240: The Ripple Effect

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Hello, welcome back to Simon Walter the final episode of November 2024. Now that is building it up because today Anna we're talking about the ripple effect and I can hear people at home scratching their beard saying the ripple effect what on earth do you want about? Well today we're going to get into how it's not always just numbers on scales. You know we tap into these things like non-scale victories and how

The process of maybe making a change in your life, like losing weight, where that can lead to all the other things, all the other people, our friends, our work, all the knock on effects that that can have. Anna, we are not alone today, I should say. No, we are definitely not. We have got some spectacular inspiration with us, haven't we?

Yes, we are very, very delighted to welcome to the stage, I would say, Matt Flanagan, who is Slimmingwell's Man of the Year 2024. How are you? I'm very good. I'm not sure I should have nodded at being an inspiration. I did it out of habit, but yeah, I am here today to speak to people.

Brilliant. Look, we're delighted to have you. I know only a couple of weeks ago it was a civil war ball. I imagine that kind of pulled together what has been quite a crazy year for you. I mean, first of all, because we weren't there and I imagine lots of people listening were not at the ball. What was it like?

Well, I'd be surprised if not everybody was there because there was 1,700 people. Oh, wow. I said hi for a lot of people. Maybe we were the only ones that weren't there then. That's probably what it was. That's a shame.

So for those who don't know, the slimmer wall ball pulls together loads of consultants, pulls together loads of title winners, even some of the past title winners. There's the handing over of crowns, you get to meet a celebrity host, there's loads of photos, there's so much glitter,

That, I mean, Anna, you warned me when we went the other year how much glitter and sparkle there was, but I actually couldn't believe my eyes. Somebody told me there was going to be a lot of glitter, but I feel like there could be more glitter. Can I use this here? I didn't have any glitter. I wanted glitter. Next year, when I go over to hand over my face, I'm wearing glittery stuff. I'm going to have a bright red sequin tucked on.

It's such a spectacular night though because it's the celebration of all our big title winners, our woman of the years, and now it's like you said, the hand over the crowds. It is so, such an energizing and motivating space, isn't it? And such a special feeling. I can imagine a few matter to be crowned.

Yeah, too fair. I was one of the only people there that didn't seem to be nervous. But I've obviously, with being a young carer previously, done a lot of stuff in front of crowds. So I didn't really have the nerves of that. It was more just not knowing what to say in the moment. I really enjoyed it though. It was nice to be there.

Oh, yeah. So for those who don't know who you are and a bit about your story, you joined a group and that for you is where it it clicked. Where are you at in terms of your weight loss at the moment for people to be up speed? Yeah. So the weight currently, about 15 stone, how about depends on the day? That's a person. That's more than a person's weight loss.

Well, I've lost 16-9. I weigh 15 stone. But, yeah, my heaviest I was 31 something, 31-3. I thought I was at 19.

Wow. What was life like? Depressing. I didn't realise how unhappy it was until I started out to try and do stuff and then I realised I couldn't do anything because everything that I wanted to do either had a weight limit or I didn't fit in harness to go to the, what you call them, amusement parks. I didn't fit in the straps.

So I actually went with my dad and I couldn't get on two rides. And I really wanted to get on them because obviously you're queued for the whole thing. And then you get to there and then you get told you can't go on it. It's really annoying. And that happened. And then I had a couple of other issues with clothes. I couldn't buy clothes. So I was in 6x hours buying online. And when it started coming off the weight, I actually started doing more stuff and feeling more comfortable in myself.

Yeah. And what was your why? What made you think I want to do something about this now?

Mainly because I didn't feel like I had any drive. I didn't have anything I actually wanted to do in life. I didn't feel like I was succeeding. And then a short while into actually losing a bit of weight, I ramped it up because I found out my sister needed a kidney. She had kidney disease. So her kidneys were failing. And I wasn't, but I was just too big. So we went to an appointment. I was told it was too heavy.

They gave me it was about 10 stone to lose and I lost it and then they said right if you lose some more It'll be better for us. We can do more tests So I just kept every time I went back they asked me to lose a bit more and I just kept setting that as my new target something world And that's just how I kept it off

Wow, that's a very powerful why. I mean, what was your sister's reaction to you making these changes, you know, to help her? I think she was relieved, but in the long run, she'd actually expect me to

um need to give it to her because we thought she'd get um so they do a cadaver list which is when people have come in unfortunately whatever it may have caused but they've been pronounced deceased they give their kidneys if they're on the scheme or if they're on the donor organ donor cards but unfortunately they didn't find a suitable match so it's taken three years

And she's the whole time been very supportive of me, obviously. So she went to the ball with me. She was my little wingman. Oh, wow. That's a beautiful effect, isn't it? Yeah. But what have you enjoyed about what you're eating with Slim and World?

