217. Lily Phillips & Bonnie Blue's NEW Challenge & Why the Troops WhatsApp Group is FINISHED...
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January 28, 2025
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In episode 217 of the Fellas Podcast, hosts Cal and Chip dive into various topics, including their recent travels, funny anecdotes, and the conclusion of the "Troops WhatsApp group". Along with insights about training for marathons, they also tackle the sensational case of the bizarre challenges on social media and the resulting ramifications.
Recent Travels and Personal Updates
Cal's Trip to Australia
- Cal shares his adventures in Australia, where he engaged in running clubs and vegan dining experiences.
- Faced with jetlag and challenges of maintaining a routine while traveling, he humorously reflects on his dietary struggles during his time there.
Chip's Canadian Road Trip
- Chip recounts his road trip through Canada where he had to adapt when plans went awry, resulting in an impromptu video shoot.
- He describes the difficulties of filming in wintry conditions, revealing the fun yet challenging nature of their outdoor content creation.
The End of the WhatsApp Group
- Cal and Chip discuss the decision to conclude their "Troops WhatsApp group", highlighting how group chats can change and evolve over time.
- They share their feelings regarding the gradual decay of conversations and the varying roles people play in group dynamics, including the influential 'firestarter' roles, and how they can impact engagement.
New Challenges on Social Media
The Madness of Current Trends
- The hosts delve into the social media challenges gaining traction, comparing it to a cultural phenomena.
- They reference one specific controversy involving Lily Phillips and Bonnie Blue, dissecting the implications and societal reactions to such sensationalized activities.
- Insightful commentary touches on behavioral psychology behind viral challenges and societal norms.
Marathon Training Discussions
Online Communities and Support
- Cal shares about his marathon training journey, drawing attention to the importance of community support in fitness.
- They provide a shout-out to the Runna app and the community they have built, emphasizing the benefits of peer support and motivation in achieving fitness goals.
Training Tips and Challenges
- Chip recounts the struggle of winter training versus the warmth and comfort of home, offering practical advice for listeners on maintaining fitness during colder months.
Conclusion
- The episode wraps up with the hosts reflecting on their challenges both in their fitness pursuits and personal life, inviting their community to engage and share their own experiences and tips.
Key Takeaways:
- Travel can shake up routines, but there's always a humorous anecdote to share.
- Social media challenges can have serious implications—it's not just entertainment.
- Community support is vital in personal fitness journeys—seek it out!
- Group dynamics evolve and it's important to recognize the roles individuals play.
This episode provides listeners with relatable stories, insightful commentary on current trends, and practical fitness advice, all delivered with the signature humor of the Fellas duo.
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He's out of search. Oh, I've got a bone to put with you, actually. Me! I'll save it for later in the show. Oh, wow. I'll tell you that and not pop in the box. Might as well just start off your... So you're back from Australia. Congratulations, bro. Thank you. Bro's got a little bit of a bronze tan. Thank you. You look nice. Let me just sum up your trip really quickly. Did a run club. Yeah, two. Begged it on Insta. Did another run club. Nice. Thanks, vegan spots. Done. It's a vegan spot. I was actually with bare vegans. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that must have been a tough trip.
I'd rather do a week with David Goggins than a fucking week of vegan food. Nah, he'd become. You think David Goggins is calm? So, like, waking up at 3am. Stay hard! But I am making... Well, he's absolutely ripping out your back door. Jetlag's difficult for Rodons. What are you talking about? I just get mad Rodons all through the night and wake up with them. Yeah, my hog goes different on a plane, especially also in like a really bad car.
A really bad car as in. Are we talking about a cheap car? We're just talking about a bad car. Just like a little rattly number. Yeah, my mum had an old Ranger Landro. You're telling me you used to have bonus in the back of your mom's lips? I'm sitting in the back. You know, one of them discoveries, the old ones. Oh, that's still, that's cool, though.
I love how you say that's a bad car. That's how I touch you. Yeah, oh my my my lambda So shit I kept getting bonus in the bag. Yes, I'd so it's only 200 square foot as I can't believe it your impression of me there is like when an American tries to English actually No one's shaking like a miracle
But to be to be fair boys, I was the only one holding it down here because you went away. You went to America. I mean, Canada. Oh, it's Canada, bro. Respect to Canada. Hell, yeah. So where did you actually talk to me about the trip that you went on? Canada. I've been wanting to road trip Canada for a minute. Yeah, Canada was cool. It's just I've gone from one cool country to another. It was very cool out there. It was going to like minus 10 some nights in certain places. And you've got a film in that. And it's like, oh, it's just tough to film when it's freezing, you know.
Yeah. You got to stay energetic and it's like, oh, mate, I actually just want to be at home in front of a radiator. You just got to lock in. So we did this video. Where'd you go? We kind of had to wing it. Last minute, essentially, we planned a different video. Plans got messed up. Didn't want to waste the money. I'd already spent a lot to get everyone out there. And I was like, right, what do I do? So we changed the plan last minute for the video. And we've done this kind of winter cabins, getaway camping kind of video. Five different spots, like a cabin, a year, real camping.
There was something, there was a couple of others in an RV park and we've just kind of gone and tested them all, me and Arthur. It should be fun, it's just me and Arthur just fucking bantering. Nice sort of short video of 30 minutes. You should have asked, I would have given you Luke Nichols' email address. Oh, outdoor boys. Yeah, I've realised. Is it me Alaska? He's Alaska, yeah, but you can go up to Alaska. Yeah, but I've realised that we can't do that.
Oh wait, there's minus 10 degrees. You realize there's a reason why when I was a boy told us he didn't want to take it out. When I went to Lapland, it was minus 25, right? And even that's that that was too much. That was physically being possible for us to make a video on that kind of weather, I think. Yeah, I don't even know if the camera kit will work in that. You probably need a special camera kit. Yeah, it was fucking pretty.
But yeah, filmed it. Also filmed a little second channel vlog of the whole thing with the new DJI camera. So you've been nice. It's a nice old trip. Yeah. And you went to a place called Vancouver Island. I wanted to go there for so long. And now you went there. Why did you want to go there for so long, bro? They got a crazy nice place out there that I wanted to see. Like a food spot or just a place with golf. No, there was no golf. It's just a firm on.
No, that's not on some nice drives. Yeah, but I didn't really see. I was driving at night both times, so I didn't really see much. Oh, OK. But driving that thing was tough. It was a 25 foot RV. Yeah, well, I would crash it. I would crash it. I would crash it into another car. And I had to take him out to drive a suit. And it was like, that's it. You're done.
Do you know what they're doing? At least the insurance was good. Yeah, the insurance was covered. We were insured and everything. But yeah, he crashed into a parked car and I've been texting the person like trying to sell it for them. But it only cost you what? Like a hundred quid because you had a hundred quid to fix the RV because it was what RV was only slightly damaged because it was massive. But it was going to cost 10,000 Canadian dollars to fix their car, which is 5,000 pounds.
