#2231 - Jimmy Corsetti & Dan Richards

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Thank you very much for that video. We talked about it before, but I want to say it publicly. The debunking of the debunking by Flint Dibble. You really nailed him on so many of those things that he was dishonest about. I wish we knew in real time, but unfortunately, it takes a lot of research to be able to figure out what he was telling the truth about and what he wasn't.

Thank you. I was tell everybody your site too. Oh the dunking the be dunking the past does my email the dunking on YouTube or on Twitter That's with two D's like my ex Not debunking sorry. That's okay. That's okay. I'm sorry D dunking not debunking. Yes, Dan Richard. Thank you

Yeah, the thing with Flint, it was actually funny, the moment that I knew that he was lying about the science was when you asked him about the fertilization of plants. That's where they roll back into a no longer domesticated. And he was like, oh, I'll just take thousands of years. It's like, no, no, no, I've researched this and I know better. And he was just knee jerking straight into thousands of years. And when you pressed him, he's like, well, I don't know for sure. Well, that's a bummer because that's his field of study.

which is really kind of crazy. It's a really fascinating thing that seeds do adapt to agriculture. They adapt to the fact that it's better for the survival of the plant if when you develop agriculture, if they're more robust and they stay on the plant, it's better for the wild if they break off easy and they can scatter better and they can proliferate. Yeah, it's really basic if you think about it. I mean, if it stays on the plant after it's ripe, it's just sitting there waiting for the first thing to come along and eat it.

But that whole natural selection thing when it comes to plants is so fascinating. But the question was so simple. If you stopped having agriculture and these plants just grew wild, would they go back to the same characteristics of wild plants? And he was like, no, there's no evidence of that. But then I saw your video and then I looked at some other stuff and there's quite a bit of evidence of it, particularly with wild rice, right?

particularly with wild rice. Yes, that one, it looks like out of any of them, if there's a possibility that one was domesticated and then went back to the wild and then was domesticated again, it would be rice. That shows multiple types. There's different ways the seeds can break off, right? They can break in different points of the plant where they can just fall straight out and rice shows numerous past layer where wheat only has one genetic pathway to that seed shatter where the seed falls off. So it's, they get pretty complicated, but rice does,

Rice does have a lot of genetic possibilities for that. No, I'm not a geneticist, so I'm sure that somebody's going to come and, you know, say there's a pseudo crap. But ultimately, at the end of the day, Flint was treating it as a debate, whereas you and Graham were both trying to sift to the truth. And that's why he was not going to give Graham one little corner, one little shred of possibility of being right anywhere. When in reality, it's a lot of, just like everything else in life, it's a lot of gray.

Well, it's also this whole subject of the past is it's so obviously confusing because when you look at I watched your your video today the Balbeck video just looking at the enormous size of those stones. There's no reasonable explanation how people like what is that dated to like what what year do they believe it was made?

This is where it gets fun is because they credit it to the Romans and the Phoenicians. However, there's it goes beyond the sophistication and the capabilities what the Romans were known to have, whether it's the existence of the Screwjack for lifting the stones. But Balbeck, which is located in Lebanon, and I had the great privilege of going there in September of last year, exactly one month before things kicked off in Israel with the whole Hamas thing. And if I hadn't got there, then I wouldn't have no chance. Like right now Israel's bombing Lebanon. And so it's a dangerous place.

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But Balbeck, if there was one example, one ancient site on Earth that is evidence of a lost ancient advanced civilization, and by advanced, I'm not talking about space lasers here. I'm talking about more sophisticated than what we were taught in school for the known capabilities. And Balbeck has the largest stones that were ever quarried in human history, the largest stones that were lifted, stacked, and transported in human history, and the largest stone columns in all of classical history. And we're talking, so the trilathon stones,

three stones, 900 tons of piece or 800 metric tons. And they were moved a half a mile from the quarry. They were lifted and stacked approximately 30 feet off the ground. And when I say stacked, they were perfectly lined up. And Jamie, it's in my folder of Balbeck if you want to show some of these. And they're absolutely massive. So let me tell you right here. And I, of course, have the gentleman there who I'll tell you about later highlighted just to kind of show you for perspective. Like that's someone right there. It's five foot 11.

Those stones that are highlighted in red are the trilofon stones. But these pictures do not do it justice because it's taken through an ultra wide camera lens. From the top to bottom of the red highlighted stones is 14 feet and they're 62 feet long or 62 feet, excuse me. Like there's me. And it's so crazy. It's hard to tell because of the perspective and people need to kind of understand how a wide angle lens

Sort of distorts things by showing you this enormous field of view But when you're looking at something that's 14 feet long and 60 excuse me 60 62 feet long and 14 feet high like what is the weight of that? What's the overall weight?

900 imperial tons or 800 metric tons. And to anyone listening, a metric ton is 2,200 pounds, 1,000 kilograms, and an imperial ton is 2,000 pounds. So that's 1.7 million pounds. Each of them, and there's three of them.

And if you were to go to the quarry, there's ones that are 1,200 tons and even 1,500 tons that are 20 feet tall. This is mind-boggling. Like, Jamie, if you want to just scroll through some of the other photos to kind of give Joe the perspective and the audience the perspective. And these are clearly cut stones that were moved into place and moved 23 feet above the ground.

Right. And technically 30 feet because there's stones that are actually below the ground there that you can't see because it's submerged under the earth. So technically it was 30 feet, but 23 feet off the ground today. And right there, this highlights, so not only is that 14 feet from top to bottom, which you would never realize when you're looking at this. And these are confirmed measurements, by the way. This is right out of encyclopedias. But notice how they're completely flush, nice and even with each other. And the

This exceeds the known capabilities of what the Romans had. And it's worth mentioning that this site is some 2,400 miles from Rome, the capital. And if they're going to say that this was created by the Romans, one, people need to understand that the Romans were renowned for documenting everything. Yet this site is not credited to anybody. They don't know exactly who did it or when, but the academics conclude that it had to have been the Romans or the Phoenicians because, of course, there was no one before them. And with this photo right here, let me say something else.

There is evidence of at least two, but arguably three different architectures that were done at this site. And I would conclude that this is evidence that this site existed in prehistoric times. There's also, I could show you encyclopedias that talk about Balbeck being prehistoric in nature, dating back 11,000 years of human history.

And what I argue is that it was built up, it was found by the Romans and the Phoenicians and built upon later. And right here is evidence for all that have ice to see. Look how they obviously use broken stones and constructed on top of it. Why would you go from making the most advanced stones in history that far exceed anything you see in Rome? For example, if you were to go to the Colosseum,

as magnificent as that is. It is architecture of mathematics and just brilliance. But this right here, why would they use the, why would they, for all the feats of Roman history, why would they have the most impressive feats over 2,000 miles away from the capital? In fact, let me just say this.

When I'm talking about 900 ton stones, the largest stone in all of Rome is 53 tons. It's the Trajan's capital block to make up the Trajan's column, 53 tons. This is 15 times heavier. There's a number of things too. I'm not a huge believer in ancient technology. I'm not a big believer in ancient technology as Jimmy's well aware. Which is why it's important that you're here because people can hear multiple perspectives.

Yeah, that's where I can tell you some things about Balbeck that are still interesting to me. One of them is you don't see the Roman foot in those stones, which is weird. You would expect to see some sort of breakdown of the Roman foot in these measurements, but they're not there at Balbeck. They are there on the stones that were quarried by Roman foot. What you're saying is that there's a different measurement. What they considered a foot.

It's not 12 inches. Correct. There's a Roman unit of measurement that they would use in construction. And we don't see it in those stones, in the trilathon, but there's three stones that were quarried and left in the ground. All of those stones show signs of using the Roman foot. Jamie, will you scroll over to this? So that right off the bat shows to me that the ones that were installed were not built by the Romans, but the ones that were quarried were made by the Romans. They were trying to quarry out stones to match it.

Right here. Another thing is- That's crazy. Roman architecture always uses the most impressive things right in the front. You walk in the front of the thing and that's where you're going to see the biggest stones, the most impressive, for obvious reasons. These are in the back, completely on the opposite end of the entrance. So you have to, like, from what you told them, you kind of have to look for them if you don't know where they're at, right? Like, you can't just show up on the site and they say, here's the trilathon.

Well, let me tell you a quick story real quick. So I had the pleasure of going there with some people and I'll tell you about it later. I won't do the name drop just yet. But Dory, who lives in Lebanon, he toured us around and he had been to the site three times before when we went to his fourth time.

He did not know of the existence of the trilathon stones. They're around back. You got to walk probably a third of a mile to get there. They don't even bring the tours around to the trilathon stones. He had no idea what I was talking about the night before dinner. I'm trying to explain to him like the trilathon stones, the 900 ton stones. And I had to show him a picture. He had never seen him before. How do they not show the tourists this?

That's an excellent question. You do have to walk. To be honest, it's like a 12, 15 minute walk to go around to get there. I mean, it's part of the platform, but you have to go all the way around. And some people just don't feel like making the walk. And when we were there, we were totally alone for a half hour with these stones, not a single person.

There was hundreds of people at the site, not a single one of them came around back. Now, just to clarify what the audience is seeing right now, this is at the quarry, which is a half mile away. This is where all the stones originate from. And this one right here is what's called the stone of the pregnant woman. It is 1200 tons. As you can see, it's 14 feet tall, which is the same height. So in those trilophon stones, I was showing you a moment ago.

This, the only difference is that this one's 68 feet long. It's virtually the same size, except for just a few feet shorter, but it's the same height. So that gentleman right there, Pierre, who's a wonderful man, is six foot tall. And look at him just dwarfed by this stone. Twelve hundred tons. Right. And it's not from there.

Well, no, it is. So this is at the quarry. So this one's at the quarry, but the ones that were placed, where are they from? This quarry, which is a half mile away. So they moved 1,800 pounds a half a mile.

three of them. And that doesn't include the two dozen that are 350 tons of piece. That doesn't include the nine that are 600 tons of piece. Nine stones that are 600 tons of piece are somehow a side note to the trilophone stones. And let me just tell you this. This is something, Jamie, if you scroll over a few to articles involving, because this is what the audience needs to understand.

A lot of people hear these numbers and they don't wrap their head around exactly how important this is, which is that the go to the article involving the Los Angeles County Museum of Art. It's in the same folder of Balbeck. And the largest stone moved in modern times is 340 tons. And we're going to come back to all these photos too because it's extremely important. There's some details in here. That's the one at that goofy museum in LA.

Yes, which is by the way, a very goofy museum. Yeah, I haven't been there. It's so dumb. It's so dumb. It's there's an acrylic box that's on the ground. Yeah, you're supposed to interpret as art. It's just a box that's just sitting there. It's one of those places where you go there and you go, what is my tax dollars going to do, motherfuckers?

Go to the other folder that's moving stones. So let me just, while he's looking for that, let me explain to you. I saw the video on that. And so to what this is, is there was a suspended stone that's an enormous stone that they placed there as part of their art piece. Yeah. And this thing was not that, not that Jamie. This is just fails. That's it. Yeah. We'll play that video in a little bit. It's pretty funny.

They had to move the stone it was four miles an hour as the fastest they can move it They had to build a structure around the stone to move it Yes, so this fucking insanely huge truck. Let me tell you so the details it is a 200 so they had to custom build a trailer truck around the stone itself tell Jamie look under the moving stones folder. There's not a folder. It's just a video

go to, let's see here, scroll down a little bit, go to Ramisium statue. Man, you're using a Mac, it doesn't show you the preview of the pictures. Keep looking until you find of a big red truck, but I'll tell the audience while you're looking for it, exactly what we're talking about here. So, yeah, keep going. All right, back there we go. You're on it, go back a little bit.

Go back to the article three, go left like three times. Right there. Go back or right there. So this one stone, 340 tons, they call it the largest operation of its kind since the Egyptians built the pyramids. They had a custom build a 260 foot long trailer truck that consists of 196 semi truck wheels. As 44 axles, it's 32 feet long. It took a year of planning. It cost $10 million. It took nine days to move this 340 ton stone.

What a great use of taxpayers' money, $10 million. Absolutely. There's no way they needed that money for LA. Yeah. Yeah. Who cares about potholes and homeless people? No way. I mean, this is more important. And so this is what's so important, is that this, the largest stone moved in human history is at the Ramesseum. It's the Ramesseum statue in Egypt. It's 1,000 metric tons, which is 2.2 million pounds. That was inexplicably moved 170 miles from the quarry and us one. And here's the significance of this.

Brother, this stone at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art is one-third of the weight. One, the stone at the ramecium is three times heavier. And how far did they move that stone? This one at the museum. No, the one, the ramecium. 170 miles, and the other one was moved 106 miles.

170 miles and it's 2 million pounds. And so this is where things get really fun is that they say, the academics, they say that the stones would have been moved on tree logs because that's their best guess. And it's not an unreasonable guess, but when you look into the nuanced details, so I really nerd it out hard on this, there's a lot of people, are you familiar with the Mohs scale of hardness?