Um, I like the variety. You don't feel like you're so, a dietitian originally tried to put me on a diet and it was calorie based, but it was also quite strict. He cut out quite a lot, um, bread, well carbs, a lot of carbs. He'd mainly put it veg and meat and fruit.

and that found really hard but then when i joined some world you don't get restricted you just get uh given sort of guidelines to follow but they're very flexible and uh it just allows you to still experience things like you can have curries you can have soup you can have roasts but it's just catered towards some world so it's not really a diet as much as a lifestyle change

And that's the whole idea, isn't it, of our slim for life plan is to give you that ability for it to roll with your lifestyle at your pace. Because that's the only way it's sustainable, isn't it? Now, you talk about cooking. Is that something that you've found as through your slim mod journey? I've always been good at cooking. My mum was a pastry chef. She was French trained. She was very good. She always told you that. But I really enjoy cooking because she always taught me how to cook.

So obviously she she'd cook with a lot more ingredients to be considered French quality. Whereas I now cook with the ingredients that help me, but with her skills. So she's passed on something to me that allows me to actually cook. So it's nice to win within it. Yeah, I enjoy cooking. What does like the phrase the ripple effect mean for you and the impact I suppose losing weight has had on your life.

So, on mine it's obviously allowed me to do more things, um, allowed me to achieve things that I didn't think of. And then it's also helped my family, some of my dads and I were doing quite a healthy eating. It's taken a while but he has decided that's what's going to happen. I didn't push him on it, I just let him do his thing and they let me do my thing.

My uncle as well, he's doing very good one Mounties and Wales. She's doing really good. Two Mounties actually joined Slimworld. They both doing really well with that. And they joined because they saw my mum posting about me and talking about me. I hope you got the referrals. I didn't. They have to go to the same group. She goes in in Venice. Unfortunately Wales isn't quite on the doorstep for that.

Not father, you're only roaring tonight, yeah. You're still up north. And what about, tell us about the mini, okay? So this, if I've got this right, this was a real passion for you to one day be able to own your own mini, get in it, drive it. It's something you share memories with your grandpa, your grandad or your grandpa, grandad. Tell us more about the mini dream.

So I always wanted a classic mini. I say classic because you say many and people think of the new one now. He's a 1994 SPI to a single point injection. He's a 1.3 litre and he's very cute, but he's in British racing green with his stripes. He's got his pin stripes. I mean, why would you go any other kind of... I know. He's absolutely glorious. He's a bit of an ill thing at the minute, but he is. I took him in today to have some work done.

But I used to go to shows my grandad because we like car shows and we're like anything classic really. And we always used to try, can I sit in one? Because I love the Italian job with Michael Kane, the great film. And I actually burnt out the VHS I had of that. It stopped working.

My grandma gave it to me, so I always wanted one, and they knew I always wanted one. And I kept trying, kept trying at these events, and I could never get into one. And then in May of, I believe, 20, what year were we in? 20, 22, 3, I think it happened.

So last year, I managed to actually sit in one that her mum was very nice to let me, and it happened to be British racing green, a bit newer than Martin, and I fitted really well on my ground I took photo, and then the weekend after I went from the dad and port one in Wales. Don't buy a car on a rainy day, by the way. Not a classic car anyway.

So for you, a kind of a vision thing for you was to be able to get in, open the door and sit in the driving seat of a mini. It sounds so simple, doesn't it? Yeah. It was simple, but it was a long journey because...

One, they're expensive, so I had to save up. And two, you don't really quite know how it's going to work until you get in one. So you could look at a car and go, oh yeah, I can fit in that lotus or whatever that's really low to the ground, but they try and get in it in too big. And I'm decently broad anyway, so I was like, am I going to be too big for this car? But no, I fitted really comfortably and I was really happy, so I had to do it.