And I was like, oh, shit, I hope I'm covered. And then the RV company was like, yeah, you got third party liability insurance. You're all good. We're going to pay for it. I was like, nice. Oh, were they nice about it? Or were they? They're like, lovely. But Canadians are the nicest people in the world. The guy was just sorting me out and nonstop. Like when I was booking the RV and I was getting there, I was like, oh, he's like, you can take personal duvets and packages like this, kitchen package, all that. I was like, yeah, I probably need to get that. It would be an extra few hundred dollars. He's like, I'm going to just shut that in for you, bro.
But I wonder if that's just their usual. It was just a nice guy. Yeah. All right. Oh, that's good. No, I heard good Canadians or something. Yeah, because online you can book that stuff, but he just choked it in. And I was like, good stuff, mate. Proper solid, proper sound. Yeah, well, good for you, Chip. I'm actually, I'm actually happy that you ended up getting a video. One day you'll be able to tell that story properly as to why the plan's got messed up. Yeah, the plan's got messed up. It's a story for a future time. It's a league. No, it's illegal. It's a legal issue. I could say that.
It makes us a quick one on your on your second channel. Are you doing it like a B star with the Osmo action five? Yes. Yes, I bought one of them. It's very good little you turn the sharpness down. Yeah, I turn it down good fix all the settings up It's a good little good little number that so every now and then when I go on a video I'll vlog the whole thing sick and then I'll use that and then the rest will be here's a good second channel videos. It's a good second channel video
getting in queue for one of the Bonnie Blue things. Oh, fucking out. It's actually not a bad idea. Yeah. I just didn't be in a while. Yeah. Well, yeah. And then it's, and then you like flip a coin as to whether you do it at the end. I'm not going to do it. Am I? Yeah, be good for the video. I thought Beebo was at one of them.
Bevo, have you seen the clip of Bevo and Luke Bennett? No watch the clip. Yes, not in the clip. It's in the picture. Oh, yeah. No, I haven't seen the clip either. Should we react to it now? No, no, I don't want to see it. No, I don't want to see it. No, I don't want to see it. No, I'm not interested in that. I'm not interested in that.
I mean, no, no, no, we could do it. No, let's do unload it. Let's do it. All right. We'll do it fine. Fine. By the way, you can get loaded 6.99. Go download it from the App Store to Google Play Store. You can go on the website. We do bonus episodes every two weeks and they are regarded as better than the main because we can go a little bit more crazy.
But yeah, like if you're itching to watch us react a little bit. We got some good videos coming up. I think we got fellas go fishing video. Did you watch Josh Peters documentary on the little film? So have you seen there just going like head-to-head like all out for this tale of the tape Taylor the tape now they're actually going head-to-head is to report like the most people I saw Lily Phillips said she
bang phase banks. Yeah, I wonder if phase bank knew about where he was in the line up. I think he said he was early doors. No, no, he's, you know, his reply was, you can't always be early boys. So unfortunately for him. Oh, I swear he did like a little clip saying he was like first to it.
I don't think so. Oh, maybe not. I don't think so. Listen, she's fallen me a couple months back, old LP. Oh, really? What? You didn't? You didn't fancy doing a little clap? No, I did. I did float the idea with past Disney, but she didn't seem to keen on that. She said we'll move on from that one. Yeah, but keep going forward in life. Pass me that vegans bag. Well,
Are you going to do that for a second channel video then? I'm not going to do that. That is a good video. That is a good video. That's what Josh Peter's art. That's a fucking AB can do it or something. Yeah, somebody's got to do it. It is funny that I would be funny. I'm telling you, we need a shoe counter. You see that guy? Because I know there's hella Jordan's that guy that gets hooked. He gets hooked when the fucking meet up. What by his mom? Yeah. So he's gone to the meeting G. Is that what we
and he's been hooked tonight. He plus five by his mom. No, I'm hooking, bro. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Cause he's not even got a line. Not even got in there. You might be right because he didn't, he didn't have his clothes on, did he? What injury on the water? I've seen something saying you needed to put his clothes back on. So it's mom caught him and he, it was like, yeah, it'll be two minutes. He's just putting his clothes. I reckon that's a clip farmer because first of all,
If you rock up as a mother, you rock up to a gaff like that.
I just don't think you're, they're like, oh, it's my son Billy in there. Oh, fucking hell, he's balls deep in someone. They call the police and shit. But how does a mom know that's going on? That's what I'm saying. Like, how does she know that? Exactly. And you would just wait, like, why is the mom rocking up to this gaff? Like, I think it's a bit of clip farming, personally. But who's wanting their name and face on that clip farm? Man, people do anything. You dash someone a grant. That's nothing to these up for how many views this thing's going to end up getting.
Oh, this cracks me up, man. All these people in the queue. I mean, honestly. It's just mental, bro. It's going on a long time to all this stuff. Yeah, because they're going back to bat.
fucking mental right anyway my question is my question I'm not we're not leaving the topic because I've got a question okay the thousand in a day what's next how do you top that I think LB says 1000 up above oh my god I don't think that's possible no no no no you're right that is a call me surely
I do think the anal is next though, isn't it? It's god, man, you're right, I remembered now, that is the next thing. Yeah, and then one of them's got a peg like a thousand blocks too.
fuck up imagine oh you're just not gonna get a Q for that though nah I hate that thank you my no that's terrible yeah no course but turning up for that lads yeah won't be there I'll be there at all oh no oh god no no I'm hanging one
Oh, for fucks sake! Do not send me the address! Fucks sake! Don't let- Don't let me sniff their poppers! Fuck off! What are you talking about, shit? What are you taking to? I'm on this spot!
You're so niche
He's the comments they're gonna say almost 40 by the way. Yeah, that's not Trump's a book. Yeah
That reminds me of everybody sending in their pictures on the Reddit as to where they were working. The Reddit's been great. Yeah, you guys went crazy and posted a bunch of, we asked you in the last one of the last. Let me finish my fucking sentence. People don't like it. I'm a little bit excited right now. You guys all sent in pictures of where you listen to the podcast.
This we've got to give like some some top three and definitely in the top three is this one It's listening while feeding the crocodiles at work much love to the pod from Oz this guy works with like Steve Irwin's fucking ghost check on this why it's not a Like just reverse Google search it right now. Here we go. Let it. Let it marinate you like a little boomy you prod. Yeah. Oh
Nah, that's how it's legit. Nah, it's legit. Yeah, it's legit. Yeah, it's legit. Yeah, it's legit. Yeah, play, man. That's what I make. Well done. Yeah, and so we had that one. There was another really cool one. This guy was like melting steel or something. This guy's working on top of a plane, which is quite sick. That's fucking sick. From Canada as well. Yeah.
Wow. Yeah, we've got a guy here that's listening to the pod whilst our boat is going through a ship and he's essentially on that what could be a cruise ship us. What looks to be the 2025 version of the Titanic. It looks like a five star restaurant and it's going through Drake's passage.
