#290 - Dear Danny: A Man With An Awesome Beard
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January 28, 2025
TLDR: In this podcast episode, host Ahmad interviews guest Danny, praising his beard and likening him to a brother. Subscribers are encouraged to support the show for access to bonus content.

In this riveting episode of the Doc Malik Podcast, titled "Dear Danny: A Man With An Awesome Beard", host Ahmed Malik dives deep into a conversation with Danny, a man with a colorful past and a remarkable journey toward self-discovery. This discussion encompasses themes of freedom, health, and happiness, intertwined with personal anecdotes and insightful perspectives.
Key Discussion Points
1. Personal Growth and Human Experience
Danny shares his transformation from a life fraught with challenges in the film industry to one where personal empowerment reigns supreme. Through his experiences, he emphasizes the importance of recognizing and confronting trauma:
- Colorful Past: Danny recounts his chaotic youth and subsequent transformation through the film industry.
- Importance of Sunlight: The duo emphasizes the uplifting and paramount importance of sunlight for mental health, contrasting their current sunny lives in Malaga with the gloomy English weather.
2. Family Dynamics and Parenting
The conversation shifts to family, parenting, and breaking cycles of dysfunction:
- Dysfunctional Family: Both speakers reflect on their childhood experiences, coming from dysfunctional families and the lessons learned.
- Raising Children: They discuss their approaches to parenting, emphasizing the need for freedom in child-rearing and promoting self-governance among their kids. This includes fostering questioning attitudes in their children and encouraging them to think critically.
3. Challenging Conventional Norms
The podcast illustrates a critical view of the societal norms surrounding education, healthcare, and parenting:
- Education: Both express disdain for conventional schooling. They advocate for freeing children from the rigidity of traditional education systems, promoting learning through experience and love instead.
- Health Choices: Danny talks about his experiences with home births and highlights the importance of empowering women during childbirth, contrasting clinical experiences with personalized approaches that favor comfort and control.
4. Facing Adversity and Trauma
Both hosts speak candidly about overcoming personal struggles:
- Recognizing Trauma: They reflect on their emotional journeys, the effects of their childhoods, and how past traumas shape their present actions.
- Healing through Experience: Danny discusses his transformative experience with plant medicine and how it facilitated profound emotional healing.
5. Spiritual Awareness and Collective Consciousness
The conversation culminates in thoughts about spirituality, consciousness, and the interconnectedness of all beings:
- Collective Healing: They discuss how individual healing influences collective consciousness and the urgency of addressing personal shadows to foster a healthier world.
- Unique Identities: Malik and Danny underscore that while everyone has individual traits, they are part of a shared experience that ultimately leads to community growth. They assert that self-love and acceptance are pivotal in transcending societal norms.
6. Critical Perspective on Society
The duo addresses the troubling dynamics of current societal structures:
- Echoing Concerns: Both express serious concerns over societal complacency, including themes of control, governance, and the loss of individuality.
- Manipulation by Authority: Discussing various movements and figures in the alternative media landscape, they offer critiques of how misinformation and agendas may manipulate the truth.
Key Takeaways
- Self-empowerment is essential in everyday life and parenting, encouraging individuals to question norms instead of unwittingly conforming.
- Healing from trauma is a journey that can be facilitated by both personal actions and by the collective experience of humanity.
- Spiritual growth and love are profoundly intertwined with the individual and collective human experience, grounding discussions on personal identity and societal roles.
- Fostering authentic relationships is crucial; individuals must prioritize character and authenticity over societal status or material gain.
This episode serves as an enlightening exploration of life’s complexities, urging listeners to embrace their unique journeys while fostering deeper connections with others.
This timely podcast speaks to the heart of what it means to navigate life authentically in today's world, urging us all to awaken to our true selves and reject the false securities that society often imposes. Tune in for an inspiring discussion that is as entertaining as it is thought-provoking.
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I think it's nice. I think it's like, oh look at this look. So there you go. I picked you up. I saw you in luscious locks walking to the ladies' toilet and I was like, hey, toilets. You can feel free to identify as a woman if you want to use the ladies' toilets if I chose to do. Do you know what? Why not? It's a bonus, isn't it? Absolutely. You might as well use the woke agenda against them. I'm not hating.
Right, yeah. I had a bit of a busy day yesterday, but I'm good. Isn't it horrible, gree, wet, miserable, England? Yeah, it's not Malaga. Is that where you live? Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Is it really nice, sir? Yeah, special. Sunshine all the time, no chemtrails? No, there's still a spray fever, but it's not as, uh, nowhere near as persistent and grey as this. I mean, we have pretty much every day this sun.
I don't know about you, but I do remember what it was like. When it hits your skin and your skin tingles with that heat, you just feel alive. And your mood, with this weather, my mood is just oppressive. It just sits on you. It's literally, for me, I feel like I charge in the sun. I charge up. So what do you do in Malaga? What do you do for your living? What do I do for living? That's a good question. Well, I was in the film industry for 20 years.
in various different departments from acting, like pastry manager, producer, writer. And then as things were starting to really take off. And artistic fellow? Yeah, yeah. Always. You should be in the walk category then. No, not really. You're quite exceptional there. Yeah. I'm one of the, I mean, I've got a very, very colourful past.
And the film industry actually saved me because I was skiing into a lot of trouble. And then one of my friends gave me an opportunity and it just sort of really opened lots of doors. Trouble as like with a lot? Yeah. Criminal? Yeah. I'll call back that's colorful. Yeah. I come from a very like a family full of
I would say dysfunction is the best, the best label to give it. Danny, don't we all? Yeah, of course. One thing I've realised is, like, absolutely. My family was dysfunctional as growing up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's dysfunctional around me. I used to think it was just a Pakistani phenomenon. I was like, what is it before? It's a Pakistani family, a Pakistani drama. Why can't we just be like the straight, normal, cute white kids? Yeah. And then I grew up. Yeah, and then you realised, it's just really, even it. That's what it is. It's all really, it's all around.
So, yeah, then I got into the film industry, and then I enjoyed it, actually, because I've always been someone, even like, I come from my working class, cancerless days, I said there was never much emphasis on school, there was never much emphasis on education, apart from my mum, my mum tried to push me, because I think she realised I was quite bright. When education actually mattered,
Yeah, I mean, even for me, I left Scottish for a week. You know, I always saw the sort through it. I could never understand why I was listening to these bricks.
I was like, why are they telling me what to do? I could never understand that. I just called you on this seven-year-old, yes. Actually, so she just turned eight, and she was like, Dad, I hate school. You know, the teachers, they're just so rude. Like, I don't know what a fact box is. They were talking about fact boxes. I can't hear it. I'm right at the back of the class. I say, excuse me, miss. What's a fact box? And she goes, oh, were you not paying attention? I'm like, duh, you stupid rude person. I can't hear it. And I'm trying to understand. Like, Dad, why is this a rude?
What did, like, she's there? Yeah. It's got points. Brilliant. Brilliant. Yeah. That's the fingernails. We're already breaking a lot of those cycles of external governance.
And our kids, they're going to be something different. You know, like my kids are a minor, but they're like, say, who's the boss? Who's the boss? I go, where the boss? And I said, do you fucking remember that? You're the boss. And even for me, you know, even I want them to challenge me. I'm not having it all the time, which they do. And sometimes it's a little bit like this, right? Do you know what? Listen to me. Danny, I want to say, you reap what you sow it like. Sometimes I think, why the fuck?
Don't you just listen to me, like why are they arguing back and questioning everything? And then I go, yeah, what? I did ask them to be like this. I said, yeah, I did ask them to be like this. Jamie, what are you doing in Malaga? How'd you make a living? Yeah, so when, when, when the plan, yeah, when the pandemic happened. Yeah, we, we had, I had a very, me and my wife at that time, we just let the twins and they were about, they were too.
And it was very much, we had a comfortable life. I was very well paid in the industry. I was on those management level and stuff. So I was always looked after. And I had two massive contracts, really, really just about, I think, put me in the big league. And then they fell through because of the pandemic. And so I lost all my contracts. And then I couldn't travel with them because I was commuting from Belgium to London. Right. And because my wife's Belgian.
And then all of a sudden everything just fell away. We lost our car, our house, everything. And we had a move of our friends. And then we ended up in a little community project in the south of Belgium, which was more like a dictatorship. And we sort of said, just going to do our own thing. Where do you want to go? Just going to do it now. Now we're uncomfortable. Now this is the time to make the leap. So we just, we've
We pulled our stuff in a van and got that sense of spine and then we lived in a tent in a belt tent for two and a half months with a heavily pregnant woman, twin girls and a dog. And we lived in a tent with a little gas cooker for quite a while. Like from rags to riches to rags again? Yeah.
And then this project, my little boy was born on December the 17th in 2021. You know, I just mean my miss is no hospital, there's no midwife. Shut up, you delivered baby. Yeah, I was the midwife. Fucking weird looking midwife.
Dude, seriously, the identifying is the mid one. Of course you can use the lady's toilet. Jeez, look, he's here. Oh my God, what the... Oh my God, have you ever seen anything like this before? No, no. Are you nervous? Uh, the audience did something weren't wrong? I wasn't nervous, yeah. Very nervous, but my wife is like, she's called her look. She's a warrior. Different level. She's got like, only Nate.
But wisdom strength, you know, like an old strength. What's going on down there? Fucking Voldemort walking down the road.
See that in a big gown. So basically my wife delivered to her kids in that house. But we had a midwife. What made you do that? Respect is what in France is. We wanted to try and do it with the twins as much as we could but we found out in Belgium it was actually illegal whatever that means to be able because they believe that there's complications.
So they wouldn't allow us to do it. And then we fell into the fear paradigm because we had a very, like, frantic, you know, like one of these gynecologists who was, like, mad. A full of fear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she, um, she, we, we, the fear was palpable when it overtook us. So when we just done what she told us to do, and my wife ended up having a cortisone injection, which they said would, um, it would mature the baby's lungs if they were born early, which is all a load of bollocks. It is.
And so then she went into the shock and there to give her antibiotics and the babies were delivered seven and a half weeks early, like this small, straight away, straight into fucking, like ICU, into little chambers, fucking... So you delivered at home?
No, that was, no, we delivered them in the hospital, we had to. That was the first, that was the twins birth. Okay, the first, okay. So the reason we wanted to, we wanted to just completely transmute all of that memory and do it, heal it with our little boy. So that was the way we just said that. So that's even more powerful that actually you had a really bad experience and there's scary and nerve-wracking and instead of going, oh well, we'll go to the hospital, there's so much fear amongst, like, home births.
You went, no, we're still going to dove into that. And it's the funny thing is like, aren't we here after millions of years? Like, do we want to host those? The naturalest thing in the world is such a crazy thing that much are getting involved. Oh, dude. And the key thing I think, and you know, I shouldn't talk too much about because I'm a guy, but I think it's all about being relaxed and the women feeling empowered in control. And they kind of take that away from the hospital, the clinical lighting, you know, shoving your hand up there, checking. It's violation, violation, stress.
I believe that's the most poignant moment where all of our power is handed over. Yeah, I think so. The birth, the birth thing is like a ship. And then you bring in to the whole, you know, like the maritime law and stuff into it as well. Oh my God, yeah, yeah. Like, if it's just all... Dude, listen, if I'm looking at you very closely, so I'm really admiring your beard. So I've just grown on this in the last few weeks. And it's figuring out what to do with the beard to go this way, that way, go to... I just had a guy on the train say the same thing.
Well, I love your look, man. You've got a really strong beard. That's it! I was like, well, you know, all the great ones did. Yeah! I think a beard just gives you strength. It's a bit weird. I feel so. Like, strength of character. Yeah, I feel so. Yeah, the sinker back. If you look back at it like... But I'm the opposite to you, look, see? Oh, yeah. I've got balance, I would say. So you've got invalid. You've got here and top, and here in the beard. Well, I identify as a midwife. I can't even imagine. Should we go inside? Yeah, let's go inside, isn't it? Right, wonderful.
Anyway, so I was saying like, you know, when I say when I hit the record button, like, it's so weird. Like I've had guests come a long way. We have a really nice chat like we did in the car in the house and then hit the record button and the complete change. And it's like, what happened? Like, what happened? And then afterwards, I'm like, guys, I can't, I can't publish that. Like you're too wooden. You're too reserved too much like an interview. Like where was you that I was just talking to? Yeah, but you're not going to do that.
I can't do that. I wish I could. I wish I could censor myself a little bit and play it down. It doesn't seem to happen. I like that about you. I know I follow you on Instagram, which is how I found you. I find the best people on Instagram, like Danny, Scott Reed, James Cooper, you, you know, um, wandering heel, Rebecca Archer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, my first love was Instagram because
As a surgeon, I used to publish all my stuff on Instagram. I would say people, this is what my life is like as a surgeon. This is me mopping the floor. This is me treating this condition. If you've got a button, you know, it's just a way of me connecting with the world and people building trust. And then, um, then it transmuted to from London, for an anchor surgeon to doc, Ahmed Malik.