No. So it's the measurement of stone and it's often used by alternative ancient history buffs to say that, hey, copper-based tooling could not have been utilized to cut granite stone that's been claimed. And there's no evidence that the Egyptians never told us they used bronze tooling to cut the stones and make up the granite stones within the pyramid.

And so I started asking them, like, wait a second, if they're going to say that they moved a 2.2 million pound stone on tree logs, well, they say that it was the seater, the Lebanon cedar trees. Well, I nerd it out on this and there's something called the jenka scale of hardness, which measures the hardness of stuff of wood. And it's often used for if you're going to pick wood flooring in your house, very soft wood.

It's one of the softest on earth, not the softest, but it's so soft that it would never even be considered for flooring in your house because your furniture and your heels would dent it immediately. And if you were to put significant weight on it, whatever that weight is, it would either crush it, crumble it, or at least dent it out of a circle, or being a circular nature to roll on. And so when you look into the nuance details involving the mysterious accomplishments of the ancients, it becomes abundantly clear. Like if I had one thesis,

is that the true history of mankind was more advanced than what we were taught in school. Now, how advanced? That's the fun topic and we'll dive into that here in the next couple hours. But the reality is that there's evidence for all who have eyes to see that they're, I mean, again, brother.

1,000 metric ton statue and this is right out of encyclopedias. Show the statue. So this is the statue. It somehow or another fell. Yeah, so it was a seated statue. That's me in front of it and it's broken into multiple pieces. There's some images, Jamie, of what it originally looked like. Look, so that foot, it's up to my belly button. Like the top of the foot. That's just the foot. There's another picture that would an illustration that would show you what it would have looked like when it was full.

Go back one. So that's what it looks like from an aerial shot now. It's completely toppled over. God knows what would have taken to knock this thing over. They say probably an earthquake. It was a seated statue. If it was a standing statue, that's what it looked like originally. Yes. And again, 1,000 metric tons is 2.2 million pounds.

how it got knocked over in itself, to me, might be indicators of some sort of cataclysm, but that's a side point. But the point is this. It was moved 170 miles. They do not, the Egyptians did not articulate, illustrate, or describe how they would have done so. Isn't that part of the problem with the burning of the Library of Alexandria as all that information was lost forever? Yes. Here's the thing, let me say this real quick. Brother, the Library of Alexandria was thousands of years before the Great Pyramid.

Like the Library of Alexandria was just after was at 47 AD or BC that it got destroyed is believe something around there. So 2000 years ago, this statute is 3000 years old, according to the academics. So this is 1000 years before the Library of Alexandria. So yeah, it's not a reasonable to suggest that they would have had information about how they constructed these things. In fact, I want to believe that they did. But they might not. Yeah, they might not have. Where are you going to say when you're talking about the

We look at the way that they moved the stones, like you're talking about the cedar. They moved one stone in human history that was really big. The biggest stone ever moved was the thunder stone was moved by Catherine the Great's people. Late 1700s. Late 1700s. They used a big team of people and they moved this thing, not very far, like 10 miles, 8 miles, something like that. Nine miles? And it took nine months. And it took nine months.

And when they were pulling this thing on the ground, they had to consistently try metallurgy different types of ball bearings for it to roll on because the ones they were moving would keep being crushed. And then they had to use screw jacks that are just like you jack up a house floor with, like I said before, they would use these screw jacks to lift the statue back up and put it on bearings. Well, the Romans didn't have a screw jack.

We had a metallurgy trying different kinds of ball bearings and shit. That's something way outside. I mean, the 1700s, the 1700s, we're talking right at the cusp of them actually making structural steel. You know, this is the beginning of iron bridges and shit. They were actually making good metallurgy then, and it still took trial and error to move this stone.

And that stone's basically the same size as the ones at Balbeck, a tiny bit bigger. But the same kind of issues where they would have had to have jacked that thing up, which would have took steel or hard, hard metal. Basically, they had to have some highly advanced metal Urgy for the time, not as good as we have now, but 1700s level of metal Urgy. That's what it would have taken.

The Romans did not have that level of sophistication. So that's the thing. So there's something that you inform me of, Dan, and let me just give you a shout out. Hey, everybody, go subscribe to D dunking on YouTube. Your channel is a goldmine that is bringing you are bridging together the facts that the alternative theorists are presenting, as well as the academics, and you're differentiating the truth. And your truth and your channel is so valuable. And what you taught me

is that the invention of the screw jack was utilized in order to lift that thunderstone the bronze horseman on top of that those metal rails so with the gypsia or excuse me the Romans didn't have that that wasn't invented until thousands of years later so without that screw jack they would have never been able to lift it in the first place

That stone would have just sat there because yeah, you said something that you don't believe in ancient technology I don't believe in ancient high technology in the regards that generally speaking when you start getting put this mic. I'm so sorry. It's okay I'm sorry for your face. I'm so sorry about that So that I don't I'm not a believer in ancient high technology in regards that I don't believe like Even even ancient steam engines would be like pushing it when you start talking like

really advanced stuff, I tend to look for other explanations. I tend to look for, you know, stone was the premier building material for hominids for like millions of years, literally millions of years. So father passed to his son how to do this sort of thing. And eventually you get to a point where we start working with metal and that kind of just dies off. We quit doing that for a while. And then

A thousand years goes by and we look at what our ancestors used to do and we're like holy shit But I honestly think a lot of this stuff that if we just saw how they did it We would just be like well fuck why didn't I think of that but wait a minute when you're talking about moving things that are a thousand tons And you're moving them through the mountains like how

I mean, why wouldn't you believe in some sort of ancient technology? Well, let's put it this way. I'm not opposed to the idea, but we need to get there first. Like if we're going, like we're talking about the thunderstone or the Balbeck stones, going from like, I feel like we need to exhaust every other possibility before we can start hanging our hat on something.

What other possibilities could you even conceive of? That's I hope under the conversation, but it is technology It would be definitely something bigger better than we know or different than we know but like

Like, I give an example and I've used it well with Jim before was, you know, when this World War II ended, America ended all their sniper schools overseas to tighten the budget and Vietnam started, we didn't have any sniper schools. And the NCOs on the ground say, hey, we need trained snipers. They had to actually recruit snipers, sharpshooters from the American Olympic team because we didn't have trained snipers anymore. In 20 years, we had better tools, worse results because of the lack of skills.

So I'm of the opinion that there's some, you were right, but the sniper is something that we're all very well aware of. It's conceivable. It's obvious how you would do it. You could explain it to the layperson. Yeah, you can. But it was something that still there was a skill set that was lost in just 20 years. That's all. I think that, like a lot of things, you see a lot of the ideas for moving the big rocks. Some guys will use like,

like they think that like vacuum like water pressure vacuums were used to pull rocks up tubes and all you see all kinds of interesting hypothesis that use lower tech means that I tend to think most of them I think that don't work but I tend to to think that those would be the direction we should be looking before we go to ancient high technology and again the reason the reason that I think that is

Because if we do get to ancient high technology, we really need to have eliminated everything else, but we get there in order to be taken seriously. I guess that's kind of how I look at it. I'm a more skeptical person. Real quick. So let's back up to this and see if we go on this. Would you agree that what we were taught in school that the ancients were more sophisticated than the described narrative? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. See, then there you go. So we're on the same page because it's like,

What's technology? Like, do they have space lasers and hydraulics? I'm not suggesting that. Boom and arrow is technology. Right, a horse saddle technology. Right, so they had something else.

No, yeah, they definitely when I guess like when I get to the what I think when most people think high technology like you say space lasers and stuff powered powered things like something where they were no longer using human power or water power something or harnessing energy or doing Sophisticated chemistry things like that's where I start to be like well I need more evidence to go that far with it. However The moving of the big rocks is something that I'm quick to say but in order to do it we would need

If we were to do it, we would need technology well outside of what they had available to them at the time. And in my opinion, if you look at those, like this at Bowelbeck, which will go back to that, you've got the three big stones that were put in a wall that don't have the Roman unit of measurement used. And we've got three big rocks in the ground that do have the Roman unit of measurement.

I think that they gave up. They realized they weren't able to do it. They had one group carving them, and the guys tasked to move them, looked at them, what the fuck are you guys on about it? No way we're moving these things. You're on crack. And the fact that it's undocumented, like the foundation of Balbeck is completely undocumented. Go ahead. Do you were saying something about dating it to 11,000 years?

Jamie, if you go to the Balbeck folder, you'll find an encyclopedia article that describes the evidence of human habitation at Balbeck dating back 9,000 BC, which is 11,000 years ago. I'm not suggesting these stones were created back then. I'm open to it. What is the evidence?

Like what kind of evidence pottery? Oh, sure. I'd have to go read through the scientific article, but it's humans were there 11,000 years ago. Yes. Okay. And the fact that they don't document when the Romans were, yeah, see right there. And there's another history that dates back at least 11,000 years encompassing in significant periods such as prehistoric, canonite, Hellenistic, and Roman errors after Alexander the Great Conquer, the city in 334 BCE.

He renamed it Helopolis, Heliopolis. Heliopolis. Heliopolis. Greek for Sun City, the city flourished under Roman rule. Now, let me say this real quick, Jamie, will you go to the picture of the mountains in this folder? So this is something that's unbelievable. All right, so just scroll through all these photos of the mountains because here's something that people need to understand that is unbelievably significant, which is that at Balbeck,

There are approximately 200 rose granite columns that were transported from the Aswan quarry in Egypt, which is 700 miles as the bird flies. And what's wild is that the only way to get them to Balbeck, because the Balbeck is located in the middle of the Lebanon mountains. And it has an.

average elevation of 8,000 feet with peaks reaching over 10,000 feet. As you can see, there's a frickin ski resort there, which I couldn't believe when I was driving there. There was literally the ski lifts. I went there in September. So they had to bring all of those multi ton, uh, uh, uh, stone columns from Egypt and the only way to get there was over these mountains, which is mind blowing.

And what you're saying by how the crow flies, as the crow flies, what people need to understand is that doesn't take into account elevation changes. So if you have a flat line, like a bird, and you're flying from one point to another, that's 700 miles. But if you have to go up and down, and up, and down, and up, and down, it would significantly larger with the measurement. It's not 700 miles. It's probably double that. Right. That's an excellent point.

And it's like, then the question is like, why would they do this? Like, why would they go out of the, like, how and why? How, why is like, it's cool. But how is the real question? Like, how do I mean, obviously we built things because it's cool. Right. You know, if you go to the Acropolis and the Parthenon, you go, why did they do that? It was fucking cool, you know?

But like people like to leave cool shit by right but you look at Balbeck So there's sort of a lot of interesting things about it Like it has the largest temple of Jupiter out of anywhere on the Roman Empire generally speaking It's got some of the biggest temples in the Roman Empire period But it's a far-flung corner of their Empire and it's not an important city really mean it semi-important in the region, but it's certainly no Cairo or anything, right?

The whole but but it has all these huge temples my opinion is my thinking is that they showed up and there was this massive stone work there and these are the Romans they can't have These can't have the locals thinking their ancestors were better than the Romans, so they fucking hijack it

We just build big shit on top of it. This is now ours. We plant our stamp on it. This is a Roman building. This is all Roman now. This was never your ancestors. This was always ours. And then the locals don't ever, you can't look to their forefathers or whatever legends they had in a couple of generations, just the power of Rome. Well, even the Parthenon, it's built on the Acropolis. And the Acropolis is older than the Parthenon. And it's, you know, who made that? Everybody just shrugs their shoulders.

Mmm. Other folks? Stay away from the mysteries. We are in the building. We put up here. You know what's interesting about Balbeck as well is that it's in the Bible. The Lebanon mountains are mentioned 103 times in the Bible. I am not a Bible thumper.

I am a believer in a divine creation. I'm proud to say it because I've seen the proof of my own life. However, what's interesting is about Balbeck is that they said that it was created by Baal, which is like this demon entity in the Bible, and they declare it as the world's first civilization after the flood, and it was created by giants as punishment for what their iniquities of the flood. And I have an article about it. Jamie, if you scroll

Now we're into Anunnaki territory. There you go, right? Exactly. So hold on, go back to those cranes. Let me tell you this. So what you're looking at here is the Romans most sophisticated crane in their history in adding max lifting capacity of 6.6 tons.

In other words, to lift just one of those trilophon stones, you would need 133 of these, which is obviously completely not feasible whatsoever. You wouldn't have the space to do it, and it's just ridiculous to suggest you would coordinate 133 cranes around it. So what this is what I'm trying to say is that it's further suggestive evidence that the Romans didn't build it because they didn't have the capability to lift stones of that mass. Yeah, that's still pretty fascinating. The Romans were able to build a crane that could lift six tons. That's amazing.

But not enough to even lift the stones that were inside the King's Chamber. Right. So let me put this in a perspective. So the largest stones inside the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid are approximately 80 tons imperial. So actually 78 tons imperial or 70 tons metric removed some 500 miles from the Aswan quarry and lift and stacked hundreds of feet above the ground.

But here's what's wild is that those stones, the largest stones in the Great Pyramid, compared to the trollathon stones, the trollathon stones are 15 times heavier.