You see, I think it's so interesting, Anna, because we often hear people all find, you know, a photo or they'll hang up a dress so that every day they see that dress hanging up or they'll have like a physical thing that they're, you know, they're using as a reminder of their why. Do you know what? Of all the years I've been a member of a consultant, I've never had anybody say a mini.

this is the first on me, it's so incredible to have such a big motivation and then for that to come for circle I think is such an incredible achievement you know I've had it where I've desperately wanted to get into an outfit and that feels momentous but I can imagine getting my grandma used to her classic mini and they are not built for the faint-hearted you felt so proud of yourself

I think too fair it wasn't just the fact that I felt proud. I felt like it actually for once achieved something rather than just keep on hitting brick walls because a lot of the time especially when you're slimming even though you can just lose a pound or you can stay the same and you sort of beat yourself up a bit because you think you've not done good enough and I think when I got that I realised

I've done it. I should be a bit nicer to myself. And I still lost some weight after getting it, but I actually lost like three stone after getting it. And I fit perfectly in it and I love it. But it's definitely a bit too broad after the window me arm goes out.

But he got a fitting name. He's called victory. My granddad's called Victor. So it's a bit of his name. And then also victory because at the same time I started a new job. I lost enough weight and actually got accepted for the scheme with Emma in the same sort of period of time. So it was four things that I really wanted to do and sort of collided together. So I was like, there you go. That's my little story. That is that is the ripple effect right there, isn't it? Yeah.

And not only on your life, but on so many other people's lives, like you've inspired so many other people. And I think in a weight loss journey, you don't realize how the ripple effect can be so simple in your group. I remember Claire saying to me, when you were in my group, actually seeing people further ahead than me or someone who's been in that challenge or someone who's maybe struggling, really helped you on your journey. And that's the ripple effect, isn't it? Seeing other people who've experienced or haven't yet.

I don't think we give enough attention or credit sometimes to that on the journey. We're waiting for the end and it's enjoying what you can do and achieve along the way. And I think it's spectacular you've achieved that. Setting yourself as well, setting yourself small goals. I think people don't do that enough. They set themselves right, I need to be at this target for this date. But setting yourself interim goals is really helpful. So I didn't originally ever say I wanted to be 15 stone.

I think I wanted to get down to 23. I got down to 23. Because obviously I was a big, big person when I joined somewhere. And then I got down to 23. And then I got down to 25 or something like that. I got down to 23. I was really happy because it was a round number. And I was like, I can do this. I've lost two. I can lose three. So I set 20. And then I kept setting small like two stone or three stone goals.

And then when I got down to about 18, I thought, right, I want a bit of 15 and I set it at 14 something. And I got down there and I stayed down there relatively within the same bracket, but it's quite a while now. I think it's a year at least. But it's, it's been attainable and it's been long lasting. I know a year is not mega long, but in terms of keeping weight off a year is quite a while.

Yes, absolutely. I think there are many people who perhaps have been to target and they weren't, you know, something just didn't click or didn't feel right. And they came straight back out of target. There's a lot of people who may be doing that dance or perhaps people listen to this who are, you know, lapsed members thinking whether they should rejoin or not. There's many of us who've been in that situation. But what is it now that keeps you here?

Well, the operation for my sister, we got accepted last two weeks ago maybe. The operation was either going to be in December or January. I think it's probably going to be January now looking like we've got a meeting coming up to discuss it all. But the healthier I am, the better the person receives my kidney is going to receive. The healthier obviously my body is, the healthier the kidney is.

and therefore the longer it'll last them and although it's not directly going to my sister and then she's getting somebody else's I feel like if somebody's getting mine and she's getting somebody else's that mine should be if not the best it can be because it's only fair because I think everyone deserves to have the best of whatever they can they get so if I stay healthy then they'll be healthy yeah now that is that is a big knock on effect isn't it

what you're putting in your body right now is going to have such a profound impact on someone else. You strike me through the journey though. We've not heard that you've got any pressure on yourself or anything like that. And I think there'll be a lot of people who perhaps listening who maybe put pressure on themselves and

not enjoyed that journey so much. Is there any hints or tips you've got on how not to make this like a pressure cooker? I have put pressure on myself, but I've put enough on that I know I can cope with it. I've never overburdened myself with pressure. I've gone right. This is a goal that's attainable. Hit this goal will sort out another goal, but I've never gone right.

Hit this straight away, that's what I'm saying. The small steps of what you can get to do the long-term stuff, whereas if you go, right, I need to lose 10 stone when you join. Most people don't need to lose that anyway, but let's say somebody joins and wants to lose four. Don't set yourself four. Set yourself one. See how it goes. And then you can do it in stages rather than going, right, I've joined. I need to lose four by this date. Don't do that to yourself. Just say, we'll see how it goes. I'll try my best for the first month.

