#258 - Nick Bradley: From COVID to Christ
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November 25, 2024
TLDR: Doc Malik had a thoughtful conversation with Nick Bradley about challenges faced by healthcare professionals during COVID-19, discussing quarantine protocols, staffing shortages, changing guidance, and the potential lack of open discussion within the medical community regarding decision making. Nick raised concerns that science was not driving measures but rather fear, groupthink, corruption, and money.
In this engaging episode of Doc Malik’s podcast, healthcare professional Nick Bradley shares his transformative journey through the COVID-19 pandemic and his experiences within the medical field. He provides a critical perspective on the healthcare system during the pandemic, highlighting challenges, insights, and personal revelations that reshaped his views on medicine and spirituality.
The Impact of COVID-19 on Healthcare Professionals
Nick opens up about his experiences working in medical facilities during the height of the pandemic, focusing on:
- Challenges Faced: Staffing shortages, ever-changing mask protocols, and quarantine policies that seemed disconnected from scientific evidence.
- Critical Questions: He raises concerns about the decision-making processes within hospitals and the influence of fear and corruption in guiding health practices.
- Alternative Perspectives: Emphasizes the need for open discussions in the medical community about treatment methodologies and controversial issues like hydroxychloroquine.
The Awakening Journey
Throughout the episode, Nick discusses several key experiences that led to his awakening and realization:
- Realization of Misguidance: Initial insights into the ineffectiveness of masks, despite official recommendations, and a growing concern about the medical community's adherence to top-down directives.
- Support for Traditional Approaches: Advocated for alternative treatments and the importance of nutritional support during the pandemic.
- Vaccine Controversies: Explores his hesitations regarding the rapid rollout of vaccines and gleaning wisdom from past experiences regarding medical procedures with insufficient backing.
Personal Transformation and Spiritual Awakening
Nick’s journey takes a deeply spiritual turn when he discusses:
- Finding Faith: The pivotal moment of his spiritual awakening occurring through a specific Bible verse just as he was offered a new job, symbolizing his path towards integrated functional medicine.
- Mission to Help Children: His shift towards pediatrics, advocating for nourishing healthy food and holistic health within families, particularly focusing on the harmful impact of processed foods and vaccines on children.
- Sharing Love and Healing: He underscores the significance of love and connection in healing practices, emphasizing the need to foster nurturing environments for children and families.
Essential Health Tips for Parents
Nick shares crucial advice for parents, emphasizing the following:
- Prioritize Breastfeeding: Stressing the health benefits of breastfeeding for both mom and baby.
- Clean Eating: Encouraging families to eliminate processed foods, seed oils, and conventional dairy, and to prioritize fresh, organic options.
- Environmental Care: Advocating for clean living spaces and diverse dietary sources to cultivate a healthier home environment.
Conclusion: A Call for Community and Critical Thought
In the closing remarks, Nick emphasizes:
- Rejecting Fear: Encouraging individuals not to succumb to fear but instead embrace love and knowledge.
- Community Engagement: He believes in the importance of community connections and being actively involved in one’s own health and that of loved ones.
As highlighted in the podcast, the transition from conventional to integrated medicine is not just about treatment; it's about nurturing communities and fostering a healthier, more informed society.
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Seriously, how long has it been? Like, we were meant to do, uh, support your stories and that didn't work out. I don't even remember why. March. March was that March? March. I had the original link March 1st sent to my email. Oof. Oof. Right. Okay. And we've been chatting a bit as well, haven't we?
We have, we have. And you send me, you send me this absolutely glorious picture from Alaska and your family fishing. And then, yeah, and the mountains absolutely gorgeous. By the way, I have to say your beard is proper majestic. It's, yeah, it's good, man. I usually, like I said, like one, one shave a year.
And, uh, I let it go the rest of the year. I think my wife said next time just leave alone. So I think I'm, I'm going for gold. We'll see where it goes. Wow. Like you're like grows. Wow. Like to like, I don't know like how much you have to manage it. Like it just comes down. And then it's like this solid, strong, like look to it. Like I let it grow and it just starts getting all.
like frazzled everywhere. And then it's itchy. And then I look, I look like a bum. I swear to God, I could eat, just give me a shopping cart and dump me in San Francisco. And I would look like I'm part of the landscape, you know, I'd be pushing my car, homeless. You know, that's the look I get. You don't get, you don't have that look. Your, your look is, I'm a, I'm a marine. I'm a warrior. Don't mess with me. How do I get your beard?
Well, I didn't even know I had this until I retired from the service. And then when I retired, I said, I'm not shaving anymore. And then it grew in and I realized, wow, I could actually grow a pretty good beard, I guess. So I just left it alone. Shaving every day is painful for me. It's just the process, the heating up your face and trying not to cut the heck out of my face and going with the grain and then sometimes going against the grain.
You know, I used to do that all the time. And I said, you know, I'm done. I'm retired. I'm, I'm retired. I'm done. So. I like it. All right. Well, I'm doing this little semi beard thing at the moment. I'm kind of building up the courage to let it just go. But I'm not, I'm not ready for it yet. Anyway, listen, apart from beers, we were going to talk about some other stuff that remind me you're a nurse.
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I, my first appointment, I worked with a PA or he was, a PA was assigned to our unit. I got to do some work with him and saw what he did. And I said, man, that, that right there said, I, I want to be doing that. And he said, you know, you could apply. And I, and I look back at my transcripts and I realized I already had most of the prereqs at the time I was going to go to pharmacy school, then I realized I don't want to sit on my ass all day. So that pharmacy wouldn't work for me.
But I did all the prereqs. So I had all those banked, and then I decided to go ahead and apply, and I got into PA school through the Army, and I did schooling, training through the Army, and I served as a PA for about 11 years up until 2020.
And at that time, I retired. And it was, it was actually a very interesting timing on my part because I submitted my retirement and the way the army works in the US side is you submit your retirement a year in advance. And then they grant you whether or not you could retire. So if there's needs and they want to keep you in, they can tell you're not, you're not retired. We're not going to let you go. So in 2019, I submit. Oh, and you know, I serve in a field, a very small field.
So PAs are very important to the mission, especially medical readiness in the Army side. You know, we work with a surgeon, but you'll have six, seven PAs for every one surgeon. So they're very, very integral part of
So, you know, when I put in my retirement in 2019, this was before COVID happened, man. I was going to write down the sunset of Alaska and kind of do some homesteading and then maybe some PA jobs on the side and just do it up. And subsequently, I end up working for the largest medical provider in Alaska.
And they're headquartered out of Seattle, and they're a very big hospital organization, very big one. But they read well. They had a nice mission statement about the patient for the patient, the downtrodden. It really pulls the heartstrings, says, yeah, this is what I want to get into. I want to help people. So jumped into urgent care. It seemed like it's a natural fit for me doing trauma medicine and then doing a lot of orthopedic emergency medicine on active duty.
Urgent, you know, urgent care was the natural fit. So I end up working for this major hospital. And then I found a side job with a smaller hospital, but another big player in Alaska. So I was doing urgent care throughout that time. So, you know, as I was transitioning out of the military, you know, I had my retirement grant in 2019 and then in about mid 2020.
Well, actually, early 2020. So right when this started kicking off in China, I was the chief of the Army Medical Clinic here in Alaska. So it was basically my clinic.
And I was transitioning with a doc at the time. He was coming in from Hawaii, and this was his first gig as a chief of a clinic. So we were looking at things, and we talked about it all the time, like, hey, if China's shutting down their economy, it's coming over here. I mean, we're in the game. And being in the service, one thing that we do a lot of, it's forward training, forward planning. You're always thinking about next enemy, next threat, next assessment.
And you plan that, you war game. We have a process. It's called MDMP. It's a military decision-making process. It's a whole rigmarole we go through just to war game this. So when you see stuff about, hey, we run prepared, we run prepared, that's hogwash. I mean, this is what we think about. We think about these scenarios. Now, obviously, not to the extent to where every country lines up and does the exact same thing, but we think about this stuff.
So, you know, we got to talk in just he and I about what could we do for our clinic because it looked legit. You know, I mean, people dropping dead in China. I mean, this looks legit. You know, we got it. We have a charter to protect our troops. And I advise the, you know, division surgeon who's the chief surgeon, the garrison operation, so runs the installation. I provide information and advise as I see fit for my level.
So looking at it, we were like, well, China's wearing masks. Should we wear masks? I didn't even know anything about masks. The only thing I knew about masks is we wore them when you go into surgery so you don't get blood products in your face and anything. Exactly. Yeah, I didn't wear a mask to protect me from anything. Just put a mask on.
So I never really thought about it in terms of does it will protect us from this, but China's wearing it. And I came across this interesting YouTube video, you know, looking back on a complete propaganda. But I watched this video and I talked about how the, you know, the infections rates are dropping in China, you know, wearing these masks and I'm thinking, well, that's interesting. Should we, we, we should probably, I got a staff, the staff can wargame this and take a look at it because if we can start protecting do some forced protection for our troops here ahead of time, then let's do it.
So, you know, we, I had my staff look out and I said, let's go to the CDC website, see what you can find me on information on wearing masks and what masks we should get and protect ourselves with. So at the time, there were 13 studies and they were published on the CDC website. The 13th study that existed was a meta-analysis. Now meta-analysis covered all the previous studies and these studies date all the way back to late 1990s or 2000s. Every one of these studies was done either on influenza. I think one was on H1
and whatever the end of the time was, may have been on that. But they were mainly on influenza. So at the time we knew that influenza was a larger particle than this coronavirus. So you had these studies that existed. So we looked at it. We'd take a look at the meta-analysis. And the meta-analysis said there was no benefit. There was no benefit on putting on a mask that it showed any protective measures against. And these were in long-term health care facilities. They were in hospitals.
So we looked at that and said, well, we can't implement that. I can't go to the division surgeon and say, hey, we should wear a mask, but here's a study that shows that it doesn't work. So this is, you know, like I said, back to early 2020. So we didn't do it. We said, let's not implement this because it doesn't seem, uh, doesn't seem reasonable. It wasn't too long after that Fauci went on a 60 minute and said, you know, masks don't work. You shouldn't wear a mask. And there it was like, okay, look,
We're on it. Guys, we were ahead of the marker. We knew they didn't work beforehand. At least we didn't implement this stupid policy on our troops. And then what happens two weeks later? Not only that, but the army surgeon and the surgeon general of the United States comes out and says, we need to wear masks.
And I'm thinking, that doesn't make sense. This is just two weeks ago, he said not to. And now we're doing this, that didn't pass the common sense test to me. Because we read the studies. There's no other study out there showing any benefit.
So, you know, that was kind of my transition as I was getting out of the service wise, you know, I kind of just brushed that aside. Said, it doesn't matter. I'm out three months. I mean, at this point, buddy, I turned over, John. I said, it's, it's on you. I don't know what we can do now that they're wanting to swim as they don't, they don't work.
It looks like this is one of those things where you're going to get guidance from the top. Nothing from below is going to be passed up. Nothing. This is a top-down operation. You're just going to follow, salute the flagpole, and move on. How'd you square that, though? You must have maybe experienced that in the army where the senior level just implemented bullshit policies and the grunts and the grinder like, what the hell?
What is wrong with these people? So I guess you've seen that before and you thought maybe this is just something like that again. Is that it?
Yeah, we call it, you know, leading from the talk. So the tactical operation command, that's back, back, right? So division or army forward, you're out fighting a battle and division's looking back on screens on where everybody's at, you know, what's going on. And then they're trying to guide you. You're on the ground and you've got action, you know, action on this side, action on this side, you know, going this way is the best move, but they're telling you to go straight in like, wait, guys, you ain't here.