Not twice as heavy, not three times as heavy, not 10 times as heavy. As a guy who's skeptical of that stuff, ancient high technology, there's a couple of things that make it where it's like, I straight up can't explain, Bob Beck is one of them. You can use those cranes and lay them on their side and drag that stone across the ground. That's exactly what they did with the thunderstone, Catherine the Great's time. But then you have tasked with lifting that son of a bitch and all of a sudden you're right back to where you started. You can drag it across however you want, but when you get to picking it up 14 feet off the ground,

and they dragged it on those rails, though. Yeah, and those rails were more than 23 feet off the ground. Oh, yeah, a 30 feet, right. Yeah, it is 30 feet is documented. I have 23 feet illustrated because it's where the ground is now. Right. But it's the foundation of it goes subsurface. So it's like, you know, with these details, like, there's a reason why there is a growing interest

in the mysteries of lost ancient civilizations, because smart people of all kinds of walks of life are looking into the nuanced details and realizing like, oh, wait a second. Like when Graham Hancock says that there's a missing chapter of human history, like this is reality. We don't know how they built the Great Pyramid. It is a fact that the Egyptians left us with no explanation of any kind out of the tens of thousands of hieroglyphs all over Egypt. Not a single one of them describes how they constructed the pyramid or how they cut granite stones, not one.

Yeah, there's not there's big lacks of big gaps in the knowledge is where we end up having these kinds of discussions. And I think to go back to where we first started, we mentioned Flint at the beginning that we have a problem in my opinion that most people that see things kind of like I do as opposed to like Jimmy or self does where they're looking where it's I kind of need to take my steps to get to that ancient technology.

They end up going that just straight debunker out. And then they get skeptical. That's skeptical. They get cynical. They turn into assholes. They turn into they're looking for ways to shoot this down. I just fuck your idea, right? So your idea is wrong. So I know what the implications are. Instead of saying, well, you know, maybe there's other implications. Let's have a discussion about it. They just go straight to know this is impossible. This is stupid. Make fun of the person, compare it to flat eartherism, compare it to aliens. Oh, and not seeism.

even worse. Yeah, Flint's case. He's even worse. He he's somehow another classic to white supremacy. It's not just it's that fucking John Hoops, man. He's the one that started that shit. He's he's that guy. Wikipedia. We can talk about that for a quick second. John Hoops is a professor for the university for Kansas University. And he is been on been one of the earliest editors of Wikipedia consistently. Graham Hancock's page, Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis page.

All kinds of pseudo-archaeology and pyramids and Atlantis, all that shit. He's got locked. It's not just that he edits it. Him and his buddies edit it, and you can't go in and edit it. There's a scientist from the Comet Research Group that tried to edit the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis page and was told he can't because it's a conflict of interest. A fucking scientist that works on this shit's a conflict of interest, but a scientist from outside the field isn't.

By the way, John Hoops studied at Harvard and Yale. He got his undergrad, I believe from Harvard and his PhD from Yale or vice versa. This is significant because he's controlling the information. He hides this stuff too. He'll tell you that

He'll tell I watched him tell Forbes Hey, you guys need to cite Wikipedia instead of just because they said the Younger drives impact hypothesis and they just made a real quick article about it with no skepticism He says you need to cite Wikipedia as well He edits the Wikipedia page and doesn't mention that he edits it when he tells people to go look at the

What's his motivation for debunking this stuff? He doesn't like Graham Hancock. Same kind of thing. He thinks pseudo-archaeology is all the isms. If you believe in ancient high technology or you believe in Atlantis, you must be a white supremacist or racist or misogynist. Let's forget about Atlantis for a minute, but I definitely want to talk about it. But what you're seeing is impossible. It's essentially impossible with today's technology. When you're talking about those stones that remove 700 miles through the mountains,

If you tried to bring some engineers together in the United States in 2024, the best and the brightest and said, here's your project. They would say, fuck you. You do on muske levels of money to thrive. You would need super billionaire money. And even then, I don't know how you would do it. I just don't. I can't conceivably think of a way.

And that's what's so interesting about this stuff is that whatever they did was not just complicated for the time. It was so beyond our imagination of what was possible at the time that it's beyond our imagination of what's possible today.

So it just, it throws this, these facts, the physical facts about the size and the location they were brought from that fly in the face of logic and credibility and our understanding of what's possible, not just then, but today. So for anybody to say, oh, we've figured this out. Hey, man, fuck you.

I definitely have it and the problem is that you have these fucking names attached to you Harvard and Yale and you've decided because there's a group of people that have been studying this stuff and they fucking wrote some shit down and you studied what they wrote down and you did your own studying you got a degree you're the guy you're the only one and it's the same fucking weirdo weasels that put their pronouns in their Twitter bio and

And they're just crackpots. They're crackpots masquerading as intellectuals. Because the things that they're saying are completely bizarre, they're all 100% of them are captured by this woke ideology. We're left out. They're weird people, man, because they exist in this structure that's been completely compromised. And that's our education, not higher education systems, have been completely compromised. And this is not to say that they don't teach you amazing stuff about medicine and science. Of course they do.

But they are also in a cult. It is a total cult behavior, and honestly it's their religion. It is a religion. It's mostly atheists. Let me just share this. So with the biggest critics in the naysayers of alternative theories,

There's a common denominator, like when you mention the pronouns in their profile, almost all of them have it and they're not trans. And if you look at their political ideologies, it is extremely left. And these people are visceral, they're toxic. And that means just make a side point that I almost forgot, is when we're talking about Wikipedia, a lot of people say, well, that's why you don't look at Wikipedia. You don't trust it. Who cares about Wikipedia? I'm like, excuse me, it shows up at the top of Google on anything that you search. So it cannot be ignored.

And when you're talking a moment ago about the impossibility of the movement of these stones I want to just emphasize this point one more time Which is that movement of that 340 ton stone at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art is one third the weight of the largest stones in ancient history and When you look at what it took to do it so it's like when people you know when you're using the word impossible It's like listen what it took for us to do that and it was a third of the weight and he had a custom build this 260 foot long truck with 196 wheels have internal cars

combustion engines and hydraulics have roads that are flat and far better metal far better roads. The roads, one reason why they had to go 106 miles is because they had to go around different roads because most roads couldn't support the weight. Like people that look into this like don't listen to Jimmy the YouTuber

like look into the details on yourself and you'll realize like this is completely inexplicable. And it's so important now because we're living at a time where people are starting to realize that not everything we were taught was true. In fact, a lot of things you see in the mainstream media nowadays have been utterly debunked. It's all propaganda. And about history, about recent history that's easily proven and the mainstream media will tell false narratives. Absolutely. And so we know that people lie.

So we know that people lie and we know that people love to be in a position of authority to be the only people that are allowed to distribute the truth. We know that. Do you want to get provocative real quick? Sure. Nowadays, there's a lot of conjecture about the historical accuracy of different things involving World War II.

And Jamie, if you were to go to the Balbeck folder, or in fact, go to the folder called Swastika. So this is something that I got tremendous heat for, whereas that when I went to Balbeck, I noticed that there were Swastika's all over the place. And I'm like, well, that's interesting. That's an ancient symbol.

The what a lot of people are not aware of is that the swastika is prehistoric. It's found on five continents around the world and dates back approximately 10,000 years. It is found in Europe, Africa, Asia, North and South America, all before trans oceanic sea travel was thought to be possible. If you scroll through the images, Jamie, you'll kind of give the audience an understanding. Now, let me, let me preface this whole conversation with this.

Fuck Hitler. He stole the symbol, which was a symbol of peace, and he bastardized it. So this right here, I took this photo. You'd almost think it's photoshopped in. This is a photo. This is real.

And I'm like, well, this is fascinating. I put this up on Twitter and I said, did Hitler know something about ancient history that we don't? And the reason why, and this was a sincere question. Everyone started calling me a Nazi. I was spreading dangerous Naziism for it. No, this is a grown up conversation. Hitler was a very, he was evil, but he was intelligent. And the Nazis were arguably the most technologically advanced

country at that time in World War II, the jet engine, rockets. And for some reason, for reasons that I cannot find a definitive answer on, is why was Hitler so into archeology? They call it Nazi archeology. And the mainstream people will say, oh, well, it's he weaponized. He was trying to get this Aryan thing going to unite people and just create an enemy. People kick it to Himmler a lot. They'll say that Himmler was the one that was really into that shit. Yeah. And so that's by the way, that's Peru.

like 800 years ago. You'll find the Native Americans, the Pima Indians, the Navajo, the Apache. There's actually a Hindu temple in Los Angeles that was near my old house. And we went to visit it. You could actually have weddings there.

And they had to have a sign up explaining why there were so many swastikas on the building. The swastikas all over it. I went to Japan and it's the same thing there. They had swastikas on different tries. Oh, Okinawan karate. When I was a kid, Okinawan karate, one of their patches was a swastika. And this was when I was a kid. So this is in the 80s when I was studying martial arts. When it first started studying martial arts, you could get these Okinawan karate patches that had a swastika on it. Had nothing to do with Hitler. It had to do with Japan. Right.

Oh, sorry, go ahead. All right, so real quick, while Jamie's on this slide, this is from the Hopel Mountain People, which is a modern day Ohio, and that dates back 2,200 years ago. Jesus Christ, this is from modern day Ohio 2,000 years ago? 2,200 years ago. And so here's the point that I'm making about the swastika is that, look, people debate on whether it was the Milky Way galaxy, the Big Dipper, whatever you want to say its origins were. I do not think that it's a coincidence that a symbol as so specific as it is is found on five continents around the world.

before trans-oceanic sea travel was said to be possible, because just to remind the audience, it was until 1492 when Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean blue and of. And it's like, no, this, I believe this is strong suggestive evidence that humans were traversing the continents in the oceans thousands of years before we were taught in school, which is evidence of being more advanced than we were taught in school.

What did they think this thing was? Well, I have an idea about that. I mean, it's not, it was just Dan's idea, but the four directions across that's the root of the swastika, that's pretty commonly used, even in Native American culture, as like, you know, cardinal points, right? This is more Southeast War. So this could be a symbol for the passage of time.

Here's this guy's turning the cardinal points turn rotation of the earth exactly along with the points of the The compass now, that's what I that's just an idea I mean that doesn't it doesn't really add a whole lot of context to it as far as you know I Why not just have a cross then up now left right is an increase that a geometric pattern is evil and

Yeah, not just a geometric pattern, but a mustache. It's funny. It's funny. It's like your beard is fine. Nobody has any problems with it. But imagine like if like, oh, you have a wizard beard. You believe in child sacrifice. Yeah. It's very strange what we've done. And obviously that's how horrific Hitler was.

So here's something people need to understand. I wanna emphasize this point. Hitler, people need to look in the details. He was looking for giants in Africa. They did, they set a mission to look for the- Well, he was also on meth. Yeah, yeah. I mean, okay. I'd be looking for giants in Africa too, as I'm- Bro! We're gonna go find dinosaurs and fucking go!

I love it. The thing is, though, it's like, I have not found an answer on why he was looking for the Ark of the Covenant. He was looking for Thor's hammer and the Holy Grail. And the thing is to me, I'm like, I don't, what did hit, I feel like there's something that they knew about ancient history that we don't. I don't know if this is true or not, but I feel like I can't find a straight answer. And let me tell you this, if you go Googling for answers on Hitler's interest in archeology. The FBI comes knocking at you. Sure.

What do you have to, Jimmy? You're going to find the same article. So this is actually kind of explosive. About two years ago, I made a video about Google sabotaging their search results, because remember how we'll show you if you Google some topic will say there's like a billion results. So I made a video on this.

And they would max out at it didn't used to be this way because I remember watching a video years ago of people going thousands of pages to find some blog spot and some topic. It then became limited. I did experiment myself many times on on benign topics such as pancakes was one of them. I typed in pancakes and like a billion result like 700 million results. And then it only go back to page 41. And then it would recycle and

All those pages before it, the dozens of pages, would recycle some of the same exact mainstream articles. And so I did this on all kinds of topics. And now Google has since removed the page numbers. And so you can only just go see more, see more, see more. And so if you Google any type of topic,

And if you're looking for answers on this, they're going to keep sending you the same regurgitated mainstream article. So I can't find a reliable answer on why Hitler was so invested in ancient history. And again, I don't give a shit about his Aryan stuff. Like, why was he into the cult? Why was he? Yeah, I want to know why he was looking for the Ark of the Covenant.

Well, obviously their engineering was insane. I mean, to this, like, look, so many of our best vehicles that we buy today, the most coveted vehicles came out of Nazi Germany and originally Audi, right? Volkswagen was just Porsche, you know, BMW, Bavarian motor works. I mean, all that shit came from the fucking Nazis. I mean, have you ever seen Hitler's race car? No. Hitler had an Audi race car.

Really? Yeah, man. It's worth, like, a shit ton of money. See if you can find Hitler's race car. But this was, I mean, their engineering was superior. This is the reason why we had Operation Paperclip. So Operation Paperclip, we brought over all of the best Nazi rocket scientists. One's at the Commodore von Braun. Yeah, that's how we got NASA. We got NASA, essentially, from Nazis.

