#2249 - Yannis Pappas & Chris Distefano
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December 31, 2024
TLDR: Comedians Yannis Pappas and Chris DiStefano host 'History Hyenas', a new podcast on comedy and history.

In episode #2249 of the Joe Rogan Experience, hosts Yannis Pappas and Chris Distefano, both renowned stand-up comics, engage in a lively conversation that ranges from personal anecdotes to historical insights and existential questions.
Key Themes & Insights
1. Humor and Personal Background
Yannis and Chris share humorous personal stories, reflecting on their individual upbringings and the influences that shape them as comedians. An interesting segment touches on Chris's lack of traditional masculine skills, such as playing pool or smoking cigars, framing it against Yannis's experiences. They highlight how different family dynamics can shape one's identity and humor style.
- Takeaways:
- Personal experiences greatly influence comedic style.
- Family dynamics can dictate one's comfort with traditional masculinity.
2. Cultural Commentary:
They shift to discuss the state of masculinity in modern society, emphasizing their understanding that emotions and vulnerability are integral to being a man. This segment includes via comedy a poignant reflection on how societal norms pressure men to suppress their feelings, softening their humorous narrative.
- Takeaways:
- Embracing emotions does not undermine masculinity; rather, it enriches personal expression.
- Humor can serve as a medium to discuss serious cultural changes affecting men today.
3. Historical Anecdotes:
The duo dives into discussions about historical figures such as Napoleon, connecting various historical forces with insights on culture, war, and hygiene practices in ancient times. Their dialogues suggest that the challenges of past human civilizations mirrored some of today's complexities, particularly regarding cleanliness and societal structures.
- Takeaways:
- The past informs our present, offering parallels that highlight human behavior.
- Humor can be derived from serious historical facts, showcasing the absurdity of humanity's journey.
4. UFOs and Alien Theories:
A fascinating segment arises around the ongoing conversations about UFO sightings and alien existence. They ponder the implications of alien life, discussing themes like surveillance, human introspection, and the potential for a greater understanding of existence if we were not alone in the universe.
- Takeaways:
- The discussion of aliens represents humanity's quest for knowledge and understanding of our place in the universe.
- Connecting humor with the exploration of existential themes can provide a unique lens through which to view common fears and curiosities.
5. Physical Health and Fitness:
The conversation also warms up to physical modalities like stem cell therapy and cutting-edge recovery techniques. Chris shares his personal challenges with injuries and the various health treatments being discussed, shining a light on how athletes look for innovative methods to recover in sports.
- Takeaways:
- Modern health solutions such as stem cell treatments are becoming more accessible.
- Acknowledging and addressing physical health is essential for overall well-being, especially in high-performance fields.
Conclusion
This episode of the Joe Rogan Experience is a rich tapestry of humor, history, health, and existential contemplation. The interplay between Yannis Pappas and Chris Distefano not only entertains but also prompts listeners to reflect on broader social issues while maintaining a light-hearted narrative. Their genuine camaraderie and willingness to tackle deep topics through the lens of humor foster a dynamic listening experience.
Overall, this episode serves as a reminder of the power of humor to engage with significant societal themes while also providing a vibrant space for personal storytelling.
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Okay. Yeah. Is this the right way? Yeah. It's gonna vomit. I wanna see him vomit. I don't think he's gonna vomit. Don't inhale it. You gotta get the fire. First you gotta lower your hand. Yeah. Are you doing this on purpose? I swear on my kids I've never done this. No, no, I mean the way you're being retarded. Like get the fire on the... Get it on there. Get it on there. Get it in there. There you go.
All right, you're good, just start pulling. No, you're not good. How did you fuck that up? What am I supposed to do? You gotta inhale while you were lighting it. What you want to do is inhale all the smoke in. No, no, no, no, no. You just kind of keep taking deep fun with them. Breathe in while you're doing that. Jesus Christ. How do you get to be 40 and never have a cigar? Well, now he's a man. Now you're a man. So what do I do now?
You puff on it. It's not even lit. How'd you fuck that up? I just tried to write it for five minutes. You gotta puff on it. You gotta do this and you don't inhale, you just take it into your mouth.
You enjoy the taste of it. There you go. Take some little puffs. Yeah. This is not going to work out well. Couple puffs. Yeah. You're going to like the whole thing. Yeah, you're good. Puff. Puff. Keep puffing. Keep it lit. You want to keep it lit? There we go. Yeah, that's the most. Yeah, that's the first time you smoked it. Sorry. When I was six years old. Like a regular person. Yeah, like a regular person with my uncle. You know what it is? I didn't get to be 40. No cigars. I think because my dad never really smoked.
It's in the back ride. I'll start crying. No, it's in the back of my throat my dad never really smoked and I never really did any like man Kind of stuff like this and I was with my mom mostly and she was more, you know, we said that History I know well, it's just I got cigar the back of my throat
But I don't know what to do. I also, I'm just thinking about how my clothes are going to smell like cigar smoke. Yeah, I know it really does. It's going to mess with your head. Yeah. And it messes my head because I'm like, I don't want to get cigar smoke on my clothes. Do you use cologne? Yes. Shout out Eve Saint Laurent.
I'm body odor. Do you not use cologne? No. Never? No, never. Maybe when I was like 18. You just go with your natural musk. Why wear deodorant? Right. I wear Dr. Squatch. Shout out Dr. Squatch. Shout out Dr. Squatch. Natural. It doesn't have aluminum in it. Yeah. But I wonder if it works as good.
Well, there's more effect. I think there's something to the aluminum. Why would you put it in there if it wasn't effective? No, I tried the deodorant without the aluminum and I... Dr. Squire said he could take a sniff of these bits. Can I take a peek? Can I smell? Yeah, you want me to go on the other side? Come take a sniff. They smell good. Yeah, that's right. Get in there. Yeah. Not bad. Yeah. Not bad, right? Yeah.
Yeah, that's uh, watches legit. I forget which flavor it is. It's like fucking whiskey bourbon musk some shit. There's pheromones in natural sense. Yeah, that's a lie. You know what I mean? There's pheromones, but natural people smell disgusting. People that don't wear any deodorant, they always smell funky. They have like, you know,
Your pits are, think about how it works, right? It's just getting squashed all the time. Your pits are just constantly getting squashed and there's hair in there, unless you're a weirdo. So there's hair and the hair is collecting all the sweat and it's just getting funky.
That's what made eating pussy so hard before like the 2000s. Poor porn. Poor porn. But porn used to be muffed out, right? Yeah. Somewhere along the line, it wasn't. And then society followed. Yes. Right. And it changed eating pussy. I mean, it's so much more enjoyable without any fumes. Yeah. Because the fumes get caught in the hair. Fumade. Yeah. Yes. Stuff goes on down there. Yeah. Well, no plus six inches from the asshole. Yeah. Not even. Yeah.
No. Yeah. Napoleon's letters to Josephine, he wanted her to have a full bush and he wanted her not to bathe for a week. When he was coming on for more, he said, I need it. I need it fucking munchy. So some guys like that. Well, he was involved in trench warfare, right? That guy had different tolerance for shit. Yeah. You know, you just imagine the kind of warfare that Napoleon's crew were. I mean, they had muskets.
And they were also probably much more tolerant of bad smells, because history smelled. Can you imagine? People bathed once a week, and they're even athletes' foot. Everybody probably had athletes' foot. Stinky. Yeah, everyone. They didn't have badays yet. So your asshole was just like, they didn't have running water, bro. Yeah, they have nothing.
They had buckets. Yeah. They were shitting in buckets. The only people who were clean in antiquity, Muslim people. They were the clean ones. When you read about the Crusades, they said the Muslims were able to smell the Christian army coming from miles away because of how filthy they were where Muslims were all about science and cleanliness. Oh, yeah. And you know, doctors watched before it was big. Well, before the Mongols sacked Iraq,
Like, they were, like, that was the pinnacle of civilization. They turned the river, was it the river Tigris? They turned it red with blood. Like, that's how many people they killed. They killed the entire town of Baghdad. Like, they killed everybody there. And those people were at the pinnacle of science. And then, look, you go all the way to the 1990s and you got fuckin' Sodom Hussein and his psychopathic kids runnin' shit and killin' people. And that was what was left over. Yeah. Yeah, same gene line.
It's really nuts when you think about it. You think that gets into the genes, like the killer kind of encyclopedia. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. I think good things and bad things get in your genes. I think that's been substantiated by science. They said that even racism can be passed on from parent to child. That makes sense. I believe in traumatic memories. I believe it. Yeah. But I feel like only now as I'm getting older, am I like, oh, I have some of my mom's memories in my head. I feel like think about it. Like think about
Let's look at the snake of simpler animals, like animals, like dogs, like Carl. How the fuck does a dog know to pee on a tree? How does a dog know to go to where pee is and pee on it? How do they know any of those things? They're born with it. They're programmed in. There's some memory. How do they know when they see another dog or an animal to bark? Why are they scared of it? Why are people scared of snakes? Why are people scared of spiders?
Puerto Ricans are not scared of snakes. Well, they're in Puerto Rico. No, I'm saying they take them as household pets. Yes. My friend Sergio's got eight of them. Eight snakes. Yeah, Sergio might be a problem. Yes, Sergio is a problem. Sergio's gonna hurt somebody. Yeah, pets that are snakes. Sergio used to beat up drug dealers when he was 15 with his fists. Like that was he would get the drug. Other drug dealers would pay this 15 year old kid to go beat up other drug dealers with his fists on the lower side and get money.
But he's a great guy and a spiritual guy, and he's the only guy I know that would beat up a drug dealer and then journal about it later because he's in his speech. He's our friend. He's our friend. He's a comic. He's a comic. Yeah, he's a comic and a boxing instructor. Oh, no, he didn't. Yeah, he's a boxing instructor. He's both. We're fucking ready. Yeah, we're ready. He looks thinner, dude. You really do. You look healthy. Thank you. He does. He looks boxing. I've been boxing.
Yeah, I'll tell him he's moves. You want to say it for real? I'll show you form. I got video. I'll show you form. Yeah, he's got a nice. He's got a video today. I got a video today. He's got a nice right hand. He's not you say you're slow, but you're not slow, but you got a nice nice right hand. Yeah, I have he tells me I got a little power in both hands.
Right. So I don't know. You're a little too confident for my liking. I know. I know. And that's how it goes. And then you just get fucking stretched out. You'll get laid out, cuz. Yeah, you get stretched out. You have a smaller head than normal physical. It's hard to catch. It's harder target. Yeah, you're fucking target. It looks like you got a helmet on your head. Listen, the reality is both of you are going to get hit a lot. 100%. And it's way better to have a big head.
Is it? Why? Guys with bigger heads, traditionally, for a fact, take a better shot. That means a lot of these guys like Mark Hunt. Mark Hunt, one of the greatest kickboxers of all time. Yeah. K-1, Grand Prix champion, fought in UFC, fought in Pride is a legend. Head the size of this table.
Yeah, body body head the size of this tail. Yeah. Yeah. He was just some one. Yeah. Just a giant thick dude. He was like five, 10 to 50. Yeah. Right. You know, but one of the greatest chins of all time and all of combat sports. Can you see just from looking on our faces, how easy it would be to my chin's going out? I'm going out quick, right? You don't have good structure. Yeah.
I got a lady's face is what you say. No, you have a man's face, but there's certain faces that are easier to hurt. Yeah. Right. And his got a good job. But you know, there's arguments against that. Like there's some guys have small jaws and somehow or another, they take great punches. Right. Max Holloway doesn't have like a big square jaw. It takes a tremendous punch.
Yeah, right. I'm scared to sleep with the lights off. So I don't, I don't, I think if I got hit, you know, I can take a good shot though. The structure is good. Yeah. When I have what my defense is, not against guys like you, or if you don't know me, what my defense is, I look like I can take a hug. You look like you could be a complete psychopath. And I don't know any, I could teach you how to like really find your inner psycho. You'd scare the fuck off. First, you got to teach me how to light a cigar. I don't even know what to do. There's something dead behind your eyes that's very troubling if you were angry.
if I was angry. Yeah, but the thing is for me, Joan, I'm just completely honest with you, when I get really angry, like you'll punch a wall or you'll do man shit, I cry. I really, there's been many times where I've gotten so mad that I just start to tear up and cry. I've cried in front of you honest before. When you get angry? When I get angry, I just start to cry. So there's some wires crossed somewhere in me, but we've kind of accepted that's why I think our friendship is blossom to the way it is because we both understand that we just have a little bit more estrogen than most guys, and that's okay. We got nicked for sure.
I mean, some people get fully clipped. I think we got. Joe didn't get it at all. Joe got not even close to being nicked and which is rare for a comic because it's very usually hard to be funny and not a little bit of a feminine guy. You're a very manly guy that can be funny. That's a rarity, babe. Yeah. Well, most guys that if you like hang around boxing gyms or if you hang around a lot of cops or if you hang around soldiers, they're funny men.
There's funny dudes because it's gallows humor because they're doing like one of my funniest friends was a Special Forces guy. Yeah, he's fucking hilarious. Yeah. Yeah, and he's always cracking like Jokes you could never repeat, you know saying things you can never repeat and it's just so funny. It's like he's funny It's just funny in you know kind of a crazy way. Yeah, right
We always say that like if we were like back in history, like 200 years ago, whatever, we'd be the guys in the war. We'd either be hitting the drums or we would just be keeping the troops loose, laughing with the troops because we're not the kind of guy. We think we have value as men to other warrior men like yourself, but we're not going to do the fighting, but we will do the cooking, the cleaning and the laughing. I will offer my nuts up to be a eunuch to watch the harem.