Here we are. And here you are. Here I am. Right? It's what we're going to talk about. We're going to talk about it because it's so much. What do you want to talk about? Everything that's gone in this world. Well, that is a big topic. Where do you want to fucking start?
What about the UK? Why did you leave? Well, I'd left a long time ago, right? I left, what, six years ago now? Longer, seven years ago now. And for me, it was always about, it was me and my wife were now deciding that we want to have children together. This ain't the place to bring them up. Why not? I was brought up in working class at Councilor States in East London, you know, like that is for me.
It's not the best place. But you didn't have to do that. Are there other parts of England and Britain that you could have moved to? Yeah, but I suppose that my job wasn't well paid enough for me to live where I would like to have lived. And then I had to be in London because I was in the film industry. That's where most of the shoots were taking place. So then when we realised that we could live in Cortrick, which is where my wife's from, which is like super safe, super clean. Belgium? Yeah, in the Flanders part, yeah. West Flemish.
beautiful. And then I could commute from there, well, from little, which is a 20 minute drive straight into St. Pancras in an hour and a half. Wow. And then I'd get my hour back because I'm coming back from Europe. So it was like fucking Doctor Who? I was just like, I was arriving before everyone else. I was like, where are you? Like, people were going, Oh, it was mad on the M25s. I said, I'll just come from fucking France. I used to do it all the time. And it was like super, super easy. And just, it just to me, it was like the answer.
because I was brought up in a place which was very, very beautiful, very dynamic, very textured, like real, like real people. It was hard. It was hard. East and London got me. Yeah, hard, mate. Like we were taught, like everyone was just, I saw so much violence when I was a kid, you know, and so much drug abuse, so much alcohol abuse. And I thought, I can't let that cycle continue with my kids. I can't. I have to step away from the drama.
So, and I mean, my family is part of that drama, isn't it? It's not obvious. We're talking about drama, I was saying when I was growing up, all this Pakistani drama. But the reality is, when you're reminding me, when I grew up, drama went next to Ibrox and Goven, and it was hard, very much seriously. Like, I remember
You know, I'm priming to, I think it was, I want to competition to a poster, don't do drugs. And I remember the constable coming around saying, like, the average guy lives to the age of 40, either dies of heroin addiction or alcoholism. Just think about that 40. I'm 49 now. 40, they were dead.
And they're just broken homes, drug addiction. I mean, I found out my primary school's closed down, my secondary school, everything's closed down. But it was rough growing up. And like you said, it's a lot of drama. And I look at where I live now. This is rolled out country, by the way. Do you know that? The guy, I mean, I've heard not so great things about it. No, no, he's a not so. Yeah.
But he lived just up the road and he wrote about all the, you know, there's and all that stuff, all this neck of the woods. Exactly. I don't know about you, but I was reading those books as kids, but I was surrounded by the champion of the world. Yes.
I'm so glad you met. That's the one. So when I read that, I'd be reading in my bed about pheasants. I mean, what's a pheasant? What the roots? Because I'd look out and it's just a concrete jungle, like, you know, that derelict post-industrial wasteland. And I'm like, this. And now I look at my kids growing up and they're like, oh, Dad, look, there's a monk jack. Oh, look, Dad. And it's just normal for them.
And I'm like, wow, that dreamlike thing that I was reading about as a kid, that is my kid children's reality. They have no idea about heroin addiction and alcoholism. But don't you think a little bit of trauma actually builds resilient and toughness in you? I worry that my kids are too soft. Absolutely. Do you know what I mean? If you're honest with them.
You know, like my kids the other day, they were saying something. I can't remember what it was, they were moaning about something. And I just said, look, do you know, like people don't have what you've got in this world? And they said, like, what do you mean, Papa? And they're only young, right? They're only six. So I said, come here. And I got on YouTube and I just started showing them real stuff that's going on in the world, famine, starvation, war, not too much, you know, just enough for them to sort of go, they were going, well, Papa, is that real? And I said, yeah, these are real people with real lives. Like, this is, you've got your sort of mate. I said, you've got such a comfortable existence.
So to be able to give them that idea of the spectrum, I think it's enough. It's not like I'm sugar-coating it and wrapping them up in cotton wool are how well it's beautiful. I tell them there's bad people in this world. There's real bad people in this world.
I think they get it. You're just like me. This is hilarious. Leo. So basically, I do the same. They're complaining about God knows what, oh, daddy, oh, you never got me a present. I'm like, present, present. I used to get present twice a year of Christmas and my birthday. Like, what the heck? You know what? Just because we go to the supermarket and you see a bit of Lego, I'm not going to buy it for you because you want it.
That doesn't work like that, right? And even then, you get presents a lot more than I could ever imagine ever, right? So, and you know, look at these people, and I pull out my phone. And this is what I mean, social media and internet, there are advantages. Oh, of course. Pull it up and go, look at these kids. I mean, obviously, I don't show what's going on in Gaza, and I don't show that, you know, kids with brains falling out, but I show them the famine and, you know, the deprived homeless kids on the streets. And I go, look at that, they got no parents. And then they go, oh no.
Can we see more pictures like that enough now? Yeah. I mean, we're one of the little towns where we lived. There's a lot of homelessness there. And I always say to them, they said, Papa, why is he living on the street? I said, because that's the way the world is. I said, like the world's unfair to a lot of people. That's just a your situation. I said, you've done all right, you know, so you should be very grateful about that. And gratitude is one of the most powerful vibrations we can roll with, you know.
Yeah. So it's like if I can instill that in them, because a lot of the time, honestly, I felt victimized as a kid. You know, I felt like the injustice I felt about the world when I looked around as like, why can't I have that? Why can't I go on the school trips? Why can't I go on the school all of these?
So much so. Yeah, my missus used to say to us, my missus, nah, she says to me, like, yeah, we went to this, like, skiing holiday. Did you go skiing? I said, you mad. Oh, my God. Fucking wetlands, if I was lucky. Oh, my God. I can't believe you're giving that example. This is, oh, my goodness, my parallels are too much because in some respects, it was worse when I went from primary school to secondary school because in primary school, we were the well off kids. We were the kids with dad doing, you know, his market and his shoe shop were doing quite well, but we were, you know, we were poor, but we were like,
You know, the well off per compared to the upper working class. Yeah, then we went to the posh end of Glasgow and like they were all like going off in ski holidays. Oh, we met Chamonix of the winter. And I'm like, what is that? Like, what? How did Chamonix? What? And there's like, you know, it was just like, it was completely different. And now we were like at the bottom.
And everyone had fancy cars and we were like, we're crappy car and everyone had great clothes and we were wearing hand-me-dans, school uniform. Suddenly it was like, I preferred it when I was like, you know, in the other school. And I was the kid with the other one or two kids who were like January was at school alone.
Because everyone else went off on the ski holiday. I never once went on the ski holiday. And I, I hate to say this, but it kind of created a kind of chip on your shoulder. You're like, why don't I have that? Why, why can't I have that? And the one time then you do go on holiday, it's not to Malaga or Disney, like everyone else was going to, it was like, yeah, where'd you go on? Yeah, I went to Pakistan where there's a,
the toilets are whole in the ground and there's mosquitoes and there's electricity cutouts and what world did you do sightseeing? No, I went to see these uncles and ants who I didn't even know. Like, that was my holiday. And it though. Yeah, it though. Yeah, so yeah, very similar.
But it's what builds you in it. That's one of the reasons I am like, I am. And so I always look back at it. And I mean, in a sense of like, I look back at it with like having had years of therapy, traditional therapy, plant medicine therapy, whatever. Yeah. And so it's not like I have tried to change that or transmute it or heal that. I'm also very, very proud of that. You know, I know that he's like giving me that swagger and that fucking resilience and that don't fuck on me attitude, you know.
Yeah. Everyone needs a bit of that. Yeah, 100%. It's so funny. You said the plant medicine. So I took plant medicine in December. Oh, yeah. And so the funny thing is, I always go, yeah. No, um, since I've been. Oh, yeah. So I've never, ever drunk or taken drugs, ever smoked ever. That's wrong with you. Like just super clean, right? Yeah. And then,
You know, my mate, Josh Parker, shout to him, and he's semi-professional football player, and I have a former patient of my doc, doc. It's his fault that this is called Doc Malek Podcast, because surgeons are normally misters. Oh, yeah. And he was like, he just called me Doc the whole time. I love that. I call you Doc as well. Yeah, yeah. I love that. I love it, too. And he used to just call me Doc as well. And about six months ago, he went, Doc, I want you to come on my retreat, you know, get some appointments. I have no fucking idea what you're talking about. I thought it was, I was about to go.
I didn't check. I was like, and I chickened out. Then three months ago, he went, come on dog dog. And I love him so much. I went, all right. So I went on a hero massive trip, seven hours in December, this beautiful retreat. And it's so funny. Did I went in there with this really arrogant attitude? I was like, all these people are fucked up. They've all got trauma.
Oh, I'm in a good place in my life. Oh my God, I cry like a baby. So bang healed my inner child. Beautiful. It was just beautiful. And it's funny, in that state, I was like, this voice was like, you're going to be the healer. So I'm running my own retreat in April and then in October with Josh. Yeah. So it's going to be UK and April and Morocco and in October. So yeah, because it's part of the healing. So, you know, why did you take ayahuasca and what was your experience?
Well, I, like I said, gone through, I had a, I got into trouble when I was 1920, it wasn't the first time, quite frequent. And now I, I had this, um, it was like a court order that I had to go and do community service, or I had to go and do X amount of some kind of anger management counseling. And I was like, well, I'm just going to go and see the council and I'm blacker, you know, for a few weeks. And I actually actually uncovered stuff.
I started to get a few mechanisms, a few tools available to me that made me understand how I, and I didn't have to be acting out of this, what I would call ancestral programming. Yeah. And then that led on to lots of other different types of therapy. And then I was just like, even as a young man, I was still getting into trouble. I was still hanging around with a bunch of fucking hoodlums. But I had like this different, I read, I've read so much all the time I was reading. And it gave me this sort of like first for self-inquiry.
And then I had a bit of a low point of depression, I think, when I was I was taking a lot of drugs at a time in the film industry. And then I had a seven year relationship with this lady and it was coming to an end. And it felt very, very dark for me that time, you know? So I fucked off to Thailand and I spent a year in Thailand in the heart of my own just writing and crying. And then I came back and I was sort of like very much like, right, I need to I need to get into the into the depths of this, the root of this.
And then after a lot of research, I looked into it and I wasca seemed to be the way forward. I don't like the idea of purging. I might have. I do not want to ship my pants. I mean, that just terrifies me. Do you know what they do? One of the things is first and foremost, like you've probably experienced this yourself with a psilocybin is that it's not a drug, right? It's medicine. Yeah, 100%. And the way, especially if you go into like Peru, into the Amazon is very much
the indigenous people, they honor that. Yeah, they really honor that. So if you say like drugs, they say, no, no, no, no, drug or medicine, or medicine, and they remind you all the time. So there's a lot of respect and I've done it in a place that was incredibly considered and detailed. But I had like mad, mad breakthrough after the second ceremony. And I was, I was terrified. I'd done a lot of psilocybin, like mushrooms and stuff recreationally as a youngster. So I was aware about that, you know, opening other doors and dimensions and parts of the brain and that. Yeah.
And, but I was very terrified because of the stuff I'd read about iOS and I was like, this is going to be life-changing. And I think, I think there's a comfortable part of us we want to hang on to because it's the known, isn't it? Yes. And all of a sudden there's this uncharted part of yourself and you're sort of like, what am I going to lose you? Who's going to go? Who's dying today? You know, there's a part of you. You've got to leave behind and that's fucking terrifying.
So the first ceremony, I was like shaking up to the altar and I was like, where the shaman is and I was shaking and I was like, please don't give me a big cup, you know, and you have to put an intention into the iOS go out. Yeah. So I was like, okay, please go gentle with me, you know, I'm scared and I'm anxious and please just be very gentle with me.
And that first ceremony, it was like, it was like a very gentle introduction to ayahuasca. But afterwards, I was a bit pissed off. I was like, oh, I should have had more courage and just gone fucking swipe the next ceremony. Now I've swagged into the fucking, now I'm like game face on, I'm gonna go for it. So the same thing again, I'm sitting there and I've got this shot of ayahuasca and I'm looking into this shot and my intention is, mother ayahuasca, do your worst.
Do your worst. Get it all out. And did she? I thought I died. I was pretty convinced that I died. It's like a little death. And then rebirth. It is a little death.
And I had the usual, you know, when you have the sort of geometric stuff that's happening, you know that you're starting to get into that channel and that frequency. And then it just got tougher and tougher and harder and more aggressive. I couldn't hang on. I was like, they put you on these little seats here. And I was like, it's a spaceship. You're in like a little spaceship. And I was just free-falling through whatever it was.
And then all of a sudden I started to get, I was screaming. I don't know if I was actually screaming, but I was screaming inside myself. I was sobbing and fucking purging. Everything was coming out. And then I had this, I felt like although I was still there in the Maloka, I was in a like a haunted house at a derelict hotel somewhere.