You're not on the ground. You got to let us just do what we need to do. We call that commanding from the talk. At least we did. And that happened all too frequently.
all too frequently, commanders want to get up in the business, they want to be involved, and they're just not on the ground. And they're not seeing what's in front of you. And it's the same thing that I saw initially with COVID, is that what I was seeing on the ground, at least initially, right, because we didn't have any cases, we didn't have any new infections, nothing happened.
This was just us planning for a potential operation. If China shuts down their economy, it's coming to the US. Like, that was a foregone conclusion to me. There ain't no way that this is not going to impact anybody else. If, in fact, China really did shut down their economy, which they did, then, buddy, it's coming our way. So what do we get to do to prepare? How do we get our guys ready? And this is obviously under the pretense that we believe that there's this infectious
virus that is has an R not of what they say for initially something insane. Like you're, you're going to start wiping out hundreds of thousands of people within weeks. That's, that was the fear factor embedded initially into this thing. So being of the mindset where I'm coming from, it's like, let's plan. You know, there, there ain't no turning away. Let's go to our arsenal. Let's pull everything we got out. Let's figure this out because that's just way we're built.
But it's shut down. All of a sudden, the planning stopped. Just take the guidance. Take the pill. Take the guidance. Put the masks on. We're going to start doing quarantine. It's like, what are we doing?
This is, you know, even then early on, you had early publications. But I think by John I.E.D.s out of Stanford, who was a great epidemiologist, a well-renowned epidemiologist. And this guy published initially, he ran a study in Santa Clara. And this was right off the get-go, showing that the R-naught was false. So you already had information out there that was countering the narrative before the narrative actually set foot. He was basically saying, no, no, no, no. This infection isn't likely.
So we were aware. So we basically just were in receipt mode. And so at that point, you know, like I said, in my position, I was already out. I was working in energy care. I was already in my transition. So I try not to get too bogged down and too emotionally attached to this because it wasn't my operation. I've turned over the clinic. It was now in under the supervision of this new doc. And I wanted to give them.
space to kind of run it the way you're going to run it. I'm just going to kind of slide on out of here. And that's essentially what I did. And then I slid right into the biggest hospital in Alaska and dealt with some of the most corrupt things I've seen. And it was it's far for the course across the board. Like what do you mean? What do you mean? Like some of the most corrupt things you've seen like what? So, so right on the gate, right?
do this in urgent care. So urgent care, as you know, is kind of like the front lines. It's the first stop people are going to the emergency room, unless it's true emergency and maybe we'll still go. But urgent care is kind of the front line. So that's your litmus. If you want a litmus in what's happening, check your urgent cares. Find out what's going on in the urgent care. So that's what we're at. But what they end up doing instead of
identifying what the threat is and what we can do as clinicians, it was only react to what the CDC puts out. So every guidance that the CDC would put out, we follow. And that it was nothing medicine. There was no guidance in medicine. It was they get sick and they go home. And then if they're dying, then they go to the emergency room.
That was the guidance. There was no medicine, zero. We didn't talk about how to treat, what would be effective. Look, what we know about viral illnesses. What was interesting, and here's where the corruption comes in, is they would follow these quarantine protocols to where if you had exposure, you had to be away from work for seven days.
with just exposure, no symptoms, just exposure. And then if you had any symptoms, it's 14 days quarantine. So they kept implementing this policy, which was impossible because everybody has exposure and everybody can show, or anybody can show a symptom. So it started taking people out of clinic and it took people out of the hospital. And then they would go out and say, our hospital's overrun.
We're seeing all our rooms filled. No, you're not. What you're seeing is you're understaffed. You've taken away half your staff because of stupid isolation and quarantine protocols. You've limited your ability to actually see patients. So this is where I saw initially said, wait, this is not right. They're out there talking to the Anchorage Daily News and talking about how we're a wash with patients right now. We're at capacity. No, you're not.
You're at minimum capacity because you have minimum staffing. And that's what we're seeing. So what changed? Not that I saw. So on the ground.
In urgent care, I'd see the same stuff come through. So this is 2020 in the fall and Alaska, we didn't get hit. Nothing. I mean, it was nothing. It was just a blink of an eye, but we had staffing crisis. We shut down most of our urgent care clinics because most of the providers wouldn't see patients. They were too afraid to see patients. So as a result of that, they went to telemed. They kept open only two of our clinics for the most part and then ended up opening a second one.
And we only had like literally two or three providers of an impoundment of what 15, maybe that would go into clinic and see patients. The rest said, no, no, I want to be doing. So that's an Alaska. I just want to interject and say, I was seeing the exact same stuff here. Exact same. So my colleagues in the NHS.
They were told not to come to work. You're an orthopedic surgeon, hip operations are canceled, knee operations are canceled. And just stay at home. So waiting lists were building up. I've got colleagues and paramedics and hospital managers telling me that Annie was dead quiet. There were no sick people. There was no wave of sick people coming in.
And the testing and the exposure thing was the same. All staff had to be tested. And now we know these tests had an extremely high false positive rate. So they would keep picking off people. And as soon as you tested positive, you're off for two weeks. So now suddenly there's a staffing crisis. My wife is a junior doctor. She would tell me, oh, another colleague has tested positive. I went, did they have any symptoms? No. Oh, but they're off. So now suddenly there's no junior doctors and like half the junior doctors are off at home.
with a positive test without any symptoms. So how do you run an on-call service? How do you run a department? It just can't, everything started from, nurses were off, everybody. So they were absolutely, there was a staffing crisis because everyone's testing, mandatory testing, you have to keep testing, testing, testing.
And then, oh, you're positive. Have you got symptoms? No, doesn't matter. Go home. Go home for two weeks. And it's like, what does that do to the service? It just absolutely destroys it. And then they went, all the services breaking down. You have to save the NHS and, you know, clap, clap outside on a Thursday night and bang pots and pans. I mean, it's actually taking the piss.
You know, and that's how we're going to save the NHS. And then the next thing they said was, we need to save the NHS. Everyone needs to get vaccinated. It's all bullshit. Anyway, so I'm just telling you, it's the same stuff was happening here. Anyway, carry on.
Yeah, obviously we've evolved so much since then. You can see the coordination and the effectiveness of their planning. It's just very well done. But anyway, so we had staffing crisis after staffing crisis. We had limited clinics open and available to the public when we didn't even have a crisis. Then of course, the orders came down that we're testing everybody.
Right. This, this was announced like everybody's going to come in or testing everybody, no matter what. And that's when I said, okay, this is never once we've done this in any medical crisis where we just test everybody. So that's where I went. I started then, you know, now my brain is really, you know, that the trust factor is, is really out the window. I really want to start seeing things for myself.
And that's when I started searching and that's when, you know, the McCulloughs came out and I started seeing, you know, what he was producing with the FLCC was producing. So I was looking for an outlet. I was looking for somebody else. Somebody out there has got to be seen what I see.
Right? I mean, in Alaska, it's a little bit more isolating than in typical places, but I mean, I'm alone. I'm literally the only one, maybe, maybe another one in our clinic kind of thought about these things as well, but not to the extent. I mean, it's like this, this doesn't, this isn't past the test. So I'm looking at these protocols are put publishing and the one that really got me interested was the hydroxychloroquine.
All right. Now, Mikola's talking about this and Zad Zalenko. I read what he's been doing in New York. And I'm thinking, okay, this is interesting. And the reason why is I have, I've used hydroxychloroquine, you know, being deployed. We use it as malaria prophylaxis. So I prescribe that many, many, many, many, many times to troops and never had any problems. So I'm thinking, well, okay, I've actually got experience with this. Now I'll be it in a, in a different area, more for the parasitic side, but at least I can, you know, have familiar with the drug.
So I start gathering everything that he's publishing and Zebzalenko's publishing on this to see if, okay, maybe we can do something. Because again, my mindset is we have a problem, right? The solution to the problem is not to create a bigger problem. The solution to the problem is to give people hope and to give them something. Because it's all it is, is fear at this point. People coming in my clinic, they either have a respiratory illness, that is typical,
And then becomes more atypical because it's compounded by fear. And when that fear starts kicking in, man, I tell you, you see a whole different realm, whole different realm in terms of sickness. But you subtract the fear, then you were dealing with a typical viral or whatever you want to call it detox, whatever it is that time of season. That's what you're dealing with. So.
You know, I put together a presentation and I asked my boss if I can present to corporate on what we should be doing, you know, because I've got a background in clinic management. I've done this before. You know, I don't, I'm not just some, I want to, I want to put together a product for them and have that discussion amongst, I would love to have a talk with a doc and I'd like to hear from a doctor perspective on, hey, no, this is kind of what we're thinking. That's all I want to hear.
I want to have that conversation because sitting on our, on our assets in a time where people are this fearful is not a solution. And then telling people just to come randomly test is furthering the issue that we're trying to prevent. So I pushed up the corporate. My boss said, yeah, we got, we got you a forum. So this is, we're going now into late 2020, right? We're going into winter. This is before the vaccine even is even rolled out or even considered. So I think we're like around November or so.
And so I get a forum and I present on Zoom to a bunch of folks in Seattle and then my, our staff and I talk about, you know, looking at here, here's a couple of protocols that are being used out there. No matter what we need to be looking at doing some type of vitamin supplementation, you know, focusing on nutrition, focusing on
getting their immune systems boosted during this time, but using the hydroxychloroquine in cases that we have confirmation with any type of abnormal findings, whether it be fever or you're carrying some other concerning symptom. They didn't want to hear it.
So they basically went through my entire spiel. Nobody asked a question. So I thought that was odd. They didn't really have any questions. I mean, is this something we want to consider implementing? Is it clinical protocol? Nothing. And then all I got back was we'll get back to you in a few weeks. So within about a week, I get an email back and they send me the hydroxychloroquine study out of the Lancet. Now,
At that time, that study has already been proven to be fraud. So this is way after the fact. And they sent me that study to say, this is why we're not going with hydroxychloroquine. At least it was day it was through my management, nothing from corporate. It didn't directly come. But the sort of setting backs. Just one second, we need clarification. So you presented to what the management, the senior management of this hospital group,
Yeah, no, it was the way the hospital group works is you have the top of the corporation, then it's broken up into urgent care, hospital, long-term care facilities. So I was under the urgent care umbrella leadership, not all way to corporate CEO or anything like that. But are we talking about we're talking about doctors, MDs, management, we're talking about those kind of people, yeah? Yeah.
And just a reminder of people about the Lancet paper, because some people might not know about the Lancet paper. Can you just talk about that? Because people might be like, might not 100% be sure what you're talking about. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Early in the pandemic, when, when hydroxychloroquine was even considered, no, because even the president at the time, Trump mentioned hydroxychloroquine.
There was a multi hospital study that came out in record time. Thousands upon thousands of patients were studied. They were giving way more of the dose that would normally be given if you're going to treat somebody in an outpatient setting for this supposed coronavirus.
Um, but they gave him double double sometimes triple dosing and the, the, the volume, the fraud was in the volume, how fast they were able to tie a study of that magnitude together in that amount of time, and then to get published peer or peer reviewed and published in the Lancet, no less.
was a feed unto itself. I think only beaten, by the way, by the fat, the 24-hour PCR peer review that occurred overnight for the course nap, uh, uh, drows and corn, of course, and drows and what a corpsman drows and paper. That's pretty, that was pretty stellar, and that's a whole different ball of wax. But anyway, um, yeah, so that, that study was proven within weeks to be fraught, and they had to retract, and it was pretty embarrassing because the lance, it hadn't retracted the paper in a very, very long time.