That's his original race car. Isn't that fucking crazy? But that was basically a V2 rocket. That's an Audi, right? Isn't that what was the Osamur say these bends? Did he have more than one? I believe he had a later one that that's it. That's the one.

Wow. So that one had the Audi symbol in the front of it. Can you just clarify your pronouns so I know not to be offended that you're interested in this? I'm being him. I'm an American man. We're coming to you at town. So look at that photograph. Click on that.

Auto Union, I guess that was what Audi's original name was. Isn't that crazy? Look at that car. It's pretty sharp. Pretty fucking dope. I mean imagine in 1939, oh my god, it's probably where it says it's worth 5.5 million pounds. And illegal to sell on so many markets. Is that pounds?

So that is a little sign? So many things. They would be like, oh, that's Hitler's card. No, sorry. We can't have you list on that here, buddy. Well, Tom Segura bought Burke Crusher a cup that apparently was one of Hitler's cups. Like one that he handled? Yeah, really, allegedly. But you know how the fuck do you think? Let's get him in the studio and see this thing.

Yeah, but if you have that, you're a monster. But if you had Genghis Khan sword, you're fucking cool. Yeah, that's actually an interesting, that's a good comparison. I mean, he killed a lot more people. Yeah, 10% of the population of Earth. But he did a long enough ago that you don't hear anybody talking about it. He raped so many people that his DNA is in a giant percentage of people today. It's like 20%. It's something to say.

We've done it before, I forget where the numbers are, but they're really nutty. But the point is, there's something particularly disgusting to us about that one, genocide. And it's really interesting. And you wonder how long it's going to take. Dan Carlin has talked about this in depth.

He talks about the Mongols and that it's so far in the past. You know, we're talking about like 1200 AD. It's so far in the past that we look at it with almost like an objective perspective instead of a moral perspective. So we say, you know, one thing that Genghis Khan did that was great. He opened up trade to the East and he was a believer of all religions. You could practice anything. He didn't impose anything on people.

Everybody fucking killed everybody. Like if you were alive back then it's way worse than Hitler. He killed 10% of the population of Earth, but the Nazis were so recent. You know, we have grandfathers that are alive today that fought in World War II and they can tell you, you know, like, hey man, I fucking remember this shit. And then we have Jews like Irish Fears Dad, who was in the concentration camps. Irish Fears Dad has a tattoo in his arm. That's wild. Yeah.

His dad's in his 80s, I believe. Wow. That recent memory is a big part. Like I see the other as Thompson stuff on your wall. You read his book of Hell's Angels. Yeah. Yeah. You remember him talking about that aspect of it that the bikers, the Hell's Angels rocked Nazi memorabilia. The guy, he asked the guy, why? Why don't you? He's like, because my dad fought the Nazis and he fucking hates this. So I wear this because I wear this to piss off my dad.

Oh, a lot of that is contrarians, you know, but that's that's my point is is that you know He wouldn't a Genghis Kong symbol wouldn't be doing any good, right? Right. It's this this has this has an emotional attachment Genghis Kong's mustache would be fine on me, right? People might laugh at me a little bit, but I don't even know what it looked like. Yeah, let's see it I don't know what he looks like. Yeah Yeah, it's the the Nazi thing the the fact that it's so horrific it just like puts

anyone who has anything to say that's coloring outside the line. So you get labeled the Holocaust denier and anti-Semite, you know, the worst labels that they can put on you. And a good example that is that podcast. Oh, God, forget his name.

But it was the Tucker Carlson controversy where he had this guy on his podcast and he was talking about what William Churchill's role in the Holocaust was because they had put these embargoes on Germany and basically starving everybody to death.

And they just started calling him a Holocaust denier. And it's like not what he was talking about at all. That's not what he was saying at all. He was just saying, no, there's there's a multifaceted explanation for why they decided to exterminate all these Jews. And part of it was because of an embargo where they were starving people out. What is his?

Darryl Cooper. And what is this podcast called? It's excellent. I listen to it all the time, but my brain is not working right now. I just got out of the gym. Come on, meet him. I know what you're talking about. I know I can't, I've drawn a blank on it as well.

martyred that's right martyred and he's martyred on twitter and instagram and you know to call that guy an anti-seminor or a hulk us are so stupid he's a brilliant guy and his podcast is excellent and he's really sensitive and well-balanced and he gives a very comprehensive view of things that it's not in any way like prejudice

It's a great podcast, but you're not allowed to color outside the lines. Well, yeah, that's all he's he was just saying that Churchill was one of the villains. Yeah. And that's very that's that's realistic. Like the multiple different reasons for that you tighten up their belt. They're going to that's not going to be passed to the top. That's going to go straight to the people in the camps. Exactly. It's it's real. That's and that's no brainer share. Right. Not just to find the murder of all those Jews. That's not what he's doing. That's what's so crazy about stifling discourse.

Yeah, cuz that was a fascinating conversation and we should be considering that like wow, that's crazy There were so many factors so many horrible things going on all together Well, they say you're supposed to learn from history But how the fuck are you gonna learn from history if you actually take the lessons out of it, right? I mean, this is a important thing here You think about this right now with the stuff that in the Middle East in the last 20 years where every time we put them

embargo on there. We are. We're not starving Saddam Hussein. We're starving the people in his freaking prison. So remember that Dave Smith was talking about on a podcast recently that during the Clinton administration, the embargoes starved to death 500,000 children. Yeah. See, that's fucked. Yeah. And that's worth remembering it. It doesn't if having that conversation makes somebody call you a Holocaust denier, that person should be out of the conversation, in my opinion. Right. And like you were saying, academia is chock full of this. And they should be ashamed.

They should be shamed by people who want to know the whole picture. It's the opposite of knowledge. It's certainly not condoning holocaust. It's so stupid to not be looking at everything. The good news is that people are waking up to this.

A lot of people think just like us, where they're objective enough to understand that, well, that's silly. And so they're putting themselves in a corner in this echo chamber where people just aren't listening to them anymore. When it comes to mainstream archeology, we call it big archeology, establishment archeology, they're putting themselves into a corner where people, if I'm gonna ask questions about the swastika and you're gonna say I'm spreading dangerous Nazism.

Some people will buy into it, but I've noticed that most people are like, no, he's asking a question. Well, we have the internet now. We have shows like yours and yours and mine where you can have conversations about things and people get to see, oh, these people that are in control, they're all lunes and they're all telling us that you have to think this one way or you're the worst person on earth. And I don't buy it. No, it's a dumb way to look at the world.

It's un-American, sorry. It really is. The flag for a second, but yeah. It really is. I live in a country where I can have somebody with their pronouns and their fucking bio and somebody who's not with their problem. We can both yell at each other and not have us end up in jail over it. It's also this position that people have when they're teachers, when they're educators, and they have this position, you know, and I can speak to it a little bit from martial arts because in martial arts, when I first started doing martial arts, it was in the 1980s,

In the 1980s, every discipline believed they had the very best discipline. All the judo people thought judo was the only martial art you needed to know. All the karate people thought karate was it. Taekwondo people where I came from. They all believed in Taekwondo.

And it took the UFC to slam everything together and go, oh, Jesus, half of this stuff is fucking useless. And you know, some of it's not useless, right? There were some things from like John Jones won the UFC heavyweight title this past weekend with a Taekwondo kick. It was amazing. Yeah. That was unbelievable. And I stopped so happy because that was my thing. So me watching him do that was like, yes, why are more people doing this? Like you guys should have been doing this from the beginning. It's the most powerful kick in the sport.

But you were in trouble if you trained in other disciplines. Like Bruce Lee was a heretic. And he's probably one of the most important figures in martial arts, not just because he introduced people to it like myself who became martial artists because I was a Bruce Lee fan.

He also combined all kinds of different martial arts, and that was Jeet Kune Do. He developed a style that was essentially, he took Western boxing, he took some judo that he learned and karate, and all these different techniques and just tried to find what is the absolute best thing for just fighting.

And he was a heretic. His life was threatened for that. And it's because the educators want to be the only people that can distribute information. And they don't want to be challenged. When I was in high school, I had a teacher. His name was Mr. Holman. He was a very nice guy. But he was a smart guy that wanted to be the only smart guy.

And he was great talking to me because I was a stupid kid. But unfortunately, one day, I had watched documentary. And I've always had a very good ability to recall things. And we were in class, and he was talking about the pollution in Lake Erie.

And I had just watched a documentary about the extensive work that they had done to clean up Lake Erie and that they'd made these huge strides in removing pollution and crap and all these different things from Lake Erie. And he was talking about stuff that he had learned in school 20 years prior.

And so when I was, I said, well, you know, there's a PBS documentary and I brought this up in class where there's been this extensive work and they talked about the amazing accomplishments of cleaning up Lake Erie and he got so mad at me. I'm like, you're not mad at me, man. You're mad at PBS. Like, I don't fucking do any research. I watched the documentary, but back then you could say, you don't know what you're talking about and I couldn't pull my phone out and go, oh, but what?

Look at that. He could watch it, dude. These people have done amazing work cleaning up Lake Erie. But he didn't want anyone else to have any information. What he should have said is, that's fascinating. I haven't seen that documentary. Can you recall the name of it? Let's see if we can get it. Maybe show it to the class. I'm going to try to do that because that's great. That's a good sign. What I'm talking about is what Lake Erie had become because of industrial engineering.

and because of pollution and waste that was coming from all these plants. So he was true, he was correct, but time had changed and he did not like that I knew that and he didn't know that. And I remember being in that class going, this is so crazy. This is my fucking science teacher. My science teacher doesn't want details. He doesn't want facts.

This happened to me, so I was in the military years ago, and it wasn't long after I got home from Iraq, and I was going to warrior leadership course, which is to become an E-5 as sergeant. And back then, they were teaching ABC, which is airway bleeding. What was the other one? Circulation, whatever. And for emergency medical response, if someone's dying. And they had since updated where bleeding is the most important thing to focus on, because soldiers were bleeding out. And during this warrior leadership course, they're teaching the class

30 people wrong information has since outdated. And I try to interject to say, Oh, this is what they're teaching now. It was the same exact thing that happened. He didn't stop. You know, this is what this is what's written down right here. I'm like, no, but that's not even what they're teaching in theater right now. Like I'm trying to, this is this is medical emergency stuff that could save someone's life. And he didn't want to hear it one bit. I couldn't believe it. I was astonished.

But they have said that's interesting. I did not know that we need to update what we're showing you. These three factors are the same, but now we know. Thank you, Jimmy. Now we know that bleeding is more primary. That should bid the, that's the response of a real leader. Right. And they're a real leader. You look, there's, you're always going to have blowhards in your class that are going to want to hear their own voice. They want to talk about stuff and chime in and correct people. And you

But you got to let a certain amount of that. And that's the Internet. And people don't like that. And that's why they wanted to ban people from Twitter. They don't like these people coming along that have ideas that like the Great Barrington Declaration, where they, you know, the government actually conspired to get these people removed from Twitter.

And we know that because Elon, thank God, bought Twitter and changed discourse. But this was a concerted effort to take these people who were brilliant people who had degrees where experts in this field that they were discussing and they decided they were going to remove them because they didn't go along with the narrative and they were confusing people at a time

where they're trying to force vaccinations on everyone. Right. The emotion side of it from the individual levels, like what you guys describe, you have a teacher, there was emotional reaction, that's a huge part of it. But when the, that's a huge part of it when, especially with archaeology, because a lot of it's not really hard science, a lot of it's like, I've got this arrowhead here and I've conjured up this story. And so now it's my story and you're not attacking the science, you're attacking me.

But it gets even worse when you look at it, what they get like this hate for Graham Hancock, in particular Graham Hancock, that makes it where it's like, you can't trust a damn word that comes out of their mouth when they're discussing. Like if we were talking back to the martial arts, you know, one of the things that came out was a keto was just ass. It's no good at all for like man-to-man combat. It's what was, for like, samurai's that had been knocked off a horse or some shit. Well, it was designed to redistribute the energy of your attacker.

Okay. So if someone's coming at you with a sword, if you don't have a sword and a guy swings a sword and you're fast enough to get away from the path of the sword and grab the guy's arm or body and manipulate him to the ground to remove a sword.

It's essentially a disarming... Okay, so it's not the best thing in the world. It just doesn't work against a wrestler. Okay, so... And that makes it way better. And wrestling is the... If you want to find out the best way to take a person to the ground in control, we 100% know it's wrestling. Yeah, you just grab the most ancient sport in the world that dates back to the Sumerians.

And by the way, wrestling and wrestling, I include judo. I include different forms of jujitsu that were ancient because these allowed people to manipulate limbs and to control joints, which allowed them also to take people down and submit them. But the point is,

You, you, you know, had a bunch of people believing that this one goofy ass martial art was the end all be all because of a good Steven Seagal movie. Exactly. No, no. My point was there is it's like you're considered pretty much an expert in martial arts. You're not like, you're a professional announcer for UFC. You know your shit. So if I watched you say Steven Seagal, you know, his martial arts, it's fucking a keto man. I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, but I would not do that. I would tell you, Steven Seagal was really good. Yeah.