See how that goes. And then you can build yourself a plan that works for you because some will can always be used to work for yourself. Because everyone's different. The group's great and the consultants are perfect. But at the end of the day, you need to look at yourself and go, what's going to work for me that works with the plan? And that allows you to not put too much pressure on yourself. Because if you pile the pressure on, you just get a crumble. It's like a bridge without support. You need to build the support so you can make it to the other side. That's what you need to do.

It's really key, isn't it? I remember when I had all my weight to lose, I actually sent my end goal and then I broke it down in half a stone at a time. Because for me, I was terrified of the big number, but I knew I wanted to get there, but I had to put those kind of the domino effect in. That's ideal because you're not really, you're putting a target in mine, but you're not putting all the pressure on top of that end number. You're spreading it out over a length, which is a lot better. Much cheaper.

Do you, I mean, one thing that really strikes me is I wish when I had been your age that I had got to grips with better lifestyle choices. And I'm sure that you must hear this within your group, some of the older members saying, you know, you've given yourself a gift of knowledge really at such a young age. Do you do you recognize that and even just understand the changes of how you feel from where you are to date from when you were 19?

Well, I'm fully aware that I'm not perfect, so when someone say that I do sort of go, well, I do this wrong as well. But realistically, I think I know how much I've done, and I know what I've given myself, but I've also, I now know what not to do, which is better than not knowing what to do at all.

So in terms of I know where I've come from, I know where I'm going, I'm not there yet but I know now that I've got the information I need to help me get those few final steps. So I'm almost up the mountain but when I'm at the top I'll be able to relax and at the minute

I know I'm not quite relaxed and I don't want to. But when I say relax I don't mean like oh just stop doing everything. I mean you found something that works for you without you feeling stressed all the time and taking the pressure off because if you make yourself stressed then the weight is just going to stay on. You need to find something that works for you and allows you to stay at a level playing field.

Becomes a bit. You're an enjoyable thing. It's really important, isn't it? You probably don't even notice yourself. It's fitting in with your lifestyle. And I think that's why you've been so successful because you haven't tried to fall something that's really hard.

I'm really regimented. You sound like you've had the fun while you've been doing it, which is quite cool. Yeah. It's finding things you enjoy, because if you don't enjoy something, you're not going to do it. If you don't enjoy your job, you're going to hate going to it. But if you don't enjoy going to your swim world, you're not going to go to it either, because you're not forced to go. You need to find a reason you want to go. For me, it was

finding people in the group that I liked and making friends with them rather than sitting there on my own and now I've got a few it's only small only about six people I really really get on with in my group and then I'm friendly with everyone else but it's being willing to listen to other people's input and not just being no it's not working for me therefore it's not going to work for anyone

It's what don't work for them. Can you use it to work for yourself? Or can you find something that you can give to other people that might inspire them to want to help you as well?

Yes, funny, the conversations you have in groups, sometimes there are people in group who I think know me better than some of my good friends that I've known for years. They're kind of hearing things that I'm sharing that is going on in my head, that I'm probably not sharing with other people. And it's like, God, I didn't even know you three months ago. And I'm telling you this will have stayed in my head. But it can be that, I don't know, relief really to know that there's other people who just get it.

Too fair, in a moment of annoyance, I've probably said stuff that I've never said to friends. Because I just got to get off the chest. But they understand that because they're like-minded people and they can relate to it. Whereas if you say that to say a friend that you go to the pub with or you go to a quiz with or whatever, then they might not understand. So they might say, oh, stop whinging. But nobody with someone else ever going to tell you, stop whinging. They're going to go, I get that. That's happened to me before. I tried this when it happened.

And it gives you an insight to you're not alone. Don't don't think you're alone rely on the other people to help you because then you can help yourself.

Yeah. So we've got, you know, the support is there for you. You love being going to a group. You like how there's flexibility in making the plan work with your lifestyle as well. What else have I missed here? I mean, I feel like there's so many different aspects that you're getting. I'll taste the sessions as well. You do them sometimes. A lot of consultants do taste sessions.

What have you brought, though? That's what I want to do. I always get burdened bringing the same thing because everyone likes them. So there's a ginger on the app, which is really helpful, and you'll get that if you join some of the world. That's got recipes. It's got podcasts, obviously. It's got videos for making stuff.

And you can never not find something you want on there. It's also got a scanner for if you're walking around the shop like a lunatic scanning everything and going, I can have this. I can have this. I can have some of this. That's great. So it's got all that. And then obviously that I can say in the taste I take on the gingerbread biscuit recipe. I think I just type in gingerbread and it comes up. It's got some star shapes and a gingerbread.