So they sent me that paper. I look at it and go, are you kidding? Do you guys not even know this has been retracted and it's fraud? So I went back to my boss, I said, you could send it back. I mean, you know, if that's what we're doing, that's what, but that this isn't, this isn't medicine and we're not helping anyone. So then begin the.
The emails, I think I would call actually actually let me back up a little bit, something else was pretty interesting. So in order to create this environment of fear, I look back on a lot of things and I able to pick up on them now.
And one of the things they did is you had these apps, right? So if you had a patient, you put in for a test. Let's say I got a patient that I have something very concerning and I'm going to send it forward for this test. Well, this app, if it's critical, it'll send it back to you and you'll get on your phone a message. You have a critical result pending for so-and-so and then you go and read the critical results. So even out of work, you're always getting those results back and you don't miss something.
They were using that for COVID and them telling asymptomatic. So I was getting nonstop on my phone, critical. All of these were considered critical, critical positives for COVID. It would not end. And then I tell you, brother, I'd have, I'd go a day and have 25 things on my phone for this critical result.
perpetuating this case, like, Oh my gosh, this is chaos. You know, you got critical sicknesses all the time. And this is just building that in the mind of so many people. So anyway, you know, I look back on that and I thought, well, that's pretty, pretty ingenious, because I would consider that less than critical. This, you know, on any juncture, frankly. So anyway,
Nothing changed as far as what I saw in clinic, apart from the fear. That was the only difference that I saw in patients' subset. It was the fear component. And we had a lot of that. No doubt. A lot of people were afraid. Then we started getting messages. The vaccine's coming. We're going to get approval. If you are a medical service provider, you will have priority. We need to know if you're interested or if you want to wait. Well, I kept clicking on my way.
You know, coming from the service and understanding, I come from the service, man, I lined up. And I, you know, my, I probably should preface my awakening to vaccine in 2018. And I'll get into that a little bit on where I started becoming very critical of vaccines in general. And that occurred for me in 2018. So it was before.
Uh, but this, it was definitely on steroids and I was prepared for what, what transpired as a result of a prior experience. And I'll, I'll get to that just a sec. But this was the kind of the preparation providers are you going to do this? You're going to do this. You do this and they'd send you every month, a reminder. Vaccine's coming. Vaccine's coming. You're going to do this. And then by the time it got rolled out, vaccines here, you're coming in to get it done next month. Vaccine's here. You're coming out to get this month or you want to wait. You just keep clicking, wait, like what are they doing? I mean, they just really go get your vaccine. Go get your vaccine. Go get your vaccine.
Now, prior to that, so in 2018, as I was chief of this clinic, we had a situation where one of our soldiers was given a multi-dose vial of anthrax, so 10-dose vial. Instead of giving a single dose, the medic made a mistake and pulled all of it and gave 10 doses of anthrax in one... Oh, shit.
Yes, yes. So, the medic comes to my office and he's in a panic and he's like, sir, we just gave a multi-dose vial to a Van Thrax to a soldier. And, you know, I'm seeing my career flash before my eyes and thinking, oh my God, what are we doing?
And I didn't know, like, I think in, you know, this is the first time with the vaccine thing. So I'm like, well, what can we expect? I don't know what to expect. So we need to monitor him. Nothing, you know, initially occurred. So we'll keep an eye on him. So I had got together with my staff again and said, hey, guys, we need to figure out what a overdose of anthrax looks like.
So one of my staff members reached out to the CDC and weeks go by. Fortunately, I heard nothing from the soldier yet, but I haven't heard anything back from my staff on the CDC. So I went back to staff and said, hey, where, where are we? They're like, sir, they don't.
we don't have anybody we could talk to. So then I went and I called. So I reached out direct to the CDC and I said, we gave a soldier a multi-dose file of anthrax. Are there any adverse affect actions that we need to be looked or effects, excuse me, that we need to be looking for? Is there anything I need to do to prepare for this? And they sat there and said, we don't know. I said, how can you not know? The anthrax has been around since the 1980s. You're telling me you had no idea you'd never had a single case of an adverse reaction with anthrax?
No answer. So then I went online and I started Googling anthrax adverse reactions and I came across a study and it blew my mind. What is it? This study was done in 2020 or excuse me 2000. And what it was, it was done on, I don't know if you're familiar with Gulf War syndrome. You've heard of Gulf War syndrome. Yes.
So Gulf War syndrome was killing and injuring a lot of active, retired national guard, active duty reserve, all sorts of service members, all throughout the 90s. It was a serious. Yeah, exactly. Thousands upon thousands injured and died from Gulf War syndrome. So we didn't know what it was. Was it depleted uranium? Was it burn pits? Was it?
You know, the oil fields burning was, did, did Saren agent get out by Saddam? But one other thing that was in the study wasn't the anthrax vaccine. And that's when I was introduced to Meryl Nast because she had a piece on that investigation. She wrote about it. And that's how I learned a little bit about Meryl Nast. And anyway, I'm reading more about this. And the one commonality between all of them was the fact that they, if you had the symptoms,
or excuse me, the anthrax vaccine was the commonality in that many people who never deployed still had symptoms of Gulf War syndrome. How can that happen?
If you're not deploying and not in the elephant, then obviously we can get rid of depleted uranium, we can get rid of seren agents, we can get rid of burpets because you weren't exposed. But you still have the symptoms that qualify as go for syndrome. Therefore, the vaccine seemed to have the most consistency with the symptoms. And there was very, very poor good manufacturing processes involved in that. I mean, there were lots of stuff written up on how bad the anthrax campaign was managed, but what I didn't know
was the anthrax vaccine was under CU's authorization. So, I never even heard of him in CU's authorization. This is 2018. I saw an EUA, and it wasn't approved until 2016.
So I'm thinking, I got at least seven or eight anthrax shots. Not one time was I ever told that, hey, by the way, boss, you're taking a, a, a experimental shot. And here's your informed consent. Never once didn't even know just line up. So I didn't know that anthrax was under a mercy use and I did not know it did not get approved until 2016. So I'm at, that's 26 years later.
26 years later, if I'm doing my math. And was it, and was it even the original anthrax vaccine? Because like sometimes they'd change it and they'd change the formulation. Like, do you even know if it was the original vaccine or whether it's a different one, the one that was authorized? I don't think so. And as you know, under emergency authorization, there's no requirement to submit what the ingredients are and what changes you do. You're under, I mean, it's it's under experimental status.
So it's not like an approved med where we have to have all the items in it. So they could have been changing that formula all throughout. Now, fortunately for me, my first shot didn't come until I deployed in 2004 or 2003. So that was long after that study had been conducted and, you know,
I mean, I'm still here right now, who knows what's getting jacked up. But the point is that that was my aha moment that I didn't know something about vaccines. Nobody seems to know anything about vaccines. And this is the first time in my life that I'm reading about something tied, death tied to vaccines, especially of service members. And that's the first time. And I said, okay, this is mind blowing for me because, you know, it didn't even enter my vernacular.
Vaccines bad, never even part of my, never even part of the discussion. So that was my 2018 kind of awakening to vaccines. And, you know, from that point on, by the time I retired, I had received another shot. I said, I'm done with the flu. I didn't do anything else with the Army. I was able to circumvent all the remaining in my shots until I retired. But, you know, I, you know, that that was
I think that's the moment in my life where I say, OK, this is things aren't as what they seem, at least on the vaccine side. So now fast forward to where I'm at with the company I'm with. And they're pushing this vaccine vaccine and it's under emergency use authorization. So, you know, that light goes off like, hey, man, I've been here before. I've seen this before.
But this time, I understand what it means. So that's when I started reading more about the vaccine, then started getting in any white paper I can read about it, anything about prior studies done. And man, I immerse myself. I got in it. And I read the Immersive Authorization for the PCR test.
I mean, you could read on page 43 where it specifies this did not come from the human tissue sample. That this is literally a computer generated sequence that we put in. So everybody can talk about primers and all the sequences and all that stuff. It was right in the Immersive Authorization document. They never got a sample. So they manufactured a test out of a genomic sequence and it says it in the book. So, you know, I'm not a scientist and I consider myself a common sensitive.
Because today we have so many dang smart people running around doing stupid things. And it just blows my mind that that's where we're at. You wear a white coat, you got 15 little acronyms after your name and all of a sudden you're important and people are going to listen to you. And frankly, that's that's a bad place to be if that's what we're focused on. So, you know, looking at this and seeing the push to put the hard push to get us vaccinated and it's something that went really, really fast.
At the time, none of us had to be a scientist and say, wow, that's pretty quick. For my understanding of vaccines, they take a little time before they come to market. This seems to be pretty quick. And then not only that, to remind me of a month ago, get my shot. That's when I said, OK, this doesn't make sense.
Shouldn't we be giving this to the people, the vulnerable in need? Why are we giving it to our healthcare workers to her front line? We need to protect the healthcare. I mean, I like the concept, but the reality is they kept telling us, do this for granddad, do this for grandma. This is for our, this is for them. Well, if it's for them, then it goes to them. If that's really what it's about. But no, we got to get the hospital buy-in, clearly. So get everybody lined up, get your shot because if I got it, buddy, you'll get yours.
That's the idea, right? Cause once you, once you take it, you got buy in. It's because you're in it. There ain't no going back. So, you know, I saw that rollout and that, that didn't, that rubbed me the wrong way. So I thought, you know, I kept asking my bosses, I said, are they going to mandate this? Is this going to come across as a mandate for this hospital? And they said, no, no, no, no. We're, we're, we're, this is voluntary, you know, we're a,
We are a religiously affiliated facility. So we believe in that aspect of it. So at least the religious perspective, at least according to them. So at that point, it was this summer and they did mandate it. They finally came out and said, yeah, everybody's got to get the shot. You got to get the shot by September. We need to find a new job. And they were letting people go.
So that, that struck a nerve and I was, and I had to for lack of better words, I was pissed. And, and I think, you know, the thing is, man, it's kind of like, you didn't want to listen, you know, we try to have a conversation, you don't want to hear what anybody else has to, you know, if we got ideas to make this thing work. Um, and everybody's solution is what somebody else says. That's your solution. Your solution isn't what you, it's what they're saying. So it's what the CDC said. That's our solution.
So at any rate, I penned, I wrote, I sat down at work and I was really mad. And I went to the Nuremberg Code, and I read the Nuremberg Code. And then I went to Title 21, and I read my Title 21 rights. And because that talks about the Immersive Authorization and our right to inform consent.
I wrote everything out and I said, and I was pissed. And at this time, I've seen how many good docs out there lost their jobs. You know, I'm, I'm already kind of following the naysayer path. Like I'm seeing it. I'm seeing what's going on elsewhere. And so I put it out there.
And I'm at a point in my life where I feel like I've given a lot to this country. I've given a lot to my family. And the last thing I'm going to do is sit down here and have somebody tell me what to do based on some incomplete information they may have. And then as a result of that, if I don't comply, then they have the authority just to remove me. So I had a problem with that.
Um, so I wrote, I wrote a letter and it was pretty, pretty terse letter and I emailed a direct to the CEO of a organization and this is a big hospital and I sent it to him from Seattle and I sent it to his legal department. I sent it to HR. I sent it to my bosses and I sent it to everyone.