Really good at Akito, but if you were if you If you hated Stephen Seagal, if you were one of his many haters You could just attack Akito without ever saying his name and just be digging him a ditch, right? You could just be burying him without ever mentioning Stephen Seagal's name You could just attack Akito Akito is a ship martial art. It's it's not effective It's not very good and then by extension you're making Stephen Seagal look bad and this is one of their favorite taxes to do to Hancock

They will attack, this idea is racist. It's inherently bullshit. They don't have to mention Hancock's names. They're so insidious this way. Yeah, and they're connecting Hancock to white supremacy and aliens, the dumbest one.

Because first of all, he never said nothing about aliens. And not only that, not only does he not think of it as white people built this stuff, he thinks it's the people that live there, but they live there a long ass time ago. It's the same fucking people. It's Africans. Whoever built the pyramids, they were Africans. Like I'm an American. Let me just remind the audience. Egypt is an Africa.

Yeah, that is northern Africa, and it's the most sophisticated construction we have ever witnessed on the face of the earth. Anybody that disagrees, you need to really study what they accomplished. Just in the great pyramid, it's mind-boggling precision. It's not just the incredible feat of moving massive stones, hundreds of miles through the mountains. It's the mind-boggling precision of the construction of these buildings that

It's so crazy. It's almost like they made it so nutty that even if everything dissolved and expired, it would give us at least some clue that maybe something happened. Maybe people had achieved a level of sophistication. And my thought is, and this is just a guess, is that as we move towards metal and we move towards

using different kinds of combustion engines and electronics, we moved in a very specific area of technology. And we were allowed to do this because things have been relatively peaceful for a couple hundred years. Relatively peaceful. And also, there's war in other places, so it allowed us to spend our time here devising ways to fuck up people over there. That's the Manhattan Project. But if you have a completely different

avenue that thinking goes in and innovation goes in. And instead of combustion engines and electronics, you have something that we haven't even considered. And that to me seems like what Egypt is. It seems to me that they have this incredibly fertile area

So if people look at Egypt now, you're looking at all the sand and all the shit, that is not what it looked like. In the thousands of years before the construction of the pyramid, it was a rainforest, and it was fertile. And so my thought is these people probably had plenty of food, and so they didn't have to go anywhere.

And so they weren't attacked that often, the Nubians conquered them, and that's when the statues started changing, looking more southern African. But you have these people that live in this incredibly resource-rich place, and they were able to spend thousands of years there.

And I think in those thousands of years, they devised methods that we still haven't even considered because we went in a different path and we can't consider any other paths. We consider our path and we say, well, we're the furthest, we live today. So those fuckers in the past, they're basically cave people, right? That's how we look at it. Yeah, they look like dumb people playing the stones. They were silly.

They use stones because they weren't smart enough to use metal. It's like when you look at the details of stone, it's like, you could say it's more impressive. Well, we wanted to talk about go Beckley Tepi. And go Beckley Tepi is not just fascinating in its construction, but also in the timeline. Because the timeline fucked everything up. I remember when Graham Hancock and Zawi Hawass were having that big debate with that other guy who's an archaeologist, the American guy's very smug. But he's like, what evidence do you have of a civilization that lived 10,000 years ago? Well, you have one now.

Yeah. So you have to shut the fuck up because you were wrong. So in the 1990s, the sheep herder finds this stone and he starts kicking it and moving it around and he realizes, wow, this is a big ass stone. I probably bring in some smart dudes to figure this out and they start digging and they go, oh, Jesus, this is these huge circles of giant stone columns with 3D carved animals on them at a time that we thought people were living in teepees.

Right? We thought people had stone tools. We didn't think there was any metal. We thought it had to be done the opposite way around. We thought you needed to be a hunter-gatherer, a former, and then you could build. And now they had to flip that entire shit on its ear. Well, actually, maybe. I think they only flipped that shit on its ear to try to make it look like they were right about the timeline of hunter-gatherer. I completely agree. And to ignore the possibility of an ancient civilization before Mesopotamian. I completely agree.

Because it's the only thing that makes sense. There's no way when you're just struggling to find food, okay? And if you've ever gone on a fishing trip or a hunting trip, it's fucking hard to get food. When you have modern stuff. It's hard to get food with a rifle, right? So these people were getting food and

they somehow or another in between them while like running around trying to shoot rabbits with a bow and arrow. They figured out how to make these massive stone columns and put them in position and move them in circles and hundreds of them. Pretty great artists doing some relief carvings. I mean that's not the same as just carving it. The animals that would be local to the area which is like how do you even fucking know this is a thing?

What is this? So, Gobekli Tepe, brother, if there is such a thing as an ancient conspiracy theory, it's this. So, I remember hearing Graham Hancock come on your show back in like 2015 or 2017, and he was talking about Gobekli Tepe. And at that time, he had shared that the site was only approximately 5% excavated.

It's the first video on my channel. It's like August 2017, and I share the details of it. These pillars, dates back 11,600 years. It appears to be purposely buried at the same time of the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe. This is fascinating.

And, you know, excavations were continuing. So I'm like, okay, I'm going to backburn this topic of go-backly tepi for a little while, let them further their excavations, and I'll revisit this later when there's something new to share. So earlier this summer, I'm like, all right, let me revisit go-backly tepi and see what's new there. And I was astonished to learn that that 5% figure was still the same.

Have you heard

still the same as of 2023. I had partnered one, there's a lady who does tours there and corroborate the 5% figure. And then there's a gentleman named Hugh Newman, who's an author and also leads tours. And he communicated with me that what they were going to do, and I couldn't believe this, they're going to defer a full scale excavation for, quote, future generations with a 150 year estimated timeframe for a full excavation of Gobekli Tepe. And I'm like, wait a second.

Are you serious? Like this makes no sense. We're talking about arguably not just the world's oldest ancient site, but arguably the most mysterious because it's like you're just it's not supposed to exist. Based on everything we're taught in school, it's supposed to be the Sumerians. And then you have the site to go back Lee Tepe made up of sophisticated pillars and concentric circles. At least 5,000 years older.

Yeah, that older than almost 7,000 years older than Stonehenge and Stonehenge is a mystery of itself. So I start looking in, I start Googling and looking into the details. I'm like, this doesn't make any sense. How could there possibly be, how could they defer excavations for future generations when this may be the most important ancient site on earth involving our lost, our mysterious lost ancient past.

And so I started digging into this, and I couldn't believe what I found. So they were doing large-scale excavations, but that has since ceased. Just to clarify, they are still excavating Gobekli Tepe, but they have rolled and dialed back the large-scale excavations of the years prior, and they are focusing on conservation and tourism management of the site. And like I said, with 150-year time frame, and I'm like, wait a second.

I can't, and I have all the screen shots in that folder. Because of funding? Absolutely not. So not only have they never claimed that it's related to funding, but this is where things get bizarre is that there's a Turkish conglomerate called the Dojus Group, which consists of 250 companies within Turkey. It's a billion dollar industry. And they're the ones that took over management and funding of the site back in 2017.

And they announced this at all places, the World Economic Forum meeting in Davos in 2016 is when they announced this partnership, initial funding of $15 million. At that time, they set up the infrastructure for tourism, roads, sidewalks, walkways, roofing platforms. And since then is when they dialed back the excavations.

And I'm like, this makes absolutely no sense. So let me just be crystal clear here. It has nothing to do with funding, and they've never claimed it has anything to do with funding. But their excuses, they have said, one of which, is that, well, we want to wait for future technologies to develop so we can more safely excavate the site. And I'm like, wait a second. Hold on a second.

We're talking about pillars buried in dirt. It's 2024. Do not tell me that we do not have the technological capability to act up to dig rocks up. What would be an alternative explanation? So, okay. This is where things get fun. Boy. So.

Let me say a couple of things before I get into it. One of which is that them saying that they're waiting for a future technology to develop to safely excavate the site, I'm like, what type of magical shovel or pressure, water hose are we talking about here? And since they're saying that they're continuing to excavate the site today,

Since they're saying they continue to excavate the site today, I'm like, well, which is it? Are you saying that you're doing so in unsafe methods? And I already know that's not the answer because there's been no issue with distracting the site from digging it up. It's not like they broke a pillar and like, oh, dang, wait a second, we need to walk this back. We're not doing things safely. That's not that's not the case here. So there are a few explanations here. Okay. That's what I want to hear.

So, one of which is that the most logical explanation, this is the less conspiratorial one, which is that it has to do with money. You have this Turkish conglomerate of people that are saturated with members of the World Economic Forum, for example, the CEO of the Dogeus Group is a longtime member of the World Economic Forum. That may backburn the World Economic Forum for a half a second.

their business people they took over the site and it's all about money now that back in twenty nineteen go back the topic at approximately nineteen thousand visitors yearly now it's at half a million their focus if nothing else they're just trying to read bring revenue in it's all about money yet they don't care about it's been restless and more million it's not gonna bring fifteen more million revenue right and and they just want their money back okay but i'm like well this is that makes sense it does make sense

But the way, you know, that real quick, it also the mystery plays that side is probably the second most popular place in the planet with people like ourselves. And the more mystery is there, the more money it's the more like, you know, we did deal in mystery. So if there's if they excavate everything and we know everything there is about that side and it's all super mundane and there's nothing cool about it anymore, that that that tip dries up and there's no more. But how could it ever stop being angry? It doesn't make any sense. I agree with that. But that one doesn't make any sense.

That's a Zahi Hawass kind of thing. He's of the same opinion where I think a lot of the same things, excuse me, happen in Egypt for the same reason. Zahi Hawass is quoted with saying that those new age people, it doesn't matter what happens in Egypt, the new age people they come. It's about tourism. You know, ever since the Arab Spring tourism and Egypt's been lower. So I think a lot of the same, like that we're going to talk in a minute about the hidden chamber in the pyramid that they've located and still haven't excavated for whatever fucking reason. I think that might be part of it. If you want to get super mundane and not conspiratorial, it's just a simple

The tourists keep coming while there's a mystery there. As soon as we open that up, it's just an empty chamber. So I don't think I don't buy that. The mystery of the structures themselves that we have completely excavated is just so fascinating. So let me be clear on Gobekli Tepe. It's somewhere between 5 and 10% excavated.

Which means that so here's it says some archaeological sites that were only 10% or less have been uncovered. None of which date back anywhere near remotely as old as Gobekli Tepe. And so just to put this into perspective, Gobekli Tepe, according to ground pedagurning radar, consists of approximately 200 T-shaped pillars. Only 72 of them have been on Earth. And as of just a few years ago, they're, they're dialing that back to fully excavate them, which again, the 150 year timeframe. And I'm like, this is entirely unacceptable.

It is, there could be hidden answers about our lost ancient past waiting to be discovered on these pillars because all the pillars are trying to tell us some sort of story. They all have depictions, animals, all kinds of things on there. There's the shaman with the bag. Right, which is very interesting. Right, we've seen that from the Sumerians. We've seen in South America. The bag thing is very fascinating. It is. It's hotly debated. Yeah, I'm sure. I mean, you could say maybe it's a tool bag. You could say maybe it's psychedelics. He's gotten that bag. Academic say it says water.

The water, it's a water, it's a water bucket. You guys from me with the work of Martin. He's the one that he was on ancient apocalypse season one for a minute. He's the guy who made basically a star map of that pillar 43. And in his opinion, those three handbags at the top were three sunrises.

And if that's the case that would almost make sense because then they're like a picture of an Assyrian holding that would be like holding of astronomical knowledge like this this symbol could have been a symbol of knowledge of The strong me, which is one thing honestly about go back to that book bag. It could have been a book, right? I mean it kind of makes sense. They probably had to travel around with their books. So here's the thing that pillar that's just one pillar of 200 and here we are debating we don't even know what it is. It's all conjecture.

So we can see what that pillow looks like. So this Gobekli Tepi situation is far more bizarre than than we've described so far. I think the logical explanation knows that you have massive tourist revenue coming to see it as is why spend more money and excavate these things. I think that's the most of the pillar. I think that's the most logical explanation, but it could be more insidious than that because

So that's one pill. That's just, that's Pillar 43, the most debated one of them all. And there's approximately 128 more pillars that are still buried in the earth. What's that bird doing holding the earth? That Dr. Martin Sweatman, his first paper on Go Beckley Tepes Pillar 43, he's got Scorpio in the bottom. He believes that Sagittarius, that that's the sun. And if that that's one, basically it's a star map denoting the time that the comet smacked the earth is what he believes.

Each one of those V's, his latest paper on it, each one of those V symbols is a day, each one in his opinion, each one of those boxes is a month. And there is basically a full year denoting the whole thing of the way he's broke. That's very interesting stuff. And one interesting thing that's wild to me when we talk about like the lack of further excavations is almost every pillar we bring up has new symbols, new symbols, new iconography.

If we're trying to find some sort of ancient proto-language or something, we need more symbols. We need more things on Earth. And that's completely opposed by the mainstream archaeology, the idea that these guys had any sort of written language is fucking ridiculous. What are the theories involved in? I know it's been theorized that it was purposely covered.