Yeah, that thing is so cooked. So, well, RIP to that viewer, because he's definitely not making out. There was another one of like a guy working like a steel factory or something. This one? Yeah, this is cool. This is cool. I like that song. Hell yeah to you, man. Hell yeah to you. Yeah, he said he was lighting up some, some aluminium or aluminum to all of our 8% of US viewers out there.
While plowing the guy was listening to the pod while plowing but he's talking about farms here. He wasn't in the queue. Do you reckon we've got a big farmer listenership? I reckon there's some farmers out there, some farmer prices. Very farmer friendly. What they're on in the tractor while you're laying some seeds. Yeah, that's fucking brilliant to be there.
Keep going, let's see what other ones we had in here. They had to get tended to the cross. I saw a female truck driver and I'll be tending to the cocks. What? The female truck driver? Well, first of all, if you look at that guy above, he looks like he's part of the Mexican hotel. Oh, was it a female truck driver? Because I called them, bro. He had like fake nails, bro. You don't know. Oh, well, let's find this one.
Female truck driver, that's a real breed. We even have architects. We've got people with IQ listening to us. That's crazy. No, the girl could be on the other side. Oh, I see what you mean, actually. Why would you have a passenger as a lorry driver? Surely? Yeah, no. Just on your ones. No, sometimes you just take them with. It's fucking sick, though. We asked them, like, what sort of lorry we were working with, but it was a bit of a basic one. So hopefully she removes out the rank.
A bit embarrassed in that. We're looking at a 20 footer, a chip was knocking around in one of those in Canada. Yeah, 25, actually, but let's not talk about the statistics. The statistics. But yeah, that was actually kind of cool. And if you guys want to go see what there's loads of other pictures on there, we haven't even shouted out the half of them. Someone replied slash fellas podcast on Reddit, get involved. It's good little community and we use it quite a lot. We always talk on the locked in as well, man. I'm a dealer.
fairs. Fair enough. Good for you, man. Fair enough. Maybe you can drop us off some fen- some fen. Yeah. I've seen the funniest bit, but it's so bad. I can't even show it. I might be able to show it loaded. Save it. Save it. We'll get there. It's bad, though. Well, while you were- wait, were you in Canada when the TikTok got banned? Yeah. But in Canada, obviously it was fine. I don't know. I don't know if anyone went on it.
All right, look at me. I'm not that don't use this up, but you know I'm a reels guy. Yeah, you are on the reels high patch. Yeah. Yeah, I loved it. It was just like a 90 plus six Donald Trump wheeled that shit back on. What a great little PR move that. That's why he signed an executive order to release a JFK files and then gave RFK the pen.
Is that actually true? Yeah, but nothing's going to come from that. It's where it happened like years ago from one of the Clintons or someone, and then they just fucking, nothing really happened. I could be wrong though.
Or is it one of those things where they release them, but most of it's redacted? Yeah, it's so simple. It's not obviously going to be what we want it to be. We're talking about the... It would be so bad if JFK assassination. Yeah, so it all came out and it's like, yeah, America played a massive part in it and the CIA killed him and they used to... They would just never do that. As like a dummy man.
That's never coming out. That's never going to happen. So like there's nothing to get inside of it. That's kind of annoying. Yeah. Yeah. Well, have you seen a clip? He's literally like he's handing over like the executive orders. He's had like 70 orders, something. I did one about drones as well. Yeah. There's one clip where he gets handed like another, another one is executive orders. And he goes, what is this? What's this for? And they're like, sir, this is you saying you wanted to leave the World Health Organization. He's like, oh, yeah.
And he just signs it away. It's something that they've been part of for like 70 odd years, 80 years, something like that. They were actually one of that founding people started. And everyone Twitter is like, please don't leave, please don't leave. And he's like, no, we give billions. And everyone else, what the fuck do they give? And he just starts kicking off. It's quite good actually. So yeah, there was loads of executive orders. Oh, oh, also only two genders now in the American government. I like this. But is he basically saying that like legally there's only two genders?
in when you're working for the American government. Has that gone through like fully? Yeah, he signed that. He also goes, yeah, we're just going to call it the Gulf of America now. Oh, yeah. That's a classic. That's insane. I love that. He's just said, fuck it. We're going to call it that. And then literally a day later, the Coast Guard was referring to it as the Gulf of America. So that's that locked in. So the Mexico are kind of like, what the fuck?
Hey, Cabron. Yeah, that's cold. So maybe you'll turn Canada into the 51st state. Yeah. Well, there was a thing saying that. I remember seeing you. Let me tell you, last time Trump was in office every single day, the news cycle was just the next mad shit that Trump has done.
I was saying this. It's going to be the same thing, bro. Americans literally like to treat politics like a reality show, don't they? Do you guys come and become similar now, though? Yeah, but Keir Starmer is a bit boring, though, isn't he? Um, like you don't worry. Oh, Keir Starmer, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. So fucking pleb. Respect your elders. We'll take Keir on the box. Why is he, sir? You're asking the wrong book. I play Xbox a lot.
Sprawl reels Yeah, and then oh my god the the vlog of the Paul brothers at the inaugurated is brilliant Awesome. I haven't watched the vlog but I've seen the clips of them with field on and then like he falling off a chair Oh, yeah, did you see that they actually ended up being some beef about that legit?
Because Theo Vaughn was convinced that Logan Paul or Jake Paul had like tampered with his chair, causing it to like collapse in the inauguration. And Theo Vaughn at the time, as true comedian does, that made it quite funny. He started calling it like Kamala's chair or something like that. And it was quite funny. But then later on Twitter, he sort of quote, we did. And it was like, oh, there's a time and a place. And they like took it too far kind of was the vibe. Yeah.
And Logan sort of replied with a video saying, I swear to you, I did not touch that chair. We all saw that the chair was a bit janky beforehand. And I don't know whether he said he had told him that or something. But anyways, they went back and forth a little bit about it and then ended up settling it because I think whether Theo or Logan called each other and they just said, like, they cleared the air. But it's kind of funny that all happened over a
a little steel chair. Yeah. I love Fioven, like, I still dream of him coming on this pod. You know what, I'm in other ways too. I hate it because people always ask me the question, like, oh, who's your dream guest? I genuinely get that question any time I do, like an interview or a podcast or anything like that. And I never know the answer, but I genuinely think Fioven has got to be in my top three. I think I think he'd make the best content with us because we could just go a bar for bar on bullshit.
Well, you have a bar of bullshit and I just stand there just enjoying it. You could get involved. Like we talk about wanking so much. You two sat in those two seats and having Bobby Lee and Andrew Santana with the bad friends guys. Yeah, we only need one comedian if we have two that will overpower us. We'll get cut. Yeah, but it's more of a conversational vibe though. No, I want to be talking about like proper cranking it like goon and the last goon.