And I basically told them that this is bullshit. You know, I didn't say bullshit, but you could read through it and hear my rights. And here's what you're doing. You're shutting down to sensing voices. You're not listening to any alternative thought processes right now. We have groupthink to an end degree. And this groupthink is walking us right off a ledge. And what we're doing is we're taking a big individual liberty.
and we're moving autonomy. We're removing a lot of things in which many before me fought for and many before them fought for as well. You're taking away all that. You're pissing on a lot of graves right now. So I put it out there and sent it to him.
never heard anything back. In fact, that's where I got pretty much isolated. You know, I had very limited contact with a lot of my colleagues and because I was out there, Nick's he's he's he's going all in for the the opposition. But you know, because most everybody pretty much lined up and had their shot already. I mean, they lined up day one when they can go get it, they got it done. So anyway, never heard back from him. And then finally,
The hospital said, okay, we will accept religious certain, not all, but we will allow certain religious exemptions. So they sent me this document to do religious exemption. Now, this is before my saving. And I mean, I consider myself spiritual before, but not to where I'm at today, not a saved man, not a relationship I had with God as unlike any time I've had my life now.
Um, so this was prior to that, you know, this was kind of my isolation, my breakdown period, you know, leaving the service. Um, you know, getting isolated by a lot of colleagues there because they had, they were forced to do things they didn't want to do and they didn't want to hear about their, you know, me on the outside saying, what are you doing? Don't, you know, think about what this means. Um, so it was, it was definitely during that, that phase got very, very isolating. So they sent me this document on religious exemption.
And they want specificity. It was unbelievable how intrusive this document was. Said, you know, tell us what chapter verse down the line, down the line, why you believe this and this and this.
And I, I was that even and you're me further. So that is none of your business. So I wrote on there, you're not my judge, jury or execution. You know, God will have his with me when I'm, when I'm done with this world and I leave this vessel. That is not your business and what I believe. And at that time, like I said, I really was on my spiritual journey. I certainly was going through a crucible, not, not to where I met, you know, not what I've been delivered to today.
So I sent that back and basically told them, no, I'm not going to write in here what you want me to write in here. So I'm asking them for them to fire me at this point. I didn't care. You want to send me out, send me out. And that's great. And maybe later on, we can do. Yes, sir. Can I just quickly say, I don't even believe in these medical exemptions anymore. I think they go totally against consent. At the end of the day,
And form consent is you lay out all the facts, you give patients a choice, one of which is very important is do nothing. And you respect the patient's decision. At no point in informed consent is there, well, you know, you can apply for an exemption from the intervention
And it's like, what? No, it's your right to say no. I don't want this. And that should be enough. You shouldn't have to seek a medical exemption because even a medical exemption, you're giving them power to say yes or no.
And you're validating their authority and power over you. It's like, screw you. I don't want it. And that should be enough. So that's where I am with medical exemptions. But I appreciate some people still want to use them. But I actually even think we shouldn't even go that far. We should just simply say no. Anyway, move on, brother. No, no, it's the power of no. That's right. That's why when usually you see little babies, what's the first word they you learn? No, no.
Yeah, there's a reason for that. Yeah, they're learning ahead of time. Don't mess with me. No. So at any rate, at any rate, I, so I put in this exemption in none of your business, not going to happen. And I fully anticipated getting fired at that point. I was ready for it. I don't, you know, I'm done. I'm burning. I'm ready to fire it up. And they didn't fire me. They fired multiple people.
They didn't fire me. They came back and approved my, my, my religious exemption. And I was floored, just absolutely floored. And my boss said, yeah, I'm, I'm glad to see that they're accepting religious exemptions. So I thought that was fascinating. You know, I knew my time with them was limited. Anyway, it didn't matter. I can't, I can't work for an organization is doing what they're doing. And that is doing nothing to help people. And, um, so, you know,
Then I started talking about the vaccine injuries because I saw it in clinic. And one thing, what happened was I had a lady come in for an unrelated, unrelated event.
And she's going through medicalistry. And then I asked, right? She mentioned that she got the vaccine because that's what we're required to ask. You got to ask if anybody's got the vaccine when they come in. It doesn't matter. You got to compound fracture. Did you get your vaccine? Makes complete sense, right? So at any rate, I got this lady with an unrelated thing and we start talking and I mentioned the vaccine.
She looks at me and her eyes start tearing up. Now, this is, this has got to be early summer. So this is before all the other crazy things with them. Um, their eyes, she starts tearing up and then she goes into everything she experienced since the vaccine. You know, she gets these ulcers, these, these, uh, these tremors. Um, she's feeling, you know, a parastasia down at a lower extremities. All these things start, she starts just naming off stuff.
And I'm like, what, what are you talking? She's just going down all these things that have happened to her since she got that shot. So I decided from that point on every patient that I saw, I'm going to ask about their shot and if they have any adverse rents. And man, it was like, like, what was very interesting to me is everybody that talked about the shot said, Oh yeah, I felt it. I had to take a couple of days off for work.
You know, I, you know, so on and so forth. Yeah. Got the shot. Had to take a day off. Got the shot. Had to take time off. Got the shot. I had, you know, dealt with this. Some of my patients got the shot and didn't feel nothing.
said, no, I didn't feel anything at all. I didn't have to work off. Everybody told me the next day at work off because it knocks you out and I didn't feel anything. It didn't hurt, nothing. Now I've had a lot of shots in my life and I'm telling you, I knew every anthrax shot that went in that arm. I mean, it was not like, oh, okay, nothing happened there. So it made me start thinking about placebo. Maybe, maybe they're running placebo out there in the population because they can track you through the cards, they can track you through EMR. It's not hard to see if you want to run a study and see what your product is doing.
Yes, sir. I just want to say you're 100% right. Whenever I've had a shot, I've had a sore arm, and I felt it, and it's ached. Look, I don't know if you know my story. I had one of these goddamn Pfizer shots. And guess what? I felt nothing. I didn't feel anything more. Interesting. Is that interesting? Interesting.
So yeah, and I also just want to quickly see another thing to you. It's almost like you're reading my mind today. So I just want to quickly show you my one tweet of today. Once you understand and know what to look for, you see vaccine injuries everywhere, everywhere. Dude.
This was just over an hour ago, and it's already got a thousand likes. What that means is it resonates with a lot of people. And I don't want to go into the details, but today I went over to my mom's and it was a big family event. We got family from all my siblings congregated.
nice get together. That doesn't happen very often. And for change, it wasn't because of a death or sickness or illness. But I also had a family member come over from the States who I haven't seen in about 15 years. And he's a dad now. He's got three kids. And one of the kids is clearly vaccine injured. And it broke my heart.
And I started asking questions. And yeah, it's all linked to the time, the chronology of when they've got the shots and everything. And it's like you say, like when you start looking, when you understand, when you know what it is you're looking for, you see it everywhere. And the children is the autism, is the eye problems.
It's the ADHD, it's all these allergies we're seeing, all these chronic illnesses, and then the adults, it's in neurological conditions, autoimmune conditions. You know, just at the blit, popping up, popping up, and whenever you ask mainstream doctors, you know, why did you get this? Why did this happen? The answer is always we don't know. Isn't that funny? We don't know. Anyway, carry on buddy. You're not training.
Yeah, they're not there. No, no, and that's the, there it is. They're in lies of rum. Rather, we're not trained to know. We never work. We're trained to treat. That's it. That ain't no knowing though. They'll teach you about a physiological process. You know, they'll go through anatomy and make it sound brilliant. But in the end, you know, nobody talks about the connections ever, not the connections to hear, to hear, to hear, to hear. It's always this in an isolated space. This is an isolated space. Yes. We're not isolation.
So yeah, once I started asking them, it was clear as day. I mean, to me, at least at the time, my observation, remember, don't believe you're lying to AMIs is whatever he tells you. You got to read it in a study to trust it. But what I was seeing was that that wasn't making sense. Many patients that did not have anything at all and most of them did. And the ones that did feel something had something else happened.
And honestly, many of them talked about like it's normal. Oh yeah, my heart seems to flutter now. Yeah. Okay. So you're really worried about the laceration you have on your, your, your hand right now. Yeah. As the priority, we got to get that one, but you've been having heart flutters for the last month, sensing injection. And that has occurred to you that that's a problem. So this is this normalization of, of these feelings. And I started already symptoms. Had one guy come in 35 year old muscle guy, really, I mean,
you know, fit as a federal chest pain. And he had ST depression and global peak D waves. He was in myocarditis and he was in ischemia. And two days post Johnson and Johnson. And when I said, you know, this could be the vaccine you just got, he looked at me dumbfounded. Like that's impossible. Look, I mean, no, no, no, that's impossible. I said, how much heart disease do you have in your family? None. All right. What's your risk? None. Do you smoke? No, do you drink? No, you work out. Yeah. Eat well. Yeah. Okay.
What's the one thing that is different? The one thing, it said J&J vaccine, sent him to the hospital. And then when I looked in the EMR to see his admitted ad, he got admitted for COVID because they went PCR to when he got to the hospital. And they said, OK, you're COVID. And nothing mentioned about his vaccine status. So there's the corruption.
I mean, it was just so blatant and true. And it was sick across the board. So I've long suspected that a lot of what they call COVID deaths and COVID complications are actually vaccine injuries. And a lot of what they call long COVID is actually vaccine injuries.
And it's only in this upside down world that you blame the treatment on, supposedly, the disease. It's obvious these complications are happening and they're just mislabeling them and justifying their position. You're absolutely right. And it's simple. Again, common sense.
In 2020, my car has didn't go up. In 2021, it did. I mean, what more do we need to discuss? And, you know, we want to, we want to make things so complicated and so elaborate and make it so difficult to understand that, oh, no, no, you wouldn't understand. You see, if you really look at the data, you really live the data, you'll see.
where, you know, COVID is related to my car rights, where in simplicity, it's like, no, I didn't see Jack for heart prior. And I saw a lot of heart after that's all I have to say. It's just observation. You know, I've seen a lot of in the medical profession, the management profession is people use fancy terminology, complicated charts and graphs and documents to justify their bullshit.
And I'm sorry, it's all smokes and screens in the Wizard of Oz. You know, behind the curtain, it's just, it's just very simple. You just keep things simple. And I just like to keep things simple. I'm from Glasgow. We don't do bullshit. And I'm working class. I just say it as it is. I've never been the kind of what person to use word salad and word soup and make myself look all flowery and intelligent. I just fucking say it as it is.
And I'll tell you one thing, these people, they hide behind data and statistics and a statistical jugglery and just jargon. And it just so that for the average person, you get a headache just reading it and go, you know, I just don't know, but they must know what they're talking about. And it's all bullshit. I just need to say that. The information overload has just as much as factiness as no information at all.
So you can, you can, you can flow out a ton of information. You're going to send them back to square one where they have none. Yeah. So, you know, we, we got to get back to, you know, I think, you know, human beings are very effective in observation and we should do a lot more observation. We do a lot of talking today, a lot, a lot of damn talking, um, but not a lot of observing, just simply observing what, what is transpiring before us. And had we reflected a little bit more,
I think some of these folks in 2020, 2021 as that was unwinding and just reflected on what they saw, what they saw. So many things could have changed, but they didn't because their reality was created by external influences and their reality was created by too much information instead of just look at the patient in front of you. What are they saying to you? What are they telling you? Well, they're telling me right now that they're vaccine injured. So I believe that.