It really looks like it. If you look at pictures of the excavation, it looks like it was all piled in with stones and dirt, because if it was some sort of natural event, it would have destroyed the pillars. The pillars are preserved. So it wasn't just blown in with dust. If you look at its gravel, and like as Graham Hancock has explained, that Klaus Schmidt, the original excavator of the site before his untimely passing in 2014,

The people that have worked the site believe it was intentionally buried. That is debated in academia today. But isn't there also carbon isotope dating of the ground soil that shows it's the same age throughout the entire whatever feat it is of the dirt that's covering it? And so it's very apparent that it was purposely buried. And what's interesting about that is that it coincides exactly with the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe. So if you want an alternative

idea on so okay we could talk about slides no because it would destroy those those pillars knock them over at least yeah that's that I've seen that in Iraq with the statues so we'll share let's talk about this in a second this is so this is where things get wild so that's before the excavation this is an aerial photo from what yours is that should be 2004

Or actually, no, excuse me, that would be a no, before 1994. They started excavations in 1994, 1995. So that is when it was just dirt. Correct. Everybody thought it was just a regular hillside, which just makes you wonder how many more there are out there. Well, they're finding dozens of other sites around Turkey. They're even older. Oh, yeah, all in place.

Even older. So let me tell you a few different things about Gobekli Tepe. When you bring up pictures of the pillars, notice how they all annotate animals on them. Now this is a fun topic and I have a few other things to share. One of which is that if you want to talk about reasons not to excavate it, I'll give you two possibilities. And this is just conjecture. I don't know what the answer is. Let me say this up front.

But part of it could have a religious implication, as well as a climate change implication. Let me start with that. So we know it is an established fact that the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe happened between 12,800 and 11,600 years ago. We know that there was vast changes in weather patterns throughout the Northern Hemisphere. The only part of it that's debated, as well as near extinction events or extinction events of many different mammals in North America.

What we know is that something happened, whatever it is, is what's debated, whether it's a cosmic impact, whether it's a pull shift, whether it's sun cycles, all kinds of conjecture all the way around. But when I mentioned the WEF, they are the biggest proponents of the man-made climate change narrative. They're the ones that want to get rid of gas-powered stoves. They want us to get rid of vehicles. They are pushing their initiatives around the world, and they believe that we're destroying the planet. I'm not saying they're entirely wrong, but I don't agree with their ways of going about it, but that's a side point.

But here's the thing. When you look at the legend of Noah's flood, and Noah's ark, excuse me, Noah's ark and the flood, so I'm not suggesting that there was a flood that covered every mountain on earth, and nor am I suggesting that there was a boat that housed every species of animal on earth. However, if Noah's ark existed,

many believe that it was crashed onto Mount Arrat, which is also in Turkey. And something fascinating is that in the Bible in Genesis 8, 20, some of the first verses after Noah emerged from the flood is that he was said to have constructed an altar to the Lord where he sacrificed some of every clean animal and some of every clean bird.

Gobakli Tepe is in Turkey and every single one of those pillars annotates animals and some have suggested that it could be Noah's altar. Now that could be one reason why they want to excavate it is because Turkey is in an Islamic country and if there were some

Christian religious belief that was corroborated, they might not want that to happen. Another possibility is that the site itself might corroborate the Younger Dryas climate catastrophe. And when we're in a time frame where they don't, they don't like talking academics. They don't like talking about cataclysms. They want to pretend they don't, they didn't happen. They want everything to be manmade climate change. They don't ever talk about the Sahara being green 5,000 years ago, like when you're talking about Egypt being a rainforest.

They find whale bones in this. Oh, no, Joe, those are 30 million years old. So stop talking about it. You know, it's amazing when you think about it. Yeah. And so as far as the climate change narrative.

There could be a possibility that they don't want the evidence of a prehistoric civilization that was more advanced than what we ever thought to believe that might corroborate some Christian narratives. And if nothing else, they don't want it to be brought into the discussion of modern day climate change. Because notice on the topic of climate change, they never mention natural stuff. They don't discuss the Milankovic cycles, which consists of three variables, one of which is the Earth's procession, the other is the Earth's tilt, and the other is the distance

from the earth from the sun, all three of those variables are constantly changing every single day, although immeasurable day by day, they happen over tens of thousands of years. But each individual of those variables impact climate on earth. For example, when it talk about the green Sahara, they believe the most likely reason has to do with the Earth's processional cycle. I'm like, well, wait a second.

Where is this in the conversation of modern-day climate change? If we're talking about us destroying the planet, I would just like an answer as far as where these three variables are in the conversation. Did you see the Washington Post's very inconvenient data that they published about the temperature of Earth?

No, please tell me. You find the Washington Post climate study. They found that we're in a massive cooling period. If you go back, you know, X amount of 100,000 years and you look at like what's happening to you. Yeah, it goes in cycles, but that's what it looks like now. Right. So there's climate over the last four and 85 million years. Look at the dip we're in and look how it's never static.

It's down and up and down and up and down and up all throughout the history of the earth, which is measurable. It's not to say that we don't have an impact on it. We definitely do. Pretty sharp increase there. But here's the thing, even if we didn't. But there's sharp increases in the past. Look at those back. Look at 390 million years ago. Look at that giant peak.

That's fucking crazy. That's straight up and down. It's always happened. It's not like it's static and then industrial engineering comes along and then you see this big increase. Oh boy, what are we doing in the earth? No, it's like even if we didn't do anything, we have no control over the temperature of the earth. And what's really terrifying, Randall Carlson talks about this all the time, is global cooling.

That's what's really terrifying. When global warming happens, oh no, you gotta move out of Malibu. You gonna be okay? He kinda moved to places where it used to be called, and now it's warm, because humans have always been nomadic. That's the whole reason why we're not in Africa anymore.

Right, so global killing will kill, global cooling will kill everything. And we came, Randall talks about this, that we came very close at one point in human history. We came very close to losing the oxygen that's required to literally keep life.

Jamie, will you bring up my ice age or ice folder? So I have an update from you from the last time I was on your podcast. Go over to the graph to be one of the first slides in it. That one. Hang out right there for a second. So when I was on your show last time, Joe, I discussed, I said something very specific where I said, I think this is my exact words.

I think the data might indicate that cold is more often than it's hot. Do you know what happened after that? I was going to send this to you, but I held off because you've seen enough hit pieces. There was a hit piece done on me by Media Matters, which was funded by George Soros. They did this hit piece on me to say that Jimmy Corsetti was on Joe Rogan spreading climate change denial and inaccurate information.

The only thing, if you could bring that back up, Jamie, please. The only thing that I said wrong is that I said the data might indicate that the Earth is cold more often than hot. Excuse me, no. The data absolutely definitively shows that Earth is cold more often than it's hot. And what you're looking at here is straight out of the Utah Geological Survey. It's prestigious. It's found at the top of Google. And what you're looking at here is data from the last 450,000 years, corroborated from data taken from ice core samples from Antarctica as well as Greenland.

And what it shows is that not only are we in the middle of a three million year old ice age, there's something called glacial and interglacial. Glacial is where it's cold and the glaciers grow. Interglacial is where things warm and glaciers recede. What you're seeing here is four, arguably five interglacial periods over just the last

450,000 years. So never mind hundreds of millions of years ago. What it shows is that the periods of cooling last seven to nine times longer than interglaceals, which are periods of warming. And here's what the fun part, interglaceals last anywhere from 10 to 30,000 years. And our warming started 11,600 years ago, which means that we're already in the window for potential catastrophe for things to start cooling again. So when I was on your show last time and I was mentioning Elon Musk talking about ice ages being a deep, deep rabbit hole. Do you remember that he was talking about it?

Thank you very much.

Well, I know what he's talking about. It's this. It means that we're already in the window where things could start cooling again, and when it does, we're in a lot of trouble. I think, and I can't speak on his behalf, I would, God, I gotta tell you, could you just text him and ask him if he thinks it's related to pole shifts? I need to tighten up my study on this, because I'm like, I think, because let me tell you something, let me share something right now that you've never heard on this show before. You hear everyone talking about cosmic impact hypothesis? You hear people talking about sun cycles?

Not a lot of people have been on here talking about pull shifts. Let me give a quick shout out to Ben Davidson of Suspicious Observers. I recommend maybe you link up with them. Nobody has researched the topic of pull shifts and sun cycles as much as him. And he brought something to my attention I had never heard before. Jamie, the very first slide that you showed was of the Gothenburg excursion. So there was a partial pull flip right in the middle. See how it dates between 13,007 and 12,003? So the Younger Dry started 12,800 years ago.

and it's right in the middle of that ballpark range. We already know it is established science that when geometric polar excursions happen, it changes weather patterns on Earth as well as the ocean current. Jamie, if you want to Google, there's a space.com article titled that in 2025, some scientists are suggesting that the Earth's ocean currents may stop. Have you heard this? No.

Okay, and nowhere in the articles that they mentioned, anything about pole excursion. So people need to understand that we're already in the middle of a pole excursion, which is a partial pole flip, which means that things are shifting inside the earth. It's also known that that can cause changes in ocean current. Now, most mainstream articles, then we just be fair and tell you what they'll say. They'll say that, oh, no, it's related to manmade climate change. We're changing the currents of the ocean, I don't believe that. But yeah, don't allow to let them take your data. Look at this.

Nowhere in this article to explain why. But here's the thing. People need to understand that the number one thing that affects weather on Earth is, of course, the sun. The second thing is ocean currents. It's the reason why England is relatively temperate. Go back to the cherry.

It's a reason why England is relatively temperate is because the Gulf Stream flows up there and it keeps it relatively warm in comparison. The way it says it here, a key Atlantic current could collapse soon impacting the entire world for centuries to come leading climate scientists warn. So just by saying climate scientists, you're already implying at least this is the result of climate change.

Right. That's what they- Which further fuels this agenda that man-made climate change is the cause of all of our woes. Right. Which is a narrative that you're consistently hearing. And again, to be real clear to someone's gonna say something about this. This is not to dismiss pollution. This is not to dismiss our impact on the atmosphere of the earth and what we're dealing with coal plants and all the bullshit that we're doing. For sure, we're doing bad things. Right. Also, if we weren't,

We have no control over this thing. This thing is constantly moving and both of those things need to be looked at at the same time. The problem is this whole narrative of climate science has been adopted by these same fucking people that want Twitter pronouns.

It's the same people, it's the same sort of thing, and if you have anything to say about it, if you want to talk about a swastika, being an ancient symbol, now you're a Nazi. Now you're a climate denier, you're a vaccine denier, you're this or that, you're a Holocaust denier. It's like the same kind of stupid shit. And unfortunately with this one, this one is uniquely tied to money.

This one is uniquely tied to green agendas and the enormous amount of funding that is going towards these green agendas and people that are profiting off of spreading this narrative.

making hundreds of millions of dollars promoting this idea of climate change being our primary problem. And if you deny it, you're a science denier. And the reason why you shouldn't listen to these people is because they're leaving out the key data involving the first historical

Earth's historical climate data. They're not including all these other details. And so I think people need to look at pole shifts because it's very interesting in this alternative realm that you have people that are proponents of the cosmic impact hypothesis. You have Dr. Robert Shock with the Sun Cycles. You have other people talking about pole shifts. I think people should consider that all the above are correct and let me explain why.

When pull shifts happen, Earth's shields are diminished. We're in the middle of a pull shift right now. The Earth's shields are diminishing and it's been happening since the 1800s. It's been accelerating over the last few decades. This is scientific data. The North Pole is shifting at like almost 40 miles a year when it was half that, just a decade ago. And when the Earth's shields diminish, we are more susceptible to cosmic impacts, because less or... 40 miles a year? Google it. This is real. Wow.

It's happening. I had no idea. I thought it was feed a year. Now, the mainstream will say, don't worry, it's still another thousand years away. And I'm like, they actually can't prove that because we've never, we've never been, we haven't been alive to document a pull shift. But what I'm trying to say is that we should consider the pull shift thing, brother, ask Elon Musk his thoughts on this sometime. Well, he actually just tweeted something about it recently. What do you say?

He tweeted something about the magnetic poles. Oh, my God. Yeah. He tweeted something about, um, I think he actually retreated the core of the earth. What's his face? I forget his name, but you were just shot. Ben Davidson. I'm pretty sure he retweeted Ben Davis. Oh, we need to find that out. If that's the case, because here's the

I don't know. He does it too much. It's less effective because I'm like, I missed stuff. And I follow him closely, actually. There you go. Look at this. Oh, look at this. Which of vast ball molten rock earth core, which generates most of our magnetic field is 85% iron and moves independently from the surface plates, which is why the magnetic pole changes position.

I love Brian Ramelli. I've seen his name right. We follow each other. He's a great guy. I think Elon Musk is giving a hint here because you remember how the Northern Lights were visible as far south as Mexico recently in the last few months? That was from solar activity, right? Right. But the reason why it's more visible now is because the earth shields are diminishing.