And I don't know what I was doing, but I was running through doors and I was opening doors and like cupboards and fucking I'm searching for something and searching and it just, it was like one of those mad old cartoons where everything just started getting more and more smaller and I was now creeping on all fours like trying to find this. Suffocating. Yeah.
And then all of a sudden, I've opened this light. It was like a trapdoor. And I've opened it. And there's me as a kid, like feral, like feral child, me terrified. And so now I'm like, as an adult, I'm trying to comfort my inner child, like in this story that's created this film. Yes. That's your inner integration and child integration. Yeah.
And then all of a sudden, I grabbed all of him and then I just, I realised while I was in this story, I was holding myself. Oh yeah. Oh, I can't go. I was dead. And I was absolutely sobbing. And I cried like I'd never cried before. And I believe, you know, life's always going to be a journey of discovery. And it's always new layers of understanding and healing. But this was heavy. This was like a paramount, a poignant part of getting that root out of myself. And I just started to feel free again.
Wow, something, it was healed then, you know, something. This is too much. The parallels are too much. You're freaking me out. You really are freaking me out. There's no coincidence.
So basically, so I didn't take ayahuasca, but I went up before Josh came and we had to meet like, not the shamans, but the spaceholders. And they're like, they're all three of them. They're like, Josh is giving you a very big dose. And I'm like, Josh knows. And then I'm like, oh, and they're like, are you happy with that? I was like, I don't know what normal is. It's quite, it's quite a lot. And then if you, you know, if you had any drug experience, I was like, no, I've had nothing. You've had nothing. And I'm like, oh shit.
Then suddenly, because I went there with no expectations, I was like, I'm coming as a doctor, as a scientist, I'm going to observe, or I'm going to document what my experience was like. Yeah, it was so arrogant. And I'm listening to other people, right? And I'm like, where are you here? I'm like, oh, I've got drug addiction, I have this and that. And I'm like, oh, my, you're fucked. And what's your problem? I'm like, well, I mean, I've just broken up abusive relationships. And blah, blah, blah, you're fucked. And then this one's alcohol and blah, blah, blah, you're fucked. I'm like, man, all these people are fucked up. Maybe they're going to be OK afterwards.
I'm all right. I'm good. My life is good. Maybe I'll end up being fucked up. Like maybe the reverse will happen to me. I'm like, so, and then I'm thinking, well, I'm going to get fucked up by this. I'm going to change. It's going to change my personality. I'm going to be coming at drug addict. So I'm like, I'm having all the fuck. What have I done? And now they're telling me I'm getting this huge dose. And then this calm went through me and I went, do you know what Josh knows me? If he thinks this is what I need.
Let's just do it. And I went, that's good. It's good. Do it. And like you, I went for the geometric shapes, trans dimension, time, dilated, contracted, felt like 10 years in this seven hour state.
went for ego death. And that was painful and love saved me. And I came and resurfaced with love. Then I was pulled back down into the depths of despair and ego and questioning and self doubting. Then I freed myself and these cycles went on and on. And it got to a point where I was like, I'm just really tired, six or seven, you know, sweating. I was like, Oh, I'm dehydrated. I need to drink. And I sat up in this statement, can I have some water and everybody's really weird, like,
They don't look like humans. They're a blurred and geometric Lego shapes and everything. And someone gave me a bottle of water and shout out to Ron or Josh, can't remember which one, but gave me a bottle. I was like, oh, I can't feel this water, like bottle, strange. I put it to my mouth. It's nothing there. And then I went, oh, I could feel the crackling of the plastic bottle. I mean, I feel it now. I mean, that's strange. And as I gave the water bottle back, I thought the cool water go down. So everything was delayed. Yeah. And then, um,
And then just, I was like, dude, can we stop now? Can we just turn the lights and stop, stop, stop everything? I'm ready. And he just looked at me and went, you're not ready yet. Just relax and just submit. And I just fell back. And I was just so tired. And then...
Um, I was saying how love is everything in my head. Love. And I'd love to remember your children. I was holding onto things that reminded me of my kids, little soft toys that brought with me. And then it said, why do you love your kids? This voice was saying to me, why do you love your kids so much? I was like, cause I love them. They're my everything. I was like a little bit more than that. I think I was like, no. And it's like, does this remind you?
Maybe you're loving your kids like this because of this and then suddenly I was in this dark space and a light like a cone of light was shining down and there's a little boy curled up in a fetal position crying and it was so lonely and so sad.
It broke my heart. And I was like, this is so painful. I'm crying. This person's got no love. And I realized it was my five-year-old self. Looked his bums again. And then I had to get, I had to curl up next to him. And I was like, I curl up next to my little boy, who's six, like this every night. I actually sleep most nights with my boys in a futon at the end of her bed, believe it or not, costly.
And um, and he, cause he used to always send me to like daddy, daddy, hold my hand so I would crawl into bed, hold his hand. And now I just, I just sleep with him. My wife is like, are you ever going to see me? I'm like, it's just my little baby boy. And I was like holding myself the way I hold my baby boy.
And I was crying because I could sense his loneliness and sadness. My parents used to fight like cats and dogs as kids. Like really horrible domestic abuse. And I would be watching from above the stairs and I was crying myself. I felt lonely. I felt unloved. I thought maybe it's my fault.
Yeah. And it was just painful, you know, and it brought back. So I held him and I held, I said, it's okay, baby boy. And I was like, this is why I'm so hard on myself. This is why I think I'm never good enough. This is why I'm so tough, you know, on myself. And I was like, it's okay. I'm it let it go. You are loved, you are loved. And I started telling my younger self, you are loved. And I cried so much. And the crying of pain and sorrow and loneliness.
Change to crying of happiness to it's okay. I'm holding that because the child melded into me and for the first time in my fucking 49 years Danny I felt whole Now if that fucking plant medicine isn't the most beautiful healing thing ever I don't know what is because people tell me oh fucking drugs and you're promoting drugs No, no, no, no. We've all got trauma. I went in there thinking I'm all right I'm the man and you know what I came at it was fucking beautiful Danny that that was my experience
And it's parallel parallel, right? I have freaking mind boggling is that. And so this is why I want to do it. This is why I want to hold the space. And you know, you said you went to prove I've heard things can go well and things can't go well. I've heard it depends on who's around you, the people, the intention.
And then I want to give it the respect that's due. I want to combine it with some health stuff as well. And bring in people who are experts in trauma. So I had a podcast was I'm called Meredith Miller who does all this trauma work.
She's just beautiful. She was talking about one of the problems, Amadeus, you know, there's a lot of injustice. I think you mentioned it, a lot of injustice in this world. And, you know, the negativity that demonic force creates the injustice, that's one, but it perpetuates it because you're like, I need the justice, I need the, and being in that angry state, in that combat state, they keep winning. It's replication. And I'm not saying like we shouldn't defeat them and fight them. I'm not saying that, like we should.
But you almost have to make peace with the trauma and injustice. Otherwise, you just end up being a victim and they still have that control over you. It's a second round of injustice. Does that make sense? Yeah, I mean, for me, that's it in a nutshell. And that's kind of like if you want to say like the awakened or the enlightened or the true for like part of us, it comes to the surface. It's like it gets its strength from us dealing with our shit first.
by owning it, understanding it, forgiving it, allowing it a space to heal, to accept it. And then we're 10 times more powerful, what we put out, you know, our output is coming from that space of love. You have to learn to love yourself first, didn't you? Yeah. And like, then all of that. When did you start loving yourself? I'm still working on it. How did you, if you don't mind me asking? Free. Great. Yeah. Still young man. Yeah. Very young man.
Yeah, I love myself a little bit more today though. Good. I think that is such a, it's like, I believe so many times in our lives, we meet the people that we need to, the reflection of, you know, and we hit that reflection and it really awakens and ignites a part of us that is perhaps need some attention and some focus. And I feel like what you just said then, which like you, I was talking to myself through you, you know. This is part of the integration work. So one of the,
One of the things that Josh was telling me and Neymar is that after the plant medicine, don't think that it's done its work. The work carries on for weeks and months, and you work on it. You know what I mean? That's where you get the benefit of it. And the people who just take it and think, right, I'm fixed now.
That's not how it works. It's the beginning of the process. It's showed you the way and you have to follow it through. Maybe that's the point of us chatting and talking together. It's taken a while to get to this point and we've had a few dates where we've had to rearrange and everything happens for a reason. Perfectly aligned, as always. Divine timing. I have such faith in it. I really don't.
So in terms of loving yourself, you know, I don't think I really truly loved myself till I got to about 37, 38. I'll be honest with you. I was in a relationship for many years. I was in, you know, a few ways. And I didn't love myself. And the thing is, if you don't love yourself, how can you receive love and how can you give love?
And the problem that I see is there's a lot of people who have unresolved trauma who are not who don't love themselves. They end up having children end up being in relationships. They don't really love their kids properly. They don't love their partners. Then you just perpetuate that cycle of trauma. And I think in life, you can either carry on that trauma and it gets worse and worse, or you go, no, you know what, it stops with me. And, you know, I'm going to stop it now. And I agree with you in the sense that we give our power to the evil people.
and we are also traumatized, we're also damaged. The evil people are actually in some respects a mirror of us. Unless we collectively heal and reclaim our sovereignty and our power and our responsibility, we're never going to defeat them because they've just gone into that space where they go, oh, great, we're going to abuse these people.
But that's because we are in that state where they can abuse us. If we were really powerful sovereign beings, they would not be able to do that to us.
And the first step is about how we feel about ourselves, isn't it? It's our self-worth. Because if you instill that in people, and if you look at the entire fucking system, every facet of our modern society is designed to take away that self-worth, to a disempower us, to make us feel insignificant, to always, always look for external governance, it's never about looking in. So as soon as people start to feel good about themselves and have self-worth, they're not listening to that shit.
You know, they can't be governed because it's sort of that governance comes from within. So it's all of a sudden that is the answer. The answer is to build strong people. Yeah. It's very difficult. I think there's a wonderful quote by someone. I can't remember. It says it's much easier to build strong children. It is to fix broken adults. Yes.
You know, so of course now we can do it with our kids and it's a little bit easier, but we're also one of the things that our project is doing is trying to build like it's trying to help people, but grownups like to get through their trauma and to arrive at that station of sort of like complete self-determination, like all the time in every, every single part of your life is like you are relying on you. But there is no one out there who's got the answers for you. It's always you. Everything comes back to you.
It's not from an ego point of view because when you get into the real you, that's the collective consciousness. That's the part of all of us. What do you think collective consciousness is? Because I've heard about this recently and I've experienced it and I'll share what I mean by that in a second, but what do you make of collective consciousness?
I feel that it's the truest part of us, which is the part, which is love, really. It's love. If we get into the core of us, if I would say like my light side of me, not my vessel, not my mind, but the light, the infinite part of me, the constant
to continue them, it's always there, the consistantness, the thing that's always there all the time, to me that is my light, and that is your light, and that's everyone's light, and to me that is the collective consciousness. And I think that is the collective awareness or collective observance, like consciousness sometimes I think it's misguided because people always put it back to the mind, but it's got nothing to do with the mind. So it's the universal mind almost.
Yeah, I just quickly look. And on Joe Rogan, there was a podcast guest, Campbell something recently, which was fascinating. I mean, I don't know if I agree. Thomas Campbell, he's a physicist and a consciousness researcher. Yeah. And what he was saying was, um, imagine God is like this consciousness, super frame, mainframe computer.
And what he did was to try and experience life and whatever he created subcomputers within his mainframe and subconscious-nesses, which are us.
And, you know, we are, you know, autonomous and we are acting, but we're part of that bigger mainframe computer. Like you can, you can, even in your desktop computer, you can create a sub computer in that, like you can do that. And it's working its own, it's running its own program, but it's part of the original computer. You can do that. And it's like, that's what consciousness is. And it's funny. So in my state, trance state,
with the plant medicine. I found myself suspended looking at the cosmos, the universe, this existence, and it's black. And I saw this frequency of consciousness, and it was humming and vibrating that sound. And I felt pure love.
I didn't know about this. It's not the right, it's a deeper vibration. I didn't know about this thing, right? On sound or whatever. And I'm... I don't know anything about it. But here I was witnessing it and listening to it and seeing it, you could see sound. And I created that voice, you know, sound in my head. And a little yellow flickering line came next to it. And I was like, wow, I feel love. I'm so close to that.
original conscious harmony. And then I got it just right. And I was scared for a bit because I thought I was going to disappear into this greater consciousness. But as I got enveloped in this greater consciousness, I still retained my individuality. But I became part of a greater whole. And I felt I came home to God. And it was so beautiful. So I was washed with love and joy and that one. And it was like,
This is what our natural state is. There is no pain, there is no anger, there is no...
jealousy, there are no negative feelings in this sublime state. And I just think, you know, is that what God is? Is that God? God is this consciousness. And we, you know, when Jesus talked about God is within us and I am the father, maybe what he was saying is that we are all part of God. God is within us. We are part of the consciousness and we've all just been subdivided and we all think we're this meat suit.