I don't remember the actual title of it, but I make that and actually take some of the stuff out and it actually becomes slightly healthier and they're one sin for a biscuit about this side by about that thick. So probably the size of, I don't know how to do this, I'll top my head, a half a credit card or half a debit card.

A bit thicker and they're really nice they're crunchy but if you change the recipe slightly make them soft so it's like you're eating gingerbread and I really like that with fruit on top or if I crush it up and put it in a yogurt. So I make them and I always get told I have to make them so I take them to the taster. But do you put faces on them?

Well, actually, I got a classic mini cookie cutter, which I made out of last time. They would have been about two sins. I had to send them up. But I sometimes just make star shapes. I make them really, really easy to cook.

OK, it's good to know where you stand, the commitment to your taste ascessions. It takes you about an hour. If they want them, they're going to have to have them as they get them. I'm just thinking the icing would have crossed more sins, so don't draw on them. Have more gingerbread than actual icing because that tastes much better.

Yeah, yeah. At my last taster session a couple of weeks ago, there was a new award in group called Slim & World Icon. Yeah. And for the nominations for that, we decided to do a taster as well. And one of my friends cooked sweet potato falafels. Wow.

and it was they were so good and I've just had them for my tea tonight so it's great isn't it when you can kind of inspire other people and then you have that sharing of recipes and I think that also just keeps things fun as well because I guess if you think about the big health reason of what was motivating to lose weight with your sister and the kidney scheme

That's a very big, that is quite a lot of pressure, isn't it? But the small things that keep you going like sharing some gingerbreads and enjoying sweet potato flaffles or whatever it is, you know, getting, watching the money going up in your savings, getting closer towards that mini. These are the things that we, myself and Anna have always talked about.

people often think, well, I'll be happy when I've reached target. And we're always like, have fun and enjoy life now. Yeah. Too short. Too fair. There's another man that makes, I can't remember his name, unfortunately. But he makes an amazing, never remember his name, I will say it later, but he makes an amazing land biryani, which is on the app.

And that's incredible. It's actually like being an Indian. And he brings that. And I said, if he does not bring me a Tupperware, I will be having an argument. I want a Tupperware for him. You can do a trade-off. That's how this says that. He's a lot like my biscuits, annoyingly. I just want some very honey. But yeah, one of the ladies often gets a Tupperware full of my biscuits because she likes not much.

So you've been to the ball, you're getting closer to you finding that kind of happy place where you are comfortable with the number on the scales and the weight that you are. You're getting ready for the operation to donate your kidney to help your sister.

What else is the next year going to bring for you? Are there other goals that you're working towards or is it kind of a see how your health is after the operation? Well, obviously, I don't know how long the operational takes to recover. I've been told eight months I won't be able to do any lifting, which is a shame because I'm enjoying doing lifting weights at a minute and cardio. So I'll be out of that for a bit. But then my goal really is to wait after the operation and use Sunworld to keep my weight right while I'm recovering.

And then afterwards, it is hard to count with doing weights, running, cycling, because I enjoy cycling. And just sort of fill my time in with that while I count. And then I actually be made redundant at the minute. So I'm looking for jobs. So while I'm recovering, I'm actually going to try and teach myself with the help of somebody who's in. So there's a man called Chris, who goes to some world with me. And he was, I was the only man for a while in mine.

And then he joined and became really good friends with him. And his wife, she does the way in Heather. She's always done the way in. So I stand in for her sometimes. And I also stand in for the pay lady sometimes. She's my current boss, Deb. And then, so it's all, my little corner is quite nice. So Chris is helping me learn programming and telecommunication programming. So I can do that on a laptop while I'm recovering. So I'm going to buy myself a laptop with my redundancy and then train myself for that.

And then I am also applying for jobs, but it's just that's my long term goal is to actually get a career because I don't really have a career at the minute. So that's sort of I just want to get fit to stay where I am and then get athletic and then have a career by the time recovered.

Yeah. It might be a bit too much, but we'll see how it goes. Yeah, yeah. And Christmas. What does Christmas look like? How are you thinking about it differently with your Slim and World hat on this year? Well, I hate my parents. It's my birthdays, like the 21st of December. So I have Christmas celebration, birthday celebration, then Boxing Day, then New Year's,

And it's all just in the span of like two weeks. So to be fair, my swimming world has never been great near Christmas, but I normally try a name for a maintain or less than three pounds on. I just I don't try and limit my fun because I want to not have fun. But I just try and keep it to the specific days on birthdays and birthday. That's one day.