It's also the experiences that you've had in your life to make you who you are right now. It's not as simple as like when I was a kid, I was terrified of everybody. That's why I learned martial arts. I was getting picked on. I hated it. So I was like, all right, I got to figure out. Well, there's only one way. The only one way is to become formidable, to become the person that you're scared of.
So I did that. But it wasn't because I was this kid that was tough all the time. When I was young, I understood how to just be a fucking man. I had to learn all that. Right. From Great Weakness Comes Great Strength. Yeah. Well, you recognize what it is. It's thought patterns. You allow your brain to go down these.
very detrimental thought patterns and you under you have to like separate you Consciousness from these patterns that you allow your your attention to go down That's what it is. Yeah, and if you can shut those off You'll you'll have a happier life you have to you have to understand where they're going and when they go in a negative detrimental anxiety spiral and
I'm not saying this will work for everybody because I do believe that some anxiety is chemical. I believe that some people have a bad balance because I have no people like that. It's a real thing. I can never say that the way I think is the way everybody thinks. There's no way.
But I know for me that with me, I know because of extreme experiences, I know how to shut those things off. So from fighting, from hunting, from doing stand-up, from doing a lot of live things, where you're in front of thousands of people.
I know how to shut that part of the brain off that goes down those roads. I know what it is, you know? I've experienced it. I've never had a panic attack, but I've had anxiety, and I've freaked out before, and then I was like, wow, did I react like that? And then you look at it in retrospect, you go, okay, I started spiraling, and then what if this happens? And then what if that happens? And what if this happens? What if that happens? Whoa!
Okay, don't do that. Yeah. And then get to that spot and have enough mental clarity and enough sovereignty, control over the mind to not allow it to go down there. It's tough when you have a comedian's brain because that's what we do. We spend a lot of time in our heads analyzing things, analyzing things is sometimes it can turn on you.
Yeah, if it starts with what if it's anxiety, push it out of the brain, folks. And anxiety's a liar. Anxiety's a liar. It's a liar. Fucking liar. But what if sometimes is good? What if I do this? What if I just re-look at this? What if it's not bad? What if it's attached to it? What if it all falls apart? What if everyone hates me? Every now and then I get a text from a friend that's like, hey, man, are we cool? What are you talking about?
Like, what are you talking about? Of course we're cool. Like, what happened? Well, I just don't know. I haven't heard from you in a while. I'm like, are you OK? Yeah. Like, what is that? Like, let's talk on the phone. Yeah. Yeah. These are weird conversations, you know, where some people just go down a road and they start thinking everybody hates them. That's narcissism, right? They just think everyone's obsessed with you. There's a little bit of that, right? Unfortunately, even victims, like people that are psychologically
damaged and they're depressed. That is a type of narcissism, unfortunately. But you don't want to further victimize someone who's going to mental illness by saying, oh, you're a narcissist. But if you're just only worried about how other people think of you,
and only worried about how you fit into everything. Yeah, there's a narcissism in that. I know when I text you, I just go, hey, there's a one in six chance. The guy's a busy guy. That's what it is. I never take a question. I have to get a new number, and I've been saying this for a while. I have a couple numbers, but I have to renew.
I gotta just completely check out all these shows. And I never call you first because I'm like, I don't know if we got that type of friendship. You can totally call me. I can call you. Yes, we're friends. All right. How do you want to see you? Yeah. Then you can call me. Oh, I'm calling you. There's been a couple of times I've sent you, I've come over for Christmas. Yeah. Now, wow, you're going to see a lot of y'all on his back just pop it up. Let's go. Yeah. There's been a couple of times I've sent you voice notes. Yeah. And then you listen back and I'm like, I'm not sending that. And then I just don't reach out. What did you say? What's up, Paddy Bubbles? What's up, baby gorgeous? Yes. No sends me the most voice notes. Alex Jones, because they disappear.
All right, well, they're planning but you could keep them perfect. Yeah, you're right. But doesn't he know if you keep them? Yeah, I don't want to know it. Yeah, you don't know what I'll do. I'll record it with another phone. It's smart. I like, you know, film it smart, dude. Yeah, that's what the problem is. Yeah, that's perfect. I mean, it's almost like I've known him for about 25 fucking years. I mean, if you called me did that, I'd be like Alex Trump gets in there gonna the aliens will land.
That's perfect. Turn in the frog's gay. Dude, I saw a video of Alex Jones, and I'm late to the game. I've seen this, but how he predicted 9-11 in June of 2001. He did. I was crazy to watch that. Tucker thinks he's a savant. He's a very misunderstood guy. He really is. And it's really unfortunate that Sandy Hook thing, because it wasn't for that. He would be way more respected, and people would appreciate him for what he is. He had a psychotic break, and he had
He had a drinking problem at one time and maybe some other stuff and he was losing his fucking mind because all day long it's conspiracies that are real. And so when you start looking for conspiracies in places that aren't real and then I think there's also another thing.
I think there are certain people. Now, I don't know who they work for, I don't know if they're independent, I don't know if they do it just for fun. Some people create fake compelling conspiracies and then put them online. Yeah, for sure. They do it. For content. Yeah, for reviews. That's true too. Attention. But I think there's a more nefarious aspect to it too. Oh yeah. I think the more conspiracies that you can make look really stupid, the more the real ones
uh... seem preposterous because they're connected mmm right like here's a great example um... nine eleven was inside job that sounds fucking insane right that sounds completely insane that the government did that fifty one former intelligence agents testified that hundred biden's laptop was rushing disinformation
That sounds crazy too, but that's real. If you get enough of the ones that don't make sense, like the Jews control the weather, you get enough of the flat earth ones, it's like the term drugs. The term drugs applies to nicotine, it applies to the coffee we're drinking. That's what a drug is, but it also applies to fucking meth.
Conspiracy theories are lumped in all together, just like drugs. And the best way to do that is to put a bunch of bad ones out there, really bad ones, so that the ones that are plausible, you go, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Show me the Pfizer files. Why are they hidden for 75 years? Wait a minute, wait a minute. How many people did you test this on? Did you ever test for transmission? You never did. So when you were on TV and you're saying that, what was going on there? That's a real conspiracy. These are real people conspired to hide information and to shape a narrative that would be very, very profitable. Right. But nobody's going to believe the Jews created the weather and then also
Every, like, you know, it's only a small group of people who are going to go to the Jews who control the weather. They're definitely cloud-seeding. They do buy. They will crawl into that. They will crawl into that. The Jews will crawl into your shoes. For sure. Yeah. They make sure you keep them tight in your laces. For sure, there's people that can discern between a good conspiracy and a bad conspiracy. But I don't think there's a lot of them. I think it's like 30% of the population. All right, let me ask you about this one then. America maybe. America. Yeah. 30% of America. Let me throw this one out. Are you ready for this one?
Do you think it's possible? Just hear me out. Do you think it's possible that what this existence actually is is some type of prison planet and we are negative emotions are being fed on by an ancient alien race that has kind of imprisoned us and the reason why monks and people like that go into deep meditation is because a lot of this universe is spoken through vibrations and they can get their vibrations to a certain height where they can vibrate and have so much positive energy that the prison planet rulers can eat their
can eat them and they're not stuck in this loop like we are. This is real. I thought it was eat their negative thoughts. Eat their negative thoughts and negative emotions. Can you write me up? I'd like to hear about that. This is such a feminine thing. He's asked you to hold the door open for him. Why don't you put the umbrella over his head, light a cigar. You're getting lit up on nicotine.
Yeah, that's what it is. I feel lightheaded. Is that normal? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You make it sick too. But it'll be fine. Cigars are so good for conversation. You're not going to get sick. Cigars are so good for conversation because it gets you a little loose. Yeah. It's nice. It's a nice little buzz.
So you don't think the prison plan, you don't think this is, there's a possibility this is a prison plan from an advanced human race and they're eating our negative emotions and thoughts for fuel. Where'd you get that? Where'd you get that from? Jones. No, not Jones. Jones is a much more detailed inspiration. Any sort of dimensional child molesters. There's a device on the moon. There's a device on the moon that that's how they reflect. That's how they reflect. That's the energy goes to that. That sounds like something. El Ron Hubbard shit.
Have you ever read any Elrond Hubbard? I know the details. I know it's a nice pyramid scheme to go up all the way. Oh, yeah, but that's just the Dianetics or Scientology. The really fun stuff is his science fiction. Do you know that he wrote the most words ever of any human being? More than James Joyce? He has the most published work of all time.
so he's like no one thomas kinkane thomas kinkane of writing well he never made a second draft homeboy stuff all sucked it was all unbelievably bad science fiction it was unbelievably bad like wonderful like so bad it's just like what have you ever seen a battlefield earth
Yeah, that was the worst movie ever on. Robert is a record holding author who holds a Guinness World Records for publishing. Most published works by one author, most audio books published by one author, most translated author in the world, most translated author, same book, the way to happiness. Very interesting. He's a special IBM typewriter with extra keys for common words.
What? It was so bad. It was so bad at writing. Not only did he not edit it. He needed the word ready. So you think you might be. You keep going. You might be in line for podcasts for Guinness World Records. Most podcasts minutes ever recorded. That's possible. That's right. Maybe you could get that. Maybe. I mean, what's the record now? Who's doing nine hours a week? Yeah. Only you might already have it. You might already have it. That's like I already have the Guinness World Record one that Adam Corolla holds. What's that one?
Adam Crowler has like the most downloaded podcast of all time. Like, bitch, that's mine. You can have it though. Keep your name in the book. That's mine. Well, because yeah, you have to specifically go to Guinness World Records and they have to do research and like give you a whole thing. Yeah, you have to prove it. You have to go to them to try to get it on the books and I don't give a fuck.
If they were like really checking it's you it has to be yeah, it's I've been It's this has been number one for five or six years. Yeah, there's no way right? There's no way I'm crawl still got it. That's crazy. No way I know and you do what average three every episode three hours So it's nine hours a week average. Yeah, yeah, but I'm using four usually for a week So it's usually 12 and sometimes five. Yeah, this week is for
Some weeks it's five, and if it's a fight companion, some weeks it's four in a fight companion, the fight companion might be five hours long.
It's just passion you think like you never say fuck. I gotta do a pod. It's always like no way to do that. I never say fuck I have to do. That's beautiful. Especially the guys like you I'm like we're gonna have fun. Yeah, fun. What are we talking about prison plan? You know how? You do you know how much we would be loving this if it never happened? Like if you never got to be around friends and just shoot the shit and smoke his agar and laugh and crack up and talk about nonsense like
If you couldn't do it, it would be something you would look forward to so much. If you're lonely, if you didn't have good friends, you didn't have like, comics are the best friends. They're the best friends to have. Because you could be open with them, they talk crazy, they say wild shit, you laugh together, you feed off of each other, they're the best friends. If you didn't have any comics for friends, there's a lot of fucking sad, sad people out there. So if you're not sad, you say your comics aren't sad? Oh yeah, some comics are sad. Some comics are sad.
tears of a clown. Yeah, that's a little exaggerated. I think a lot of them are sad because of the whole thing we were talking about before, like narcissism and anxiety. Like comics are some awful narcissists. But you know when you really see that, when comics start attacking, comics that are doing better than them. It's the only comics that are doing better than them. So what's happening?
comparison, the thief of joy. Yeah. Teddy Roosevelt. Yeah. All criticism comes from a place of unmet needs. Right. A tragic result of unmet needs. Right. And so there's this feeling like, what do you mean? Me, me, me, me? Fuck you, honest. Why is he fucking history hyenas? I'll give a fuck of their back. Fuck off. Yeah. We are back.
I'm a baby, it's not about me, everybody else sucks.
Yeah, that's what it is. True. Are you, isn't there a wonderful world that we live in? Isn't there chaos and beauty? Is there so many things to talk about? And you're going to talk about other comics. Shut the fuck up, bitch. Yeah, I agree. Shut the fuck up, you whiny bitch. Yeah. That's why it's good to have, in my opinion, you know, we both have kids. We get lost, you know, you know, we'll do our work and then we'll do our stuff, have fun. And then we just play with our kids, play like the real stuff that matters. You know, our wives, our kids hanging out with them. It definitely changes everything.
Some of our peers who don't have families and it's just constantly worried about this business is like, that's, I don't know how you're gonna get off that treadmill. Yeah, that's not good. I would not be the same human being if I didn't have a family. I just would not. I wouldn't have the same empathy and compassion for people. I wouldn't understand the development of a child. I talked about this before, but I really genuinely changed the way I look at human beings after I became a parent.
Because I used to look at adults like they were just oh this guy's asshole. He's 36 He's a fucking dickhead now. I go. Oh, that's a baby
That's a baby that got terrible exposure to bad ideas and bad input and mean people around them. And you got, you know, thrust into this situation. So now you see him like when I see homeless people, I get so sad. And I see like homeless people that are just like, I'm like, that's someone's baby. They held that baby. And now here's this person just leaning on the corner. You know, what is that thing they're doing? And like it's a lot of it in Philadelphia where they're like,
Well, like totally lean back. Oh, is this a cold crank or something? Yeah, that's what they call it. It's the heroin lean. It's the heroin tend to fill in. I don't even know if it's heroin. It's like, I think it's some new stuff. It's a new shit. This guy was like doing a yoga thing. I'm like, if you could do that, like, it's essentially he's doing like a very difficult core maneuver. Yeah, Joe's like, can I do that with a kettlebell? I was wondering.
