm not well and I mean the longest story I won't say in this broadcast but I'll tell you the longest story the details. So what happened was I was taken back to Cantamen police station on Monday evening

So I just stayed there for one night. So I went back to Candyman police station. And then on the Tuesday. And oh yeah, one more thing. When I first went to the police station, the first investigating officer, he was very nasty and rude to me. And he said, look, I'm going to charge you tomorrow. He was shouting at me. He said, charge me.

Aren't you going to investigate? First, investigate you later. Say, huh? Investigating me later, you're going to charge me first. And I was very, very, very concerned. And I wanted to make a police report on the investigation officer for three days. And at every turn, they tried to prevent me.

from making a police report, which I understand is to be illegal because even a prisoner gets to make a police report. But for me, they didn't allow me to make the police report for three days. And every officer that I asked said, I can't make a police report. I said, why? They said, because I'm in Vermont.

I said, so does that mean that you can commit a crime when someone is a remand? And they basically didn't say anything, okay? So on Sunday, it was within the 48 hours of me being arrested, I was finally taken to see a judge. And I had informed the judge that I think my investigations are not fair because the police officer already concluded that I'm guilty and I wanted to make, and then, you know,

And then the DPP, the deputy prosecutor then asked, okay, and after that, he said, he said, okay, he said, where was I? The DPP, the deputy prosecutor said, why didn't I make a police report? I said, I wanted to, but every single person said I cannot. Okay, Iris, what was the special treatment you got compared to the normal remand and how the treat, you said, you got extra, what was the extra stuff?

Yes, I'm going to tell you the extra stuff now. OK, so I wasn't allowed to make police report, which is the extra stuff. Accuse gets to make police report. In fact, it's like a standard practice. Sometimes every few hours, if you are in Vermont, they will ask you, do you want to make a police report? Do you want to make a police report? That's just to make sure that they're investigating properly. OK, so at least I know that the standard investigation protocol by the Singapore Police Force is at least proper.

but not the way that I was treated. It was not proper because I wasn't allowed to make pollution for three days, despite the fact that I wanted to make. So that's already one very huge irregularity. Now, the other thing that happened to me was that on a Tuesday, sorry, this was on Wednesday morning, okay, off my remind.

Early hours of that day I was very stressed and I started going to a panic attack again and I told them I wanted to see the doctor because I was afraid that I was getting like this panic attack is no good. So luckily the doctor that was on duty

said that, okay, fine. Ask me and send me an ambulance and got me to go to the Singapore General Hospital, which was just opposite. The police gentlemen wrote, they sent an ambulance for me, which was good. And they brought me to SGH. But, okay, so over at SGH, I was given examinations by the doctors. I was asked to go for blood tests and x-ray and so forth.

You know, when we were moving from one place to the next, for example, if I were to go from Kenterman to the IMH, the mental hospital, or if I was walking in

SGH, okay? My legs would be chained, okay? As I would be able to go toilet, it would be chained. Can you just imagine? I am surrounded by two police officers. Already, I'm in high security. It's not as if I'm going to run away, but they still need it to chain my feet. And as an accused, if you were to go toilet, they do not allow you to close the door. So I would be accompanied by a female police officer.

Okay, just imagine I'll go to the toilet and they'll be standing outside and basically ensuring that I'm not going to try to escape. I'm not going to try to do anything when I'm in the toilet. So this is how dehumanizing it is. I believe this is the standard treatment. The toilet part is the standard treatment. Now, I'm going to tell you the extra stuff. We have to be quick because I need to pick up my kids in five minutes. So rattle them off, rattle them off quickly.

Okay, sure. And then the next thing is that when I was so when I'm in the hospital, I would be chained to the bed at all times. Okay. So.

And they were treating me so bad that they didn't allow me to go to the normal toilet. After I was admitted to the hospital, when I wanted to go toilet, they said, I can't go. I said, what? And what they did was that they then rolled in the toilet and asked me to pee and poo next to my bed.

I was just bear in mind, I was not a fall, I was not potential for falls because that's how, you know, some patients, they can't go toilet normally, right? That's because maybe they're susceptible to falls and all that, but I wasn't. But they didn't allow me to go to the toilet. They wrote the toilet in, asked me to pee and pull next to my bed.

And when I wanted to wash my hands after I went to the toilet and the sink was just 100 meters. I just walk a few steps. I could reach the basin to basically wash my hands and they refused to let me go and they asked me to wash my hands in a plastic container and asked me to wash my hands there. Okay. And they didn't allow me to take a shower. Okay.

So this happened and I managed to luckily I managed to get out of this situation by telling them look because when I was admitted they asked me they got the directors of admission to come and tell me that I would have to pay for my hospital stay maybe a thousand over dollars for three days maybe they were trying to scare me or discourage me from staying in the hospital but I was very desperate because while you're in remand they're telling you you're gonna have to pay for it

Yes. Yes. And I'm thinking this is ridiculous because I'm in Vermont because of you guys. You guys are stressing me out, right? And I'm in state custody. So why am I have to pay? But anyway, I was so desperate. I just signed the phone. I said, fine, you're going to need me to pay. I'm going to pay. I'm going to stay here. And I used that card to basically get out of the toilet situation. So I told them, I said, look, fine. If you don't want me to go to the toilet, then you tell your bosses that I'm not paying for my hospital stay.

You want me to pay $1000, which you pay $1000, but you can't use the toilet, you can't use the sink, you can't use the shower. What kind of hospital is this? So, I'm either in state custody or I am in private hospital care, then if I'm paying $1000, I expect to go to the toilet. And when I use that cut, I could suddenly go to the toilet. I could suddenly use the sink. I can suddenly have a shower.

Okay, so I understand it's probably not normal and I think they were trying to break me. Yeah, it's just... I'm just giving you the tip of the iceberg, of the conditions that I suffered.

well in women and this is not all but this is probably what we can fit in this short time that we have and if people have more questions I'm happy to tell them more but I think it seems like kind of severe violation of human rights. Yeah it does it's surreal it's so dystopian it's unbelievable

I mean, I honestly was thinking of the phrase, they were trying to break you just as you said it. It sounds like the harsh conditions and lights on all the time, the hard floor to sleep on, the dehumanizing, no toilet paper, wash in a bucket, chain your hands when you go to the toilet. All of this is to break you, break your spirit.

Yes, and it's very, and when I'm showering, the police officer is also in the toilet because they are somehow afraid that I will escape from the toilet. You just imagine, I don't have anything, I don't have my phone, I don't have anything else, it's just the hospital codes and that, but they're still worried that I will, I mean, I don't think they're worried that I'm going to escape, but they just want to dehumanize me, they just want to humiliate me by watching me go toilet, by watching me shower, by basically just

just all that treatment that they gave. Wow. Okay. Okay, Iris. Well, listen, thank you so much. And God bless you. Just it's crazy, absolutely crazy. And good luck to you and your next round back in March of this year, you're going back twice. We're all rooting for you and praying that these guys see some sense or at least think, you know what, this isn't worth it. You know, we're going to we're going to get a bad reputation by pursuing this punishment. We will.

All right. Listen, God bless you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much.

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