When actually this meat suit is literally just a meat suit and it's a vessel and this is the consciousness, the spiritual return of being. It's quite magical. But if you think of nothing in our lives, especially in our child, just take education, traditional education, nothing is ever spoken about that.
There's no, there's no, that's clear taxpayer. There's no emphasis whatsoever is it? Like we're in this slot and we talked about it in the car earlier is that from our birth certificate, our birth registration, we are then put into this save system and we stay in that cast until we can do something about it. And then for me, it's like the more we can build upon that feeling of self love and self worth and you start to embody that,
And then we can, this, this feeling like we're talking about, like we still, we still have to go through the human wide human expected spectrum of emotion. That's just the way it is. But there's, there's that feeling that we know, you know, that we know we're part of something. And when you talk to someone, a lot of the time you talk to people who are very academic and have got a very sort of strong cognitive approach to life,
they find that very difficult because it is about faith and at the end of the day. Faith is like the strongest thing in the universe to just have this faith that you know. It's something that you know. And you can't prove it. And then all of a sudden you start something, yeah, because I took our West and I got, oh, did you? Oh, right. That's so good. And then it's all completely diluted. And then you're like a mad man. They're just like giving you the old, oh, all right. The old crazy eyes. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, it's funny. Exactly. I had this chat with a friend who's an orthopedic surgeon. He's not being the podcast. And he said, what's up? And what's the latest? And I took some psilocybin plant medicine. And he was like, oh, yeah, you're going to become a druggie next. And it was just like, you know, it's just exactly what you're just saying. And I was like, oh, for goodness sake, you know, you're
It's such a beautiful thing that you've just belittled. But I don't get angry. You have to show empathy and love. You just think, you are ignorant. You have actually no idea what I'm talking about or why experience. I actually feel sorry at that point because I was like, maybe this person will never ever experience. They're in this physical, hard reality. They're chasing money. They are material things, big car, big house. Studies.
Yeah, and spiritually, I hate to say this, but they're kind of dead. You know? I see a lot of these people, spiritually, they're dead. Especially since the the pandemic as well and and that whole.
vaccine if you want to call it that technology. I mean, there is a very, there's a lot of research that looks into that being something that he's actually fucking around with our genetic code. Yeah. If our, if our, if our God, whatever that is divine source, whatever has created that genetic code and these bastards are playing around with it. And I think a lot of people who, who have taken it are probably a little bit more, less likely to be able to grasp that, that godliness within them.
So that's to me, that's so sad. And I don't think that's like, that's not me saying that they're all fucked. Because I do believe that love can counteract anything, any kind of poison, any kind of stuff that we feel is negative. I think love can transmute that. I truly believe it. It just makes it a little bit more of an uphill battle.
100%. Do I love the fact you keep saying love is an answer? I agree. 100%. It really is. It doesn't mean that we all wish you Washington. We're not fighters and rebel fighters and, you know, not fighting against the slave masters. You know, it's not like we're just like complying. But I think you're right. From a spiritual level, love is an answer. You know, but look, looking at the, the jabs,
So I had some called Michael Neil's on Dr. Michael Neil's, and he talks about the indoctrinated brain. You're talking about lots of different things, but one of the things was spike protein goes in the brain. It's neuro inflammatory, so it inflames the brain, the LNP, the lipo-nanoparticles, they cross the blood brain barrier. These people have got a lot of neurological problems, cognitive problems, Alzheimer's, schizophrenia,
Add on to that you've got the SSR eyes messing around with the dopamine and whatever in your brain and the nano tech as well and the nano tech the emotional blunting then you get then add on to that you know what else have they got the SSR eyes they've got statins and the statins that get rid of the cholesterol which is the the sheath around the neurons. So all these people are literally.
Literally, their minds are being destroyed. So, you know, this brain fog, that transhumanist, isn't it? Yeah, the anger that you see, the psychological problems, people are really suffering now because of all the crap that they're being thrown at them. It's kind of sad. It is sad. And you think about, again, it's by design. And if you killed that human, that wonderful, wonderful, powerful thing that we've got, the human brain, and they kill it, then they replace it with AI.
And that's what's going to happen, isn't it? That's the plan, is to put a neuro link chip in people's heads, and then they are full blown robots. Yeah. Cyborgs. I mean, we're living in Terminator fucking two. Yeah. And I'm John O'Connor. I'm just a shorter version. And a bolder version. But like, yeah, yeah.
The indoctrination is bad and this simulation. And it comes back to what you said about God. So God, I think the creator, the consciousness, whatever you want to call it, everything that's natural is from that. Okay. So like nature, food, whatever, that's all natural. Everything that's manmade is the opposite of God, basically. And they want to adulterate all of that, which is natural and good and make it, you know, their stamp on it.
And it's hard because like some things we want like this microphones artificial natural man, man made, the video cameras that internet, I mean, so there's some good stuff there. But there's a lot that I'm worried about, and especially the jabs, the drugs.
They just think humans are flawed, that we're just defective and that we need to be optimized. And that's strictly not true. That is just ridiculous. I know I was being to a guy called Robin Kelly about this. Have you ever heard of something called the Fibonacci numbers? Yeah, yeah. So if you look at that and you keep looking at the numbers and you plot graphs and curves, you get the spiral curve, then you get this thing called the golden ratio. And he was like, look up nature and guess what?
It's in everything. My tattoo, the flower life. There you go. It's an absolute, it's this God's particle, isn't it? It's there by design. So you know how you've got that stamped on your forearm? Yeah. I think that Fibonacci number, the golden ratio, everything is basically, you know, like in the back of things you see made in China or whatever? Yeah. That's like God saying made by God.
It's like, you know, whether it's a sunflower or whether it's you or cow, like it's all, it's in us, our cells, our blood, everything has got these ratios. Like, it's almost like they're in plain sight, but it's not, if that makes sense, because once you start looking, like,
That's not an accident. That's not an accident. Like that's like God playing a joke saying, yeah, kind of telling you, like none of this is like, you didn't come out of this primordial soup by accident. Like, oh, it just happened. No, I create... And that's a lot of bollocks in it as well. The whole evolution theory. I think it is. It's like monkeys that are like still evolving.
Where's like the half humans? Right? Where the fuck are they? Why are we not seeing anything? Why are we not seeing anything in an evolution state right now? Nothing. We've all the smartphones around. Surely someone's caught something. Why? Yeah. These people are not taking this edge where I know swinging to work. Absolutely. Yeah, I don't believe in evolution either. No.
I mean, everything we've been told a lie, literally, everything about our diet, they tell us that we shouldn't like red meat's bad for us, it's absolutely brilliant. And of course, listen, you have to source the best meat you can and we want animals to be looked after, but I believe there's real honour in raising and rearing animals and then having the courage to be able to take their life, to be able to sustain your own.
You know, I think that's perfectly within the Alliance, not sitting there going like, I'm fucking starving, but Antelope, I can't eat him because it's not fair on him. He's just going to eat him out of this primal need, you know. Do you want to hear something funny? So I came across this article, it's really resonating to me that pray, pray, need predators, pray, want healthy predators, because the pray know that the best of them will survive
and they need the predators to mop up sick and the shit. And actually sometimes, you know, we started to look at Bill Gates of a new perspective now.
But you see what I mean? Like, like pray are like, we need healthy predators. Like we don't want the predators to die at because if we don't, there'll be too many of us. We eat all the resources. You'll have lame and sick ones around. It just, you know, you want that balance that. And that's what we've got. And that's, you know, and if I had one day, the dream is to have a homestead and I have goats and chickens, I like to do that, you know, slaughter it and, you know, and honor.
the meat, the animal, make sure it's had a great life. But the thing is like the idea that in nature horrible stuff isn't happening and animals aren't getting chewed and bitten, like that's happening every day. Like a cow that's been fed on a pasture and lived a long life for it and then is slaughtered and eat. That's a good life. The cow went to heaven.
You should see my cat as well, like he's like, he's an absolute psychopath, but he's just playing, he just literally gets everything, like beautiful birds, he pulls out the trees and he just tosses them around for ages. Yeah, you know, like it's just like no one, like nature is not innocent of that feeling of that need to, to whatever it's doing.
Yeah, you saw one of my cats. I've got two and we've got we've got bells around them now. Yeah, because dude, it was as well. It was too much. It was too. But even, yeah, even the with the belly brought in two birds in one day. And I was like, what do you must have found in nature? Yeah. And it's like, come on, come on. And they're so sweet. They sit in my lap, the purr. Yeah. And then they go out and rip, rip a mouse to shreds and then bring it home and say, look, daddy, I've got a mouse for you, my great. But that's a lovely balance right there, isn't it? To have that. Yeah.
And just going back to what you said earlier is one of the things like, I think, I think by, again, by design, and we have to look at a lot of things are by design is that if you think about the way that love has been, has been put out into the world, it's all sort of like lovey-dovey. And if you're sort of someone who promotes love, then you can see, you're seen as sort of like a peaceful hippie when actually love is that fierce drive in you. That's the passion, that's the stuff that you would go over the trenches for and defend your family and your fucking people, you know, without caring the world.
And that to me is bingo. That's real love. That's the that's the stuff we need to hold on to. So that's what I try to say to people, isn't I get twisted? You know, look, this, this type of love is the love that is going to protect us, the love that is survivalist. You know, it's not sitting there with banging drums and waving parallel santo around and pretending that you're, you know, you're connected to love. It's the stuff that drives us. You're 100% me. And I love that. Thank you.
This is what it's all about, having far in your belly and caring and having passion for life. But the problem is, I see so many people in the world today who are lacking that and they're in that trance state and it's like, I feel like shaking them and they're shaking them. It's like a fucking hammer over there and they needed it. You know what? It's my meaning, is it? Everyone's lost meaning. So we need to try to
to gift people back. You know, and it's people like us. It's spokespeople who have got the bollocks to be able to stand up and say the stuff that no one wants to say. To say, listen, what we're doing, it's nine to five shit, mate, that they've still got us believing in and getting pissed on a weekend and watching the football for our kicks and stuff. It's all a fucking lie. That's funny. It's a lie. 100%. But you know when you say, like, people like us, I don't particularly feel brave. I just feel like I'm just doing what's right. Oh, come on, Doc. Come on.
No, seriously, what you said to me a minute ago, you know, you just walked, how many doctors walk away from what they're from from that kind of, you know, that's a high, high end orthopedic surgeon, right? That's not up there in it. And in the hierarchical scale of a doctor, it's not like you as a midwife. You know, you're a proper full blown doctor. And I would imagine it would have been a very nice wage. Yes. And you just walk away from that because you don't, but because it doesn't make sense to you anymore. That's proper brave art shit. Don't ever forget that.
But I just don't, I don't feel that. Just feel like that's what I had to do. Yeah, but that's the brave art shit. It's just something in you that you can't agree with anymore. You know, it takes this takes a lot of a lot of courage to be able to do that. Coming back to trauma, do you know what? It's my childhood that made me be able to do that stuff. You know, I just had so much injustice when I was younger and saw so much wrong and suffered.
I got to a point where in my 20s, I was like scrappy. I was fighting all the time with everybody. I was just fucking fighting with everybody. Like, and the doctor's like, they're all like, oh, hello, hello, hello. And then I come along. And they were just like, they weren't really prepared. I remember when I went to a hospital in London, King's College Hospital. I was working there. And they're all like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I come along like, all right. Yeah, exactly. All right, mate. All right, me, man. Yeah.
You know, someone like you told me, I'd be like, I alright, we man, we man. And I was like, um, I got a nickname. My, my consultants would call me scrappy. I'd be like, why are you calling me scrappy? But they're like, did you ever watch Scooby Doo? I'm like, yeah, that low wee dog, that low. That's you, Ahmed. And I'd be like, really? They're like, yeah, like, yeah, because like, you know, you had to strap to get to operate and assist. And every, and there's a pecking order.
And I'm like, fuck that shit! I want to do it! And a lot of nepotism as well. A nepotism, 100%. Yeah, that's horrible thing that is, man. Are you playing golf today? Yeah, exactly.
In the film industry, I experienced that massively, like no one, no one I know in the film industry reached the level that I've reached that comes with my background. Really? That's like me! So you're not in the masons, you're not playing golf, you're not funny handshakes, you're dad's mate and blah blah blah, you've drafted and worked hard to get to the top. Yeah, and I never censored myself or changed myself, used to swear and people used to say to me, you do swear a lot, so I don't care. That's another thing we've got in common. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, I don't give a fuck.
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I get that. That's the paradoxical way that I think that is like you're walking in between the chaos and order. So tell me what it was like in the film industry and how you got to the top. What was it like? Was it vain? A lot of nepotism, a lot of... Yeah, we went to the same boarding school, whatever, what was it like? Yeah, I mean, I started off doing security, yeah. So that security is the sort of like the working class lads. They're the only ones I could ever talk to, even though I climbed the ladder. They were the guys like, everyone else will be sitting down for lunch. What did you do at the weekend in Giles?