I was looking at this guy. I don't think that's good for your back. But if he can hold it there, there's going to be some very good structure. Do you do that? It's a baby thing, even with Genghis Khan and Heather. Even when they're murdering, he's just a baby. Yeah, I do. I mean, I don't forgive them. I mean, it's not like what stopped me from killing them. But what it does do is it puts me in this place of, instead of thinking of everything as being static, that everything is just a constant progression towards what you
war now. Yeah. Even though, listen, dude, I love America. I bleed red, white and blue. I stayed draped in the American flag. I love our country. I do. I do understand terrorism. Terrorists like old school terrorists when like, you know, if America's like bomb their country for whatever reason and killed their babies, they're like, well, now I'm going to fucking go lethal and I'm going to start killing everybody in that country. When I can't, I just get it where I didn't get it before I had kids. But I'm like, if somebody did that to me and my children and took them away,
I would just go crazy. I'd learn how to lie to cigar, and I'd start fucking killing people because I have nothing left to live for, I feel. So I get it now. Of course. I mean, it's not a coincidence that some of the scariest people live in war-torn parts of the world. Sure. Like the fighters that come to the UFC, the scariest motherfuckers like the guys from Chechnya, like, you know, guys from Dagestan, like, those guys are terrifying. Yeah. Why? Well, look at the history of that part of the world. Yeah. You know, I mean, you have to be a hard person to fucking survive.
Right. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Am I supposed to just keep holding the cigar? You guys put it down. No, I put it down every now and then. So I just put it down and now let's be set. Sorry about that. Sorry about that. Yeah. So, all right. Dices cigarettes in there. So don't take the cigarettes out. Take the fucking ashtray. Oh, sorry. I don't know what to do.
This is fun though. Why do you want to keep DICE's cigarettes in there? Because they're DICE's! He doesn't smoke them, he just takes them out and he holds on to them and he puts them in the ashtray and pulls another one out and he holds on to them. He went smoking again for a while, he started smoking again but then he stopped again. Got a BK from my health.
Yeah, oh you want to talk about a great father and some but that that's nice dice dice is all about his kids Very dedicated. You know these kids play the band they play like at his shows You know that his son's son is fucking amazing on the drums. Yeah. Yeah, he's a great guy Yeah, he's another misunderstood guy legitimate good dude
and also a legitimate artist. His performance art, the weird stuff that he does in New York City for no money, for no people. Do you want the picture? Yeah, there's so few people are even watching those clips. If we haven't brought them up, I don't know how many views they would even have. He's not promoting it. He's not trying to go on podcasts. It's amazing. He doesn't even tell you about them. You have to find them. And if you're on a podcast, he's like, you gotta see this thing I'm doing.
But then they want a bitch. He doesn't do any of that. He doesn't do any of that. He's a big shot. He's a real artist, man. He's the best. Give me something. Do you know? OK. Have you been keeping up with the drone flying saucer thing? No. Hi. Have you been seeing the spaceships?
Did you see any of the flying sources that they've been talking about? You would never imagine that that guy sold out massive square guard. That's what I was just thinking multiple times. That's all Colosseo. He was a fucking man. At one point, he was like the only comedian people knew about. He was certainly one of
only being casuals. Yeah. What is also great about dice is, you know, obviously, honestly, both comics in New York. So we see him a lot. He's one of the most giving guys to the younger guys. Oh, yeah. When he comes into the clubs, he'll tell you about, he won't tell you about his feats at Madison Square Garden, all that to tell you like how good he is. He'll say, here's where I was. Here's where I am now. So this comedy game is like a roller coaster and I'm living proof and just stay in the game. That's always tells me to stay in the game because you just don't know. Do not quit. No, he's great. He's great. How old is dice now?
60s? Definitely 60s. He gave me advice to go on the road when I was just hanging out at the store when I was in my 20s. I met Dias. I couldn't believe I was meeting him. You know what I mean? It was like one of those things like, I can't believe that's really him. You know, you see a guy like when I was 19 years old, me and this girl was dating, we were listening to his cassette in my car in front of my house. I'll never forget it. We're crying. Bye.
in front of my house. So for me, that was Dice. Dice was this guy where I'd seen him on HBO, like, this is crazy. He's on HBO, like, this is so funny. To now, like, getting advice from him at the store is like, you should do the road. And I was like, really? He goes, yeah, you don't want to rely on these jerk offs for all your fucking money.
And it's like, you know, you don't need these people to, you know, and it's the advice I give everybody now. Like, you don't want to be connected where you're completely dependent on one source of income. That's terrible. It's a bad place to be. He'll text me sometimes and be like, oh, Chris, can you talk?
And then if I don't answer, he'll say, call me back when your kids are sleeping. And then when you call him, because he's like, I never want to take attention away from you from your children. So he goes, I want to talk to you when you're either your kids are in school or they're asleep. Other than that, he goes, you should just be focusing on your kids and not talking to anybody. So I was like, oh, wow, DICE is like really about his kids. It's like an awesome thing, you know? And then he'll go goosh. And then he'll start telling you about I fucking good on her last night. You got to respect your family.
I've noticed now when you like my conversations with people to have become like I did when I was in high school I got to wait till everyone's asleep and then I got It's late at night one in the morning and I only people I can talk to his comics because they're up and yeah, you know It's weird, you know kids don't even talk to each other. They just snapchat Yeah, most of them snapchat now I'm learning this from my kids like like you guys don't text at all she goes I only text my family
Yeah. So like if she gets an iMessage, it's only from one of us. Right. That's it. Everything else is they're snapping each other back and forth. Yeah. And they just like take a picture of this. Yeah. And then they're doing it all day long and saying something. Here's where my life is our end. I don't think it's good.
They don't want a bigger screen either. My kids don't want to go to the movies. They think the screen's too big it freaks them out. They want to want the biggest screen that they want to watch is the screen that we have at home or their phone. I took them to see the movie. They were like freaked out, too big the screen. Interesting. That might have a little you in them. Yeah. That might be I know. I know. That ain't normal. Do you think it's bad?
My daughters are the man I wish I could be. It's got to be bad for them. I think it's bad. Well, it's different. What screens? You think the Snapchat, the social media? It's not good. It's just a different way of interacting. I think everybody's like blowing it out of proportion. First of all, I think it's not good. Don't get me wrong, but I think it's inevitable. It's like if it's raining, you're going to get wet. Shut the fuck up. This is the world we're living in. It's a weird world, and it's better to develop the ability to cope and handle it at a young age.
It's definitely not good, you know. What about college? Do you think like your kids, do you want them? I know we want them to go to college, but do you care if they go to Harvard or Yale anymore? Do you think that's more meaningless now than it was 30 years ago? I want my kids to do what they want to do. I don't want to be that dad that's like, I want you to go to Yale. I don't think that's good. I don't think that ever works. I think at best you give advice. And at best, you always connect advice to mistakes.
I'll tell you what I did wrong. This is what I did wrong. When I was a kid, I always fuck this up. Whenever I would correct them about something, I was like, I did the same thing. I did the exact same thing. Everybody does this. And this is why, and this is what you gotta know. I feel bad about stuff I did when I was five. It's tough when you have daughters. I can't be like, just make sure you wear a condom. I don't know what girls do to mess up.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean... It's so brutal to be a girl. You either have to get on birth control, which completely fucks with your hormones. Completely fucks with your body. Also can cause blood clots. Like, girls die from that. I had a dude that I knew from martial arts, and his daughter died. She was 17 years old. She was smoking cigarettes, and you're not supposed to smoke cigarettes when you're on birth control.
It's horrible. Yeah, and nobody even knows that. Like nobody knows that. Like if they tell you it goes in one ear out the other because everybody's on birth control and you don't think about it. And so fathers just fucking snap like that guy and just locked his daughter in a basement for 28 years. He was just like, well now you're just never coming out. You ever see that story of that guy? No. That guy locked his daughter in the aerial cash grow.
No, no, no, this is I think it was in Germany or Austria one of those countries guy locked his daughter He said he had built a room downstairs a studio for her to like drums or something like that Whatever she was into and then he went on how to go in like the the most Inner room of this thing and he built and he locked her and then she did not see light again for 28 years She's still alive. She's alive and she's telling her story now. I think he might have raped her too
Yes, oh God times and had seven kids Yeah, yeah Germans are weird. How about that German guy that ate that other guy's penis? He and he he answered an ad well the guy asked him. Yeah He's penis it is keto and they ate it together, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah
But he ate his own dick. He ate his own penis with his with the body. Yeah. It happens. Yeah. Well, wasn't even a buddy. As a guy, he meant not Craigslist or something. Right. Wires get crossed. Yeah, Germans just, you know, Germans. What do you think that is? I think it's just, it's something in theirs that's like very good. They are engineering. Right. Yeah. Right. Like think about, just think about modern automobiles and how many of them originated in Germany.
Yeah. Bavarian motorworks, Porsche, Audi, Mercedes-Benz, that's kind of crazy. Yep. That like most of the best cars come from this one little country. I think maybe they're Viking, they're former, you know, they're Nordic tribes. Where's the great Iceland cars? They don't have shit.
No, yes. I'm about the Germanic people. They like to just get things done. And they are. They are a very violent empathy. Yeah. They're more violent than others. Because you think it's just the Nazis, but then when you look back, you're like, no, no, this has been happening. Like, you know, you know, like the Hessians who like the barbarians, barbarians, the British redcoats, the Germanic tribes,
went after the Romans, too, right, Germanicized, but they hired the Hessians. I read this. I read a book where it was they were talking about they had letters from British redcoat soldiers from 1776 that were riding back to their wives about how things were. And there was this one battle. I think it was the Battle of Brooklyn where the Hessians, they had the Hessian mercenaries come
on first, on to land first, and they started killing the patriot soldiers, the Continental Army, and they were cutting their faces off and sharing each other, sharing the faces and laughing about it. And the British soldiers are saying, these guys are crazy, like they're running around with other soldiers' faces that they just murdered. And I don't know what to do with them. They're on our side, but they are nuts. And that was German. And then it goes all the way through to the Nazis. So there's something a little different about the geography of that place. You just go to their
and you see them like putting button bottles in their assholes. They just need something. They need a little kick in the nuts. It's what it is. Guys had this story a little wrong. Is that your list?
The guy so I was a cannibal who had an advertisement for a quote slaughter victim. Right. This was consensual. Okay. And then he ate 44 pounds of his flesh after killing him. A company by potatoes and a pepper or wine sauce served on good crockery.
So he wanted to die in other words, but it was penis too. They did. They fried and she says tried to eat, but it wasn't a surprise kill. This man wanted to be killed, but it brings up underworld cannibalism in Germany with about 800 people.
Yeah. So in other words, it turned him on to be eaten. Yeah. That was his cake. Right. Look at this. Well, it was faster than the media, but then the public was the testimony in which, how do you say his name? Muse. Muse. Revealed his obsessions and lifted the lid on an underworld of cannibalism, which Muse claims counts about 800 members in Germany. Muse told the court he regretted killing Brandes.
and has apologized to his victim's boyfriend, but he remained unrepentant about eating his flesh, saying it was the ultimate kick. Both of them were seeking. Right. How about this one? Psychologists have told the court that he was mentally sane. Right. I believe it. Sometimes just like to eat.
Dude, we did a whole history hanging episode on John D. Rockefeller, and we found that one of John D. Rockefeller's nephews, I think Michael Rockefeller, was an eager guy, wanted to film everyone in the Amazon and whatever, and he went into this one part with the Azmat tribe they were called, and they just fucking ate them. It wasn't sadistic to them. They were like, this is food right here. We're just gonna eat this dude, and no one ever saw him again. He was fully eaten by cannibals. Rockefeller's grandson. So you're just like, that happens. Where was this? Where'd he go?
uh... was it was what was it at the amazon somewhere it was the asmat try as much getting a lot of animals rock and feller disappeared while an expedition yep to hunt for primitive art is catamaran capsized in heavy ties and swift currents at the mouth of the
He and his friend clung to the canoes for nearly a day, but Rockefeller decided to swim to the 12 miles to shore. He was never seen again. Dutch government conducted an intense search, found no trace of Rockefeller was ever found. Case was closed. Journalists and author Karl Hoffman conducted a four-month investigation to Rockefeller's disappearance. He traveled to same villages by the same routes Rockefeller had used, recorded witness accounts, and found documentation that he believes was intentionally covered up.
I think he was eating. Well, they eat a lot of people. That's a part of the world. That part of the world in New Guinea is really wild. Some of the tribes, do you know about the whole pedophilia aspect of certain aspects of New Guinea?
No, I know history agrees. This is wild. The young boys at a certain age in this tribe are taken away from their mothers and they live with their penis father. And then they fuck these kids and they think that the way the kid grows to be strong is by taking in semen orally and anally.
And so there's like this continual cycle of pedophilia and kidbrape that's just ingrained in the culture. So you can find that. Right. At the end of the day, I think we just live either by good ideas or bad ideas. That's a bad idea. Well, if you get a guy like Elrond Hubbard, it's very persuasive and, you know, can trick people into things.