Oh, by the way, I was told, I thought Goonning was having a wank. And then going on and stopping it. And then I was at dinner the other day with the boys. And they're telling me that Goonning is actually edging. No, it's the opposite of edging. Right. Wanking over and over and over and over. Sadly, our resident Gooner. Yeah. You think it's right? Our resident brain rot specialist. Who wants to hear about the slightly sad story from Twitter, then, about the actual last goon?
Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. We will talk about that. Let's just get the right between edging and gooning. Oh, boy. Finally, my time is slow. Edging is a slow tease. Edging is a slow tease when you're close to climax. Gooning is when you don't let it happen. Gooning implies hours of teasing. Yes, see? Oh, edging is just moments before climax. So a gooning session will evolve a lot of edging because you don't want to stop. Oh, see, it's not beating the meat.
This is what I'm saying. Go to Urban Dictionary. I feel like that's really the holy good. No, it's not. It says here. Gooning is when you don't edge. Gooning implies hours of teasing. To be fair, I'll back his judgment, because he's called horny edging. No, no, no, no, no. It's straight from the source to be fair. Can't be it. Get Urban Dictionary. Yeah, I think, Chip, you've been our brainer. Oh, because the whole internet would then be... Here we go. Zoom in. I'll read this out. Ready?
Gooning may be most simply defined as the state usually achieved after a prolonged edging session, when a man becomes completely hypnotized by the feeling radiating his peace. Since a gooning state could only be achieved after edging, the man's
peace will have become mightily aroused at this point and even caress the male genitalia are subject to will trigger potentillation. Sorry, I've absolutely butchered that. But yeah, anyways, you essentially go into a state of trance. So it's not just hammering away at your peace. Okay. So here, yeah, gooning is a form of masturbation involving edging for a long time. Yeah, but you never know. It's like they're saying it's before is not as far as edging.
OK, so you just never know. Yeah, you're just getting Brits uploads, essentially. OK, I can get behind that. Which was which was made because I thought, well, goon, and was what we all thought. Yeah, I think we got it wrong. But still, I guess we're not too far off anyway. Right. Oh, God. Anyway, the last goon.
Talk to me about the last event you guys had. So there's this bloke that pulls up to a fucking drive through with no pants on and the woman's recording and she he must have been there before because he's like preemptively recording like she knows he's coming. And she's like, you've been here before, sir. And he's like, yeah, and she's like, you need to leave. And he's like, and he's like, she's filming. He's panicked. He's panicked. And then he's like, oh, and he skirts off.
as a cheat to put the indicator on and then turn. Good man. Yeah. Good man following the rules of the road. And yeah, they're calling him the last goon because unfortunately after this he just goes to a car park. Two days later he goes to a car park. Okay. Two days later he goes to a car park and he shoots himself.
Yeah, because he's seen that the video was posted online. Yeah, and he's starting to do numbers. This is the bloke here. And I guess, so there's a couple of theories like people were saying he was already planning to do it and they just getting his like, fuck it. Let me get one last chance.
Yeah, I got a no. Like what was his game plan rocking up to the drive through with his piece out? Yeah, there seems to be a lot of like, it doesn't make sense. Like, has he seen too much porn and gone, oh, this can work? Anyways, the internet's just been kind of wild. 2025 has been a crazy start. I just feel like, oh, man. Also, RIP though, that's obviously he died. RIP to my group chat. Well, I had a meltdown yesterday. Oh, and our group chat.
I'm supposed to like two things back to back and just got crazy in. Oh, that's the worst, bro. No, yeah. And I was like, but this group chat has been dying a slow day. Yeah. It's FPL that's done it though, because the weekends are for the group chat and FPL is an album on the weekend group chat. Yeah, it has. It's where people, it's all football related, but this group chat where we usually put stuff in and I was like, I'm not getting like, we're middle of the day. We're all unemployed. Like we should be, we should be busy in this group chat.
You are not nine to five us. We're unemployed, straight up. Look, this is what we do. People were too busy gooning, potentially. Let's talk about that, though, because I feel like every friendship group goes through that stage where the group chat dies. It's really quite sad. I was just dead right now, and I don't have another one, so I'm just like, your group chat list. I'm just, yeah. Yeah, but you're part of the problem, though. Yeah, because I was stopping talking. You were, you never spoke in that. I did speak in that. Well, I just slipped off a bit, but I did.
Yeah, your performances lately are definitely beating. Yeah, but I think just because everyone else is not replied, I'm like, I'm probably not going to. There's no point talking there. There's nothing going on. Like there's key people in friendship groups. Yeah. Okay. And they're the people that are, are the, are the, are the starters. They ignite the friendship group. They're chucking in the content for people to give their opinions on. Yeah. And there's three of those people that I know myself. Yeah. Bazinga.
and Randolph. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The three fire starters. Yeah. So you see when a fire starter is coming in, usually, Bess or Randolph.
jump in there and always keeping the thing moving. And then you'd have a part-time light chip when he finds a moment in his very busy day to jump on and give us a bit of feedback. But now, both of those two boys have been very busy recently and I'm still unemployed. So I'm chucking it in there. I had nothing. And then will I need, so I then put in my third message and I said, fuck this chat, fuck all of you. I crashed out.
And then we've all grouped- Will I need to say what am I supposed to reply to that? And it set me off. No, you know what? I got personal and I got aggressive. I've really feel for you because I've been there. Yeah, I've been there. Are you a fire starter? Yeah, the problem I've had the exact same issue. I feel like when I
I don't know what the transitional period was, but I started putting less fire starting material into our group chat. And therefore, we go days sometimes without a message. See, that's insane to me. That's insane. I hate to see the group chat go one day without any content. Yeah. Like I put a really good meme in there this morning. Jarvis, jerk it a little. I didn't really get much response.
No, I know, but do you want to know why? It's because, yeah. It's because of the vibe shift, isn't it? You need to call the truce, you boys. The truce needs to be. I will always respond to your message. And then, therefore, the chat will never die. I'm going to try and get a hell of active in there. Even if you two just make that truce between each other. No, but that's probably chips too unreliable. Yeah. He's not a WhatsApp guy in the first place. He's too busy on reels. No, I'm not on my phone now. Are you going to have that, though?
Well, him say you're unreliable. That's true. And I don't want to be like, oh, fuck it. Let me now use that to now spend more time on my phone. But at the same time, I do want to be chipping in with little info like, yo.
Just fucking nutted. I need to be saying stuff like that. Just keep you guys in the loop. Yeah. Oh, like, just run up the stairs. Trying to help the stairs. Go on. Yeah, I need to keep you in the loop with what's going on in my life. Well, there's all I think every group chat has different roles. You got the fire starters, the content providers. Mm hmm.
You then have the nibblers. They're integral. You know for a fact, they're easy bait. And you can draw them out from the darkness from the shadows, and they start nibbling. And you just bought yourself an hour-long conversation. And sometimes that nibble is the fire starter. They are the fire starters as well.