She's given yourself that flexibility, picked your strategy and the fact that you've even thought about it because I think where a lot of us slip up is not really put in the pond in place or thinking ahead. Yeah, you stumble when you get to it and you suddenly go to panic, haven't you?

But it's like picks and blankets, I'll have them, but I have them with the fatless bacon. Or sometimes they're not as nice, but the turkey bacon. They're not as fun. So yeah, I'd rather do the fatless bacon, the back bacon wrapped around it rather than rashes, because obviously that's better for you. And I get stuff like the low sin or really low fat sausages. And so it's sort of changes like that.

By when I get yours to put in, my mum normally makes them, but obviously it's oil. So I will treat myself to one of them, or I'll get an Aunt Betty's one I've scanned. So it's little changes that means I can still sit down and enjoy my meal with everyone. But I'm not there going, oh yeah, why not, just have all this. I'm trying to adapt it, but I'm not trying to restrict myself entirely for the day.

That's a really important point. You've created your own plan, haven't you? That's why I never feel like on plan off plan because it's your plan and you've tailed it within the food optimizing plan and allowing yourself that flexibility at certain times is really key for longevity, I think, but it's that balance that you've talked about striking that. Yeah, that is called swimming world, but it's got to fit into my world.

But what you're really demonstrating, I think to a lot of people is, number one, you said it's not a diet, it's a lifestyle. And you're showing that you're thinking ahead about choices that you can make. You're looking at what's in your control. And maybe I'm not so bothered about this, but I do want to factor this in. So I'm going to put a plan in around that.

And I think sometimes some of us are not willing to look a little bit closer in advance to see what choices could I take. And those little changes that we make add up to bigger changes. And ultimately those little changes are what create the ripple effect in the first place, which is how you get to the point where you've lost. What is it in total 16 stone in the end nine or something stupid? More than a way now.

But in reality, if you can break down the week into three days, you have your Monday to Wednesday and then you spend your Wednesday prepping for the Thursday to Friday and then you have your Saturday and Sunday, then you can break it down. It becomes more manageable. If you're on a Sunday, you're like, right, I'm going to cook meals for Monday, three to Friday, have them all in the fridge.

You can have a ball in sunday cuz you spend all cooking for the week. And you need to make it is that you also I can't do that. I don't mind that people can do that. That's why I personally can't do that. So I plan my I plan mine in three seconds. We don't know each dose and maybe that's what's happened to us. Maybe that's where you know mid 40s.

I'm maybe not as good at planning as I should be, but I get told off because nothing goes in my calendar. You weren't in my calendar today, but I knew I was doing it in my head. My head knew I was doing it. My phone didn't see that. Matt, it's been really great to talk to you. You know, we wish you the best of luck for your new job, for the operation. What? And we do as a fable. Have you got a photo of your gingerbread biscuits? Can you send that to us?

I can possibly say, if not, it's Taster this Thursday. So if that would be in time, I could take a picture of my biscuits and our toaster with me a selfie. And I'm right, I'm only 16 minutes away from you. So you could pop some down in the car down to me. Well, if that's in time for for me in your like deadline. Oh, no, I'm a new junkie. Come down to my. No, I'm not sending you biscuits. I meant for the for the podcast. To me with a biscuit mate. Come on.

Well, I can't do it. You said be your location elder. I'll send you some biscuits. She could just whatever, get an app that delivers it or something like that. Just prime Matthew Biscuit delivery. I'll be all stunned by in the kitchen.

There's a premium charge for that kind of service, I imagine. I don't want cheap. Look, we wish you the best of luck also to all of your family as well. And we stay a lotier at Ants as well who are living it up in the swimming world in Wales. They're looking absolutely cracking. I'll keep you updated about the, well, actually I might post about the operation. We'll see how it goes.

Yeah, we look forward to following what happens. And thank you. Yeah, thank you for sharing. And, you know, for people who are listening, you can go and watch the video with Matthew on semi-world YouTube channel. There's also the articles and features on the members' episodes, all that there. So you can go and have a Gander at his lovely pictures.

In the meantime, we are back next week with a members episode titled rewrite to your Christmas. So we're digging a little bit more into the mindset, into behavior changes. We're coming back to this word choice because it seems to be that that's quite a powerful word at the moment. We'll be back very soon. So have a great week and take care. Bye for now. Bye.