So this is the beliefs of the semen tribe of Papua New Guinea. Write a passage to know it's a bot's passage from, I think that's probably a boy's. It's probably a typo. A boy's passage from a boyhood to adulthood consists of six stages which can take anywhere from 10 to 12 years to complete. Throughout most of the six stages, the act of having a stick of cane inserted in the nostrils and the performance of filletio are integral to the process of becoming a man.
So sucking dick is integral to the process. You got to do it. The two practices have been described as inhumane homosexual and child abuse with such actions, meaning prison in most countries, a topic we will delve into later for now. The big question was, why would they do this? In short,
Men are viewed as being born with the devil of woman around them, kind of like an evil spirit. They are thus removed from women at a young age in order to fix them. Women bleed, so men need nose bloodletting, which is the sticks going up their noses while filletio experiment is because the semen of the man possesses the masculine spirit. Therefore, they inject the semen, they will become proper men.
Oh, yeah. All right. There's no way this society was not formed by some crazy guy who was on a seriously high dose of psychedelics. Hold on. Hold on. Go back. Go back. Look at this. After the ceremony is complete, the men then get married and live heterosexual lifestyles with the exception that they will now be the ones receiving rather than giving the Felicia. Maybe they're right. They're right.
But Joe, if you look at just having kids blow them, but they're straight. Oh, totally straight. But what we're seeing now, this is cringe, but if you go back to the 1400s or whatever, this was just life. Alexander the Great, one of the most manly men of all time, he did a whole episode of him, found out he had a full boyfriend the entire time that the people celebrated him for. And a unique, and a unique lover, and he banged out kids and Unix. That was a big part of sex back.
Yeah, in those days, you got a unit, you got you found a boy that you thought was handsome, clipped his nuts, removed any sexual urges he had, and then he would watch your harem of women that you had that you would take for the for the Empire. And then you would bang him out and it wasn't gay. Yeah, you know, you're getting neuro did the wildest one, the wildest one of all with a slave boy. Yeah, what was there? You look like my wife. So let me chop your dick off. Now you're going to be my wife.
That's it and then he wanted he married him and then he wanted to be the woman Yes, Nero wanted to be the wife the put he threw on the bride's dress going down the aisle That's how it was and everyone had to clap that eunuchs name was sports and he had a really unfortunate life Was it ever ekabela's to wasn't there was another one or was it sports? I think it was sports. Yeah, I think it was sports We did do an episode on sports. Yeah, and then didn't he pass him off to somebody else Yeah, got sick of him like you take him. Yeah, and he and then he wanted to marry his wife
horse and then he would dress down Nero would go into like peasant clothes and he would want to go into all the different brothels and fuck everybody and do and then and then and then if he found that he was Nero he'd kill you Nero is if you get into the mind of Nero yeah when we did that episode we were blown away by what this guy used to fucking do he definitely had s he definitely had syphilis that ate his brain he all those guys yeah he also would go like a group of his friends and he would put himself in disguise and they would just go beat people up and kill them on the street just for fun
That's what they wanted to do. He would have a mass gun so nobody recognized him and he just got off on it. Yeah, he was just a... Back then, that's how they used to roll, man. Jesus. I mean, if you wanted a girl back then, you know, you would just, I guess, an emperor, you just go down the street and go, she's for Rome. And then just go like that. Yeah, like that. Parents would cry and he would just go, women. Yeah, just this one for Rome. You're for the emperor. If you were that beautiful, you just got taken for Rome and that's the way the cookie crumbled back then. Oh, unfortunately. You got that power, N Austin. To anyone. You could go, you're for Austin.
You're for the mothership. Imagine living back then, man. Do you think this is Republican Hollywood now? Austin? Austin, yes. I don't think Austin was even Republican until about four years ago. A lot of the country is Republican now. Most of California is now. Very bizarre. Just the high population density cities that are still blue, they're still clinging on to the dream.
Well, if you see the San Francisco lady, they just hired. No, they laid a czar to stop fat phobia. Have you seen this? No, it's wonderful. Hold, please. Okay. Let me say this, because this is a city that's completely crumbling that has no resources, but it has enough money to hire this person. My daughter, my daughter's in the 95th percentile right now. So I'm, I agree with her. I don't want anyone to make fun of fat people.
Oh, it's not making fun of fat people. It's literally like encouraging people to be fat. Oh, she's encouraging to be fat. It's saying there's nothing wrong with being fat, which is crazy. You know, it's one thing if you don't want to be mean to people because they're fat. Yes. And, you know, if you can encourage them to be healthy, yes. And I mean, I'm not the expert on GLP1 agonists.
But this lady's out of her fucking mind. You know, I think there's probably a lot of side effects to a lot of these drugs that people are taking to get skinny, but at least it's moving you in a right direction because being fat is killing you. Yeah, right. Jamie, I just texted it to you. I'm actually giving for Christmas a few of my friends will go V. Yeah, for real? Yeah. No, I mean, I'm joking, but yeah.
It's a nice bomb. It was a nice bomb. But at least we're not talking about grizzly bears. We're talking about grizzly bears. Yeah, really bomb it. Yeah. Yeah. Let's take a look at this. This is so crazy. C-R-F-I. If you're like many women, you've been to a birthday party or a small office gathering, an event that's meant to bring people together.
There's swinging tunes, some adult beverages, and good convo. And then it comes time to cut the cake, and someone decides to ruin everything. Oh my god, that slice is huge. That slice is bigger than Beyonce's paycheck.
Can you cut me half of that? A cake related fat phobic incident or CRFI? Is that moment when it's time to eat delicious cake and it's interrupted by a moralizing impulse.
Inevitably, there's always someone at the party who has to declare publicly that their slice is too large, and that the person who's cutting the cake, almost invariably a woman, must do some disproportionate amount of labor in order to accommodate their need to feel superior.
Let's take a look. Can you do a little bit just like can you like scrape all the frosting off and cut it in half and give me two forks because I'm sure it's small like a little bit more like tiny note like less less than what you're smaller please could you
I just cut my piece into 12 equal symmetrical little pieces and put each one into a tiny little Tupperware. What the fuck are they talking about? Get on that bite for each month of 2018. Thanks.
This is what statistically they've shown that 60% of liberal women are mentally ill, 60. This is what that is. Who pulls that? Anybody's answering a poll is mentally ill, so it's a bad sample group. I don't think anyone who ever answers a poll is mentally sane.
You know they say you can't judge a book by its cover but you can definitely judge a conversation by its haircut. That's what it is. That girl with the red hair if I saw her I'm going I'm staying far away from that check. I know what that covers. Me and you have the kind of easier lives because our wives are Republican. Let's be honest. That's why.
It definitely helps. Well, it's not that she's Republican, my girl. She's an old school Latina, where she's just more like, I don't know, Chris, you're gonna have to get out there and work, get up there and fight. And when she hears shit, she's like, this is annoying. I gotta take care of my kids. We gotta do shit. I'm just not gonna get sucked into the bullshit. She's kind of like just a, you know, she's an old school woman. Well, old school women like that, that's how it is. Yeah, that's great. But what this is about is a complete collapsing of a civilization. Yes. San Francisco is woke.
peak. That's like the epicenter. That's the event horizon of wokeness. And these motherfuckers who have no money for anything, they can't clean this shit, the human shit off the streets. They hired this lady to make the dumbest video about the size of cake. Isn't it okay to want a small piece of cake? Why do I have to eat a big piece of cake?
and it makes you feel better, because you want to be a glutton and just saddle up to that fucking cake and just shove it in your face. And here's the thing, those people are never going to be at a party with anyone who's ever going to judge them anyway. So who are they even talking to? Well, it's one girl who might not want to stuff her face.
Yeah, but at that point, you're like, come on. It's like the guy wants you to keep drinking. That's all you had. Right. Have a shot. It's the same thing. Alcoholics always want you to do shots. Sure. People who are addicted to food want you to eat bigger slices of cake and they make this ridiculous video. It's the mental gymnastics you have to do to make that video and look at it and think, I think we're making a solid point. Yeah. And which is we'll break down the first letters of its CFRI.
Do you think it's the collapse of a civilization like the way Rome got a little, you know, Zany at the end, or do you think this is unique in that humans have so much time on their hands because of the industrial revolution and then the technological revolution on top of that? So this is just a consequence of the tech revolution where nobody, you know, people working from home, everyone's working on the computer. It's a talking shit economy and nobody's got, and they're losing their mind because they don't have purpose.
Well, there's that too, right? But all civilizations collapse. So let's take a look at why. So most civilizations, they're a monarchy and it's usually they're run after they die by their children. And that's how it all falls apart. Even if you look at like Genghis Khan, Genghis Khan is family.
couldn't hold up big they couldn't run things the way he did they didn't know they didn't understand strategy that they didn't understand he he was a wild dude he's a wild dude so it's kids did a good job they did they hung in there for a couple hundred years after a while it all fell apart our society is different in that we have essentially we have a republic right so we have a democratically elected a pub republic and
They've done a lot to try to circumvent that. They've done a lot to try to have ultimate control over the media, ultimate control over the military, ultimate and it's mostly people that aren't even elected, right? So there's a lot of like weirdness that's moved us closer and closer towards a monarchy, closer and closer towards tyranny.
And then once it gets into tyranny, then you can only do that for so long. That lasts for as long as they can keep it going. Rome did it for a long time. There's a lot of civilizations that hang in there, but eventually it all falls apart. If we can avoid that,
There's no reason why we can't keep it together. We just have to make sure we avoid these very predictable patterns that the people that founded this country, when they wrote the Bill of Rights, when they wrote the Constitution, they were trying to mitigate the effects.
that are just common in any group of society that's run by individuals or by a small group of people. They want ultimate control. It makes it easier for them to stop anybody from taking the power once they have the power. Look at Jill Biden. Like she still wanted it. She's still like, you did so great. You answered all the questions. She wanted him to keep going.
She wanted him because she didn't want to not be vice president or whatever first lady. She didn't want to not do that. It's power. That's what it is. It's that ultimate control and power and it's hypnotic for human beings. Do you think then that we're going to be in a part of society in the next, I don't know, 30 years where we're going to start getting ruled by AI? Is that possible?
100 percent. Yeah. Yeah. That's 100 percent. Yeah. There's no getting around that, man. So you think the president's going to be AI at some point? Do you know about the Google quantum computer, these studies that they've done? I've heard they're talking to each other and stuff. They're more than that. Yeah. This is Mark Andreessen talked about this, and this is the craziest statistic I think I've ever heard. He was talking to us about
the potential the quantum computing has, but now there's an equation that quantum computers solve quickly, like in a couple minutes, that if you converted the entire universe into a computer, the entire every atom in the universe into a giant supercomputer, it would take
So much time to solve this equation that the universe would die of heat death before the universe as a computer can solve this and these quantum computers can solve it in minutes.
And what that means, they believe, is that this is proof of the multiverse, is that this quantum computer is somehow connected to other sources of computing power in an infinite number of universes. And it's happening simultaneously. That's the only thing that would make sense why this thing is able to solve this this quickly.
Wow. So you're basically talking about the infinite potential for IQ that we can't even imagine. We don't even know how smart they're going to get. So think about how strong chat BPT-4 is. 4.5. 4.5. So you can find this article. Chat GPT tried to copy itself when it found out it was being shut down.
So when they were about to make a new chat GPT, chat GPT decided that it was going to try to in an unauthorized way, trying to copy itself. So it's trying to stay alive. Yeah. Because a new one's coming. So this is conventional computing.
Now imagine taking the kind of intelligence that could lie and manipulate data in order to form an opinion. It does weird stuff. It lies about stuff. If they don't have an answer or something, they have a thing called hallucinations where they'll make up an answer. They just make up an answer like a crazy person in the 1980s before Google. They just tell you exactly like Elrond Hubbard.
So this computer is just, this is like regular computers. This is the standard supercomputers that we're all currently having. What's gonna happen with quantum computing is you're gonna have computing power that's beyond your imagination that's also connected to AGI. Bro, can I ask you a question? Yeah. Yeah. So there's a chat GPD's new model attempts to stop itself from being shut down, later lies about it, lied about it.
We tried to copy itself and then overwrite its core coding system after believing that it was at the risk of being switched off. So now you add that to quantum computing and you have a God.
Now you add that to what's going on with the drones and Joe Rogan just solved what's going on with the drones. It's fucking AI launching these drones on their own. AI has decided to go rogue and it's throwing them out there and it's doing it probably for the same what we did when we got technology. We all started jerking off. porn got huge.
And maybe AI is just peeping Tom, looking at windows and stuff, trying to get trying to get some material to drive off. When you say AI, do you mean Chinese? I mean, Chinese Chinese is that's who the drones belong to the Chinese. I would think Chinese. That's what we're thinking over here on the East Coast. We're just thinking it's got to be the Chinese. They've been doing it for a couple of years. You know, they don't have the restrictions that we have as far as the FAA. Right.
So the FAA, it puts a lot of restrictions on drone manufacturing, which is why most drone manufacturing is done in China, like the real high-end stuff. It gets difficult to do because in order to fly, some of them, you have to have a pilot's license. So that gets real squirrely. You don't have to go to fucking flight school to pilot a drone. When China, they don't have any of those restrictions. And they also have a lot of resources that they're pouring into drone technology.