And I'd be sitting there thinking, fuck you, now, so I'd get my lunch and I'd get outside and stand in the rain with the security boys and just have a proper normal chat. Have a laugh, a bit of banter, you know? And for me, it was sort of like, I was always, they used to say I was unconventional. That was the nice way of criticizing me. Saying you're so unconventional. And I said, so, yeah, and, like, what, it wouldn't want me to be the fucking same, are we? Yes! I was going back, like, because I've been on, I had my awakening.
And 9 11 is my birthday, right? And so, I'll show you a little funny story actually. My old man bought, I think it was a daily mail and it was wrapped in a plastic sleeve on December the 12th. And it said on the front page, September the 11th, the day the world changed and he gave it to me when it ain't that the fucking truth. I love that. And then probably, I think I was in Thailand two or three years later.
And I watched the thing called Loose Change, which was the breakdown of 9-11 being an inside job. I had never seen that. And that was to me, that was like, oh, because it goes not just through, it doesn't not just talking about 9-11, it's talking about how the monetary system and the financial system and all that that was. That reminds me of the movie Zeitgeist. Exactly. And that's the next one I watched. Right. So then I was like, OK, right. So now this is it. They're all fucking playing us. Yeah.
And so I took that energy into every, every facet of my life, you know, that didn't, I couldn't switch that off. It wasn't like, oh, I'm in the filming, you know, I better keep that down or I'm an actor and I'm on set with all these people and I've got to keep that down. I'd be standing at a tea table again. Oh, fucking Nazis.
And then people come what do you mean they're all not to listen mate like jimmy several you know best friends with Prince Charles and fucking Margaret Thatcher and you're telling me special branch didn't know that he had keys to hospital he's a necrophiliac and fucking child traffic come on how do you have to fucking retarded not to put that together. I'm trying to find you something 100% dude 100% so basically and.
When I first went into med school, I was working as a phlebotomist, which is like right at the bottom. It's not even the nurse. Photomist. Phlebotomist. Yeah, I went around looking at people's bottoms, a bottomist. A grande John.
Yeah, you got a flat bottom, you got a flabby bottom. No, flip bottom is like taking blood from people. Oh, yeah. So I was being, I was doing that as a weekend job, right, to make money. In vampire. Yeah. And then, and it's really interesting. So, you know, I've worked in the markets, I worked in the shoe shop, I worked in a residential home, I worked in a.
bowling alley. I've worked so many fricking jobs, right? So I'm now working as a full bottom and taking blood from people. And the way I thought doctors then used to take blood. So it's a good training thing for me. And so I got out, go on the weekend. And I couldn't believe the hierarchy. And what I mean by that is the nurses would totally blank me. I'd be like, good morning. They wouldn't even bother saying hello to me. I'm like, Oh, okay. Well, that's what it's like. Like, I thought the doctors were arrogant. Wow. Even the nurses are. And I was just chatting with the healthcare assistants and the cleaners.
And they'll be like, Oh, hello, son. What are you doing? And blah, blah, blah. And I'm chatting. And then, and then it's funny that when the nurses would find out I'm a medical student, they'd be like, Oh, hello. Hello. And I was like, Wow. There's all this stupid BS, you know, hierarchy, like, who gives a fuck if I'm a medical student? Nothing's changed. I'm still amamalic. And I'm still the full bottom is like,
Now, now you say good morning to me. Now I'm worthy of being spoken to. What the fuck? Like, and like as a nurse then, why, how can you complain about doctors being arrogant? I think when you, you on your level are kind of like being arrogant to like the healthcare assistants or do you see what I mean? Like everyone's got their little weed pecking order and so I've never been that kind of guy. I don't, and I would get what you got called like, oh, you're very different, aren't you? Like everybody would always be like, well, I've never met a doctor like you before. I've never met.
Uh, a surgeon like you'd be, oh, I know about a consultant like you before you're very, you're very normal. And I was like, yeah, what you fucking want, what you want me to be like, give me a script. That's what I just decided to people. You write it down and I'll say it. Yeah. Well, I think what they wanted was, hello, yes, I'm Jeffrey. So take a seat and what is your problem? And then just totally fucking ignore you should be in an absolute dick. Yeah, right. Okay. Bye bye. Like, that's not me.
But the funny thing for me was why, is because I used to work with a lot of celebrities, you know, like household names, yeah. And it was always, because I was so real around them, there was no ears and graces, you know, I used to work with Gordon Ramsay for a lot, right? And he's an absolute no bit, as you can imagine.
But everyone was like, Gordon's here. Anyone who'll go back against the wall. Hello, Gordon. Morning, Gordon. Would you like a coffee? And I used to go, you like Gordon? And I'd have a proper conversation. And he used to take the piss out. I mean, I used to take the piss out of him back. And he warmed to me. And then the people in the, like, all of the higher people who ran the companies and stuff, they always come and talk to me because they were saying, real, they're saying, authentic. I'm not trying to be like, lick your ass. I don't give a fuck, you know? I'm not. Yeah. To me, that's something, it's what we're missing in this world, isn't it?
is what we're missing. I wanted to show you something but I can't but basically I don't have the reception now. But basically it's a video of me mopping the floor in theaters and it's to show you that's what I was like. So I might be the consultant. But Wall Street was a consultant. Yeah, I'll show it to you afterwards. As a consultant,
I would be mopping the floor. So when all Jeff Wies and Nigel's and everybody else was fucking in the coffee room drinking and talking about golf and God knows what the fuck else. I would never go to the coffee room. I would stay in theater. I would mop the floor. I would move the operating table. I'd position the lights. I'd get the action machine. I'd sometimes go and do the portrait job because it'd be like, Oh, there's no portrait. So I'd go and get the patient from the ward and bring them in. And I was just doing the job with everyone else. And that way I was a very efficient. I get a lot of work done. I got the respect from the theater staff.
And in what, in the end, the managers came up to me, oh, we're, you know, we're going to be doing an investigation because you're leaving work early every single time. And I was like, what do you mean? Well, we can see that you're leaving your list 20 minutes early every day. And I'm like, so how many operations am I doing in the year? Oh, 762. I was like, what about the other foot and anchor surgeon, 350?
I was like, so I'm doing double what the other guy's doing. Why are you not having a chat with him? Well, he finishes on time.
I mean, no, hold on. I don't understand that. So I'm getting doubled amount done and I'm leaving 20 minutes early. Yeah, but your theatre utilization isn't 100% and his is. He can't help it if he's slow. I went, no, maybe he's fucking sitting in the coffee room and chit chatting all day and he's dragging his feet and, you know, he just leaves on time. I fucking worked hard and done double the cases. If I leave 15, 20 minutes early,
Big deal. I know, it's just, there's a fucking don't get it. It's the thing and it's computer says no. Fucking computer says no. I mean, it's madness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's actually no, there's no ability for critical analysis. And that if you think that's why something like the pandemic was so easily played out, because everyone's lost the bereft of that fucking ability, just think for themselves, to actually go hold on a minute here. What a load of bullets. You've got to wear a mask for a respiratory fucking illness. Are you having a laugh? That was the first thing. I was like, you're fucking joking. You've got to be joking.
Yeah, exactly. But you know, like, back to what you're saying about, like, you talked to Gordon Ramsay, it's just like a normal guy. So when I first posted that video of me with mopping, like, I was, I was saying, I actually said, like, no one is above me and no one is below me.
No job is beneath me and no job is above me. Like I just come to everyone very like leveled leveled and the problem is, um, I found this quite a lot in Pakistani culture and now I'm going to get a lot of hate from Pakistanis. Can I leave? Oh man, I'm going to get so much hate. But as honestly, it's kind of true. And I think maybe there's a bit of it in this culture where you can tell me like when you meet another person, like especially in Pakistani culture, it's kind of like this sizing you up. Like, all right.
Like, what kind of job do you do? Like, what car are you driving? And so if you're like someone big, that they think, you know, a lot of money, a lot of prestige, a lot of worth, they will suck up to you, right? Because they think, right, I can get something off this guy. Or if they think they're, you're beneath them, they'll be like, well, I don't need anything like this person like shit. What they never do is like come to you, man to man, eye to eye, equal.
Do you see what I mean? Yeah, I don't really used to fucking piss me off. Yeah, me too. In the film industry, one of the things I used to do all the time is just go, where do you live? Because they're trying to, they're trying to, they want your... Size you up. Do you know anyone in your postcode? Well, they say, well, what do you, what do you, like, if someone, you meet someone at a party or something, what do you do for a living? Nice to say, I don't get caught. That's why you say something. They go like that. They're trying to put, well, what does, what the fuck does that mean? No? They just say, oh, I'm in charge there. All right.
I love it. Yeah, when I was in Australia doing fellowship for six months, I didn't have any friends out there. I was building no mates because at that age of like 35, right, everyone's got friends and family and like you pitch up fucking
going for a divorce, you don't know anyone. You're a bit lonely, right? And one of the work guys goes, like, you should go speed dating, like, don't date. Just meet other people. That's a fucking great idea. There'll be a lot of bunch of guys there that are wanting to meet someone. There'll be some girls that, you know, I'm not trying to do, they're not, but maybe they're two people. So I'm doing the speed dating thing, right? And first thing the girls will ask is like, what'd you do? And I thought, if I say I'm an orthopedic surgeon,
You're going to get someone who just wants to be with you because you're a doctor. So I kid you're not right. I was thinking like all the taxi drivers and Sydney are Asian, Indian, Pakistani, right? It's like I'm a taxi driver.
I swear to God yeah, I would literally have to go just look at their watch coz I have no fucking minutes little fuck shit I've got five fucking minutes left to talk to the taxi driver that don't win and I would literally have them go like look at the sky and like this and like that and I'd be like well you're fucking waste of space and then honestly like about 20% would be like oh that's great oh wow never met a taxi driver like so what's your job like I was like oh man was a black cab driver
I was like, oh fuck, what am I going to talk about? Tax season? I was like, no, let's not talk about that. Yeah, let's talk about something else. But we would just start talking. And I met a whole bunch of guys and girls who I got on well with who were just, they didn't give a fuck whether I was a tax driver or not. So yeah, that's.
The thing is, we're saying that all of these, I don't like to label them, but negative experiences with mankind, with the human species, but there is so many beautiful people on the planet. There's so many people like us who see that they want to look people in the eye and feel the fabric of their being as opposed to like, who gives a fuck what car you drive? I couldn't get a less what car you drive. I don't care. None of that matters to me at all. It's about, I always say character is currency.
Yeah, that's the thing for me. I try to always remind myself that people's character is the currency, the real value. Right, I need to give a shout out to Ian McDermott. He's my friend. He did a podcast for me, two peas in a pod, a wake surgeon, believe it or not. Volkl is on Twitter and X and says things. Been in trouble a few times. He's a really good guy. And then he's got me into shooting. So I'm into practical shooting. I'm in a firearms club. I mean, it is.
so much fun, so much shotguns and semi-automatic rivals. He knew you could do that shit here, right? So I'm into that. On the drive, one of the best things about going to the chutes is he picks me up on the way. So we just have guide time. And I think there's a lot to be said about that. Just an hour in the car, where you're me, just talking shit. And I was saying, like, how am I going to get a new car? And he went, oh, right. There would not be a sports car. I went, what was wrong with a sports car?
narcissistic wankers drive sports cars.
I was like, well, you got to know it's a 63 red galaxy Ford. You know, it's like that's the ultimate opposite of what a sports car would be. Right. And it's because they're got family, they know car, it runs, the current ones just falling a bit. You know, it's second hand, it's cheap. That's all I care about. Yeah, exactly. I think, yeah, I don't want to be driving a big fancy sports car. And I'm saying this, like, if say the show takes off, I'm the next Joe Rogan. I'm making millions.
You will see me dead in a sports car. It's a selfish car. I'm not that kind of guy. Again, I think that comes back to our self-worth, isn't it? Because if you've got that real richness inside yourself, you don't require any of that external richness. I always say to people that if I make a hell of a lot of money, you would never know. All it would mean is I'm just going to carry on doing what I'm doing and helping people.
all I want to do. I want to help the world get through this fucking grave transition. And then like the money, to me, I just feel it's on the way. I really do feel like we're going to be supported by the universe, like all of us, anyone who's out there doing stuff that needs to be done. I think so too. Yeah, I can feel it. I feel like very positive. Me too. Me too. Like really like very positive, like sighted, very excited. I'm like, Oh my God, it's coming. It's coming. It's coming.
Strange things are happening. Like, so I'm not rich, but... Oh, you are. And monetary-wise. But just things happen. So I've got this guy who loves my podcast, who's got a son of company, and he's giving me an offer I can't refuse. So I'm gonna have a son of here now.
You know, so next time I come down, we can do it in the sauna. It's going to be for a little bit wrong. Sauna and a cold plunge barrel thing. Oh, lovely. It's going to be sweet. Lovely. My roof is getting repaired. The cost is half of what I originally thought it was going to be. The guys come back and said, no, no, it's going to be cheaper than what I originally told you. And the money has magically appeared. Some people have donated to me. And I just want to say thanks to them. There's a guy called Dale in particular. Just reached out. I want to help you out.