That's it. What else do I need to say? I don't need a study to prove it. I don't need anybody else to come out and tell me that vaccines don't injure people. I'm seeing it right before my eyes. If the patient tells me that they're vaccine injured, they took a vaccine and things happened that never happened for. That's a vaccine injury. So, you know, after, you know, after dealing with this job, I about had it and I needed to get away from conventional. And at that time, I've read, I mean, you know, I
I went into kind of, I internalized. I started doing a lot more reading. I started really getting into understanding what's going on in this world. You know, I mean, there's so many things to unpack, you know, not just with what's going on with COVID, but what God's green earth is going on with this world? What is going on with people? What is, what is happening with the frequency? And that's what I read, dissolving illusions. I read turtles all the way down. I got into a whole series of course, some already books, which are amazing.
And these books connected, I mean, resonated. And as I'm going through it, it was just validating kind of not my next step. And that was get the hell away from conventional medicine and start doing something that can help people.
And that's when I said, you know, I basically told my job. I'm done here. And I quit before I even had another job. Didn't have anything lined up. I just said, I'm done. I'll go figure out what's next. And, you know, under the good Lord's grace, I found there was a wellness clinic locally that was looking for a provider to come in. And, you know, I had limited training in terms of like functional stuff. So I
went on and I started taking courses and doing what I can to understand as much on that side of the house. But really what it came down to is just healing me, like putting things into me and seeing what happens as I put better things inside, as I do better things on the outside, as I clear my mind, as I meditate. All these things I started doing for me, and they helped. They helped. And I figured, well, this is the next stage.
So that point I transitioned out. I left that medical center with definitely prejudice. I was definitely angry. And if I wrote down in a book, the level of emotion, and I think the biggest one that I had was betrayal. That was the hardest because I lost a lot of friends, people that I served in combat with. I've had
Yeah, I mean, nobody wants to talk to somebody that doesn't see what they're seeing or at least doing what they're doing. And I think the biggest thing is that they just didn't have a fortitude to stand up. But I honestly don't know what I'd have done if I still want to have to duty. It'd been, you know, I'd like to tell myself that I'd have fought hard and pushed back real hard against that shot.
I don't know, brother. I mean, I feel like I would, but I don't know. There's a lot of pressure. I forgive, you know, obviously anybody who makes those type of decisions under that type of pressure because they, they incentivize, right? They put, they tied you well being to it. Yeah, we create a world based off the monetary incentive. Well, that's, you can get people to operate certain certain ways we can, we can change behavior.
So at any rate, I started doing some integrated work, and this is where the doors opened. And I started getting our appointments with patients, and that was unbelievable.
Getting to learn about what's going on with people and spending the time with them, I think had the most profound difference in terms of medicine than anything else has had. Instead of walking into a room for the expectation that I'm going to treat this, I know what I'm doing with you. I walked in each room knowing not knowing what the hell I'm going to come into. Tell me about what's going on and then must work from there.
So it's kind of a shift from, you know, treatment medicine to kind of what I like to call journey medicine, journey with the patient, trial things that, you know, would be functional, i.e. nutrition, you know, putting the right things in our body, starting there as a foundation and then working our way up. Um, yeah, it's been buddy. It's been, it's been pretty amazing. And then, you know, once, once I left, uh, that side, uh, things started happening. You know, I, I, uh,
Um, starts out to family. My family here is saying, Hey, would, you know, would you guys be open to, um, you know, taking this, taking this a different direction? You know, my daughter was entering high school and, uh, we mentioned, uh, we, we want to go try a different place for her high school because Alaska, you know, that high school shut down. They played the game. I wouldn't send my daughter. I won't be homeschooled during COVID and, uh, we made the decision not to send the high school for her going to play this.
Um, but we looked around at other states that didn't do it. Texas stood out. You know, Texas didn't, many of their high schools didn't play the game. Um, so Texas had a balance. I think of all the other other locations out there. So we thought, well, maybe, maybe we try this. So I never, I never got into pediatrics before. And that's how I got entered in the world of pediatric medicine. But you know, we do.
Well, wellness for pediatrics overall, and we are truly a refuge for those that are getting kicked from clinics because they're not conforming to the protocols that the hospital has established. You know, we talked briefly about this on one of our phone conversations and it's sickening. It's beyond ethics at this point, but the problem is we created an incentive structure. There's no incentive for a doctor to go out and learn
How bad a vaccine is if the organization they work for says we're vaccinating everybody, then what is the purpose? What does it serve you to go out and learn? The vaccines are actually very dangerous and injure a lot more people than you think. What's the incentive? If the organization you work for says you're vaccinating everyone. And that's what we've set up. We've said we've constructed these organizations. We're not allowing people to think independently.
And, you know, it says a lot of the individuals still that say, I mean, obviously we're human beings and we serve a purpose because doctor is teacher and teachers need to learn everything to educate. You can't be a teacher if you don't know. So you can't sit down and tell your patients about vaccines. If you don't know, if you haven't read, then you can't tell a patient that a vaccine is safe or effective. So it's an incumbent upon you to do some reading. But, you know, our incentive structures are a problem.
So definitely, they're definitely in it. They're definitely a problem. Nick, because like you said, it's all just management protocols. You know, doctors aren't thinking. There's no critical thinking. They're not treating the individual patient. They're just doing reading off the crib sheet, reading off the computer screen, looking at the flow chart. And I'm sorry, that's what happens. I mean, I know you're a physician assistant, but here in the UK, they've brought out physician associates.
And what it's doing is it's basically eradicating the whole class of doctors. They're just going to be replaced with physician associates with two years of training. They've just got two years of training and it's not even like a degree or anything. It's just two years of training and they're doing the exact same job as doctors. And I think the whole purpose is this class of clinician will not question authority, will not question the hospital management structure.
as if doctors do, but there's still some pesky doctors like myself, you know, which caused trouble with the physician associates, you know, you're not going to have anyone questioning. Everyone will go along and everyone is reduced to a technician. And doctors have allowed this to happen and I don't feel sorry for them.
Because I've done, I've said, talked about this in the past when, when the management class came along and said, you know, you can't have half an hour consultations anymore. You need to treat someone in five, 10 minutes. Doctors never spoke out against this. When management in the government said we're going to mandate care workers or airline pilots, doctors never said anything. Actually,
They were the ones cheering on saying, you know, if patients don't get vaccinated, we shouldn't give them a kidney transplant. We should deny them care, which I think is shocking. You know, doctors were the first ones to say, you know what, if you're not vaccinated, yep, you get back in the line, back of the line. We're not treating you. Um, so now when doctors are being forced out of jobs because they're being replaced by AI and physician associates, I'm sorry.
There's no one left to help you. You're screwed, everyone. It's like that thing in the Second World War. When the communists came, no one saved them. When they came for the communists, when they came for the socialists or whatever, the labor workers, no one could save them. And then when they came for the Jews, no one saved them. And when they came for you, well, there's no one left to save you. Oh, God. That's like, you know, that's the situation, man.
Yeah, no, the purpose of a physician assistant, which they changed the name of physician associate down here too. I think I think that passed as well. Okay. It's what it's a name. The purpose is a force multiplier, right? I mean, the idea of a PA came from was born in the Vietnam War.
And what they saw with the, the corpsmen were doing in Vietnam, and these guys were performing surgeries right next to the surgeon. They were doing everything. And they thought, wow, well, we can use this. The idea was to put physician assistants into rural areas where doctors wouldn't practice. So you work under a physician supervisor, but in rural medicine.
Well, PAs are stupid. They realized that rural medicine wasn't where the money's at. They're going to go into the cities where they can make more money. So never solve the rural problem per se. And there are PAs out there doing rural medicine, which is great. Because I think that's where we make our bank. We're a force multiplier. We go to those areas to help. That was the original, at least idea behind it.
But yeah, now, what you're doing is you establish first a force multiplier, right? We have a surgeon or a physician. You have assistants under, everybody kind of operates together. The assistants do what they're within their scope of practice. The surgeon does what's in his scope of practice. The idea is brilliant if you run it accordingly. But then what we do is everybody wants to become further specialized.
So the PAs want to make more money. So they're going to start specialize. And they're going to do more than you would typically do as a PA because you're specialized. And then you make more money. And then you got nurse practitioners now that are getting doctorates. Now you call nurse practitioners doctors. It's just, it's just, again, the incentive structure just is going to create the problem. But then what they see is we don't have to pay PAs, or nurse practitioners, as much as a doctor, we can get away with a lot more.
So we could just throw a bunch of PAs in practice. They could see triple the volume that you would have with two docs. You'd pay four to five PAs, which you pay for two doctors, and you're going to get greater output, greater revenue. Hey, because you know what? You're still billing. You may get only 70% on that. That bill, but you're seeing a heck of a lot more. So instead of getting 100% reimbursement, you get 70% but you're seeing double.
So you're still making more money. So again, I mean, it's the incentive structure. If we if we can't eliminate the incentive structure of people to look elsewhere and do the right thing, then it's what it is. But you're right. The hospitals have set up algorithm medicine. Algorithm medicine is dangerous at best. And
And the dumbest thing I've seen at worst. I mean, algorithm medicine is for we use that when we have medics for deployed that don't have any guidance whatsoever. You know, give them some basic algorithms on when to shoot back something that needs clinical attention. Because you can't, you can't, you don't, I can have 50,000 docs running around with 100,000 PAs. It doesn't work that way.
You know, that you have a few PAs, far less docs and a lot of medics. So those medics need ideas on what to look for, on what they need to treat and send or send back. That's how algorithms are supposed to work. Not in an organization, not in a hospital where there are doctors, where there are PAs, where there are nurses and staffing. That's not a place to say, here's your algorithm. That's a place to figure it out.
That stuff ain't happening. We're not there to solve problems. So we're there just to go ahead and feed the machine. Let's just keep that administrative machine, those stockholders, shareholders, wherever they are, keep them company, make sure they got theirs. That's the idea. So until you get rid of that mindset, that incentivization, until we remove doctor's ability to make money from pharmaceutical companies,
You're not gonna fix the problem. There's no incentive for them to learn. So, you know, the thing is, I had never been trained as long as a doctor. My indoctrination came through the military. That was a lot of indoctrination. I couldn't imagine having eight years indoctrination in medical school. So mine's a little bit less. So it's easier to crack this and say, okay, get out of it, get into the open space and stay away from those corners. But, yeah, we need to fix that. And I got to tell you, you know, I sent you a picture and on my,
My journey up, this was a fifth trip I've made across the Alcan Highway from the lower 40 to. It's usually about, depending on where you're at, anywhere from three to 5,000 miles. So anywhere from four to 6,500 kilometers. That's the drive. Wow. It's beautiful. We camp along the entire way. We go out and we're out. And you know, all the things that stood out, it stands out every time I make that drive. Every time I make the drive, it's abundance.
Abundance. I drive. All I see is beauty. Never ending beauty. I don't see a 5G tower. I don't see a telephone pole. All I see is water, trees, mountains, animals, green, bees, flowers, abundance, and that abundance.
You know, we're stuck in a world of scarcity. It's out there, you know, this mindset of scarcity. That's the idea that, you know, this, you know, doctors, let go just real quick. Let me finish this point real fast. So like doctors, you talk about the problem you're having in England right now with doctors. Well, in the United States, they didn't have a medical school rebuilt.
2030 years before they built a new medical school. I did a study when I was in PA school on the census of physicians. The census stayed the same. 15 years, they were producing the same amount of physicians each year. So you're creating scarcity within your own. Of course, PA's are going to pick up the baton and nurse practitioner to pick up the con. You're trying to corner the mark.
That's what it looked like to me is you're not producing what's needed. So you're creating scarcity instead of operating in abundance. And this, this, this, this thing is taken as where we're at. And I'm sorry, go on. I mean, you're about to say something. That's really funny. You bring back memories of a conversation I had with Chris Martinson on my podcast.