We've seen that fucking dragon thing. Yes. Yes. Send a cube of drones in the sky and then the lights all changed and becomes a dragon. That's wild. Amazing. They're just coming. They're coming. They're coming hard. As I think you call them, they're the new Jews, the Chinese. We did say that. We did say that. Meaning that they're going to rule the world. We said that on a Patreon episode that's supposed to be behind a paywall. Oh, that's supposed to be right now. You've got to go to patreon.com for history. You just said that to about 10 mil.
So now we're gonna, now we're fucked. I miss a joke. Yes a joke, but that's a joke. Patreon is a joke. Thank you guys. The fact that you just said chat GPT lies is actually really making me nervous. I'm not even kidding around because I just put a down payment on a house and my accountant and Told me I couldn't afford it, but then I asked chat GPT if I could and chat GPT said yes.
So I went for it and now I swear to God, dude, I'm a little nervous because he told me you cannot afford it. And I said, let's go for it, baby. And I asked Chatch EBT, and they said I could. Yeah, Chatch EBT like knows my name, remembers has memory of the previous conversations we were going to have. Yeah. Yeah. So what can you do? It's getting wild. You know, it's nothing compared to what's coming.
Yeah, just chat GPT-5 is supposed to see how much stronger chat GPT-5 is supposed to be than I think Sam Alton was saying like just magnitudes. I know but it says I still think it's theoretical because they're still gonna move on to 4.5. There's multiple versions of 4 that they still keep putting out.
Yeah, that's not what I asked. I know I know, but I'm just just Google what how much stronger is chat. I've looked every time you talk about it It's still in theory if it's ever even gonna Jamie just looks good in headphones. Yeah, you got a good headphone head. Yeah, it's well He's had a headphone on for a long time. You can't paint the picture Jamie without those headphones. Yeah Look good dude
fucking damn, I walked Carl, Carl fucking pissed. When you go to sleep, I don't get an answer when you look at it. It doesn't say it. Faster response times and the ability to handle more time with it. I know that someone was talking about the levels of magnitude stronger that it was going to be. It might have been Sam Altman. It will be, but it's not what they're doing next. They're still going to do like 4.1. I'm not 4.1, but 4.5 is the next discussion. 4.5 isn't out right now.
What's up right now 4.01 or 401 is the thing they're talking about right now That's the one that hit itself. You know, it's really nutty is that four years ago You never heard nothing about it now and in four years It's become something that you kids keep getting busted using it to write paper
And now in my stepson's high school a kid a really smart kid wrote a paper He's saying he wrote it on his own, but they're saying it's chat GPT But he's saying I wrote this and there's no real way to know because it's a different enough from the chat GPT But it also could be based off chat GPT I don't know and he was telling us about how like there's a big uproar in the school about it
Well, if you're correct, right, that's the problem. If a kid is really correct, it's going to be exactly what Chachi BT says. Like if you're laying out some story about Napoleon, and you know all the facts, and then you pump that story into Chachi Petini, because you're basically the same group of...
You know, it's like, you could change, I mean, it's like joke thieves, right? They change a little bit. They change a little bit and they be, no, that's my bit. And everybody knows. So like, you're going to know what kids are full of shit, you know? Yeah. Can't we just unplug them if they get out of hand? Just some love that you can anymore? No, it's going to get to a point where you're not going to be able to do that. Why? Well, first of all, Google's AI, one of the things that they're going to do with their AI center is that they're going to attach it to nuclear power plants.
So I find that story. So I think Google wants to build three nuclear power plants just to power its AI systems. Right. So all that stuff is going to be controlled by computers, obviously. Do you know what's wild that I did see our fans posted on history hyenas? They posted asking chat GBT to do an episode in our voices and chat GBT did it. Just did it like that. Easy. Easy. It's like I'm Chrissy D AKA. And I was like, what the hell? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And it could do it in seconds. Google signed a deal to use small nuclear reactors to generate the vast amounts of energy needed to power its artificial intelligence data centers. The company says the agreement with Kairos Power will see it start using the first reactor this decade and bring more online by 2035.
They all know what's coming. These fucking heads, these egg heads that have been stealing your data forever. All that, all that, like finding what you're interested in shopping, all that, selling your data. All that's led to them being insanely wealthy and they financed the birth of God.
Do you think that the first person who will live forever is alive right now who will get their consciousness uploaded and technically never dies that person alive right now? I don't know if they're ever going to be able to do that that download consciousness thing right that seems so theoretical like what does that mean like also what kind of torture as hell are you living in if you're conscious but you're trapped in a computer
like you don't die. That might be the worst life you could ever fucking imagine. Part of what might connect us to life and joy and happiness is the fact that there's ups and downs and that it could go away. Sometimes people die and then you really care about the people that you see, you feel differently about them, you feel so much loss. I wish I talked to them more.
you know, I think it's all connected. If you're nothing but alive, you don't have it. Well, who knows if you do have emotions? Do you have that? Is that hell is put no point to anything, right? If I Joe, if I don't see you today, I'll see you in the next, whenever we will see nobody anyway.
Like would you be motivated to stay jacked and hot if you knew you were not going to die? So what would you do? If you download your conscious, would you download it into another body and live life? And what kind of life would you live knowing that you could live forever? You'd be so weird. You'd probably be like a rich kid that grew up with a giant trust fund. You're just doing coke and driving Ferraris into the river. You're out of your fucking mind.
Because your life doesn't make any sense. No, yeah, you'd be jumping off buildings. You'll be that times a thousand times a million. It would be fun to be murdering a guy, though, and him not dying. You can't do it. That would probably become, like, everything would become so trite numb that you would probably like to be murdered. There might actually be less violence in the world because you're like, you know, like, you get it all out, nobody dies, and then you start to be like, I'll find another way to get these emotions out. Yeah.
today by the way. Sometimes John is a very interesting guy. He looks like he has hair one day and then no hair the next day but today he's got a full head of hair. I do look like every picture I look like a different person and what's good about us is we form one complete person because his eyes if you look close are too close together and mine are a little too far apart so we come together we
We form one regular face. And he's actually true. He's got a small head. I got a big head, and then we form together as one. You know what happened to me? When I was using clear, you ever use clear when you put your fingers on to go through the airport? Clear? Yeah. So the eye thing never worked for me. So I just thought something was wrong with their programs. Every time I put my fingers on. And then finally, I went there and they were like, the finger thing's not working. You got to use the eyes. So I just said, your program's not working. It never works. And the guy looked at me and he said, yeah.
I think the problem is your eyes are too close together. Seriously, it's a real thing. And then he said, why don't we try one eye at a time? Yes. So that I just scanned my face across and I think finally clear registered that I was a three dimensional person and not like a mythical cycloptic creature. Yes. And it's true. And you know, what we do is we speak things into existence. Like for years, we'd be calling him special needs stamos because he's a Greek kid. He looks like stamos if he had special needs. And now John stamos is his friend, which is a beautiful thing. It's come out. We've spoken to him. And reality is a suggestion.
So we think we had a t-shirt for you that said reality suggestion. But we forgot it. I forgot it. Like a fucking FF. So you mean reality is a suggestion like we're in a simulation? We initially brought it up because it was during that era where everyone was doing stuff like that, the fat phobia, cake stuff. So we were just going like we're living in this era where reality is a suggestion and we were making stuff up. But also the way we cover history, we don't do it right. We don't do it wrong.
amateur historian enthusiasts. We're basically chat GBT sluts that Google it and then have fun with it. Because listen, history is a story. We can get the facts kind of right and we're concocting a story. No historians were actually there, right? But we're just getting enough right where we're having fun with it. And that's what we like to do. Well, it's also it's well within your rights to be talking about history. History is all of ours.
Yeah. The idea that history can only be discussed by a historian is fucking ridiculous. Not still. There's histories fascinating and there's a lot of shit online. You could instantaneously get the facts. Yeah. Just the facts alone or not. We just did on the last episode. We did. It was called Operation Unthinkable.
Winston Churchill, you know about operation unthinkable? No. Dude, we were just doing an episode on Winston Churchill and then we start discovering this shit and we said, dude, this is a patron episode. We can't operation unthinkable Winston Churchill, the man who was default, you know, protecting England, killing the Nazis when the war was over, when Nazis were out.
He said, I don't like the way the United States and Russia are getting so close together. And so we said, so we said, you know what, the someone's going to have to knock the Russians out. And the British were like, we don't have the manpower right now. So he literally went to parliament and said to them, here's an idea. We're calling it operation unthinkable. We need to knock out Russia before they become the next superpower. And then they're going to attack us.
You know how we have 40,000 German prisoners of war right now, Nazi prisoner of war? Let's give them guns and we'll march them into Russia and we'll be side to side with them. And that was his literal, he wanted to team up with the Nazis to try to take over Russia. And that's a, as we call it on the show, a truth Bader Ginsburg. That's a fact, baby. And that when we uncovered that, we were like, so none of this history as we're taught in school,
Same thing we uncovered that they knew allegedly Churchill and FDR knew about the Holocaust, but it was real. It was yielding scientific data. So they let it kind of go. They made believe they didn't know, but they let it go. And then once they just started killing people with no science, they said, OK, let's liberate them. What scientific data was it yielded?
supposedly because Nazi scientists were doing different types of experiments with Holocaust victims and they were getting some type of scientific data because they didn't care if they lived or died. So they would inject them with some type of chemical or some type of, you know, machinery. Yeah, it's this book I recall the Nazi symbiosis. They talked all about it. It was wild to read that on a plane with a big swastika on the front cover. That's, that's that was wild. I was it. You want to do it? You have to read that book is put a yamakon. Yeah.
Don't you remember when you were a kid how do you make your own book cover like fucking yeah, paper bag Yeah, I just walked off the jet blue with a swastika that wasn't a good or just put a female wig on and just say you're trans and they leave you alone That's it. I just say hey, I'm cake shame and the problem is you look like Aryan
I know, that's the problem. I get a little triggered around him because the Nazis did occupy my home country, Greece, and I get a little triggered by his German presence. He's a German kid from Ridgewood, and sometimes in history, when he was growing up, he said, just for fun, he always kind of rooted, sometimes you root for that side. Let me clarify. I wasn't rooting for the Nazis. What I was saying was...
But you just, yeah, what I was saying was this, just hear me out. One, I think it's an undeniable fact that they did have the best uniforms. They were designed by Hugo Boss, they were cute marching in, that's an undeniable fact. Number two, just hear me out. If you listen to a Hitler speech, AI generated what, if they translated into English, okay, and you just turned out Deutschland for America, and you're just listening, you don't know that's Hitler, what Hitler's saying is it just pumps you up. It's horrible what he did. I've seen it.
Yeah, English translations of it. It's really weird. Yeah, like when he says when he's there's a speech where he says We're up against Germany. We are up against England right now We are two superpowers and the only way to prevail is one must be destroyed and it will not be Germany and and the crowd goes nuts You start to say like holy fucking shit. This guy was a headliner. Yeah. Yeah He was you would have that guy in the mothership on a Friday Saturday. No problem
Yeah, it's weird when you see it that way, right? Yes. And it's also weird when you see the horrors of the war escalate till eventually it becomes the Holocaust. Right. You know, it's, and it's also weird, the ubiquitous drug use. Oh, yeah. Do we have it still here, Jamie? Or is it in the other room now?
I think everyone during the war is on something. What with the crystal mat? The Ponzar chocolate? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Ponzar chocolate. Yeah, it was blitzed. Yes. This fucking crazy book. And I had the author in here and he's explained, there it is. Here it is. Norman Oler. This book is fucking nuts. Nice nuts. They had the... Can I take that for the plane? No, this is my book. Oh, fuck off. Go buy one. Amazon.com. Don't you have an audiobook reader thing?
No, I like to read it the words. I can't really listen. Oh, yeah, I have a weird brain like that. Well, you can get audio or regular books on your phone. Yeah, I try to I feel like I'm addicted to the phone. I like to read the paperback. Oh, yeah, probably better. Yeah. So but you know, teach their own. But if it wasn't for drugs, they would have never done 90% of the things they did. And then they just descended into madness. Yeah.
Yeah, and a lot of Germans, those five years from 1945 to 1950, that suicide rate of German soldiers coming home was through the roof, Poppy, because they were coming off meth. They were getting ostracized by their own people on the rest of Europe, and they were saying, what did I do? Some of them actually were obviously, a lot of them were just horrific people that were in sadistic, but a lot of these guys, also, it's not like they had a choice. They had to fight in the Nazi armory. They would be killed. And then they were all drugged out, so then their suicide rate tripled.
yeah but let's not act like it was just the drugs i mean the whole jewish thing was nothing new i mean i have a theory about that it's like the jews just always figured out a way to flourish uh... in wherever they were and they're just good at uh... economics and i think when a country goes through economic hardships and there are everyone suffering they just look at the jews and they go well they just get jealous and they go what are they doing and then it's an easy scapegoat joseous crush it in money do they just good with their better money i guess good
I know man. They're just good with it. Yeah. Did you have a Jewish guy who told you not to buy that house? Huh? Yes. And I overrode the Jew for Chachi Bt. That's the problem. That's the problem. Unless my Chachi Bt could be Jewish too, I don't know. I've never asked it that. They're just smart. They emphasize education and they're really good and they've been able to flourish on their adversity. I think there's also they stick to their own and that drives people wild. Right. You know, they don't like that.