This is I'm not making this isn't like from Bob's website. This is this is this is mainstream science. Again, Ben Davison has taught me a lot on this and he was actually on with Alex Jones not long ago. And he really blew Alex Jones's mind. He vetted him. And so what I'm trying to say here is that like this is not being brought into the equation of man made climate change at all.

Well, because of all the things we were talking about, the educators want to be the only ones that distribute the information, and they don't want to look at the full picture. They only want to look at this one thing for the greater good of all of us. It's better if you just get people to only focus on getting an electric car. I've always, ever since I started doing this stuff, I've had people that are like, hey, man, you fact check scientists. We want you in the climate change debate. And I've always had the opinion of, like, look,

I'm talking about big old rocks and move it. There's zero skin in the game. And if I'm wrong about that, nothing changes. But if I'm wrong about climate change and I get a bunch of people, I feel a little like it's not your area of expertise and there's too much skin in the game. But when I did the debunking of flit dibbles, debunking of Graham, the part about the metallurgy, I spoke with an ice core specialist and I'll there ain't but a handful of these dudes on the planet, literally just a handful. That was a very important part of your debunking.

Oh, thanks. I appreciate that. You're the guy that blew the roof on that. You're the guy that contacted firsthand. Well, let's explain what you did. Well, I spent an hour on a zoom chat with the dude because what Flynn had said was that there was no proof of metallurgy in the ice age. And well, of course, there's no proof of it. But he said that we can prove definitively there was no metallurgy. And that's where it's like, well, no, because they look for levels of lead and levels of lead graph you just showed with the interglacial periods. Lead follows that because when there's

more dust on the ground, the reason they believe is they're more dust on the ground, more gets kicked up, more ends up in the glaciers. But that's the same dirt that would be kicked up if they were digging for iron, right? So either way, you're going to end up with more lead in the glaciers. So I talked to this ice core specialist for an hour on Zoom and I'm like, man, so I

I've flushed this out for you, explained to me. So he explains to me how they determine whether or not leads from an anthropogenic origin or if it's natural. And that's based on if there's an archeological site that they can match the other isotopes to. He went through all the troubles with it. He even lamented having, he's got other people in his field that are hardcore anti-pseudo science because their, you know, climate change deniers are dealing with. And so he's all, he's like, and he's like, some of these guys are just too zealous, overzealous with it. I get where you're coming from.

But then I put the video out, and Flint contacts the dude, and next thing you know. Well, you know, I didn't exactly say it, though. He doesn't change what he says. He just kind of implies that I wasn't quite being active. He doesn't give a full anything. It makes it vague all of a sudden, and quite clear. He was pressured from a fucking archaeologist. He's a climate scientist. Why do you care? Because they're all part of the same little

Twitter, keyboard warrior. Yeah, Twitter, call members. Yeah. And that, that right there changed my attitude on like, I changed my attitude on the whole global warming thing. I was like, that's probably accurate. And I was like, ah, you know, I don't fucking know. And I don't have to dig into this. Cause I don't trust you sons of bitches anymore. I know that if somebody pressured him from upstairs, he would have crumpled like a bag. Cause he sure did when Flint pushed him. So.

The issue is that it's not like there's one explanation that could conceivably have caused this massive cataclysm. There's probably a lot of variables. Just like there's always been. I mean, we always like to conveniently ignore super volcanoes. When one of those blows, the whole world's fucked. The country's dead. Everyone's fucked.

You should consider the possibility that that's related to pull shifts as well. And I could give you a point. There's one that happened. You know, I've heard you talk about before, the Toba super eruption. Yeah. Yeah. Did you know that happened at the same time of a geomagnetic pull excursion? Oh boy. Well, it makes sense. You're having all this movement.

There's movement inside the Earth. A full pole shift is when they believe that the inner most portion of the molten within the Earth core shifts. A geomagnetic pole excursion is a partial pole flip, which they theorize is related to the outer portion of the mantle.

The Earth's crust sits on top of molten everything. And when that shifts, it shifts our compasses, and it's not unreasonable to suggest that when something shifts inside the Earth, it would affect things on the surface. I touched on this in the last time I was on, but when it comes to earthquakes as an example.

Some originate in the crust, which is like 28 miles at its thickest, I believe, or on average. And others originate in the molten outer portion of the mantle. Well, if something shifts inside the Earth, why wouldn't it cause issues on the surface, whether it be earthquakes or volcanic activity, and some volcanic activity involving supervolcanoes coincides with geomagnetic pole excursions. And so when I was on your show last time talking about pole shifts along with the ice ages, I was part of the same topic.

Why is it that media matters funded by George Soros decided to do a hit piece on Jimmy Corsetti, the YouTuber? Brother, they came after me hard on this, which I, to be honest, I relished over. I was like, this is hilarious. I'm like, well, they don't understand that it's actually good publicity. It is. And it makes me feel like credible anymore. Right. And it makes me feel like I'm over the target. Because what's that saying about you get the most flack when you're over it? So like, I'm like, it makes me think that I'm onto something because nowhere in any of these climate change topics

the mid, you know, as far as like the narratives on it, do they mention anything natural involving whether it be pole shifts? They sure as hell don't bring up the green Sahara. Um, they don't bring anywhere into the equation. They don't bring up the scientific fact that the earth was warmer 4,000 years ago. There's Nobel prize laureates that are been speaking out about this. There's two of them. Um, Dr. Clouger and there's another gentleman I'm going to draw blank in the top of my head, but like they've shared this data. This is scientific fact and they're getting shunned and ridiculed for it.

Yeah, the problem is there's a consensus that's been politically accepted. And it's been talked about so much. It's a political talking point. And if they lose that political talking point, they lose a large percentage of their platform. Oh, yeah.

Right? There's so many parts of the liberal, the leftist platform that they need to have these narratives. And one of them is climate change. And that Donald Trump is a climate change denier. The right-ring people are climate change deniers. Ergo science deniers, ergo racists, ergoists. It's very, very, very, very stupid. And it's bad for all of us, because I think we all need to have an understanding of how delicate

our environment is, and how delicate life on earth is, and that it is this constantly changing thing that has never been static. We know that, we know about the dinosaurs, we know about all these different things, and we know about the Ice Age, but we don't truly have a comprehensive narrative that everyone accepts. It's become politicized.

And it's become politicized by the worst people because they're the cultists. They're the ones that made not the only ones, but you know, I'm a lot less political than a lot of people in this community. And I said it when when COVID first started getting bad and you could see it on the internet, I was real quick to say, we're gonna be fucking locked down for years, guys.

And everybody's laughing at me, but it's like it's a political football. Neither side is going to drop a square. We don't live in a society of political compromise anymore. We live in a society of give them an inch, they take a mile. Neither side is going to concede one fucking inch on this and we're going to be dealing with the same argument three years from now and blow and behold, we were dealing.

That's what's crazy about this is that data has become politicized. Science and data and knowledge has become politicized. Over 80,000 papers were retracted last year. 80,000 scientific papers. Like 60% of them were medical. The top 10 most still cited papers that have been retracted are all medical.

the medical community is is fucked right now from from covid it turned in on itself and just started if you look at their papers and stuff it's insane there they are all at each other's throats and all kinds of different ways still siding retracted papers and all kinds of goofy little shit because it became a political football we could see it on tiktok you watch a

you watch a nurse come out there and she's going to be doing a little tiktok and you can just look is that a donkey next to her name or an elephant if it's an elephant she can tell you there's nobody in this hospital it's fucking empty it's a donkey she can tell you about the body outside the machine outside making corpse starch out of the fucking dead people that they're they can't bury them as fast as they're dying it's

It was so openly, easily, the average joke could look right through it. Could just see if this is a fucking, this is just an argument between the two parties, isn't it? And they're just transferred this to the medical problem. Well, you remember in the beginning days of the pandemic, when they were really fear-mongering, when they gave a preposterous number of people that were gonna die from COVID? Yes. And what was the percentage at the high point? Was it like three and a half percent or something like that? Or was it 30 percent?

It was something, there's a compilation video, Jamie, see if you can find it, where they're dunking on Donald Trump. Because Donald Trump said, I heard it's less than 1%. He was right. He was totally correct. Quite a bit less than 1%. He was right about the UV stuff too. But I think they were trying to say that it was 34%. I think that's what they were saying. It's 3.4 or 34. I can't remember which. But they were repeating it ad nauseam on television that this was going to be the death rate.

of people that got COVID. It's one of the things that justified the lockdowns. If it really was less than 1%, people go, so it's like, what's the flu? And then you get into the flu, you go, well, what's the percentage difference? It's like 50% difference. OK, what are we doing? Yeah. This is a bad flu. Is that what this is? This is like a bad flu. But you can't say that, or you're some kind of anti-science heritage. You're a terrible person. You're killing grandmas.

You know, if you want to mix it up, Jamie, there's a video. So last time I was on, I mentioned a clip of Donald Trump talking about it's going to get cold again. And we couldn't find the clip at the time, but I have it in my folder, Jamie. It's just Donald Trump. It's in the front with all the other folders. One step at a time. Let's try to find that video of them all repeating the same thing over and over again. It's Brian Stelter, that little weasel on CNN, constantly repeating the fact that Donald Trump doesn't know what he's talking about. He was right.

He was absolutely correct. Donald Trump doesn't just say things out of his butt, like people make him out to believe. I'm not saying he doesn't talk in that way. When he's a rancor, if you're a rancor, you run, it's like you're a podcast. Fair enough. You're talking about your ass every now and again. But he wasn't talking out of his butt with the UV killing off bacteria and viruses.

No, no, he just said it in a way that wasn't logical. He said, like, you get the light into your body. And he was talking about, but no, they figured out how to get LED lights into lungs to kill viruses. Yeah. And specific thing to look is typing in Donald Trump, COVID compilation video gives me a bunch of death rate. Death rate is what's important. Death rate comp, compilation versus the media.

and see as the the media was the one that were dunking on him for saying then they were coming over this ridiculously high rate that turned out to not be accurate at all well i think you know you we have these those people but those people uh... the leftists or whatever you want to call them the defluent dibbles of the fucking world these guys are uh...

like we're talking about with climate change and everything else. They don't want to leave anything in there that could let the other side have anything. They assume that the average rank and file Joe public is dumb as hell. One of the things I'll always say about ancient apocalypse complain about, they'll be like, well, he goes on there and he talks shit about archaeologists and everybody's going to believe everything he says because it's so well made. It's like, man,

i think do that at all and and uh... in the first season you did talk a little shit about archaeologists but uh... the bottom to me what if i'm watching us anything i don't care what it is of the person says you know that mainstream scientists disagree with me here but here's what i have to say all my alarm bells go off and that tells me i cannot hang my hat on what this motherfucker saying i gotta go google it that's what Graham does over and over again mainstream archaeologist disagree with me so

For them to say, everybody in the country is just, everybody in the world just gonna believe this. It's not. So it's 3.4%. So this is it. So give me some volume here. And a lot of conversations with a lot of people that do this. I think the number is way under 1%. So the fact check, the World Health Organization says the coronavirus death rate is 3.4%. President Trump lies that the World Health Organization is wrong. The number is 3.4%. 3.4% is what it's being reported. My boy, Sanjay.

The death rate. The percentage is 3.4 percent. And no hunks from the president can change that. Trump lied about the most recent World Health Organization estimate that the global death rate of coronavirus is 3.4 percent. Jesus. The 3.4 percent death rate was wrong. And WHO data later updated it to a fraction of 1 percent. Let's go back into history.

Trump has a hunch that the death rate is lower than one percent. Way under one percent, way under one percent. Will someone put a mozzarella stick in his stupid hole? Some lied to viewers about the mortality rate. Way under one percent. False information. She's spreading disinformation. Misinformation and dangerous. Disinformation. If you're president of the United States, you have the world's greatest scientist at your disposal. Do you listen to that? Leading scientists, including Dr. Fauci, wrote in the New England Journal of Medicine that the death rate could be considerably less than one percent.

way under 1%. We've seen enough. These people are fucking puppets, man. They're puppets and they willfully, gleefully, repeat these narratives. And instead of saying, well, where did you get that information? Who are you talking to? Let's find out if that's correct. Why does the World Health Organization think it's 3.4%?

Is there any nefarious intent behind this whole idea of it killing everybody that's forcing some enormously profitable venture, like forcing everybody to take these fucking new vaccines that you guys developed? Right. Like, is that, could that be factored in? Maybe? Well, no, only you only hear that it's factored in once everybody's profited and got out, including Bill Gates. Yeah. Bill Gates, who's on television, telling everybody to get the vaccine, you won't get COVID, and then afterwards, that didn't work.

After he had unloaded all of his stock, he wasn't effective and it turns out COVID wasn't as bad as we thought it was. Well, you guys are really responsible for a bunch of people taking a medication that was unproven. You're responsible for all the side effects. You're responsible for all these and you're responsible for fear mongering, lying, closing down businesses, ruining economies, changing the political structure of the country.

They need to be held to account. I'm not going to forget this. And a lot of other people want people's lives were destroyed. And it is, I mean, there needs to be there needs to be a reckoning. Elon recently said that his still his pronouns are still prosecute Fauci. I love it. I love it. And he's a real real possibility of making an impact.