Surgeon to surgeon you've got the balls that I don't I fucking love you. I want to help you out. What the hell what the hell like the universe is amazing You know, um, you know, you're talking about equipment like these these stands Richard
Mariam, shout out to him. That dog, I want to help you out. This five pound sub stack a month is not worth it. Like you're worth more than that shit. What equipment do you need? I went, no, not much. Like my cameras, they could be, there's something wrong with them. He went, I'll pay what you want. I don't want to waste your money. Maybe there's something I don't know about the cameras and they could just be adjusted. Okay, leave it with me. He sent a kid down from Manchester, stayed the night in Wickham.
fixed my cameras, got me different. So it ended up being a fraction of the cost of replacing the cameras. And I said to him, just because you're giving me your money, I don't want to waste it. I'm treating it like my own money. I want to see if I can just fix it first rather than just replace it with new cameras. And he did it. And then he comes back and goes, that wasn't enough. Can I do anything more? Is it nothing you need? I went, no, not really. Oh, actually, I do need some proper tripod type stands. He went, right, tell me how much, how many? And I told him, you're all right, it's been delivered. I'm like, what the?
That's a universe providing, isn't it? That's the magic right there. It's beautiful. Yeah, absolutely. And then that's the thing, abundance. Abundance finds us, isn't it? It's when we're acting out at truest part of ourselves with no agenda. I don't... I'll come on your selling supplements, aren't you? No. I'm joking. It's not yet. Give me 10 seconds before we go to a little break. When I was an actor, right? Not even a beard grooming oil or anything. Some hair products.
So someone's out there, who's got loads and loads of money, wants to send me some fucking beard grooming oil. When I was an actor, I wanted to be famous, right? When I was a youngster, I was really very, I went to like drama school and stuff and I was like really, really wanted to be like famous. So I wanted to, I loved acting as well. I loved the crime. Why did you want to be famous? Because of that part of me wanted to be seen and recognised it wasn't being recognised by me. So I wanted to have a people to see me and to recognise it. That child. Yeah, exactly. That child again. Wanted love and self-worth. Yeah, exactly.
And so when I first had a Twitter account and I came back years and years and years, I wanted loads of followers and I was like, how do I get loads of followers? And now I've never been on social media apart from that small window on Twitter. Never been on Facebook, never been on Instagram and all of a sudden the pandemic happened.
And I was like, you know what, someone needs to fucking say something about this because I was just watching zombies walk around everywhere with masks and I was like, this is not cool. And where I lived at the time in Belgium, yeah, it was the first fucking city in the whole of Europe to mandate face covers in public. So not even in the shops, walking down the ice street.
And I'm like, no, no fucking way. So I'm like the only dude in this entire town going into the shop. So I was like, I was sometimes to the shop in the shop and back home again. I was having five, six fucking arguments, like passionate arguments for people and then the police, you know, the police were on me as well.
Oh, wow. Did you get fined or get into trouble or anything? I had a doctor that I had a conversation with. It was a very, very one of us, you know, on our page. And I said to him, listen, so either you give me a fucking certificate to tell me that I ain't got to wear a mask because I can't carry on like this. I said, otherwise, I'm going to get nicked.
I said, and I'm going to end up fucking, I'll be in prison. So because I can't keep taking it sooner or later, I'm going to go. Yes. So he just went, yeah, no worries. And he gave me this thing. So I was just walking around going to act in their faces, fucking read that, read that, because I can't touch it, can I? No. And I don't.
I don't want to say our work around this is what i'm trying to say yeah but the thing is is that like the worker at night to me that's like a last resort in my situation was quite like different because when i come back to london yeah there was no mandate was there it was like you it was a choice when even when you in shops there's no one could tell you how to they would say sir could you put on you so now don't have to exempt and you didn't have to prove that.
Although you just remind me of something, Denny has got something called the Vaccine Control Group and you can join and member and they produce you these wonderful cards that say that you're part of a controlled group and you are, it's a legit thing and you're not allowed to be vaccinated and you're exempt from things and actually I need to get my
finger out my arse and actually sign up my whole family. She said, you know, get on with it, Ahmed. I have just not done it yet. But that is something that I think everyone should do, you know, because you never know next time they might come around again and say, you need the jab, a flu jab, a bird flu jab, a fucking god knows what else. Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's going away, you know.
Um, but I feel, I feel that if we, if we act out of that space of like we're like, nah, sorry, this don't work for me. Like the power of no, like a real node, it comes out, it's guttural. Yes. I don't think they can, no one even questions that, you know, I'm not available for that. Sorry.
But you remember at the time it felt like they're forcing us, forcing us. No one actually put a gun to her head. And now, if you look, they all come out and say, oh, but we didn't force you. We didn't force you. Like, we don't, you know, we just, we just said you need to do this psychological coercion, wouldn't it? It was another level. That is the gun. That is the smoking gun when it was the coercion of like, and then, and then the thing is, is that the society, everyone's pleasing themselves. Everyone doesn't want to be the black sheep, which I've always been a black sheep. I've never, never wanted to be with anyone, even as a kid.
do you know find that kills your soul when you like you don't say what you want to say when you don't say your truth like you're at work and you just staying quiet to get along and not cause any trouble. I think that eats you up and somewhere either internalize these and make you sick or it comes out and some other thing addictions or whatever like I think there's too many people who are.
living a lie is what I'm trying to say. They're living a lie at work about their boss, about their colleagues, about what they do. They're living a lie about they are happy. They're living a lie that they're in a great relationship. They're living a lie that their kids are happy. They're living a lie that they're just fucking living a lie. That it was safe and effective. Oh yeah, it was safe and effective. They're living a fucking lie. It's just ease them up.
But this is the thing is that, like, what you said about the people who are supporting you, and I feel that it's because our voice and the way that we conduct ourselves and what we're saying, the message we're putting out, which is all about self empowerment, it's all about self governance, that there's a lot of people I find, and, you know, I've got quite a large account the same as you, and I find there's a lot of well-known people, a lot of celebrities, a lot of people who've got massive, bigger accounts than I have, and they're silenced still.
Yes, for whatever reason, like maybe they're like financially that they can't rock the boat or whatever and they're used to their life and they're not able to be able to be that voice of the resistance that I am. And so, you know, I think that's why it's such an important role we play because we haven't got, there's no, I've got no conditions. We say to people, there's no one, no one's right telling me what to say. You must have gathered that by now. I'm just saying what comes out. It's not, there's no fucking script here.
That's what I love about you because you are completely authentic and honest and true. But that's a big thing because there's a lot of people in the space, I don't want to call it any other thing, who are very prominent.
But I don't know how authentic and real they are and they're pushing things by certain companies. You know, like, I just, you know, promoting the idea of a pandemic, promoting that fear porn. And you just think, nah, and the people that I like who come on my show are the ones who are just completely honest, unfiltered, authentic. You know, you can't sit in here for 90 minutes, two hours and not just be yourself. Like, if you're on a script, like you figured them out very quickly. It's transparent, isn't it?
And I think the thing is, as well, there's another flip side to that, because you've got a lot of the truth is out there, and a lot of them are selling the hope, which is another way to get, you know, like, they're all like the white hats and Donald Trump. Don't start. What does that lead to? Oh, now you're peddling Ivermectin. All right, so viruses are now real to you. I thought they'd want me back in the pandemic. There wasn't such things as viruses, and we all believed in terrain theory, but now you want to peddle Ivermectin. Now you want to jump on the hope of them, but bandwagon, it's like, fuck off, you know, you either for sale or you're not for sale.
I'm going to show you something. So, FYI... Sorry, I got a little bit worked up there, Doc. It's all right, it's all right. FYI, I don't believe there was a pandemic. There was a pandemic. Yeah. I don't really know what it was, whether it was poison or F5G. I don't know. Talk. I just don't know. It could be a combination of all of them. All of it is. Lots of factors, isn't it? There's something.
Am I 100% no virus? I'm probably 80% there. I'm terrain and germ, but more terrain. But I'm like, that to me, like, I just don't know. Even that's a bit of a setup. I just want to show you something else that I think you'll find fascinating. This is legit. Don't mention the name, by the way. So I get a message not so long ago. Look from Thursday the 9th of Jan. This is what I mean by how you can sell yourself at.
It's just the bottom message. Yeah, so it's from the third of Jan. So this person's got a huge account on X, quite massive. How much money is that they're offering me? 20 large. 20k for a single post.
Geez, I love that. I love you even more now. And what was that response? No, thank you. No, thank you. Fuck you. I mean, I really wanted to, I really wanted to say, fuck you. I loved the way you haven't even replied after that as well. She sent loads more messages and you just, I was like, I was like, fucking. I love that doc. No, fuck that. It's your real mate. Your real. Yeah. Fuck that. Sure. Definitely. Definitely. You want me to fucking push drugs and pills
Fuck that shit. I'm not interested. And you're the same as me, yeah, because we spoke about it. And talking me wrong, that would really help me out. Yes. It's not like, you've seen my house, right? It's fucking tiny two and a half bedroom corner. It's very cute. I've still got a massive mortgage. You know, I could do with that kind of money. But I'm like, fuck you. Yeah, mate, listen, I live in a yurp with me and my fucking Missy's freak mad kids, a fucking mad dog and a fucking psychopath murderer cat.
in a 5.5 diameter year. So I could really use, if I wanted to go that route and start censoring myself and start scripting things and selling things, then I'm sure I could bring in money because I've got... Do you think that money comes with no strings attached? Oh, I should fucking cut your bollocks off for that mate. Isn't it? What do you think happens?
One post, twenty key, second post, twenty key. What do you think's going to come after? Oh, I don't know. I mean, like that. I mean, can you not talk about that? I'm a key poster. What the fuck? Yeah. Then you're a bitch. Yeah, certainly. Are you back on your knees again? Yeah. Right. So for me, it's not. I had, again, I'm not going to mention any names, but I had some people who were incredibly wealthy. Yeah. No, seriously wealthy and very well known in the public eye. I'll show you when we're when we're having lunch later. Yeah.
And they asked me for sort of like treatments and stuff and like what I was doing. I said that we got a podcast coming. We've got fucking our own news bulletin. We've got a children's animation. Like all of this stuff is all about self empowerment and stuff. But I really need some support to start getting the. Yeah. I've got 10 people working in my team here on our project and they're all volunteers. All of them. They all do it. Like they all got day jobs and they all give whatever they can extra time because they believe in what we're doing. All right.
And this money that these people are kicking around will change everything for us. It would make sure that we can just focus completely and not have to worry about bills and food and fucking petrol and all the other things you've got to buy kids shoes and all the other stuff, right?
And the way that they conducted themselves, I called them out. Yeah. And I never, none of them, no one has ever spoken to these people like before. And I just said, listen, the way you're treating me is disrespectful. Yeah. I don't want your money. All right. I need to be treated with a, with mutual respect. I said, you don't even reply to me. I said, at the beginning, you're all like, Oh, we want to help you want to support you in this and sending this stuff. And as soon as like I got into what we really needed. Yeah. And there was no, there was no sort of mutual respect there.
And I'm like, I can't handle that. I don't give a fuck how much money it is. It doesn't bother me. That's character. Exactly. Character is currency. This is it. This is it. This is what, what's the point of, like you said, like walking away from your great job in the film industry, me walking away from orthopedics, having the character to do the right thing, and then just fucking sell her soul to the devil.
Fuck that shit. And what I think is funny is like, did these people actually think like that's going to work? I don't know. Like, really? Are you fucking stupid? Agent Smith, isn't I? That's what they are. They'll come in and find another route to get you to fucking Agent Smith's. Because I say it sometimes, I want to test them and say, listen, try me. Give me off of me a billion, not really off of me a billion. I am not for sale for all the money in the world.
I'm captured. Fuck yeah, man. You and me both probably. And I think that comes back to true wealth. So, you know, you've got that year with your fucking mad dog and, you know, murdering cat and your kids. And I got three kids and I fucked man. It's hard work, but we're wealthy in love.
Dude, and it's funny that that trip that I went on, I'm just not scared anymore. Like, I'm not scared of death at all. Because I died, I died in that trip and I know what's out there. And this existence is just a temporary blip in her. And I had this really powerful dream the other day. I saw this coach, you know, these big coaches and like the driver slightly to the bottom. And like, you're, I was at the front with my friend, Rachel Brown, shout out to her. She's a consultant, psychiatrist. Totally amazing. Awake.
And we'd been somewhere, we'd been to some conference in this dream of mine, and we're driving, and I'm like, wow, look at these fucking mountains. Where your love is amazing. I've never seen anything like this, like, totally out of the world kind of thing. Yeah, obviously, because it's in my dream. And then the coach ran off the road. I'm like, oh shit, what the fuck?
And he's like missing the boulders on this on the side of the road. I'm a fuck. And then there's this boulder the size of a house. And he suddenly stopped swerving and just starts to accelerate deadpan for the boulder. And I'm like, at our current fucking trajectory, we're going to be dead in 20 seconds. Fuck me. Everyone's screaming on the coach. And I went, I'm not scared. You know what? It's just death. It's fine. And I closed my eyes and I was in peace.