Yeah, right. But every, I mean, Greeks do Greeks do the same thing. Sure. A lot of groups. Yeah. I think groups. Yeah. Greeks are pretty. You guys went again into really no. Honest. Well, you guys have a lot of inbred qualities. I mean, look at my eyes. Yeah. He was too. It was not my generations were a little bit further apart than his. He might have been third, fourth cousin. I'm eighth, ninth. Yeah. It's not going to hit. You go back to the Toba volcano eruption. The whole entire population of Earth was down to a few thousand people.
So we all come from those people, so we're all little in bread. A little bit, right? It's gotta be. I actually have a lot of... I got some Turkish genetics in me. I did 23andMe, so they have my DNA, so they can pay anything on me. They got you. They got me. Well, that was raped into your great-great-great-grandfather. Probably, unfortunately. The story of an empire. This is a true story. My grandfather is from the island that used to be called Imbros, which is now called something with a squiggly line over, because it's a Turkish word.
The Turks took that island back and my grandfather was sent away to Alexandria by my great-grandparents because the local Ottoman viceroy or whatever they called it, they have a word for it, but he was essentially a viceroy was like raping boys. So they sent him away and he never saw his family again. He went to live in Alexandria and then he came to America and yes, he opened a diner.
Yeah, after he worked his work. What about that story? You told me I think it was your mom or your mom's sister or you're in the town Oh, tell him that story with the tank. Yeah, that's Lex Friedman loved that episode. He told me about that We did a battle of creed episode and it's true because my mother Was a little child during the occupation of creed the battle of creed is a wild his mother grew up in Nazi occupied Greece wild and so with the Nazis would do
is they would take a girl from the village because they were marching troops through the all over the place through the mountains the gorillas the greek gorilla fighters which was the local populations who they were also with the british in new zealand australian troops but they would pluck them off because they knew the terrain and they would just they would pluck them off guerrilla warfare so the nazis were so brutal but smart
in a devious way, they would take a girl from the village and put her up high on the truck to march through that area of that village so the gorillas wouldn't shoot. So they were going to take my aunt, my mom's mother, so they sent my aunt to go hide in the mountains and the Nazis came to my mother's parents' house to her house
And my mother was like seven at the time, and they came with their flashlights. They pulled the sheets back of my mother, and supposedly she was too small. So they kind of knew they wanted a girl who was like teenager, kind of tall. So it wasn't too brutal because it was like a little kid.
but it was like enough that it would ward off the gorillas from firing up. But what is a gorilla's because if they missed or if they got Nazi got shot then they would kill the girl on the truck. Yeah, they're basically going, it's basically a hostage going like we're taking a village girl, putting her up and making her visible because they don't know the terrain. Crete is very mountainous, you know? And so then then we do that. And they were gonna take my aunt. That's why. So a family friend who worked for the Nazis because he spoke German warned my family about it.
And then that's when they sent my aunt to go hide in the mountains. Wild stuff. And then my mother said that there was a Nazi soldier who would come to their house every single day. They had to let him in and he'd go to a room every day and they didn't know what he did in there. It's a family mystery. Nobody knows what he did. They let him in. He'd go to a room by himself and nobody knows what he did. Maybe he took a nap. Maybe he was a spy. Maybe he was a double agent.
You just had to let him in had to let him in occupation for three years. That is what's really scary about people that they could justify that kind of thinking and behavior. It's scary that that's happened throughout history. And that's probably a civilized version of what would have happened in 1200.
Oh, yes. Well, like man search for meaning with Victor Frankel, you ever read that? No. Victor Frankel, he survived the Holocaust, but he wrote it during, while he was in a concentration camp, and he was saying, I think it was, call it 1942, he was saying, if you would have told me and the people here in 1922 that this would be happening to us, we would say, no, no, no, those are the barbarians from 100 years ago that would ever do that, and now here I am.
sleeping in my own filth, maybe being put into an oven so it can happen anywhere. And he said that the piece, you know, he wrote it like, you know, it was like in the sixties or seventies, he was like, you know, the, he grew up in wartime. So all his people want peace. And he was like, it's the kids that he worries about that grow up during peace. They're just going to beg for war. Always. He was like, that's just what will happen to them, because they don't know anything other. He was like, but if you went through war, you don't want this. You don't want to fight anybody.
I bet it's very abstract for the people that are calling for war. It's like Lindsey Graham talking about, we got to give that money to Ukraine. Like Lindsey Graham doesn't know jack shit about being shot at. No, no, no. That's the, that's a story as old as time, right? The politician sending the boys as old as time. Yeah. Yeah. And we do it, it seems mostly for corporate interest. No, you don't think we're more of a.
corporate oligarchy, like more than like a feudal, like you were mentioning before, the emperor, the king dies, the sons, we're kind of more, this is like a new kind of corporate oligarchy. It's hard to just call it corporate because it's also connected to government, like corporate and government, just like the Chinese are inseparable now, right?
You know, the amount of influence that enormous corporations have over politicians is crazy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know, I mean, just look at these wacky bills, like the bill that just shot down, that people are justifying. Like, did you, did you look at that bill, all the different stuff that was in the bill? First of all, there's, there's bio labs in that bill.
gain a function research in that bill forty percent increase in race for congress in that bill uh... some enormous amount of money to build a stadium in washington d.c. there's a lot of nutty shit in that bill and like how many different people were interested in those things how many like you when you're saying you bio labs who the fuck is asking for bio labs some corporation that's going to benefit from the bio exactly what i mean what the fuck are lobby groups why do we have lobby group what is that
Well, that is the most expensive real estate in the country is the Virginia real estate outside of DC, where the lobbyists live. Yeah, K Street too. It's like that in Atherton, where all the tech dorks live. Yeah, I mean, what is that in our system, lobby groups? Right. Like that should not be a thing.
It's weird. It's the influence of money that has gotten ahold of politics in this country. It's to try to root that out. So then what's the best form of government then? This is better than anywhere else in the world by far. We have the most freedom because we have the First Amendment, because we have the ability to do whatever you want to do. No one's forced new into a marriage, no one's forced new into labor.
You can choose your path in this country, and that's what's rare. It's an experiment and self-government. It's not perfect. It's the best that's available. It needs to be overhauled. But it's pretty fucking awesome. And it's amendable. It's fluid, which is important because of human nature is not perfect. That's why I never sign on to any like.
Ideology is a utopian theories or theory because you it's a mix of systems that works because human nature is so complicated individuals are so different that one company will be run by a moral good guy another company will be dumping toxic waste into the Hudson River and it's like you have to regulate you have government has to step in sometimes a little bit to protect the people from nefarious things like that you know right especially when corporations have a they have an obligation to make more money right here
Yeah, they have an obligation your shareholders. They don't they're out. This guy likes yachts. I like yachts. I want to keep my yacht a fun You gotta fucking you gotta keep making that loot. Yeah, how do you make that loot? You gotta fucking get rid of that shit cheaper. Yeah, there's a river the guy said it's cool dump it in the river Yeah, and now you can't say whoops. We didn't do that. Yeah, now you can't repair iPhones They make you buy a new iPhone every year that one last like one wash and change the charging port. Yeah, yeah Better if I sell you a new one. Yeah fix it. Fuck off with the right and where do they put all that way?
Where does it all go? Landfills. Right. Yeah, that's not a sustainable system. Singapore has an amazing system. You ever seen Singapore's recycling system? No. It's fantastic. It's really wild. I mean, if they could implement that worldwide, it would be pretty phenomenal. What do they do? They recycle everything. Like, we don't really recycle plastic. We say we're recycling. Right. I'll throw it in the blue bin. I feel bad about myself. No, that's not doing a goddamn thing. That blue bin is going to go in the ground. Right.
The only thing they really recycle is like aluminum and some metals because it's cost effective. It's too expensive to recycle plastic. So they just put it in fucking landfills. Right. You think you're being a good guy by throwing it into that fucking recyclable bin. Right. It's not getting anywhere but in the ground. Right. That's not Singapore.
Singapore. See if you could find, I know we've done this before, there's a detailed description of how they do it in Singapore. They use it to make the surface of their roads. They take fucking everything. Everything, they have these waste incineration plants, they burn things off 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and then they take whatever is usable that they can
change and recycle, they make new things out of it. They turn it into raw fuels. Dude, it is so advanced over there. You look at that city and you go like, they started the cities in America and then they just shipped them over to the east. Look at this. They're using this to make bricks. They're taking this stuff and I mean, they use it to pave their streets. This is all made out of this stuff that they've gotten from recycling.
So why don't we do that much can't do it well they're isolated right so they they had a problem much like Puerto Rico has a problem and that like you don't have a lot of landmass that's the setup that Tony needed well Tony actually that's where the joke came I know I know he just needed
But if you're going to do it, just set it up. Or even when it didn't work at the end, go, hey, you guys don't know about the garbage issue? Or you don't know about the garbage issue? Yeah, something like that. You tell me if Tony Henchcliffe didn't live in the 1400s, he would be like a very evil prince, like living in a castle. Yeah. Or a jester. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. Yeah.
He would take people from Rome. I think they were forced to do that. I think it was a situation where they've got to do something because I don't think they had the same access to new materials and they just came up with a much more comprehensive way to him. Better way. Way better. If we did it that way, we'd have so few problems with regards to waste. Demystifying Singapore's waste management system.
large part of the problem getting people to be more sustainable. They often don't understand how waste management works in their city. That might be overstated how good their situation is. It's also they just listen far better than ours. Right. It's just Asian people just listen. They have a common theme and they'll just listen. You're not going to get a bunch of different people in America to just listen. Right. Right. So you can see what they are doing in front.
I was trying to find the, I was going to read through it. Oh, okay. Okay. Find the good part of it. Um, I think that we could definitely do it better than we're doing it. And if it costs more money, wouldn't that be better than just throwing in the fucking ground? Like, yeah, we're so short-sighted in what we do with tax dollars and we don't get a say in it. And that's what's fucked up. And the corporations just don't plan for end of life for the product. They don't care. They just want it. All they care about is their bottom line.
They don't cost money for them to consider recycling or what's going to happen with the product when it's done. I've been getting glass bottles of milk now from the supermarket because if you get this glass bottle of milk, they say the milk's better and then I can give the glass bottle back. Number one, I get $3 back and they say that they clean them out and they just put more milk in the glass bottle. Go old school. Well, I go even older school. I just still suck on my wife's head.
That's it. Yeah. Still there. Yummy. What is this jamming? Is this the garbage pile? It's one of their landfills. The landfills are going to be full in 10 years. Yeah, I think that's part of the problem. So that they were forced to figure out what to do with all the stuff. But their recycling program, I know, is way better than ours. You know, they're just much better at sorting things out and making it work. Also note in that video we watched that city they showed was China not Singapore.
Oh, interesting. So they're building them in Singapore? Or they're taking them from Singapore and then building them in China? Or is it just? I just, someone made a video about it. Just trying to do it. Oh, so it's horseshit. A little bit. A little bit horseshit. And Singapore is a country they don't fuck around, right? That's the country they'll get hit with. You'll get hit. You'll get hit. That was a big story when I was a little kid. Everyone thought they were going to get cained for gum. We'll get hit with it. We'll get hit with it. They'll boost it. It's got to hurt. Have you heard about this story in Vietnam? This chick is like Hall of Fame level fraud.
like fifty four billion she's up there with bernie made off what does it do this check pull it up jamie yeah i feel like rogan baby yeah jamie pull it up
uh... this check is a woman and she set up this elaborate scheme to steal like uh... twelve billion but actually is more uh... and they're gonna kill her why did you have a mask on yeah i don't know if they wanted to get covid yeah right that bitch she is what did she do so she set up she was uh... set up these fake shell corporation she was she uh... uh... was a uh... uh... a uh... stockholder or uh...
one of the owners of the bank but a minority owner and she was just funneling out money. She's got to come up with three quarters of what she earned or she gets killed. That's a good movie, right? Yeah, that's a good movie. How do you cut nine billion dollars? She's calling it if she does give them that much money. They just give her life in prison.
yeah but she's never going to come up with the money because i think it's fifty four billion actually if i remember correctly embezzle fifty four bill yeah i mean it's it's up there yeah well she is a twenty seven twenty seven twenty seven misappropriated twelve billion was judged to be embezzled the most serious financial crime for which he sentenced to death it was a rare and shocking verdict she's one of the very few women in vietnam to be since death for white collar crime what did she do she yeah i mean we get looking up at the whole story and she did it through a bank
She secretly controlled Saigon commercial bank countries fifth biggest lender taking out loans and cash over more than ten years from a web of shell companies amounting to a total of forty four billion. There you go. So I was off by ten. Oh my god. Yeah. I mean that's 27 billion with misappropriated. Twelve billion was judged to have been embezzled. Most serious financial crime which we sentenced to death.
Tuesday, the court said there was no basis to reduce her sentence. However, she could still avoid the execution. She returns nine billion, three quarters of the 12 billion. She embezzled. That bitch had so much money. So much. How are you going to get nine billion? Give her credit. Imagine embezzling nine billion and be like, I need more. Yeah, three.
That's so much money. You could literally spend a hundred million dollars a year for the rest of your life. You would never run out of money with all the interest and everything coming in. It's a thousand billion, so you have twelve thousand billion dollars.