And he talks about peak prosperity, but he's also, you know, someone who believes that there's scarcity. He believes in the scarcity model. He believes that there's going to be peak oil and peak resources. And that's why I now understand what he means by his podcast, peak prosperity. And he interviewed someone called Dennis Meadows. And, you know, in this, you know, they kind of seem to agree in a lot of things. I found that shocking because Dennis Meadows
is one of the original founders of the club of Rome, and he wrote a book called Limits to Growth. And this is way back in 1972 or something like that. And what his argument was, things are running out in this planet. Resources are running out. And you know what? There's too many people.
And at the rate that we're at, if we have all these people, unless we do something about it, we're going to just have to accept a lower quality of life, lower standard of living, and more draconian controls and less freedoms. Or the alternative is have less people, have a higher quality of life, and more freedoms. But we need to have a lot less people.
My opinion is, my opinion is, frack you.
God has made this world abundant. Just like you just said, you're driving these fields and you're seeing greenery and bees and flowers and water and nothing else. The world is abundant. If you go all the human beings on the planet and give them like a homestead or whatever, it fill up Texas and the rest of the world would be empty.
There's enough. There's enough for everybody and the people, the people who go about saying, Oh, there's not enough and we put it in the world and the world is going to die.
They're the greedy people. They're the malthusians. They're the ones who've created the problems, who've impoverished us, made us sick, made us poor, made the waters and the rivers filthy and polluted, and the skies polluted, and the land and soil depleted of all its nutrients. They're the ones who've actually created the problems.
And then they throw at our faces and say, oh, it's because there's too many of you. All of this that we've created, all these problems, actually, it's your fault because there's too many of you. And when there's less of you, the world will be a better place. You know, I call that bullshit. You know, my advice to your guests would be to take that drive, apparently. But you know, I sent you a picture and I said, I want to mention that picture to you. And I think it
It kind of encompasses what where I'm going with this in that in that idea of abundance versus scarcity. So on our way up all through Canada, we see thousands and I mean.
thousands of acres, these just vibrant, glowing yellow flowers. I mean, like they, I couldn't, no camera can do the justice on how vibrant these yellow flowers were, okay? And they have fields of these, amid fields, thousands, everywhere to go you see these just flowers. So we stopped at a restaurant in a little town and
I'm talking to the host or the restaurant host there. And I asked him, I said, what are these farm fields of glowing yellow flower? I know what they are. I saw the picture and it made me very sad.
Yes, you know exactly what they are. I didn't know. He said, well, that's, that's canola. And I said, that's rapeseed. He said, no, no, no. That's the genetic modification of the rapeseed. That's our Canada canola. And I looked at that and I said, wow. So here we are in a world of abundance. You have thousands of fertile acreage, which probably not very fertile. They're probably spraying the hell out of it.
But you look at this, this is what we're going to feed you people. That's what they're saying is we have this abundant farmland and their soy, lots of soy fields. I've seen soy, but.
It was canola, canola, canola, canola, canola, canola, canola, canola. And I'm smiling thinking, well, what, what, what benefit to humanity do these fields have? You've taken a abundant resource and you've shit on us with it. That's what you've done. So when we go back, we talk about abundance, you know, we have it. It's there.
If anybody's extracting and taking from this beautiful planet, it is simply these corporations that think that the best interest of us is to feed us garbage, to make us sick, to feed us back into the pharmaceutical machine and have that never ending pipeline of financial gain.
It's insanity, man. But you had this beautiful, beautiful farmland, and it was crazy. And the thing is, when I first saw those flowers, I thought like, that doesn't look natural. They don't look like those are real flowers.
I mean, they're real for what it is, but they, it made sense now in terms of genetic modification because the big difference was, and I forgot to send you this pic and I will later, but when we rolled into the Yukon territory of Canada, we came across a mountain that suffered fires, many, many fires, many, many acres turned out. And this was years ago, you could tell, but you know what God did? He grew with all that wonderful new nitrogen and whatever,
Compost was remaining. He grew these, I mean, purple flower. I mean, I've sought mountains of purple flowers I've never seen before. It was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen on that drive and I've done the drive five times. But to see mountains, knowing that mountains were burned out and then now vibrant with these beautiful wild purple flowers. So you just see these mountains of purple. It was something I've never seen before. But that's the beauty of nature, right? I mean, nature can take care of itself.
Yeah, go back to that. Yeah, I go back to that. I think, you know, you know, I know we went on a little tangent down the on this way, but the scarcity. I find scarcity in the same frame of mind as fear.
You know, we operate it very poorly in COVID because of fear. We operate very poorly economically because of the idea of scarcity. And it doesn't mean we should go out and just start using anything we want to use and be greedy with things. What it means is we need to learn to take care of ourselves. Because if we can grow a little bit for ourselves, we have the opportunity to do that, use people that can grow. That's where we change things. You know?
And working with the population I have now, I think if there's one thing that I've worked on more than anything, and that is reconnecting patients with their farming community. And we've established, I mean, we've got, I think I got more of my kids doing drinking raw milk from local farmers, meeting the farmers. They're going to you pick at farms if they can't grow themselves.
And this is the only contribution, I think, as far as I can go in medicine, I can do as I can with supplements and help them get out of things. And, um, but if I can reconnect them to real food and do that much, then I think we're, we're, we're heading the right direction. I was talking to my cousin, the one from States.
And he was like, Oh, wow, your mom's made ghee herself clarified butter. I went, yeah, she got the butter. She slowly heated it up, skimmed off the top and left the solace at the bottom. And then she put the rest in the jar and that's game. He went, Oh, wow, mom used to do that years ago. We just use vegetable on that. I need to ditch that stuff. That stuff called canola. I need to ditch it. And I started showing him, look, find any product
crisps, biscuits, white bread, cereals, whatever, cookies. They've all got mayonnaise, rapeseed or canola oil, fructose corn syrup, wheat, fortified wheat. I said it's fortified because the stuff is so garbage that unless they're fortified, people get sick. That's how bad this stuff is. When in nature, you need to fortify anything. When you need to fortify an apple or beef,
You don't. But the funny thing is these corporations and big food have managed to take like essentially three ingredients, you know, like wheat.
And then take sugars and take canola oil and they can conjure up all these different things from bread to biscuits, cookies, you know, whatever. And it's actually quite ingenious. It's ingenious. Alchemy with just three ingredients. They can produce all these very different looking substances. But what they all have in common is they're actually poisons.
They're so sick. They make you sick. And I think you're right. Food is medicine. Just get back to basics and eat decent, nutritious wholesome food. You know, it really makes me sad at hearing about the, the canola fields, you know, and confirming the abundance.
You know, it's all engineered me. It's all perverse incentives, money, greed. And, you know, those fields should be filled with natural wholesome stuff or, you know, hairs of roaming bison and cat or whatever, you know, decent stuff that's going to feed us not this garbage.
Anyway, you've also been on a spiritual awakening. Do you want to touch upon that as well? Do you want to talk about that and what effect that's had in your life? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think that that's the most profound. It delivered me from Alaska to Texas.
So, you know, when I quit that job and I started working for this integrated clinic, I had an interesting encounter. And the one thing I said, this is kind of my hubris getting in the way in my pride, getting in the way of what, you know, obviously the Lord has in store for you. And that was, I told them, I don't see kids.
You know, I'm coming from the service. I don't do kids. I'd add, you know, I'm not familiar with pediatrics. Give me the adults. I take care of the adults. And that's, that's my mindset when I went to this new job. Well, I did. I did a lot of integrated medicine for adults and then see kids and sometimes they get on my schedule and I have to move off and all that. And then, um, there was a day where somebody scheduled and the other providers weren't there. So I had a, I had a kid on my schedule.
And so at first I was kind of angry, like, why did they put a kid? I don't, you know, I'm, I just do adults. So I go into the room and not knowing what to prepare. The chief complaint, something, the effect of hyperactivity, your typical, one of your typical behavioral problems. And I go in the room and the first thing I observe is mom sitting there, she just looks flustered. She's got three kids running around and like banshee's just jumping off the walls, ripping paper, just having a grand old time.
So I find the one that was there for me and I look at him. I said, you sit right there in that chair for me, please. He stopped, looked at me and I said, no, no, go sit. So he goes and he sits down, not quite understanding what to take. And the other two grab a seat next to mom and mom and I start talking. So he reaches out and he grabs my shirt. And I look at him and I said, did I ask you to touch me?
And he pulls his arm back and he puts it back in his lap. And he sits there now. I look back at mom and I said, you know, and I look back at the saying and it was probably very cursed with time and obviously it carries meaning with me now because it took me on the path I'm on. And I said, discipline works and let's talk about sugar. And we got into a discussion of diet.
I spent an hour with her that day, and we talked about food, we talked about behavior, just what needs to go in, what you and dad can do to help manage this. When we were done, she had tears streaming down her face. And she said, you know, I've seen a lot of doctors, I've seen a lot of psychologists, and nobody ever has ever talked to me, ever. And nobody's even mentioned anything that you just talked about.
And it was that humbling moment. I said, okay, you know, maybe I should move my pride and my hubris and just be open to what what I'm supposed to do. So when we started talking about.
moving our family to Texas, you know, where we have that discussion about getting everybody down there. I didn't have a job. I didn't know what to do. So I went out on Indeed, like anybody else I typed in, integrated, functional, anything. I do not want to go back. I'm not going back any hospital. I'm never working corporate medicine again. That's done. You know, I'd rather homestead or I will do something that I will that I like to do. And a bunch of about only about four or five jobs popped up in Texas. And these are made around major cities.
And one of them stood out and said, it was a pediatric clinic. And I said, well, that's interesting. That pulled up for an integrated search engine. So that was uncommon. So I went to the website and I saw what this doc, I call all calling Doc Randy, amazing. And what this doctor's doing. And it just hit my soul. It's like, wait, there's something. What's his name? He's doing so. What's his name? Dr. Randy. Randy. Where's he based?
He's in Texas, Dallas. Oh, after we're done on the link, I'll link you, I'll put a link for you to see. Okay. Is it Randy Sandovich? Is it Randy Sandovich? No. No. Rosenblatt?
I'll tell you right now. So, at any rate, I saw this job and I thought, okay, I'll put this on the back burner. I'll go ahead and put my resume. And I went through and I changed my CV. Rather, I cleaned out all the jargon of, you know, delivering fast-paced healthcare in a fast-paced setting, all that garbage.
I got rid of it all. And I said, basically, I don't know shit. I want to learn a lot more shit. And I'm telling you, I'm wide open the whole world of medicine at this point, because everything I thought I knew, I don't. And that's where I just fashioned my CV. It was wide open, man. I basically opened myself up and said, let's go.
And I put it out there. I sent it to five, five different clinics and I got hit on four back saying, let's do an interview. So we did video because I'm going to last at the time. And the first one I do the interview with is, is, is the pediatric clinic. And I didn't need the doc at the time. I didn't even know who he was. I just, this is one of the interviewers. And we went on and we talked for about an hour and she said, you know, Dr. Randy is going to like you. I'm going to send him over your video and he'll be in touch.
So, you know, my wife at the time this is coming, we're in fall, so we're getting close to winter. And her thought processes, let's just let this play out for a while and then we can go next song, right? Make it an easy move, because moving out of the winter of Alaska ain't easy. So, I told my wife, I said, hey, I think that I might actually get a job offer.
And I could see the panic in her face. Now she's worried. And I said, well, we're going to have to get serious about this if something happens. And so I interviewed the three other places. They all work out really well. And sure enough, it's a Saturday night, OK?