The nibblers. A valuable role. Yeah, like Randolph is the nibbler fire star dream duo right there. Shame his office got robbed. I feel like that would have put. Well, no, but that was great content. Well, yeah, sure. But then if he's not replying to it, it's not content. Oh, no, he was replying. He was nibbling. It was good content, especially when I was sending e-bay links like this one of yours, mate. That is good.
That was fucking see you off. Oh, man. Yeah, his head was hot. I turned his broken window into a sticker where the other rubber broke through. Anytime he winds me up, I chuck the window in there. Stickers is the best thing about what's up, man. So good. It's very good. Mind it, very good. What are the roles? You do genuinely have the people that, like, for example, Chris MD in our group chat.
is almost an unexistent. He will rock up once a week for five minutes. He's also a very formal man. He's a formal man. He'll rock up, drop five minutes of chat and then leave and see people like that. They're the ungrateful ones. They don't realize what they've got and that's a good group of lives.
Yeah, and that's what I'm saying. Some people need to experience that, I think. Someone like Christian D, though. He's got another group chat. That's fine. I've got another group chat. I don't know. But I want this group chat to bang. Yeah. I need to do more. You know, I don't like about this group chat. It's named after an area.
That's good, though. It's a new name. It feels wrong. No, it's good. It doesn't have any character to it. It's like, oh, you've just... It's got history. No, it's got crazy history, bro. Crazy history. It's probably another role to you, lot. Yeah. What else have you got to do? The lurkers, okay? Now, the lurkers are people that never respond to a message. They'll read everything, but they'll be at every function, every meetup that comes from the group chat. They're there. They never bail, but they just don't... It's probably me right now.
No, because you don't rock up to the functions like that. Yeah, that's true, actually. You don't even come to none of the sports. We had a few lads. Our uni ones a bit of an interesting one. We've got about 20 blokes left in it now. Yeah. And the guy who's the admin, he has a rule where if you haven't spoken in like three months, you get booted. Oh, absolutely. Three months. I think it's a fair amount. How many people you got in this thing? There was about 30 at one point. It was our football like uni team. All right. OK, we're rocking like eight strong.
And now it's got down to about 18 to 20, I'd say. But yeah, a couple of the lads never said a word in the group chat, but they would be at everything. So the admin had a bit of a dilemma on his hands. He was like, what do I do here? Because they're a vital member of the group, but they don't provide anything. And you can't really have that in a group
Now, you know, when you're rocking up at school and you hit a group project, you do none of the work, and then at the end, you get like a B or an A, and you're like, yeah, class. I'm brilliant. That looks great for me. It's like, yeah, but you've put none of the work in here. Like, we've cultivated a real strong friendship here, and you've not contributed to that one, but you just reap the rewards, you fucking scumbag. Yeah. You know what I'm trying to say? What'd you say? Yeah.
Anyways, yeah, that was my little rant about the water. I'm sure there's other people out there. That's fine. That's that's good. So this is my final warning to the group chat. This is a public call out to the group chat. Well, look, I put some in there. Let's have a good conversation in there today about something. Let's get those. Let's get something. Yeah, I mean, you can try, bro. You can.
Oh yeah, by the way, it's Friday. Just want to say happy Friday to everyone. I hope everyone listening. You won't be listening to this on a Friday, but I hope you're upcoming Friday. It's fantastic. And I hope that your Tuesday. It's Friday. And if you are a bloated member, then a special thank you to you. You'll be listening on Monday. Monday has been improved.
I've always said Mondays, my favorite day of the week. Yeah. Because it reminds me that I can get after it. I need to get after it. Best day of the week by a mile, brother. How are you getting after it? How's your training going? Oh, marathon training. Did you do it when you were in Canada? Well, yeah. In fact, I did four runs in Canada in seven days. Make consider your road trip. Minus five every day, six a.m. I'm waking up.
Wow. So obviously with the marathon my training plan is the same thing that you were doing or you did for your last marathon is I jumped on runner. So I've got myself like a little mate. It's so premium. Very good. I've got myself a custom 16 week plan for the marathon. So I mean, I'm on week three right now. I haven't missed a run yet. You got to tell people about our community.
Yes, we got a community on there, of course. You want to know what was sick about the community and I actually got to give them credit because I had my community on there when I was doing the New York Marathon and everybody in there was just giving me tips and not only that, but people were posting questions in there that they wanted answers to and so it ended up being this really sick place.
where people were just getting low to help about running some people were only running like 10 k's other people doing half full marathons, and it was a question sometimes about shoes i'm not gonna lie i put so many questions in there about mine and the community just came together to essentially help me. Yeah i like that a lot i mean we've got ours on that yes called the jog fathers.
A round of applause for me for coming up with us. It's a good name to be fair. Thank you. Was it chat GPT? It was chat GPT. It was me, bro. It was me. Jump on there. Join our community. Because like Carl said, we can all chat in there. I need to get myself a little profile picture. I'm not quite on that level yet.
Yeah. And look, if you don't want to join our community, which would be the most bizarre thing of all time, there are a load of other ones. Usually, if there's an event going on, you can join the community for that particular event, which I thought was really cool. Again, I joined the New York Marathon community. You can join the London one. Well, that's good. I haven't done that yet. So I'm going to do that right now.
And it's actually really motivating because those times where you just don't want to go out on a run and you look at the community and see everyone else has gone and done their run. You just think, yeah, I got a lock. I got to get after it. Yeah. And one thing that they've actually brought in and this wasn't available when I was doing my marathon. So now that you've got your training, this is sick. It is the runner AI and pace adaptability. And before
for that long name scares you off. All it does is it takes the pace that you've run your previous runs at. And let's say you had like a really slow or maybe even a really fast run and you ran a little too quick, it'll change the pace for your next few runs to make sure that you're not overloading. And it really takes everything to account. So it's becoming super, super personalized for you. And honestly, the more personalized it is, obviously the better it's going to perform for you. And I wish I had this one. I was doing mine, but it's here now. So happy days.
Another thing that I kind of just fumbled was I didn't do enough strength and mobility training in the lead up. And ever since then, all I hear people talking about, I know Pradi's doing it loads now too, is he is actually banging loads of strength training. So they have built that into the app now so you can include that and that'll help develop your plan as well.
Chip, I know there's one thing that you're not looking forward to and I never look forward to. It's the last long run. It's around three weeks out from the main event. About 32 cars, something. Mate, it's intense, but the good news is once that's done, you start your D load and you can chill out.