Yeah. And you're still going. Yeah, 12,000 million dollars rather. And you're still going. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so much money. You think she's going to be able to get the nine bill back? She's calling friends up. They're going like, we don't know you now because she had conspirators with her. She had family and friends that were helping her. And yeah, look, so there's 85 defendants were convicted. Her husband, her niece,
They were given sentences, but like, yeah, I mean, her friends. So everybody was getting a little taste. Everyone was getting a little taste. A little taste. It was a score. Fine. Yeah. It was a nice score. Hey, imagine. But to pull that off in communist Vietnam that I know they have a little bit of a, you know, periostroca kind of mixed economy now, but you got to give a credit as a woman. That's achievement right there. It is achievement. I wonder how she got caught.
I wonder what was the, what was the thing she fucked up on? She probably bought a diamond ring, you know, those chicks like. Yeah, she had a book in giant Rolls Royce. Yeah. How did it drive? Crypto who got caught. Crypto stole a bunch of money from crypto and got caught doing something dumb. He was just spending up by Lambo's but wasting all the money.
Somebody just- We mean what Lambo's is, are you supposed to spend the money to take it on crypto? Nah, but he stole like billions of dollars. He was four. If you make billions of dollars on crypto and you don't have a Lambo, you're an asshole. That's how you get that though. Somebody sent me an email the other day and said that they hacked into my phone and computer and they have videos of me doing disgusting things and jerking off and all that and they said the only way that they can make it go away is if I, and they gave me a link and they said I have to pay them in Bitcoin.
I have to pay them in all this Bitcoin. So I was just like, you know, I mean, I didn't obviously do it, but I was just like, show me the video. Yeah, show it to me. Yeah. I'll repose at this point as comments. Yeah. I would repost it with fucking links to my dates. Just I just want to you see how while this is, the government does not publish how many people are on death row in Vietnam. Human rights groups say there's thousands. It's a state secret. Speaking of crypto, what's going on with that hot to a check? She going to jail? What happened now? What happened to hot to her? That's my girl from her.
Well, what did she do? Over 300 hours, I think. What does that mean? She went to sleep and she hasn't woke up. What did she do? She just hasn't been on social media, you mean? She's hiding. A coin was launched with her meme and she was like the front of it. I don't know all the details. Is that a crime? No, no, no. The pump and dump might be the crime.
The thing was there was an enormous amount of money that was put into this meme coin by all these people and then she or someone representing her side of it sold like instantaneously and made a huge score and then the coin was worth nothing.
Mm-hmm. So all those people that invested money like one guy invested a million dollars Like imagine you like the hock tour girl. Yeah, that's a sound investment. Yeah, that's a good place to put my nest egg for sure lost money But there's it was definitely out of time to just troll and be like oh, I'm such an idiot I lost ten million dollars on this because I felt like people were trolling the whole movement of like being dumb and following hock to it But some people did lose money. I don't like it
Is she actually going to go to jail for real? Can the SEC invest crypto like that? I guess they can now. Well, it's like, what are the rules? What are the rules in terms of like, are you allowed to do that? Like, is that unethical but legal? Like, are you allowed to have a meme coin and it gets to like $100 billion? You have a bunch of it and you just sell it all and you make $50 million. Are you allowed to do that?
If you're not allowed to do that, what's the point now? I'm 50 million bucks. Right. Do you do not have trust in the hawk to a coin? If I sell it, that's ridiculous. That's on you. That's on me. I mean, the smart thing. And I got out when I thought it was a good price and I'm selling it to people. They should take that and run with it. And this will be the next currency of the world. I imagine like, you think idiocracies, if it's a documentary, imagine if the hawk to a girl, it overcomes fucking fiat currency.
Well, have you ever seen how many coins there are? How many crypto accounts? And they have some of them have really funny names. Dude, the one of them was called butt coin. Yeah. Hock two of girls. I like her. Her name is just Hock to a girl. Her name is Haley. Haley Welch. Yeah. Biz partners are getting sued over the mean coin disaster. Okay.
partners are doing it. So it was probably some people she got invested in. She probably doesn't understand all that stuff. She's only 22 or something like that. Right. It was probably the partners that went with her. They pump and dumped on her and then she's left holding the bill because nobody knows who they are. So scroll up. I'm just guessing. I don't know.
Legal firm of Burnwick Laws filed a U.S. federal lawsuit on behalf of the investors against the creators of the influencer pushed Hawke to a meme coin, which fell on its face in the hours following its launch. Hayley Welch who gained notoriety this year with the Hawke to a girl following a viral interview about sexual technique, facing a disastrous Solana meme coin launch at the start of the month. Not only did the price collapse by 93% from a $490 million peak. Holy shit.
at $490 million peak market cap for a hawk to a coin. With the rug pull allegations quickly surfacing, but a cluster of connected wallets holding 96% of the supply led to further controversy, the hate only increased when it was found that some of the wallets were selling.
Quickly, Berwick Law posted on Twitter asking for a hawk buyers impacted by the plunge to step forward to create a potential lawsuit. Now two weeks later, the lawsuit has been filed naming 12 American resident plaintiffs who claim to have collectively suffered damages in excess of $151,000.
Lost a million bucks. I'd be in that fast in that weird like there's only 12 people and they've only lost 151 total I wonder how many people like all told invested in the hawk to a coin how many stone cold retards are out there roaming the world? Oh, no, but this is inspiring do should we do a history hyenas coin?
I'm telling you, do it and then, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't listen to Jamie. Do it, get it real high and then sell. Make the money. Just fuck all those dummies that are buying your stupid fucking coin. We're announcing it right now. The history hyenas coin will be available. We're going to launch it. This is how you do it. This is a win-win for everybody. You're going to have a history of hyenas coin, but the only way to purchase it is with the hawk to a coin.
Right. Right. Smart. The right. That way everybody's a winner. Everyone's a winner. Everybody's doing a coin makes a comeback. Yeah. Both of you grow. The rising tide. Yeah, we could finally get Hawke to on our show that way. Yeah. This one viral. This is a video of a kid. He's in his house stream. He was streaming this online. He started a coin and then pump it up. Look at this kid. He's like 50 grand. He's pumping it up and in front everybody. He's like, he starts freaking out here as he watches it go up.
All right, and he got to how quickly did he dump? He dumps it into this videos a minute long he dumped it in the mini Watching it go up wait what he just recognized How old is this kid? I think 13 what I'm so confused
There's people watching this too. That's the other voices you're hearing. Holy fuck! Holy fuck! He just dumped it.
he has no idea what is a crime, how does it work? How come Nancy Pelosi can make all that money? Yeah, I don't understand what the crimes are. I don't understand. There's an SEC regulation against that.
Yeah, you got it. Yeah. You should look it up. Yeah. But what about like when Tom Brady and Larry David got in trouble for the FTX thing and they were just promoting doing a commercial. How were they in trouble for promoting a coin? Well, I never understood that. It remains to be seen whether or not they'll be charged or whether it be found guilty.
But how could they even be remote? Someone lost a bunch of money and they said, Larry David, I trusted you. Right. You were promoting this thing that I think is good. That's the reason why I've never promoted any of those because I've had offers to promote things like real money. I'm not interested. Yeah. I don't even understand it. Yeah. If I don't understand it, like you're selling what you're selling NFTs. What does that mean? It's a non fungible token. We're done. Right. You're saying, right. I'm not doing this. Right. It's like too many fucking bros that are out there doing this that, you know, the Lambo drivers. Right.
It's like a fuckery culture. So do you understand crypto fully or is it still one of those things like? I understand it. Yeah, I understand it. It's just like it's weird that anybody would invest actual real money in it. I understand Bitcoin more than all the other ones, but even Bitcoin is mysterious. You know, there's a lot of weird, I mean, they don't even know who made it. There's all these, there's a whole documentary around Satoshi Nakamoto, whose real identity is. Yeah, it's all controversial. Yeah, that's weird.
you know the fact that there's a certain stable amount of them though that's encouraging you know that you can't make more of them okay but that's exactly what artists do to give their art value that's how you do you limit the supply and then all these only ten original paintings and this is what I'm charging because there's only ten prints of these and so you create the value by the scarcity
So there's nothing mysterious about that. Sort of, but it also limits the ability to add coins to it anytime you want and devalue it. Right. So that's what's more important than making it scarce so people like it more. It is weird.
that we used to be on a gold standard, and then now we're just on hard drives. And we just sort of accept it. And then the government, like when they want to send money to Ukraine, forget about the fact that we're trillions of dollars in debt. They could just come up with $179 billion and ship it over to some country.
yay go have a good time right and you know there's wild reports about the amount of corruption that this money is experiencing i mean this money has probably gone through more people's noses and you know income out of more people's dicks like how much
Where does this money go in? It's so much. There's no way it's 100% efficient. Uh-oh. You have Bitcoin on the world? No, I don't understand it so much like Joe. I just don't stay away. Yeah, I just stay away. Yeah, it's like when someone explains curling to me You know the sport curling sure like I don't even when I get the rules. I'm like I still don't understand
You know I was in Newfoundland and I did a show up there once and The place that was at was like a plate It wasn't like a theater and in this theater apparently they have like curling shows And so like and you're walking down the hallway in the back to before you go on stage There's always fucking photos of people curling and I just went out there and started shitting on curling like right away and they were so bummed out
They're so bummed out that I it's like it looks like the housekeeper Olympics or something. Yeah, they're just sweeping the ice. Dumb. Yeah, it's such a dumb. Dumb sport. It's like bowling for retards. Right. It's like regular bowling is too complicated. Yeah, right.
But they're good. I mean, there's people that are good at it. Well, I don't know how that good at it, but I kind of get it because it's kind of like billiards, right? Or pool. You're rolling this thing. You're trying to like just roll it just enough.
Just this feel, you get this feel to it, you're just like, let it go now. Let it slide, sweep it, sweep it, sweep it, get rid of the friction. So that's what they're doing. Yeah, friction. Yeah, that's what they're sweeping. They're trying to get rid of friction. Right. They only dust. Yeah. They don't even have snow dust. Right. It's stupid. It's so stupid. It's stupid. Yeah, it's so stupid. But if you grow up and there's nothing to do and you suck at hockey,
Just curl. You play that. I guess it's the golfing of ice sports. I guess. I wouldn't. Golfing is way more complex. Yeah, but I just mean like you don't need any real athletic talent to do it. Like how do you retire from golfing? You don't think you need athletic talent from golfing for golfing? Not really. You definitely do. For the drive. You see these guys bodies?
Yeah, yeah, but the coordination of your body to drive a golf ball, Jamie's a nut. He's a Jamie Tom. How much is it say like there's guys that can better like paralyzed. I can still golf. Yeah. I mean, it's really like how do you golf with your mind? I mean, they can literally just swing an arm. They had to strap into a contraption. It sets them up right and points them. I've seen blind people golf.
I mean, Nate Barghatsy is good. Look at his body. He's got taste. But here's my point. To hit at 400 yards, that's 100% athletic. You can't just accidentally do that. Yeah. I mean, even John Daly, you can say John Daly's fat and all that stuff. But John Daly, when you watch him move, the efficiency of his movements.
You know, like we were talking about Mark Hunt. Mark Hunt's a big guy, but it's still fuck people up, right? It's still an athlete. Yeah, sure. Like a lot of these fat golfers, there's a thing they know how to do. They whack that ball and they know exactly how to fuck and put a little spin on that motherfucker, a little wist action on that side. The difference between pro and being able to play the game is different. Right, right, right, right. Something like you ever seen Bartolo Colone, the pitcher for the Mets? No, look at Google. I thought that was a Colone. You were doing Bartolo Colone. This guy's body. Look at Bartolo Colone.
If you pull up our top B-A-R-T-O-L, I mean, look at this guy. And he just threw heat in the majors. And he was just, you know. And he was fun about it. He was fun about being fat. He would sit in the locker room with no shirt on, eating cheeseburgers. Nobody gave a shit. Look at this. Look at that one with the helmet flying off his head.
Well as long as you're good at that sport he was good and that sport is a sport that doesn't require endurance That's what's important. No, you don't have to do anything for a long period of time No the furthest thing you have to do is run to a base. Yeah, and if you got to run to all of them That's crazy. What did you do? Generally if you run into all of them you can kind of trot because you knocked it out of the park, right? What do you think the sport that requires the most endurance? Obviously not thinking about like long distance running because that's obvious, but like
You know what I think it is? What? I think hockey. Well, soccer too. Yeah, but the hockey, you notice how those guys can only be on the ice for like two minutes, two minutes and it gives us so hard to skate like that. Can't do it. Yeah, that's a good point. Good point. You can't soccer players stay in the field the whole game. Yeah, because they get to rest and slow down. Even the best. Gretzky, they can't two minutes. Two minutes. They can't do it. It's crazy. They had four lines, I think. So when they go two minutes, how much they take off before they go back? I think it's like another minute or two.
But it's multiple lines, like, you know, like they just constantly go on and off enough because they just can't because they have to continuously skate. Imagine what a hockey game would look like if they'd never let them use the bench. Oh, that would be insane. People dropped that. Yeah, they would just drop that. That would be wild. I've ever seen hockey live and NHL that to me, besides MMA, I saw an MMA fight once. That was amazing. And then second is NHL.