And I literally count down to like one, zero, and I open my eyes. And the culture is now 100 meters away and I just baked in time. And everyone's screaming and I went, oh wow.
We didn't die. And then this voice said to me, because you're not scared to die, you're going to carry on living. Yeah. I was like, whoa, and I woke up then as a middle of the night, my little boy is lying there on top of me. I'm like, well, that was a fucking weird dream. But I think there was something in it. Like, don't be scared of dying. It reminds me of the quote by Eckhart Tolley, you know, the power now. Yeah. He says, if you can die before you die, you realize there's no such thing as death.
Yes. That's it, and a nutshell, isn't it? That's it. Yeah. Because the part of us that we're holding onto is not real. It's not us. It's about trying to realise what is us. What are we really, this divine physical expression of fucking God? That's it. So what can we do with it? Exactly. That's the thing. Now we've arrived at that station. What can we do individually and collectively? Let's change the fucking world. Can you imagine after we die, we check out, right? And it's like,
So, you know, there's a scoreboard, like a computer game. And it's like, you know, you come out and it's like a million points like everyone's like, whoa, you fucking ace that game, you fucking legend. And other people come out, like, you know, this scum of the air of like zero and everybody's like, oh, you fucked up, dude, you need to go back. You need to fucking go back. You're like, like, oh shit. And it's like, yeah.
That's what that got you. I mean, who knows what the fuck the reality is, but I think it's kind of like that. Like, you know, this is a test. You know, the way that you're living now, you're living out of that most truthful part. You notice that you know what that is, you know, there's no denying that. You know, that's just, that's just it. That's the real stuff. And I know that scares people. I know that scares people because we've got so much programming in ourselves, so many patterns of how we're meant to behave.
And to break out is like terrifying for people, like really terrifying. If I told you the amount of people face to face I've spoken to and they've said about the chem trials and the vaccines and that.
And then you look at their Instagram pages and there's nothing on there about that. And you're so, well, you are socially imprisoned, you know, because you can't break out of that feeling of like, what do people think? I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks. Yeah, I'm really done. And that if we all arrive at that place, then we all start to express ourselves in the most individual, true way that we all can. And that is unique. We are like one.
But there's a there's a unique part of us in it, I believe my divine part is unique and as is yours, but together we make up the whole beautiful poetic profound puzzle. 100% as beautiful. I love that. And the thing is like you're making me realize 100% like when people don't talk about came trails of this, I did a podcast recently about the Pakistani grooming gangs.
You know, I realize it's not just Pakistani grooming gangs, there's white grooming gangs, there's brown grooming gangs, black, that Jewish grooming gangs, Catholic, it's everywhere. Pakistanis aren't any special, any worse, just like Jews aren't any worse, like people say, oh, the Jews are ruling, everyone's the same, humanity's the same, wherever you fucking look, right?
Most people are too scared to speak out. Most people are scared to call out their tribe. Most people, you know, whether it's doctors or vaccinating, they don't want to say anything, they want to keep the head down. Like, and the reality is, you know, and the number of doctors I meet, they go, oh, yeah, you know, the vaccines are a problem. And there's no, what are you saying about it? I can't afford to, you know, I've got mortgage and kids.
I'm like, yeah, golf membership. Yeah, I've got marketing kids, too, and, you know, whatever. And everyone is scared to speak up and actually do the right thing and speak the truth. Can you imagine if all of humanity did the right thing? Like, what a different world would be. But the reality is everybody stays quiet. No one ever speaks out. No one is brave enough to walk that solo path. We're too haired like, and when I want to conform,
And we need to break out that and that comes from self empowerment, you know, so if the world is populated with lots of dannies and doc malics. Can I do a great planet be like, it's not selfish. It's not horrible. That's true individualism. So right now, I think one of the big things we're facing is something called communitarianism. You ever heard of that? You know about it? Yeah, go over it. So basically it is very important. So.
Communism is basically just the same as capitalism, but just two sides of the same coin. It's operated by the same global... Fascism is all the same. Yeah, same global mafia cabal, right, where there's a central bank, the elite rule, everything, and everyone else is a servant and slave. And in the capitalist system, you think you're not, but you really are.
You know, there's no difference. It's just slight differences in how it's run. Communitarianism is like a melding of fascism, technocracy and communism. It's like saying to you that, you know what, your individual rights are really important, Danny, but actually there's a get out close.
If for the greater good, we need to shut you up, you need to shut up. If for the greater good, you need a jab, you need to take the fucking jab. Like your personal bodily autonomy is totally important. Yeah, 100% get that. Yeah, we accept you've got that right. But close, we see D1, whatever, for the greater good though, that has to be voided. It's always about the community. It's always about greater good, stripping away your individuality, your individual, inalienable rights.
Communitarianism doesn't believe in that. It doesn't believe that you've got individual, inalienable rights. The community trumps that. And what they use is technocracy to enact it. And things like stakeholder capitalism.
So these are all basically ways of enacting communism. So communitarianism is essentially fascism, communism, democracy, all wrapped up control grid mechanism, where a ruling small elite predator class enslaved the rest of humanity and drive it through it. That's what it is, the community.
Drive it because yeah, you're doing you're doing less or they get you are you not a member of the community You don't you don't you want to look after the welfare of the community? Like I do you want to be a good person? It's always Spanish and and said in a way that is good It's always caption away. That's like you're doing good. We're actually they're fucking you over. Yeah
And I think about someone like my mum, right? And my mum is like, she is such a beautiful woman. I would say only her and my wife, and there's something in this, the people that I've met who they always see the best in people. Always, you know, I'm not like that.
I'm quite easy to go, he's a cunt, and she's always seeing the best in everyone. That's my wife, and you know what, I used to get annoyed by that. And then what the fuck? I know, but it's actually quite beautiful. I know, I know. And my mum, she wants to act out of that place when anything is so she believes in this stuff because she's buying into it. She's doing it from such a real humanitarian space. So look, you can see how they say they've got people.
Because the real community is what we want. We want interdependence. You know, we want to have little, like, supported, like local villages where we're all looking after each other and we're all acting as a real community. We just don't want all of a sudden everyone to go, right? Well, there's 90% of us, so we're going to cut off our left foot. So you've got to cut your left foot off as well now. It's like, what the fuck are you talking about? Exactly. Exactly. Exactly.
This is why I'm not even a fan of democracy of like, oh, tyranny of the minority or tyranny of the majority. I don't want any fucking tyranny. I don't want to be left to fuck alone. Leave me the fuck alone. Like, first do no harm and take to take no shit. Like, that's it. Like, if everybody just live life like that, it would be nice. But yeah, there's all these isms.
feminism, communism, fascism, communitarianism, all of these are just a sigh up. The simplest way of living is, just don't mess with me.
We don't really need that many rules and laws and regulations. We do. And I think the only time you think that you don't is when actually you're lying to yourself. Yeah. So like my mom would say to me, you know, when she was still, you know, religious, oh, you need to, why have you walked away from this cult that was in? Why have you walked away from the religion? How are your children going to grow up and be good people? And I was like, they don't need religion.
Like, they will know, and I'll teach them, and they will know themselves. Like, it's in this all. And now, like, you know, they don't go to the mosque, they don't, yeah, I'm not Muslim, not an Amadee, I'm not none of that shit. But I believe in the maker, the consciousness, the God, the Creator, whatever. And I said to my mom, like, so what do you think of the kids then, right? They're really deviant and messed up, aren't they? She went, you've got the bestest kids. They're amazing. I'm like, well, isn't that funny? Isn't that funny? My mom says the same.
Really? Yeah, not from a religious perspective, but in the sense that, you know, like everyone was worried that we were saying like when our kids ain't getting vaccinated, kids ain't going to school, you know, our kids are going to be brought up by us. Are your kids homeschooled? Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. And so every, there's a, if you think of like how that's stepping away from, from how it's done or how it's been done.
It puts sort of like a real fear in in not just my mum and dad but my my my mrs. Her dad was a head teacher in a school so he really believed to put his whole life as a believed in that and it's like it was really, you know, like there was arguments and debates and passionate debates about why we're doing this and stuff and now.
Proof is in the pudding. You know, my girls, you know, they speak two languages fluently. They're so confident. They're so gentle. They're so compassionate. I'm going to pick your brain about that over lunch because two of my kids have been talking to him just yesterday about pulling them out of school next year. I'll do it.
Do it, mate. Yeah. Do it. All right. It's the thing. Well, talk to you about the practicalities of all that kind of stuff. Yeah. I mean, seriously, because I... The practicalities are you're going to go a little bit more gray, a little bit more fucking shaky, a little bit... Oh, my God, fucking hell. Am I going to kill them and end up with a straight jacket? They shall worth it. Yeah. They push you. You learn from them. The greatest teachers. They are the greatest teachers. And now, actually, they've become my greatest therapists as well, which is nice.
But it's like all the best things are things that are hard. Like I say to people like the plant medicine that I tried. Honestly, when I came home, it was so fucking funny. Like my wife was like, you want to go on a magic mushroom trip? Like, what the fuck? I'm like, yeah. She's like, okay, baby. She's like, great. Go for it. Like, I'm like, all right. Like, because we don't drink. We don't take anything. Right. And she's like, what the fuck? Okay. Then I come home.
And, um, and I laid down in bed next to him. She was like, how was it? And like, you know, you're just fucking travel through space and time. You've been away for fucking 10 years, right? Like you've died and been reborn a hundred times. And I said to her, baby,
I'm really gonna struggle to explain to you. It's like me standing at Yosemite, looking at half dome and at sunset and the beautiful vista. And you asking me what did it look like? And then I get a bit of soiled toilet paper with a fat crayon and try and replicate the picture of what that view said. It won't do it justice. Wow, what a wonderful metaphor it is. Well, that's what I felt. Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. Can you try?
So I tried to explain it, and I think my podcast in December is the best explanation what I went through. Because it's like an hour and a half, me speaking to Josh explained. But I cried with my wife, and she's looking at me like, what the fuck is wrong, Ma? He's crying like a baby, then he's laughing like this. I'm like, yeah. And she's like, OK, and it was like hard. What I was trying to tell her is it's fucking hard. I said, baby, it's in a nutshell, it's the hardest thing I've ever fucking done in my life, and also the most beautiful.
But you see that, like you had to go through the hardness to get the beauty out of it. Even still now, right? Even still the decisions and choices we make now, like we look at one and we sort of like, oh, that could be easy that route. Or the other route is the route that's really actually difficult and strenuous. It's nine times out of 10, that's the right route. Yeah. You know, because it's like we were just talking about be easy to peddle brands, you know, like the matter of times I get notifications from Instagram asking me, well, would I like to advertise? Would I like to monetize my account? I'm like,
off. Leave me alone. What does that mean? What does that mean? Yeah, 100%. But it makes it more difficult, doesn't it? But I feel within that, that real ability to walk the talk, it's going to be rewarded. And I don't mean rewarded by trophy or anything like that, just by abundance, to be looked after.
Yeah, I feel that. I already feel that. Like, you know, at the time, over a year ago, I felt like really hard done by, I felt like a bit of a victim, but I was still making choices that
was making me go further into the dark difficulty. That makes sense, into the uncomfortable. So like, for example, my mom was like, you still got one hospital you can work out of. Just, just develop that practice, find other hospitals. The GMC's dropped their investigation, you know, or they're not looking, you're, you've got clean license, just, just maybe cut back in the podcast. And you know what, rebuild your career. And I was like, do you know what? I'm actually just going to hand back my license. And she was like, what?
No one's taking it from you. Like you've got your license in registration. How powerful that is. And I was like, actually, you know what, I'm just going to give it away. And like honestly, people thought I was mental. They were like, yeah, you've been knocked down. Right. Just pick yourself up. Like you've got all the ability to pick yourself up. I was like, you know what? I actually just don't want anything even to do this. If they want me to shut up, if that's where it's all going to and they're just going to keep hounding me.
I can't. This is more important to me. I love what I'm doing. And do you know what? Take it. I don't actually know anyone else, 300,000 doctors who has voluntarily handed back a clean license. Like everyone who gets, goes to court, fights in the tribunal, try to hold on to get their suspension lifted, get their, you know, whatever reversed.
I was like, nah, take it. Powerful, that is mine. But you know what? Because I'm working class. Because I've worked in a bowling alley, in a phlebotomus, and a shoe shop, and a market, and a fishing chip shop, and a kebab shop named after me, and it's a kebab shop, you know, in puzzle park, fucking rough. But like, you know, it's just another job. And I am, yes, I'm a doctor, but I am a healer, and there's so much more to me than just being a surgeon. And it was fucking painful. It's restrictive, really, isn't it?
Yeah. And if don't get me wrong, sometimes I miss it. But as every day goes by, I go, yeah, no. It's always said to me, listen, Ahmed, you can have your 150,000 pound job back, just shut up and do your job and don't go on social media and don't do any more podcasts, you know, turn around and go, nah, don't want that. Don't want that. It would kill me. It would actually kill me, Danny. So we're living, haven't we? Yeah, we got a lot in common, haven't we? Here we have, yeah. It's insane.