Yes, he does. I mean they listen to him. Yeah, when it comes to the when it comes to the the economic side of it I honestly think if out of everything if the what the job notwithstanding Just strictly from a top-down perspective those guys. I mean it's most immense transfer of wealth in modern history

Amazon Walmart eBay all these motherfuckers cleaned house and you know what shut down and spoke can we lost wide elephant this guy had started in the 40s after World War two he would buy surplus and put it in this store he had fishing wars for 30 cents fucking Transformers from the 80s who I was buying in 2000s on one eBay that all kinds of shit there and he went out of business because he had to close his doors all everything

Everything restaurants in California. You can't even go to fucking Walmart at two in the morning like we did like everything's closed now at a certain time compared to where it was. Everything's actually important because the coronavirus doesn't stay up. It's a stay up. And it doesn't exist when you walk to your table and sit down. All the homeless people need a place to hang out and so Walmart parking lot at two a.m. That's when they show up. I meant that actually the opposite. Coronavirus comes out at night.

but it doesn't even is like the whole thing was so dumb because then they allowed black lives matter protest like what about six foot distancing everybody's breathing is screaming and they're yelling down the street and you guys think that's not gonna spread it right and the brain dead stuff behind the symbol is my talk about this a long time ago my channel that

The person that thought of, oh, we're going to have this band play. Let's get the masks that have a big hole in it to show solidarity with their buddy audience. That's the fucking idiot. It's like everybody's just going to look at that and be like, how about people swimming? So we don't need to do that. Oh, my God. The swimming mask on.

It hurts me to see those clips. Now, COVID was one of the biggest IQ tests in modern times. Well, it was really a compliance test. That's what it was. It was a lot of compliance tests. And check to see how many cowards there are out there that even though they know something to be true are terrified of the blowback so they don't speak about it. And when you do speak about it, you do get attacked.

You know, I obviously experienced that, and I was fascinated by it. I mean, it was kind of horrifying to watch, but also fascinating. Like, oh, so this is real. Like, you guys are just completely all lock-in step and all full of shit. And you don't even care that I got better quick. Brought to you by Pfizer. Yeah. And you can watch how the world, you can see this from a world perspective, too. Different communities all around the world react differently. I remember...

Lots of people, oh, why can't we do like Korea and Japan? Almost everybody's wearing a mask over there, and they do all this reporting and all this stuff. It's like, yeah, you ever been there, man? You ever talked to any Koreans or Japanese people? Their fucking culture is lockstep compared to ours. There are very much, there's no counterculture in those communities. Counterculture people are on jail.

You have one community, so yeah, they're told to do this, they fucking do it. Well, obviously, we don't do that here. Our media is so compromised, so obviously compromised. And you know, Callie Means has a really good point about this. He was saying that the reason why they spend so much money advertising on cable news is not because it's effective. It's because once they do that, now cable news cannot criticize them.

It's so much smarter because it's like, listen, we're spending all this money just to make sure that you guys toe the line. That's what they're doing. So the news is not the news. It's only the news if an advertiser agrees that it's the news.

And that's not good. No, it's really bad for anybody left wing right wing. If you think that somehow or another money gives a fuck about your political persuasion, it's just it's so stupid that it got attached to a political ideology and from the most compliant of people. Those are the ones who are the most willing to go along with the narrative.

because the consequences on the left of coloring outside the lines, they attack you so hard. They crush you so hard, like this martyr-made situation or anything, anything where you're stepping outside the line to talk about it. Like what you experienced just discussing something that turns out to be absolutely correct. They fund a big hit piece about you, which essentially acts as an advertisement for you.

It just builds your channel. It's the Streisand effect. Then people go to your channel and go, this guy's great. This fucking shows awesome. This is interesting information and just undeniable facts, the undeniable facts. Like that no one can discuss. No one can debate in any way, shape, or form the actual size of these stones. Where they came from. This is not under debate. So just the undeniable stuff is unbelievably fascinating. And then when they go to your channel, they go, where's all the Nazi shit?

I'm just kind of a Nazi. I'm looking for some Nazi shit. I'm just getting facts. You know, we should go back to go back to Tepe, Ganang Paddang, and the Great Pyramid, because there's some more stuff involving archeology and lack of excavations that are actually pretty significant. So going back to go back to Tepe, one of the photos that Jamie that you showed earlier was before excavations began. And do you notice that there was no trees there? So one of the controversies.

is that there's some 800 trees that were planted on the site a full decade after excavations began. And the trees are buried or were planted on top of ancient ruins, which stand to not only destroy the ruins, but also highlights that they can't excavate what's underneath them when the trees are there. And so here's the before and after. So what's the conventional explanation for why they planted all these trees over a site that they know is filled with ruins underneath it?

this property, this was a property owned by farmers and the Turkish government wanted to purchase the land for them and the owners felt that they were being lowballed. So what they did was they planted all of trees on top of the site in order to increase the value of the land, which for me when I first heard this, I'm like, I don't understand this doesn't make sense to me. Gobekli Tepe is already priceless. It's the world's oldest and most mysterious ancient site on earth.

It's priceless. Now, to be fair, and Dan, you've harped on this and I really agree with you. It's government stuff. It's government stuff. If the feds are going to buy your land for a highway, they don't care what's underneath. They don't care what's an Indian burial ground or what. It's what's this land worth in this city. This kind of property. So they made it an orchard instead of a desert. Now, here's the thing, though, of all things they planted olive trees. And there's something that was enacted. It's called the olive law in Turkey in the 1930s, where it's illegal to cut down olive trees in Turkey.

So I'm like, well, that's interesting. And let me ask you this real quick. Imagine, now just imagine being the owner of that property. And you've got this, you found these ruins here. You've got all these people coming out there, paying you money to check shit out. You're selling all kinds of stuff. And now the government's going to take it from you. You've had it for 10 fucking years. Now the government's saying it's there. So you go out and you start planting trees.

So when you dig a hole to plant that tree, you find an artifact. Do you put that in the pile of artifacts to hand to Klaus Schmidt, or do you put that in the pile to sell to the antique collector that's not going to tell anybody? Obviously, you put in, he's pissed off. I, my opinion is that guy sold a ton of fucking artifacts while that was going down. That he just, why wouldn't you?

Now, are there artifacts connected to go back? Yeah, they're fine stuff. Like what kind of stuff? No pottery or anything, but they have found like one of the biggest things is a bunch of chunks of stone like a archaeologist, even they call a microchip, which would be like a tiny little piece you get from that's still technically an artifact.

So there's a lot of that kind of stuff. There are a lot of bones that have been charred and things like that. But there's nothing too terribly amazing. Well, nothing too crazy. But again, that's the kind of stuff that would possibly deal. I'm a lot this where my skepticism can get a little cynical. You know, I'm of the opinion if the anti-Kithra mechanism would have been identified as what it is when they pulled it out of the ocean, it would have never made it to a museum that there was somebody.

I was like telling Jim last night we were having dinner. If the reports of giant bones that you see in the 1930s from guys that were over in New Mexico and they're bringing them back to the Smithsonian, they just never made it there. If they really did find giant bones, which I'm skeptical of, but if they did, this is probably an advertisement to sell them while they're traveling these things across the country. You know, this happened to lose them along the way because this dude came over and bought them. This has been a problem since day one and especially when you think about those kind of like

one crazy old school Rockefeller type billionaires who really love to control information and everything. You know, if you have access to something that's just undeniably throws the whole timeline into a question or throws a narrative of human beings to a question. Now you got some power with that little artifact, don't you? So that's, yeah, you see, that's, that's, I'm, I'm of the opinion that that's been a problem. Like, I don't believe in the dendara light. I assume you know what the dendara light

Well it's when you glossed over the Antichycro, how do you say it? The Antikythera mechanism. Antikythera. That one is fast. It's crazy, isn't it? Because that is how old is it? It's like 2,000 years old, 3,000 years old. 2,000 years old. It's a hand carved brass machine that you use to, it tracks the cycles of the moon, the earth, and different planets in our solar system. It's brilliant. Yeah. And they didn't know what it was and they found it.

corroded up gears and then they start doing uh... some sort of uh... i mean i don't even know how they did it how they understand all the different pieces of it because it's all corroded together but they use some sort of scanning mechanism correct to and see if you can find what it actually looks like you can buy replicas of it nowadays they make a little boxes of that's what it looks like when they found it but now show what it looks like when they've done a scan of the stumble across something interesting to when the guy found it

Heap of dead naked people. Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!

How do you say it again? Antikythera. Antikythera between Crete and mainland Greece when the storms decided they'd die for sponges, a chance upon a shipwreck full of Greek treasures. The most significant wreck of the ancient world to have been found up to that point. The dead naked people were marble sculptures scattered on the seafloor along with many other artifacts soon after the discovery prompted the first major underwater archaeological dig in history. So, see if you can find what this mechanism looks like. What it actually looks like. There's a replica.

Yeah, so this is the replica of this thing, this incredible piece of engineering from 2000 years ago, where all these gears and all these planets and you could figure out where everything was, how?

How? How'd they do this? How'd they do this? And this is beyond what we ever thought was available back then. No, there is a YouTube channel that a guy goes through. I forget his name, but he does go through and he makes one of these with old school tools, but he's making each gear by hand. He's making the wire by hand. Oh, that guy's a dork. He's a dork. Yes. Bring him on the show. Greatest possible version of a dork. I mean, in a good way.

But it is fun to watch, but it's incredible. But at the end of the day, that's interesting to be able to recreate it, but the planning of the thing. That's really where the engineering mathematics. And then you have to take into consideration, what is this based on? What knowledge was available back then that we did not think was? So we're talking about 2,000 years ago. This is the time of Christ. We did not think that they had any kind of machines that were in any way similar to that thing.

What else don't we know? What else is lost? How much of that stuff is gone? If this is 2,000 years ago and it's that corroded, what is 10,000 years due to it? It'd be dust at the bottom. And the fact that they even found it at the bottom of the ocean is a miracle in itself. This is what's important to understand. And this is another lie that Flank Dibble told about the number of shipwrecks that have been fined. Not only that, but what would be left over after just a few thousand years? And that when they find these,

one thousand year old shipwrecks they don't find any wood anymore you just find the pottery so you just know where the shipwreck is because there's a bunch of gold on the ground and some pots but if you go back ten thousand years before that how much is the surface of the floor of the ocean shifted how much of that stuff has been covered up how much is it

10,000 years is so long. Now, what if it's 20,000? What if it's 30,000? Yeah. To say we don't know is the correct thing. That's the correct thing to do. And that's what nobody wants to do. There's a hypothesis. It's more of a, it's more of a, like a mental, I forget the name of what you call it, like a mind teaser, like a way to make your brain think. It's called the Salurian hypothesis. Salurians are a doctor who

monster that supposedly lived on Earth like millions of years before humans, wake up one day and they find all these monkeys running around, they decide they don't like us. But the hypothesis is, how would you determine if there was a species where an advanced civilization that lived on the Earth a million years ago, five million years ago? As soon as we have fossil fuels, as long as we had the first bit of oil had been created on the planet, you could have a civilization like ours. So what would you look for?

uh... the only conclusion is maybe nuclear stuff if they tested like maybe nuclear power plant we might still define some radioactive material but beyond that not a god damn thing after ten million years you can find a fucking bit of it that's what their conclusion is and and this is a scientific thing this is something that thought tool that's what it's called it's something that they use in scientific archaeology and history and stuff presumably

to look at that problem, but these guys like obviously didn't do that. Like I said, he thinks people are stupid. He said right here in sitting in this room that, oh well, you know, it doesn't matter how long something's under water. You might think that it matters how long something's under water, but it really does. It's like, are you fucking kidding me? Of course it does. Anybody knows that. Of course it does this in terms of whether or not you're going to find it, right? They haven't done like a comprehensive lidar scan of the bottom of the ocean floor. They just have not done that. That's not possible right now.

But if they did do it, who fucking knows what they'd find down there? Well, here's where things get nuts is that here we are talking about things as far as tens of thousands of years. So we do have a site that Graham Hancock highlighted in season one of ancient apocalypse called Genung Penang in Indonesia. And Jamie, I have a folder on this. So this pyramidal structure could potentially be 27,000 years old. It's hotly debated. But as Graham Hancock highlighted,

There is a subterranean tunnel in chamber, which may have those dates, and it's not being excavated. And a geologist, Danny Nana, I never pronounce it correctly, forgive me, Danny. But he is a geologist that analyzed the ground penetrating radar, and he said that there's strong likelihood that it's man-made. Now, the skeptics, the academics will say, well, it's probably just a lava tube, because the structure is volcanic in nature.

But something interesting has happened that back in 2014, the Indonesian government said that they were willing to allocate unlimited resources and funding to excavate the site. Something shifted a handful of years ago where they're not excavating it now. And as of today, there's no plan in place to find out what that subterranean chamber is. So if it was indeed man-made, we don't know. It could be natural. It could be man-made, but we're never going to know what it is until we go digging.