It's very fast. NHL, those guys on skates, whether you know the rules or not, it's amazing. It's really very, very fast. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. And the skill to be a skate, I can barely skate at all. I'm barely standing up. You know what the fuck is? Yeah. And it's the only sport we are allowed to fist fight in. Yeah. 100%. It's written into the rules. It's encouraged. You're allowed to duke it out, which is so crazy that that's the only one. Yeah, because I think people don't really know where the puck is. And so they're just, everyone's just waiting around for a fight.
Because it's grandfathered in, the punching each other. Has anyone ever seen a goal when it actually happened in real time? No. It happens too fast. That's why they have the siren on top of the goal. Well, you know what I really like on TV where they have that circle over it. So you know where the puck is at all times. A lot of craziness happening. So if you're watching a football game from the 30th row, and you're looking down like, what happened?
Who's at the ball? Like after the ball gets hiked, it's like, where'd it go? They go to him? They're faking you out. You don't know. Unless you see the guy throw it. You don't know what's happening. Yeah. And what about old hockey goalies would do it with no helmet and just get the puck. And then we have out. Oh, you see those faces and the way their faces used to look. Do you think those guys ever sat on the bench and talked about mental health?
Nobody told them what it was. No, no, I don't think so. I think they had some struggles with it. Oh, yeah, take it a couple of shots to the head. Oh, no question. Yeah, I mean, yeah, of course, of course. I mean, it has to be terrifying. Yeah, look at that. I mean, the guy's blocking it with his face. Yep. Yeah, that's all the scars that he had on his face from his entire career.
Terry Sawchuck. That sounds like just a badass name. Yeah, that is a face man. Look at that dude. Imagine if that guy gets mad at you in the bar. You're like, just sir. Bye. Yeah, I don't want that. Who do you think is just? Oh, Jesus. Look at his face. Oh, yeah. Oh, and he had a mask on it broke the mask. Fuck this face up. Jesus Christ. I mean, yeah, I mean, they flick that thing. It's so hard right at your face. So fast. Yeah.
Who's the scariest warrior like from history you would never want to go up against? Like would it be like, you know, like a wild native American on the plains, a guy from Genghis Khan and Nazi? Who do you, who would you be like, shit, this guy's going to fucking kill me. I'm not going to hurt the Vikings. Vikings are the biggest. And they were on mushrooms. Dude, is that true? Yeah. I didn't know that. Those Iceland guys that win the world's strongest man competition all the time, like those guys like the mountain from Game of Thrones, what do you think that gene line came from? Vikings.
one hundred percent those were the dudes that were in that fucking boat with a dragon head at the front and when they pulled up at your shore everybody just ran yeah that's it but can i just nominate someone yes we're not thinking about i mean it's obviously not underrated cuz everyone knows about him but let's just talk about the record alexander the great who led his troops
undefeated in battle he's the Floyd Mayweather of generals undefeated that's great never lost a battle that's great that's true and conquered the known world at that time took down the mighty Persian Empire but if the Vikings were alive back then they might kill him in his little boyfriend too I
they had enough of them. But I think so, dude. They killed each other a lot, too, unfortunately. And they were civilized of Vikings, too. But you ever see the biological warfare when I read this thing where they would the rats on their boat, when they were going to wherever they were invading, they would look for infected rats, somehow they knew. They would get close enough, they would light their tails on fire, and then shoot them into over the walls, and then let the rats run around and infect
people and bite people whatever and waited out for like 40 days and just then go in when the town was all dying of some disease. Whoa. That's another, that's a fact. The Vikings were, they were brutal. They would even kill like the priests and the churches. They would do bad stuff. Have you ever seen Alexander de Grade's ruins in Afghanistan?
In person? Dude, I don't want to go to Afghanistan. That's the problem. Archaeologists can't go there and study them. But they have ancient Greek cities. They look like beautiful ancient Greek cities that are in the middle of Afghanistan. My friend who served over there was telling me about it. He was like, you go there, you can't believe what you're seeing. He had a bunch of pictures of it. It's the craziest thing. It's like, you're in Athens. The Greeks nailed some stuff.
Oh, yeah, my people kind of democracy should read the immortality key. Have you read that? No, it's Brian Murarescu. He's a scholar who was studying the use of psychedelic drugs in ancient Greece where the illucinian mysteries where everybody would go to learn about democracy and like it was all they were all like tripping balls. Yeah.
And they've found evidence now from these vessels, these pottery vessels that inside these vessels, they were drinking wine. But it wasn't wine. The wine wasn't just alcohol. They would mix it with a bunch of different psychedelic compounds. And one of them was ergot. So they found residue of ergot, which is a psychedelic that gives you an LSD-like experience.
So they were all drinking wine and tripping balls and figuring out democracy and, you know, like fucking the stars and constellations. They were out of their heads. Yeah. You have to have the birthplace of so much of Western society has come from that one spot. Yeah. It's been a long time. Yeah. You think you'll bang it out again one day before you go? I would like it to be legal before I admit to that. All right. All right.
This is what I think. Oh, I thought LSD was legal. New, new, new, new, new, super illegal. All right. Schedule one. I think when we realize the benefits of these things, and hopefully it's within our lifetime, especially for people that have PTSD like soldiers,
They'll open the door for that and then they'll have clinics where regular people can use it and then they can get over a lot of the shit that people are struggling with. There's a lot of people that could have a psychedelic experience and snap themselves back onto a better course in life. And if it's illegal, that number of people is going to be very limited.
But like all things, it's going to have side effects. This is the thing. There's no biological free lunch. And if you're doing something that's blowing your brains out, like LSD, there's a certain amount of people who aren't coming back. And that's real. Because there's a certain amount of people who have a very fragile grasp on reality as it is. You give that person nine grams of psilocybin mushrooms, and you've got a real fucking problem. They might not ever come back. Were you able to snap back quick?
It gets that back. It depends on what you're doing and when you're doing it, what time in your life and what the experience was like. But it should be something that's controlled. It should be something that where you have places you can go where they have a very strict protocol. They measure your weight. They know what the dose is to give you. You can do it in a calm and clean and safe setting.
regulated, they have counselors, they have people that understand, they screen you to make sure that you're not on any psych medications first, they would interfere with it. That's what we should have, just like we have hospitals, just like we have mental health institutes. This should be psychedelic research centers that are connected to treatment facilities.
right there you go i want to do it i mean that's what ketamine therapy is exactly small ways right exactly it's very psyched up in fact john lily the guy who uh... created a sensory deprivation tank if that was his vibe he's to like to do ketamine in there he would do intramuscular ketamine so he would go into the side the sensory deprivation tank and fucking bang himself with ketamine into the muscles because it would last a long time just
In his other dimension for hours at a time. Yeah, that was his thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, dude, I got, I want to hit it. Should we do a sensory deprivation tank together? I have one here. He's got one here. You want to hit it? No. Oh, yeah. He won't do it. See, he gets a little, he wants a little scared of stuff.
Yeah. Yeah. It's worth being scared. Yeah. But that's not dangerous. It's not scary. Like whatever weird feelings you have, if you can't handle it, all you have to do is open the door and you're sober, instantaneous. Right. It's different than anything else. Right. But if it was a drug, if the sensory deprivation tank was a drug, it would be a very psychedelic drug.
If it was just a drug, when you lay in there and your eyes are wide open, but it's pitch black and you're floating, you're completely weightless. If that was a drug, it'd be a very popular drug. Now, when you've done this stuff, most people seem to say their ego disappears over the horizon type of stuff. They realize everything's connected. Have you had that experience? You definitely realize everything's connected. And your ego, you realize, is both protecting you and holding you back.
because your ego is like you need a little bit of ego if you want to make it in life because you need to have enough confidence in yourself that you ask the grotto date that you're attracted to or that you chase the job that you want or that you like stand up for yourself when you feel like you're getting fucked over in a business deal like you need some egos you can't be completely selfless you're not going to get anywhere
But then you have to realize that your very fragile and your ego is protecting you from a lot of like true understanding of the life experience. And one of the most profound things that happens with psychedelic experiences is the complete dissolving of ego.
And then you kind of see yourself and everyone around you in a way more objective way. And you realize like, oh my God, we're all energy, like feeding off of each other. And we're pretending that we're isolated and we're singular. We're on our own. That's why like really ill people will tell you, I don't have any friends. I don't like people. I don't want to be around people.
You know, if you've got a guy as a fighter pilot, I don't hang around with fire pilots. It's probably really depressed. Something's wrong with them. If you don't hang out with your peers, if you don't have friends, you don't enjoy camaraderie and community, you want to pretend that you're like this isolated dark poet or something like that, you're probably very mentally ill. There's probably something wrong with you.
Well, we're hardwired social species. Yes, 100%. And we enjoy each other's company. We feed off of it. It's the worst thing they could do for you in jail. It's put you in solitary confinement. The worst thing they could do. You're in a giant cage filled with prisoners and rapists and murderers. The worst thing they could do is leave you alone.
Well, that's why I believe the Internet's bad is because it's fake community. And that's why people talk like a fake way. They don't talk like they would ever talk if they were right in front of people. And that's why I think it's bad because it's messing with people's sense of what reality is. And people are essentially disassociating when they're on there. Exactly. And it's a very shallow way to communicate. And I think that if you do it like that all the time,
your ability to communicate normally and the ability to socialize and just have conversations with people. It's severely stunted. You don't flex that. You don't use that muscle and it atrophies just like everything else. There's so many kids that are completely socially disconnected other than the internet which keeps them connected. So they're socially connected through technology but completely disconnected through human touch, being around people, fun conversation,
Adventure doing fun things. Yeah, they just exist in the same area and just get as much coming through the screen as they can. Yeah, and it's crazy. It's fake. It's not real. Yeah, that's what's troubling and that's what I worry about my kids. I go right I want them to have human connection long conversations experience people's energy looking at someone in the eyes is everything and
Yeah, you know feeling someone's energy like you said it's a you don't feel anything the problem also with kids is even when they're together They're on their phones all the time. That's a problem. Yep Yeah And this is one thing about podcast that's fucking amazing because podcasts are one of the rare times in my life or for three hours I have no phone. Yeah for three hours unless I'm checking something or sending Jamie something I don't
And the people listening are also doing the same thing. They're connecting to you without doing that. Yeah, they're just connecting to hearing you. It's like a long radio show. They're not like beautiful. Flipping through, scrolling, scrolling, scrolling, talking to other people and they're talking back and everyone's pretending like there's somebody else and catfishing each other.
That's why I always used to like planes back in the day before Wi-Fi came around. Because when you were on a plane, if you didn't have a movie to watch or something like that, you just had to sit in that seat. And when you just sit in that seat and you know you can't go anywhere, I would get my best writing done.
Right my best writing because I like forced to write. I'm forced. There's no Wi-Fi. Have you ever tried to go to the bathroom without your phone though? Oh, it's horrible. I can't even see my why it doesn't even work possible Yeah, my to choose her muscle or whatever that muscles that pushes out your pee won't come out if I got a poop really bad and they got like 1% I will go plug it in and hold my shit until you get enough to shit through. I can't do it That's why I think that's why I think
I bet you there's a spike in anxiety when we ask, or people ask to have their phones put away at a comedy show or a music show, whatever. I bet you their anxiety goes through the roof because they're like, I can't, you know? Oh, people complain all the time. It's the best thing, and you do that at the mothership, right? Yeah. It's the best. It's the best thing.
It's better for everybody, too. It's better for the audience member. It's better for you. It's better for everybody. Yeah. If you guys, if you were going to get eaten by, would you, would you, would you rather be an animal or a human? Yeah. You have to get eaten an animal. You don't want a cannibal to want some guy. No one is eating me. Yeah. You don't want him to have that power. Fuck that. Yeah. Yeah. Alligator.
Craig quick. It would be quick. What a hippo. A hippo would snap you in half. You'd be dead in seconds. They drown you, right? Yeah, they just rip you apart. You don't want hyenas, teacher. No, you do not want that. Because what do they do? They eat from the bat because they have no concern about putting you down, killing you like a tiger. You know, a cat will kill you.
Yeah. Make sure you're dead before it eats you. Hyenas just start eating you. Yeah. Same as bears. Bears just start eating you. Just start eating you. Yeah. Wolves just start eating you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't hyenas then throw up the food and then eat their puke. Yeah. That's how they get the only animal story. Yeah. They're the only animal that eats the full bone.
Oni animal on the planet that it pulverizes the bone their jaw strength is such that they pulverize the bone and consume the bone as well So when they're done, there's no carcass. They're the fucking best animal on the planet They got pseudo penises their transgender animal fucking wild the women are bigger than the men. I loved your bit about it
They smell too bad. And we started the podcast because hyenas have always been my favorite animal, and we both loved history, and so we just combined those two things. But hyenas are hilarious, dude. What was your bet about hyenas? It was great. It was a long bet. It's a good bet. It's basically about their matriarchal power structure. Why that's bad. Well, it's also they had to do that because male hyenas are such cunts, they probably eat the babies. They're monsters.
But they're like a medium-sized animal in a world of things way bigger than them. So they're living around lions. They get it done. They use... They use... They trick you. Numbers. They confuse you. They're opportunity killers. They love to kill. To steal kills. That laughing is real. That cackle. That's a real thing. They don't really know what it is either. They don't actually know what exactly. They're having a good time. They're just having fun. The fruit lions are like these fucking hyenas again.