I'm not gonna lie, the couple weeks beforehand are bliss because that long run is an absolute- It looks nicely set up. I've been through the schedule on the app of what I've got. You're happy with it. It looks pretty good. And of course, guys, we want you to join the community. So make sure you download runner, use the code fellas. Not only is that gonna give you two weeks free, which is, well, why wouldn't you? But more importantly, it'll just automatically add you in to the jog fathers, which is our runner community. And we want you guys getting active in there. So make sure you download it, use the code fellas.
and just thank us later. If you already have the app and you're already a member, then make sure you join the Jogfathers community. You can get all the info you need for that in the description. But kill for it to pull my stripper prod. Yeah, that's what I'm doing now, mate. Like, yeah, I was just locked in. Like, we were getting up at 6am every morning because, like, when you go that way, your sleeping pattern gets fixed in a good way. Like, right now, I'm getting up late, because we've come back.
forward in time. Anyway, so yeah, Prox is going to pull it up now. Did four runs out there? You know what I like? It's a beautiful picture. Yeah, we lost. Yeah, big fan of somebody who trucks a picture. It's dedication. I never do it. Thank you, man. Thank you. It's a special run. I'll do it. No, I just want the people to know. So there's a, there's a little pic of me. That was just a little easy run. I did. I'm following my plan here. So you're going out for one tonight?
No, I'm not. I'm actually, I was meant to go yesterday and I was meant to go today and I won't be able to because I've got exertion headaches if I think and I can't even go up the stairs right now without getting quite bad migraine and I know most people are saying you need to rest a little bit. Yeah. So if I just go out again, I'm resetting it. Yeah. And then I'll, so I'm thinking if I rest from my last run, which was like Wednesday or Tuesday to my long run on Sunday, I might be okay.
Yeah, but then you're gonna go straight into a big long run. I'm really stressed. Well, you could just see it as a slight taper. I did a 9K on Monday, 11K on Sunday, should be okay. Right, okay. But I'm just a little bit worried because I wanted to stick to my plan completely and do near and off all my runs, do as many miles as I can, so I'm ready for a marathon. And now I'm slightly starting to worry that
Someone could go wrong here and I'm not going to get to train. You've got a lot of time, man. You've honestly got a lot of time. Yeah, but this could, this could really set me back a long time. No, it was. When I had it a few years ago, I had to stop going gym for a long time. Oh, wait. Sorry. You mean, sorry, my bad. I thought you meant you miss in certain runs. It's not possible to run with this.
Is there any supplements that have helped? So I'm going to the doctors on Monday and we'll see what's happening. It's not a dehydration thing because I've been drinking like two electrolytes a day, lots of water. I did that to try and be like, right, let me make sure I am hydrated. It's still happening. So I'm going to the doctors Monday. Maybe they'll prescribe me with some kind of medicine pills or something that might alleviate the pain and I can carry on training, but I don't want that anyway. I need this to be gone permanently.
But you do you want to know? Is when you go from zero to a hundred though? Yeah, I mean it could be that but I haven't really gone from zero. I mean I was still running. Yeah, I've been staying fit. I've been going Jim I've not this hasn't come out of nowhere, but I have obviously increased the mileage I don't know if anybody's listening and hasn't any advice could leave it on the reddit on the loaded comments or something that'd be very helpful Question where are these headaches right here and behind I have to close my I did one of these runs. I did the other day. I did it with one eye open
One night I was hurting so much and the temple was hurting. I was like fucking I need to close my eye because it's too bright fucking Oh, you're always get them sometimes here, but it's not exertion. It's because I don't stretch my lats
Well, I think it also could be a neck issue. So I'm busy all tonight, see what they say. I was going to say, go get a Masagi. Yeah. Well, look at this point, because I was going to start my like plyometrics stuff with a with a PT, start training my legs for the marathon. But now I can't because if I rock up and I'm like, sorry, mate, I can't do it. I got it. He's going to think I'm a fucking weirdo. Yeah, I hope you start. Yeah, exactly. So I had to delay that as well. But hopefully it's all good and everything because I'm really enjoying it right now. And I was on my grind.
Ready to cut. Sounds like you're in May. If you're getting up early, there was the minus five. You're loving it. You're loving it. We call that being bagged up. It was fucking quality, really. I'm enjoying it. Did you want to get our boy for a little something? You want to pick the bone?
Oh yeah, go on. So obviously this week I listened to the pod as someone that had not, you know, I didn't plan that pod. I wasn't involved in anything. Yeah. And Chip. Big up Stanley did a great job. Yeah, he Stanley for holding four. It was a really great listen. And you've really like, you're out of touch. You're so out of touch. What have I done this out of touch? You were talking about gym memberships and you were saying, yeah, I paid 300 quid a month. But to be fair in London, you're paying at least 200 quid.
I know you don't I know you're not but I was talking about mainly where I live. It's like 30 quid a month Yeah, but yeah, okay first I'm talking about my from my perspective I used to go to pure gym and I can't go to pure gym because a lot of people want to take pictures because it's a You know I sound like an absolute famous. I enjoyed it. No, it's just a story. It's just a younger crowd, isn't it? Yeah, I mean
I just had to call out man. Thank you for calling out because I didn't have the confidence at the time to say anything. And now I feel, now I feel heard. Why did it upset you? It upset me because it was like, it's just relative. We're a working man's bod. We are. And listen, I think your gym's class, which is why I started at pure gym. That's a lie.
No, it's good. That's a lie. I remember, I remember we used to walk past Pure Gym and used to fake spit on the door because you started chanting third space, third space every time we walked past. No, Pure Gym is a good gym. You used to point and laugh at the people working out in there. Good gym. I like it. I used to go there quite a lot. There's one near me and you could go in it's 24 hours. Okay, they don't need a sales pitch, right? Fucking hell. We get it. You know, you know what a Pure Gym is. I do want to make an apology though. For what?
Just when I was listening to it, it made me realise how fucking irritating it is when someone's getting something so horrifically wrong. And I was thinking of all the moments where I've said something that is just so, so wrong with zero research. And I was getting so irate. I had Stanley here, look at the end of David Dobrik's vlog, thinking that Iliar, men, I love you a lot.
I was just screaming on the plane at my phone. I was like, you, you boys were convinced as well. No, no, no, no. I was the one that said that. Everyone listening. And I've said some daft shit on this podcast. I'll probably go by apologize because things need more thought. Yeah, that's fair.
There's only one problem with what's probably saying is because if we have to be right a hundred percent of the time, we might as well not turn up, bro. We're always wrong. Two fucking idiots, three, sat here, waffling shit.
What do you expect? Right, well, speaking of waffling shit, obviously this week. Also, my gym isn't even free. Oh, he's so rattled. He's so rattled. Oh, my God. My gym is not free. He's 320 or something. No, it's 240. It's not even that bad, mate.
Yeah, but you have the laundry option where they do your laundry for the extra six to put a month. No, let's talk about that, by the way. That's insane. Only an extra 100 pound. We're only an extra 100. Can you just say what they do? You finish your session. You finish your session. I don't have this, but you can put your clothes into a locker or something or in a bin and attach it with a piece of paper or some shit and they take it, wash it for you and put it in your locker for the next day. You get your bag with locker. That is well.