And my wife can't sleep. She's tossing and turning. Because next day, I was going to get a call back from the pediatric clinic. And she's tossing and turning. She can't sleep all night long. Turns on the lambs, starts reading, turns off the lambs. I get up and I've been fearied and I'm trying to sleep. I said, what is your problem? What is wrong? And she said, Nick, I don't know. I mean, I'm nervous. We're about to move our family all the way to Alaska. And look, I said, look, babe, I don't even have an offer. There's nothing on the table.
We have we're in complete control. If this makes you that nervous, then we won't go yet. I'll push it till when you're comfortable, you know, because we, you know, things get moving fast and oftentimes it can, but it gets a man. Now this is coming from a military wife who's done a lot of moves with me over the years. So she understands when it's time to go. Let's go. Um, so that next morning, um, unknowns to me, my wife, you know, she spent a set up all night reading the Bible. Now my wife is very spiritual. She's been saved at this point.
She's one of the most spiritual beings. I know amazing woman My journey was just a little bit different a little bit later to the game, but I did you know I definitely had spiritual opportunity just didn't I didn't
know what direction to go. So at any rate, the next day I get a text, a beautiful text from this doc. And he says, I'd like to offer you the position to come down and work with us in this clinic providing refuge. And if I ever read it to you, what he wrote, it's beautiful. I mean, absolutely beautiful. There was just an immediate connection I had because somebody would think about what they put into that text. It's pretty amazing.
So I read the text to my wife and, you know, she's getting tears her eyes because she knows, oh, goodness, it's good. This looks real. It's like we're going to do this. And I said, well, you should have had the text ready. You should have had the text ready to read out to me. Oh, well, I, yeah, I'll share. I will share with you. I promise you that. Um, okay. Anyway, um, so my wife says, will you please call him and see about going there first just before he moved the entire family? So we know we're moving to an area we would be okay with.
So I said, okay, I'll do that. So I called him. We ended up talking for a long time now morning. This is Sunday morning. So we go to church, you know, families get ready for church. And I'm talking to him before we're getting ready to go. And I asked, you know, we just started getting into all these things, just do, how's he doing down there? What am I looking at? You know, patient load, all the typical stuff. And then I asked him, I said, how are you being, how are you able to operate in the fashion that you are?
without the medical board or anybody else coming after you. I mean, how are you able to do what you do? Because you're doing great things, but how are you gonna operate? And he said to me, he said, well, I have to be a shrewd of snakes and as innocent as doves. And I thought, okay, I've never heard that saying before. Is it a shrewd as a fox? Or, you know, that's thought that in my mind. It just seemed a shrewd as a snake and it seemed odd to me.
So I didn't know where that reference came from. So I thought, okay, you know, we've gone on with our conversation, talked about, thanks, got off the phone and he had an offer there and he said, we'd like to have you as soon as I can have you. So I go to church that morning with my wife and we're sitting there in the queue and it's before anything starts. And she turns me and says, you know what I was reading last night Nick? And I said, no, I don't. She said, I read Matthew. I said, okay. So what about Matthew? She said, I came across a passage.
that had me thinking a lot about things. And she opens up Matthew and she goes to 10, 16. And that was the, that's where Matthew said, or Jesus told Matthew, therefore I'm sending you out a sheep among wolves. You will be a shrewd of snakes and as innocent as doves. She read that. Oh, wow. Yeah, I've got this. You give me this. You got this much.
And I said, right there, brother, right there was my saving. I felt Holy Spirit overwhelmed me. It is, it's barely profound. And I said, wow, how did that happen? You read the exact verse that he quotes me the day that we talk. And it's the one quote he gave me that stood out like, where did this come from? I never, my Bible reading was very limited prior to this.
But anyway, that was my saving. Wow. And I did that moment. And that was on 10, nine. So the reference, the verses 10, 16, Matthew 10, 16, that was on 10, nine October night, my saving in 2022. And I look back at that whole passage. And it's about setting out the 12 disciples. You know, you're going out amongst sheep, amongst wolves. And I said, babe, I got to go. This is, this is it. This is my next, my next column.
And, excuse me, brother. But I gotta tell you, since this, since taking this job and working with kids, it's been the most profound experience in my life. I have learned so much from them. I have taken this entirely different path into learning everything I possibly can about nothing I know. I mean, about things I don't know. I mean, truly understanding nutrition, what heals children.
Um, understanding, really understanding vaccine so I can have an honest discussion with a family and really talk about it. And, um, you know, I, I took off that, that, that winter I drove out. My family had to come later. I drove out of Alaska in the middle of winter and drove the Alcan down to down to Texas and, and this, uh, for this opportunity. And, um, I've been doing this now for over a year and a half.
And I have never had such profound experience in medicine. And I've never seen so many, like you said earlier, so many vaccine and damaged children, damaged from not just vaccines, but we talk about, you know, medicines, you know, during pregnancies and vitamins, certain vitamins and synthetics. And, you know, when I look at them, you know, I look at a child and I'm trying to figure out,
What is going on? Because they can't tell you. Many of them can't speak to you and say, hey, here's what's happening with me. And you're trying to figure out the route because mom is there for a reason. She's been around. Most of our patients that come to our clinic are not most. Many of them are very complex. And they've been around in different specialties and nobody's able to crack the code. And they come to us and you're looking at an injured child.
Some of those conversations are hard to have, and I wish I knew what that secret was, but I think the most profound changes I've seen in children are when we get them eating correctly, eating correctly, and then mom eating correctly and buying in. And when I see that, that's the most profound changes I've seen so far. Obviously, there are certain treatment mode out or treatments we do with kids that you have to elevate to supplements and potentially anything else,
Um, yeah, that, that, that was my, uh, Can I, can I pick your brains on that? That is really powerful. I had the kids, you know, I had massive goosebumps all over. Um, and I just, I believe you and, you know, I think it's incredible. And that is definitely your calling mate. Can I ask you something? When you say you sort out there eating in a nutshell, what does that actually mean?
So what I mean is most kids are eating processed. You know, families, moms, you know, one might be excuse to get for most parents is he won't eat anything at all. So I just feed him chicken nuts. And, you know, that, that is a challenge. And you get, we can't be there because you're not nourishing them. You're just making them sicker.
And I think, you know, once we talk about, I definitely bring in a lot of supplements. I've leaned heavily on like liver, because at least it's so nutrient dense and you're getting much needed minerals that you're not getting anywhere else. Hard to have a kid sit down and eat mustard greens. It really is.
working at it early with families and getting them early, early in our discussions about development or introduction of foods, nourishing foods early. I do a lot of broth and I teach a lot of fermentation classes. I do fermenting, I ferment cabbage, I do pickling. So I do a lot of classes with patients and teach them how to make their own probiotics through fermentation, whether it's kafir, kavos,
sauerkraut, kombucha. So really, what I'm trying to drive to families is get involved with what you feed your child. Don't just default to when somebody else is providing or you look at the company and say, oh, look at this company's really good. They're doing great things. So we bind to this company. No, no, no, bind to you.
find a farm that's doing it right, buy from them, or grow, start growing what you can, harvest, spend money on stuff that you can ferment and pickle and have long lasting for nourishment, for snacks. So changing, trying to reprogram how we approach food is my, I think that's ultimately where I really, really try to work with my patients.
Getting them raw milk, raw milk is wonderful. If they can get raw goat's milk even better, we have a few suppliers in Texas. In Texas, it's got a lot of raw milk suppliers, but raw milk has got a lot of nourishing value. Obviously, if you don't have casey analogies or anything on those lines, but nourishing food, we've got so complicated with food today. You know, it's, I think remove the complexity, eat for the season and eat what's real.
And then remove all the rest of it and then let everybody argue semantics about meat based only and vegan based and then, guys, stop. Just eat real food. That's ultimately comes down to we can't even accomplish that. If you can go to the grocery, you know, there was a time where I'd say go to the outer section of a grocery store and that's where you get your food. Now I'm telling people don't go to a grocery store if you want help.
You're not going to get it there. You're going to have to either grow it or find a farmer that's doing it right. That's where we're at. We're at a point now where we really need to dive in and look at and involve ourselves in our food.
I mean, if you, if you can, if you have at least the means and time to grow a little bit, it goes a long way, at least do some herbs, start there. You know, and then maybe buy bulk cabbage from a farmer and make some sauerkraut, leave that in the fridge. I leave my sauerkraut for a year, at least. I got crowd at my fridge, still sitting from nine months ago when I fermented, originally fermented it. And we just open up and eat and put it back in the fridge. So you got a great model on refrigeration.
I need to learn how to make pickle my food and ferment it. I don't know. The next thing I need to do. Do you recommend any books or any websites where you can learn this stuff?
Yeah, I mean, my favorite book written about ferment is called the Art of Fermentation, phenomenal book. It's not a how-to, but it goes into nuance about fermentation, cultural fermentation. It's so beautiful. It's so well. And it's just so well written and beautifully written. That's my favorite.
And then, you know, you can look at any fermenting vegetables. It's quite simple. You know, take cabbage and good good salt. And my favorite salt I use is I like Redmond. I like the most mineral. Get a mineralized sea salt. No, no, no iodized garbage. It's simple. Salt and time. Get yourself a good German crock. Buddy, it's over. You'll be doing it. You'll get your kids involved in it. They're going to love being in there doing this with you. It's a fun process.
But that is a beautiful book. Yeah. Art of fermentation is one of my favorites. And that took me down the whole fermenting route. I do, I do now milk kefir. I do kavos. I do kombucha. I do crowding. I do a lot of pickling. But it's just, it's, it simplifies things. If you can do that, you can preserve your food. You're eating real food and you know where you're getting it from. And the great thing about fermenting also is if you, if you can't go to a farmer and get it,
You know, when you ferment it, you're denaturing a lot of that garbage, toxic crap that's in there. So that's taking care of a lot of that for you, you know, those bacteria, your friends. And you're also enhancing the vitamin supplementation of it and you're predigesting it. So when you consume it, it's already prebroken down. So it's easy to digest.
So hopefully you don't have a big histamine problem. That's usually one of my bigger problems with patients when the kids have high histamine. I can't get them on the ferments. I have to do cultures. I could do some cultures with them, but I can't do the ferments. They just get, they break out too much.
But I will link you to some videos on, I got my own video on our, I've done for our work. I do a sauerkraut class. I can get it, I can link you to that as well. But yeah, that would, that would be really helpful if you send me all these links and then what I'll do is I'll put them in the show notes and people can look at them and I'll look at them. And this is, this is one of the things I need to do. I need to start doing this. I've been looking into this, by the way.
You know, jarring food, pickling, fermenting. I needed to get into it. I mean, right now, you know, I buy kimchi, you know, it's fermented food. It's made by local, you know, just person in our community. I buy my food, most of it from a local food group. So, you know, there's people in that group who make things, make chocolate, make kimchi, whatever. So I like to get it from them.
Love. I'd like to learn myself. I'd like to learn myself. Okay. Well, another thing I want to ask you, what are your like top three health tips to parents, you know, with kids? So you've talked about food. Is there anything else you would recommend, you know, other than diet and food? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so let's, let's say we have a new parent, pregnant mom comes in says, Hey, about to have a new baby. What are the three? Number one, breastfeed, by all means, do everything you can to breastfeed your child.
You know, they're certain. I know they're crazy circumstances, but that that's gonna be number number one. And then number two is mom, take care of your health. You have to take care of you. Children see through their parents, if you don't do the things that you're trying to have them do, they're not gonna do it.