Now I know why I like your Instagram. Just a more handsome version of me. Wait, come on. All right, listen, it's 2024. I said, let's do this for an hour and a half. So we're running out of time because I want to take you for lunch now. We're actually one hour, 30 minutes on the dot, but I've got my signature question. Listen, you could be dead next week. You could be on your death bed. It could be 20 years from now. It could be 100. Who knows? But you're on your death bed. You're surrounded by all your loved ones, your kids.
What would you say to them before you meet your maker? What last words of wisdom or advice? Or are you going to tell them? I'm alive. Do I expand on that still a little bit? There's no such thing as death. It's just another, it's a changing form. There's nothing about us that can die. And the more we do our best to live out of that space, we realise that we are infinite.
We are eternal and the more we believe that, the more we have faith in that, the more of that energy, that divine instruction, that divine light, it comes to us. It comes to the surface and we become a physical expression of that in our day to day lives. So, you know, I feel like everything I say all the time would be my last words, you know, because it's always there.
It's always there. Beautiful. Do you know what I said to my little boy about a month ago? I said to him, baby boy, I missed my dad. Anyway, I'm sorry, daddy. He's not here, then your dad. No, he died in 2018. And my boy was born the same year, six months later. So he's a special one. So he's your dad? Yeah.
Yeah. And I said to him, I just want you to know, baby boy, like when I die, I'm not actually dead. Like I'm in there inside you. I'm all around you. I will never have left. He went, I know, daddy, I love you so much. You're the best dad in the universe. What would you want? And people say to me, aren't you scared? Aren't you scared of dying? Aren't you scared that what they might do to you? Honestly, truthfully, I'm not.
It sounds a bit crazy because I understand what this existence is and I'm not scared. Yeah. I mean, for me personally, not scared. If I didn't have kids, then I think I would be even more like with the shackles off than I am now. But I think that having young kids, especially, they're a little bit of an Achilles heel, you know, because I don't do whatever you want to me. You could talk to me. I'm not going to say I'm not going to change what I'm saying. I really know that.
But kids, kids, you know, that's a different thing. So there's not so much fear about my own death, but I want to get them to a place where they can take care of themselves, you know, because that's my only thing, really, is that that's my, my proudest identity. Because we've got to let go of all these identities one day and go back into the, into the void. And my proudest, biggest one for me is Papa. Yes. I get called data. Yeah. It makes me so happy.
Yeah, that's what I love about you as well. I think the fact that you are such a loving, strong, protective dad. You know, when my kids were going to, you know, a peace school and after school club, because I was working, we put them in. Now I look at it and go, what the fuck was I doing doing that? And I'd go, like, if I finished my clinic earlier or operating in Australia, I'd go and pick up, like, my little girl. And
The staff would be like, oh, wow. Like, are you sure? Yeah, we've got them for another hour. But you want to do something? I was like, no, I want, I want them. I want to take them home when I spend time with them. They're like, oh, wow. We don't get that very often. Everyone else hates their fucking kids. Everyone else wants to keep their kids like you're longer like never, never, ever had this before. That made me really sad. I feel like a lot of people have kids like almost like it's just a tick box.
So I can accessory. And it's quite nice to come across like dads that are loving and protective and strong. It's pretty special. Your kids are lucky. Thank you. Beautiful. Thank you. All right, my friend. Let's wrap up. Yep. Let's go. Let's get something to eat. Are you hungry? I am. Yeah. Especially for a bit of steak. Let's do it, buddy. All right. Thanks, everyone. Bye bye.
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right guys this is bonus content so all you guys who have listened to the actual music cuz the actual music is fucking cool you know the actual music is cool I fucking listen to the actual music just to listen to it and then if you get past a disclaimer and you're just hanging on thinking
Oh, that was such a great podcast. I wish it went on forever. You're the fucking hardcore people. You're my, I love you guys. This is bonus content with dear Danny. Danny, let's fucking go. Listen, listen, what we're talking about, like, this is very, very, we're not going to mention any names because that's not the way we roll.
Yeah, we're not negative. We're not negative. But what we are trying to make sure that everyone understands, right? There is so many frauds out there. Frauds! In the truth movement. A proper, proper fraud, yeah? And what they are, is that I've just said to docays, what my belief is, is they want a PR revolution.
But what they want is to be on the surface and they want to promote a revolution but it's a very sort of, it's superficial and it's ticking all the boxes and it's branded and it's corporate and what they don't want real revolution because they're comfortable in their fucking ivory towers and they don't want really to lose all their riches. They don't want equality, what they want is everyone.
to be sucking up to them and to be beholden to their agenda which is to make them even more richer and to put them into the, into let's say the trend which is now everyone's starting to become truthful as everyone wants to know the truth and these people are so toxic. They're capitalising and exploiting it. Yeah they are, they're capitalising and exploiting our movement because
We can't be bold. Yeah, I think you might have just gathered that from the... If you made it this far, we just had that podcast together. We can't be bold. There's no money in the world that can get me to change the way I speak or the way I feel, or what I'm trying to do in this world. And it's the same for the doc. And these other people, they come out of this fucking space where they're completely so privileged. So privileged, these people. Me and him come from the same background, yeah? Like working class boys that have seen it all.
And we're not interested in riches. We're not interested in how much stuff you can send us and how we can be a part of your little swar ride and drink champagne and eat all your fucking vegans in nonsense. Yeah, and you know what exactly? And you know what? I think it's also a little bit even more sinister. And I'm not saying everyone. I'm not saying all of them are in this one, but some of them, they're like, let's throw it into the long grass. Let's get all this energy and, you know, people are getting fed up. Let's take that energy and actually take it down a dead end.
It disappeared. Do you see what I mean? Agent Smiths. Agent Smiths. They're fucking angry. So you think, or, or they give the impression that you don't want to support us, you'll fight the fight for you. You don't need to do anything. Sit back and let us do the fight when actually they do fucking nothing. Nothing. Fucking nothing. I've sat with these people over and over again and in personal. There's no one recording and it's a personal conversation and they're very open talking about
about the problem with paedophilia or a child trafficking and the chem trials and the vaccine and all of this stuff and then you look at any of their social media accounts or any of their output into the world none of that's mentioned none of it. So you haven't walked the talk, are you done? You know what I mean? You are saying what needs to be said or you don't. So you either centre yourself or you don't. So I wonder if what they're trying to do is to pull us all under there in their contracted little world where we're being paid by them
so they can somehow, they can divert us off into, to make us less... What? Who's that? Evan Norris. So it's not even, it's not even money sometimes. It's just sometimes social influence. They want to capture you by making you feel like you're part of a group or you're special that you're rubbing shoulder at these important people. I think there's lots of different ways that the capture is not always financial by the way. But I love it, it's kind of like...
indirect sometimes a bit and sometimes it is direct but I don't know about you but I was invited into all these freedom what's up groups right yeah and they all just chatted shit they all talked shit and I was like I don't care what minor B celebrity you are or whatever I don't give a fuck about like what the fuck are you actually doing and they're talking about getting together and having parties and getting pissed and having a birthday party like they weren't actually doing anything and I was like nah you know what
And initially, initially I was like, oh fuck shit, look, does that person, that person's feeling that? And I said, oh wow, there's quite a lot of fucking famous people, but in the end, I left them all, because they're all fucking waste of space. The amount of times as well, I've had them say that we're going to call you back, or...
we would like you to come along to this or please send us some more information and get back to like genuinely I'm a busy man right and I've got a lot of stuff going on in my life but I do my best to respond to people as much as I can. How hard is it dude? To fucking respond and it takes me. When someone says to me, oh I'm sorry I'm too busy. You want honestly the thought that comes in my head?
I can't do it. You know, I've got three fucking kids. I'm working like a blue arse guy, like crazy person, right? And then you're telling me you're too busy? Like, fuck you. I'm busy. Don't get me wrong. There are people sometimes that like, I've not by any, like, for doing it on purpose, but you end up just not being able to get back to someone. But then my next message is, listen, I'm so sorry. Exactly. You know, I've been really, really quiet with you. Yeah, I've been good to that. I've forgotten stuff. Yeah. So, so I can understand like we hope like it has happened, but
These people, they're almost sort of like, they act, I think because of their so privileged and they're in a different world. Can you imagine that? But you know what, psychopaths don't say sorry. Yeah, you know what I said, you know, like the ability to say sorry and the ability to say I got it wrong is a big litmus test of how fucking normal you are, how good you are. If you can't say I'm sorry and if you can't say I don't know, then you got fucking problems.
It's really empowering, actually, to say sorry, because it's a very beautiful, humble, vulnerable state that we connect to. And a lot of that is real important. I don't know. I don't know. I haven't got a clue. I don't have a fucking clue. I don't have a fucking clue. I don't know what I'm saying that. No, me neither. But yeah, I do find that it's become an issue for our... I don't want to say a movement because it sounds like we're, you know, like... There's no fucking movement. No, but there is a group of people out there who have got the sort of collective mission, let's say,
and we're trying to do something to be able to counteract all of the fucking digital dystopia that we're seeing.
But the problem is that there's people who are going to say how it is, and then there's people who are going to warm it down to make sure their brand is not affected. So someone very big with a huge social media profile, right? Because, oh, Ahmed, there's this gold company I work with, and I'm making a lot of money, because of the average sales, like 50 grand, and you get like a two, three percent commission. You know, it's a lot of money, Ahmed, because I'm making a lot of money, and, you know, do you want to speak to this guy?
Well, yeah, sure, I'll have a travel. So I started talking to him. He goes, yeah, I'll come on your podcast. I was like, no, no, I'm not inviting you on my podcast. I'm just asking, like, what is your product? He goes, yeah, I'll come on the podcast and talk about it. I'll let, no, I don't do sales, but he'll tell the podcast. And then he goes, OK, well, this is a deal, blah, blah. I went, look, you know, just checking your name and everything. Just to let you know, I'm kind of critical what this Israeli government is doing in Gaza. Do you have a poem of that? He goes, yeah, that won't work for me.
I'm like, well, I'm sorry, I can't do business with you and then you hung up. And he's like, so it comes back to like, you know, are you going to censor yourself? Because when you take that money from people, if you think it doesn't come with strings of time, it's nonsense. Do you know as well, you see this little group of people and every single one of them, they're all sponsored or they're all getting money off of a certain brand. And it's so cringy because it's all like 15% off. You get 15% off if you use my code. It's like, what the fuck?
Do you know what I mean? Like, you don't order up, you need 15% kickback from a fucking, from a bit of produce. But to me, it's just- This is like the game paid you not money for it. Yeah, but what's money? Percentages. What's money? Do you know what I mean? What for selling your soul to the devil? Yeah, fuck that, mate. I'd rather be skimp. Do you know what, when I'm doing the beginning of the pandemic, I told people, listen, we can survive on eating dandelion leaves. So how come these bastards, they've got nothing on it? So just go walk around, eat your dandelion leaves, and say, I don't need food anymore. 100%.
That's how far I'm willing to go, Doc. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, but I think what your experience in my experience is shown is it's just there's a lot of fake people out there. Danny. Danny. Danny. I was actually so fucking disappointed. I'll give an example, right? I was saying, you might find this funny, but I used to think orthopedic surgeons were arrogant. No, it is another one around the corner. So I used to think orthopedic surgeons were arrogant and fucking toxic and backstabbing and competitive. You know, type A personalities.
You know, honestly, our speech surgeons are like kids in a kindergarten compared to these fucking, some of these terrific people. You know, the personalities, the egos.
It's just shocking. And it's so transparent. The average person, I don't think actually understands. They're just so like, oh my god, that person is on there. They're so good. Because they're PR's good. They're PR's good. And the PR is the one that public relations is so disingenuous. That fucking makes me so cringe, so cringe. It's all about that. It's all going to come out. They can't hide from it because the truth, the truth, it takes no victims. It's all going to come out eventually.
This is what I think. It's genuinely what I think. I think at the end of the day, truth will come out and people will see who is genuine, who is not. To me, it's size. It's pretty obvious, but I think everyone's going to see it because, you know, they're so late on the uptake in it. The things that we're talking about, when it all becomes so public knowledge, then they'll start talking about it. And that's not, that's not your finger on the pulse. Do you know what I think one of the most valuable commodities is?
being trusted. Can you imagine, like, when everything comes out, like, how much, how, how good position we'll be in? People will be like, these guys were trustworthy. They never fucking took that. They never split. I'm going to try and park on the front, because it's closer to where we're going. They'll be like, these guys never sold their soul to the devil. That is priceless. Do you know what I think, sir? Do you want all you want here to be really fucking funny?
I almost got recruited into the church of Scientology. Did you? Yeah, the guy was like, what do you want? Why is it you need in life? Like, you know, we look after our own. I was like, but are you not a cult? And he goes, like, what would you define as a cult? And I was like, well, you know, like charismatic leadership that you can't question, you know, control of your money and your life and everything that you do. And, you know,
Anyway guys, I hope you enjoyed that bonus content. We're gonna get some steak. Yeah
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