I'll be honest with you. I had that at third space. Yeah, you did have that. I did have that. You actually did have that. Yeah. I used to rock up. Hey, who's that? I touched now. That's not being out of touch. That's being wealthy. There's a difference. It was more the lack of awareness of how cheap some gym members should know. But I didn't know. Bro, you're so right over that. I went to third. I went to third. After I went to kill gym and virgin.
But I do back here on the Vivo barefoots, by the way. Do you actually? Yeah. Because I've been looking and getting a pair for the gym. Oh, no, no, no. Don't fucking ruin it now. Like, I'm getting them and that's that. You are going to- No, you're going to jump on it and try and make it some Mr. Brov Fashion Wave.
Let me enjoy my barefoot for the for the health reason who likes the barefoots
Yeah, exactly. I'm fixing my posterior chain or whatever the fuck it is. Can I educate you on a little dime? Because it's my turn to do educate. I've not even got, I'm sucking that off. Carry on. No, people really enjoyed the Stanford prison thing that I did. That was very interesting, I have to say. Thank you. I knew a good job. I didn't know about the experiment, but I didn't know the details.
Oh, well, I hope you guys enjoyed it. It was quite interesting thing to talk about. Well, today I have got an interest one. Obviously, I've got my notes up so that we can actually make sure that they are 100% correct. And this is all about one of the FBI's most genius plays of all time. The goat FBI player, some refer it to.
Now, I got a lot of this info from a great YouTube channel called Fern. Anyone seen that Fern YouTube channel? Really good, highly recommend it. And they did a video on it, so a lot of the info from there. And I read through the comments, and it all seems legit. So, let's start this off with what this is all about. And essentially, it all starts with how criminals
work and how they communicate. Now, they don't all just particularly organize crime, this is. And in particular, we're talking like drugs, gangs, things like that. And we're talking about mainly the high level stuff here, not just your local hood rat.
They all use special phones. I didn't actually know this. I just thought that you just use phones and they whack like a burner sim card in there and don't get me wrong. Like I said, probably some low level stuff do, but there are some high level phones that they use and they look very similar to like your iPhone, your Google pixels, things like that.
But what they do is they obviously disabled the camera and they disabled the GPS. And on those phones, they run a completely different operating system. So it just looks visually to anyone else. You've got a regular phone and on there. And there were two or so I believe there were three main ones on there, but the two main ones for the sake of this story was one called Phantom Secure.
and encroach at. Now, these are obviously highly encrypted services, and it was a real problem for the government, in particular, for this story, the FBI, because they were just managing to talk all the time encrypted. Wait, who's using these again? Sorry? The criminals. The criminals using this. Am I a bad point? No, we're talking high-level people, but don't get me wrong, at the same time, I can see why maybe high-level government officials, particularly if they're traveling to other countries. Can we get an example of a high-level criminal using this?
Yeah, like a top-end drug dealer. Okay, cool. Cartel leader. Cartel guy. And this is within these communities they know about this operating system. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you know, if they wanted to give them the details on where the next drop is or things like that. Some of you see in a movie, really. Yeah, exactly. Okay. And one of the really good features about this is the moment that any of those phones would get seized, they can be remotely wiped.
completely white and the police were just having so much problems with this you know they were essentially breaking these phones and then obviously none of the content from it can be used in court so on so on.
And so they started having really big crackdowns on these encryption companies. So you're a phantom secure and Enchron, Enchron, let me get the name of that, right? Enchrochat, sorry. And Enchrochat, and there was a third one. So they started getting rid of them and it left a massive gap in the market. They managed to get rid of both of those ones. And a fella named AFGU,
right interesting name for the name after he was a bit of a dodgy businessman he had linked up with another gangster who went by the name the nickname was the Facebook gangster due to a bunch of his like essentially Facebook scams and crimes that he previously committed
And he had noticed a gap in the market since all of these encryption services had gone down. So he decided he was going to create his own one. And this one was really sort of like the most powerful arguably like the best one. And it was called a nom. So not a non with an M at the end for Michael. A nom.
And if you were to open it, open the phone, it would look kind of normal. So unlike the other ones where it was a different operating system, this would look like a normal one. But in particular, there were three main apps on it. And what you would do is you'd go into the calculator app and then you would type in your real pin. And then it would open up into the operating system. OK. So again, it was just like another layer of security that was being used.
Now, in a weird turn of events, and nobody is actually sure why, but AFGU, the sort of brainchild behind this, a norm software for phones, decides to go to the FBI because, and he goes to them and says, I can build you a back door into this.
Wow. Right. And in this, in the video, nobody really understands what his personal motivation for this was. I don't know whether he maybe potentially built it, realized what it could scale into. And then he would be responsible for a lot of crime and maybe doesn't, didn't necessarily want that. So he just did. So he was just, he maybe got a bit spooked and just said, my only way out from this now is to go to FBI and be willing to cooperate.
Exactly. If I got that first, it's probably going to be good for me. Exactly. So they rock up to the FBI. And they obviously were like, yeah, like, we want it. We want this. We managed to get rid of the other ones. We don't know what the criminals are going to be using now. Is he then turning himself in as a result? No, because he's not necessarily a driver. He's just built this. OK. It's perfectly like, well, it is legal. Ultimately, it's just an encrypted
Messaging service. Yeah, I made a nom that this guy made a nom. Yeah, okay There's one issue though, and it kind of made me laugh when they said this but it's illegal for the FBI to spy on what people are communicating and looking through so this back door would have been an illegal back door and
It's kind of ironic because of the whole NSA stuff. And I was kind of like, when I first heard that, I was like, that's not stopped them before from doing this type of thing. But maybe it was just too obvious, too much at large scale. And it's the FBI as well. So anyways, they obviously said like, yeah, we would love to be able to do this, but we can't do this in the US. So.
they took their and on phones all the way over to Australia. Now, for whatever reason, the Australians were like, yeah, fuck it, we'll do this. Yeah, that will do this. And the FBI will still have the backdoor to these Australian criminals. And they start handing out phones and one of the only way that these things, because they can't really go out and advertise.
Like, oh, everybody use an arm, use an arm. Like, they don't want it to be like that because they're special phones. They cost like, you know, over like $2,000. They say to have one of these phones, like, they're not just a bit cheap, but I can't. Am I going to get stung if I Google one of these? No, I think you'd be. But I was actually gone on a incognito. Yeah. Yeah, that'll do it. That helps. Yeah. Yeah, that Indiegogo. Yeah. You're not going to want to buy one of these anyways. And you'll know why in a minute, but
They pass it around, and next thing you know, all the gangsters in Australia, all the drug dealers and everything, this has gone round like wildfire. There is an issue though. The USA isn't allowed to store Australian citizens' messages in their servers, so they needed a middleman, and that middleman they ended up finding was Lithuania.