So if you're not eating the same things, you're not practicing the same techniques, and their child witnesses you every day, do the exact opposite, then I'm let it improve for that with my oldest. I had bad habits. When the army that I thought it was fine, no, no, they observe, they observe and it will be passed on. So pick up those habits for you, that would be foremost. And then, I'll tell you, if it comes down to supplements, I mean, as far as
Well, let me go back to the pregnant mom breastfeed at all possible costs of weight daycare centers. If you can, we create a society where we have to have two working adults, which is sad. It's just the way it is today. Um, I know I'm not speaking. Anybody's independence, by all means, if you want to feel like you go to work, go to work, the reality is children are, they dictate there's a requirement to raise a child and daycare centers don't do a good job doing that. Just a fact. And on top of it, if I remove daycare, daycare centers from the equation,
You know, I would say, you know, vaccines, daycare centers, and lack of breastfeeding, I don't have sick children. You know, overall, very healthy children. Daycare centers are just a, it's just a collection site. It's just what it is. Some do pretty well with it, but most do not. They just get sick all the time. But breastfeeding is huge. And because breastfeeding is huge, mom's diet is huge. So when mom's putting in her body to include supplements, pharmaceuticals, those type of things, that's very, very important.
So pay attention to those things that you're putting inside your body because those will go. And again, we can go into studies and what gets across the breast milk and all these other things. But the reality is it's there. It's there. You put it in your body. It's going to be metabolized and broken down. Who knows and what construct it's going through and what it's doing. I don't know. But it's going there. It's coming from mom. And we know that's a detox pathway. So if you're detoxifying something, your body, if your liver is dumping something, it's going to go through the breast milk too.
So that's another big one. And then I just love finding a good water source. Make sure you've changed the water in your homes in Texas. Our water is very poor. We fluoridate, fluorine in the water. It's bad. So have a clean water source.
You know, listening to one of my favorites, doctors out there that opened my eyes early and this was Dr. Exley. I love him. I think he's a beautiful human being. And I listened to the podcast on him. He's such a beautiful man. And you know, reading his research and really looking into what he's done with water and understanding.
naturally occurring, silicone water, pushing families on that side, that vaccines and their children and potential vaccine injuries, getting them to drink that type of water. I always reference Dr. X. I use him so frequently because he's just done such phenomenal work, really good work. I think clean your environment and then look at your home. What do you have in your home?
What are you cleaning your counters with? What are you cleaning your sinks with? What are you, you know, what are you wiping down the toilets with? All of that matters. So everybody just takes a stepwise approach and cleaning the environment around them and cleaning themselves. Those are my healthy tips for raising healthy children. Children, when they come out, very susceptible to just a lot of, into this environment, right? You come in and they get, yes, sir.
So I was going to say, you know, it comes to cleaning, like kitchen counters and stuff. I just use a flannel and hot water and, you know, clean it. I don't use sprays and chemicals. You know, I was talking to my cousin who grew up in Pakistan.
And he said, you know, I've got the kids now. He's a he's that in New Jersey. He's like, you know, I get the kids out in the yard. Tell them to like just get the hands dirty in the cell. That's what we did when we were kids. We turned out all right. We didn't have allergies and autoimmune conditions. We were out in the dirt and then we come home and eat. We'd have dirty hands and we were fine. And, you know, so I don't believe in these spraying everything and
you know, killing everything. It's just, I don't know if that's what you were saying when it comes to cleaning. Like, don't get me wrong. You know, I clean the toilet and I wipe everything down and I wash my hands with just soap. I use old fashioned like homemade soap. You know, people who've made homemade soap would buy it from them. They don't use these gels and stuff like that. You know, chemicals, just use simple soap and just use hot water and clean everything up. And that's, that's why we tidy up by the way. And I don't think you need more than that.
You know, just in a little anecdote because it speaks to exactly what you're saying is, you know, when I grew up, my mom, my mom's very clean person. And we would spend Saturdays disinfecting and cleaning our house when I was a kid. And I mean disinfecting Lysol in the bathroom. I breathe those chemicals that was part of me growing up.
Everything's washed. My buddy, I was sick all the time. All the time, I was sick. And then I got married to my wonderful wife. She's never sick. And then, you know, her house, her mom would put leftovers in the fridge for weeks on end, smell it, say, whoa, we better eat that one tonight.
I mean, that's how she lived, you know, whatever's whatever, you go to the house, if it's clean, it's been wiped and stuff that moved around. But she's never sick, ever sick. So it took me, you know, later in life realizing the importance of my microbiome and starting to really introduce all these bacteria back in and cleaning my environment,
Like I said, it's a health journey for me as much as it is for anything else to know, you know, what, what has made me stronger today. Because I'm, you know, I'm 40, 48, buddy, and I don't feel, I feel great. Same. Same. Feel great. And I, I wish I had this 20 years ago, because man, I'd be something else, right? I mean, well, it's what it is, but, but yeah, no, it's just, it's,
Don't have stress, buddy. We're going to clean clean again. For the families, just, you know,
Pay attention to your environment, pay attention to what you put inside your body, clean your water and breastfeed. Now if families come in later, we have grown children and they're asking me, we're removing number one processed food, number one. I don't care what else you do. If it's got more than two ingredients on it, get rid of it. It doesn't say potato, it ain't a potato. So get rid of it. So really that would be the first one. Then the seed oils, that's the hardest.
Seed oils are hard because it's at all your fast food. It's at all your restaurants, even your fancy schmancy restaurants. You go out to eat, I always ask, what are they cooking back there with soybean oil? Wonderful. So we get all, I mean, everybody's looking to cut costs. So that cuts out all that. So you get rid of the process and all of that. Then we can get into the glue.
You know, the conventional, I don't, and conventional dairy, excuse me, let me put that my big three. Conventional dairy. I do think there's a big problem conventional dairy. Here's my biggest problem conventional dairy. They take these animals, they feed them inappropriately, and they can get away with it because they heat up, heat off, all the benefit that milk would have provided for somebody. Instead, you're drinking trillions of dead bacteria, dead garbage. That's what we're drinking.
So that to me is a problem because if we force our farmers, I shouldn't say force, that's a terrible word. Excuse me. If we rely on our farmers to provide us nourishing food, they're going to give it to us the right way. And that can mean a problem for many people because you may not have as fast as access or it could be where the shelf life of your product doesn't go as long.
But that's it. So clean, you know, can get rid of the conventional, the processed foods and the, um, and the, uh, seed wells. Those would be my biggest three right there. Sugar, obviously. Nick, but that's it. Nick, Nick, I'm really sorry, but I need to go and do the kids bedtime.
I like to do that. We have a routine. I scratch their backs. I massage their arms and their shoulders and I finish off with a head massage and I kiss them on the forehead and put them to sleep. So I have to do it to all three of them. If I don't do it, they'll be upset. So anyway, it's late here.
It's late here. It's late here. So I need to get on with that. Um, so if you don't mind, can I ask you one last question? If that's okay. Is that all right? Yeah. It's the signature question. Okay. Nick, my friend, my brother from another mother, my twin, my 48 year old twin, although I'm 49 at the end of this month.
on your deathbed in a very long time. You surrounded by your loved ones. What words of wisdom will you pass on to them before you meet your maker and creator? I think if anything where I'm going right now is share love. Share love. We are so full of fear. We are so full of hate, anger, animosity, betrayal, all the negativity. And right now, I think if anything we can do,
is find your purpose and share love as best you can, as best you can, understanding that we're humans and we're going to go through these roller coasters, but ultimate the end. Brother, we got to share love as much as we can, meaningful, meaningful love for each other and everything else. And I hope that, you know, by the time that rolls around, I have done my part and the Holy Spirit is pleased with what I've done. So. Amen.
Man, you're, you're a good soul, a very, very good soul. And I think the listener should know we were scheduled for a support of stories podcast. And, you know, the support stories are going to be like half an hour or 45 minutes. And for whatever reason, it didn't work last time. And I was like, actually, you know what? I think there's a reason why it didn't work. I think forget the support of stories.
Let's just give you your own podcast and just let you go. I'm glad we did. Before I go, I'd like to tell you one synchronicity. I see synchronicities much clearer today, but I had one with you.
And, you know, when I first, you know, came across a podcast that I found you on. And I think you had Larry Pulletsky on there. I loved it. Beautiful, beautiful man. And this is where I connected. I felt connection with you. I said, you know, there's something to him. He's doing something that's meaningful.
So that's when I, I subscribed and wrote your message, um, talk about, you know, and then when we talked about, and you mentioned the subscriber series, something compelled me to reach out and say, okay, I think I, I would like to tell my story because I've never told my story this first time I've ever gone on anything to tell the story. Um, you, you came back with, okay, yeah, let's do, let's do a time. And then the date that we're supposed to do it.
And on my way home from work that day, I talked to you. Remember, we actually had a phone conversation. This is the first time I even loaded a signal in a month long. So we talked, I drove home from work. Now, where I lived at the time, I rented a place and it was by the airport. And every day I drive home, I'd see the American Airlines coming in. And this day, I was driving home and after I talked to you,
British Airways was landing on the strip. I've never, ever seen a British Airways airplane in that airport before, never. And that same day, it was British Airways coming in. But I thought, well, there's, there's a synchronicity. That's interesting. So maybe, you know, we need to make this work.
need to find a way to make this for. So I'm humbled that you had me on like this mother and give me this for them. You're a good man. What you're putting out there is helping so many people, helping me.
You're linking me to some beautiful minds that are on powerful missions. And this is the community, man. This is the brotherhood, the sisterhood. This is where it all begins. And this is 30, 40 years from now. I hope our children look back and say, man, that's the stand. Those are the people that stood up and said, no, we're not doing it. And this is the people that gave the voice. And we're a better place for it. So I pray for that, brother, and I pray for you. And thank you so much for having me. This was amazing.
No, it is amazing. You're amazing. And I've been noticing synchronicities as well, left, right and center, like crazy. You know, something really nice happened to me today, not synchronicity, but something nice. So, you know, I don't go to my local supermarket that often, not now that I have get my food from the local buying group, but there's still stuff that we go and get. So, for example, my daughter has a
Summer party, she wants a summer party and she being a big softie, I was like, what's the summer party? She was like, can I just, can I just call some friends over for a party? So she's got seven friends coming around tomorrow. And she said, daddy, can you make homemade fish and chips? And I make, I do make homemade fish and chips, right? I get, you know, and, and I needed fish. So I'm in the supermarket. I got called.
And on my way out, normally what happens is every second or third trip to the supermarket, I will bump into a former patient of mine. Hey, doc. Hey, my foot's like this. Remember you're preaching to me? Remember you treated me? Today, someone went, excuse me. I went, yes. Doc Mark. I went, yes. Love your podcast. And then we started chatting.
And I was like, oh, wow. And it's the first time that someone's actually stopped me in that supermarket for my new job. It made me happy. It made me happy. That's awesome. Get it out there. Yeah. Well, listen, brother, you're going to keep in touch. We're going to still message each other. Yeah. One now. I had a supporter.
You know, he, um, when I rang him, he was like, he was English. He was like, Oh, blind me. You actually do ring your supporters. I was like, yeah. I'm not just lying about it. Of course I ring my supporters. You know, and, um, and then some of them are like, why'd you ring me? We've done the podcast. I was like, uh, because I, because maybe I just want to say hi.
Because you're my friends and I need to stay connected to real people, honest people, people who don't have egos, people who are authentic, people who keep me grounded and give me faith and humanity. So I thank you for being you, my friend. Thank you, brother. We'll end on that.
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