So they are stored, all these are non-servers in Lithuania. So that way they could access the messages. They're technically looking into Lithuania, Australia, and all the messages get delivered to the servers in Lithuania. Super interesting. But again, just another way that they can get around all these loopholes. Yeah, start spreading out. And lo and behold, all these criminals start getting
not caught because they can't really do anything about it, right? But one example, and this is a really interesting one, is it started with the US and it spread so they know that this tactic works. They then in Sweden, there was a gangster who goes by the nickname Microsoft, that was kind of weird. He was using EncroChat, obviously that doesn't work, and he jumps on the Anomhype as well, goes away, buys a bunch of these phones, comes back, starts distributing it to his whole team.
And police ended up receiving a message or intercepting a message that he had put out a hit on a cafe owner who owed him about 800 grand. And so what the police do, why they couldn't go there and like arrest him because these are all phones that, you know, the moment that they spoiled that they know it, the whole gig zone stops, yeah, everyone stops using it. So they're not worth it. So instead they sort of anonymously tip off the cafe owner
And he evades the hit and he gets away with it. So that was like the first time. And I believe they do similar things like that. And they low key bust a few people, but it never comes out. How are they evading a hit? Like how are the cafe? How's the cafe? I'm doing it. I guess. I don't know. They don't go into too much detail on how he evades it. But he's just getting a tip off like don't. I think the plan was to shoot him on his doorstep at the cafe.
It was something like that. And you just like, I guess the anonymous tip would have been like, don't fucking rock up to your cafe for the little while. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. It doesn't die anyways. And again, there's all these things, all these phones had started spreading across Sweden and they're busting some people, but they're just not allowed to use any of these messages or anything in court goes on. And obviously this has become like hyper successful.
really successful for these police forces better than they could ever could have imagined really. Now fortunately there's a court order for the servers can no longer be held in Lithuania and I'm not too sure why in the video they don't really talk too much about why
the time is up, but I think they got permission to do this for four years, and this four years was running at a time. So the police force were like, look, we're either going to, we're about to lose this setup that we have here, or we just say, fuck it.
And they go on a crazy raid. They raid everybody, all these police forces. It became like a massive news thing. There's all these pictures of people stood in front of like press backdrops saying like we've we've we've arrested over like hundreds of people from all these different countries. And it was one of the biggest police raids. And it was actually classified as the biggest thing in history.
Oh, wow. Because of just the sheer amount of phones that were out there. And so they just went balls deep. Now, that's great and all. But all these people went to court and Germany were the first country to say that none of those chats are admissible in court because of the way they obtained the info, which is a legal spying on. It is like that.
So they did all these police who are in Germany. And then I believe a number of other countries followed suit. And it was kind of the reason why the USA were never able to do it in their own country. But they kept doing it in all these other countries. And they did that entire staying. They rated them loads of everybody, not everybody. I'm sure a bunch of them did go to jail. But so many of them just walked free because of the thing that they just couldn't use any of the
couldn't use any of the messages in it. And so then there was a massive inquiry was like, was this like the greatest thing of all time? Or was it the biggest waste? Sounds like of all time. And it was just like this massive thing, which is super interesting how they all did it. And it does make you think you see when you're like, I don't know if anybody goes on like the dark web or whatever, like nowadays.
Just know that there is probably some government agency watching you. I think this was a waste because if a lot of them did get away, but they did save a lot of lives.
Yeah, because they could, without baiting it out, they could save people from a few hits and stuff. Hits. They also managed to like, you know, bust people when it came to like drugs. I might be being dim here, cow, but when you say they saved their life, how are they telling the person who is trying to be hit, let's say, anonymously tipping them off. They might get a letter through something. Maybe they get a text on their phone from a random number.
Right. Shit like that, I would imagine. Okay. Sometimes people wouldn't listen to that. Oh, yeah, no, sure. And yeah, they've died. But those people that are in that situation would know it's probably real. Yeah. If you are someone 800 grand and then it's a gangster, you get a text saying, don't be here. You're probably going to be like, okay, that's, yeah, probably. Yeah. So the FBI, yeah, had built this back door into all of this stuff. And then, yeah, I found it interesting that Australia were kind of just like, yeah, fuck it, like do it around here. Yeah.
They're pretty hot. Well, that's quite, that's quite mental. I actually, I don't understand how I've not heard of that before. Sounds like a big thing. Have you ever listened to the dark net diaries, you guys? No. The podcast, it's really good. And I just looked up because they had an episode on this, but they've got some really interesting stories like that. Definitely worth listening to.
Yeah, I find things like that just the most interesting thing. And then it's a classic case of like, you know, all these drug dealers and, you know, criminals and stuff like you have the evidence there that these are their messages and they did it. But just because the information was obtained illegally, they just couldn't use it because then if you say yes to that, then you're opening up like a massive can of worms.
Damn. So anyways, that was the Anom FBI. I think they called it like Project Trojan or something like that. Or the Trojan Project, sorry. So when someone accesses the dark web, are people still using that a lot? I don't know. I feel like the dark web, like- It's like you threw tall browser and stuff.
Is that still a thing? It's like, yeah, tall brows. It feels all school, though. I think I've not got it. I've used it before, but I don't really know if people are still using it. You can buy hits and all sorts of things. I think you're the guy that got a pardon for St. Ross Ulbrich.
Yeah, the Silk Road before. No, I have it reviewed. Yeah. No, I think I had a friend that used to buy stuff on there, like back in the day. What is Silk Road? And it was just a marketplace where you buy stuff. It was encrypted. You could use Bitcoin. I don't think it was invented for that, but it became for that. On the dark web.
You could buy guns, drugs, there was rumors. Murder for hire. There was rumors. You could do that. I don't know how true that was, but obviously the guy that made it, I think he was a college student in America, got busted for it and said to like two life sentences, like eight years, whatever. Trump just jumped in and parted them the other day. Because he got ways. His life sentence was ridiculous, really, because
Even though it yet became a marketplace for all of that bad stuff, there are like massive like top end criminals not getting anything close to that. And he's actually not done anything himself. At least I don't think he's made the marketplace. Yes. But it wasn't like his dream to make a place where people could buy and sell drugs and guns. I don't think that was the.
I really need to read more and say, but on my first glance, that was the reason why it's going on. There's an interesting thing because the moment, you know, the day after he got released, a wallet that hadn't been active, sorry, a crypto wallet that hadn't been active for 13 years moved something like 140 billion, or 140 million of crypto.
And everyone's saying like it could be his Bitcoin that moved. That's crazy as well because obviously they would have tried to seize absolutely everything. But then people. There were loads of wallets that they would have got a guy like that. He'll have a wallet somewhere. Yeah. Like that's safe. And it's not so funny is I imagine he gets out. He's like, I'm headed straight to the wallet. Yeah.
He's so fucking happy and then picks as well. He was his name, man. He was what? All bricked, all bright UL. Yeah. I mean, he's probably that mate. I don't know when he would have found out or got wind that he might be pardoned, like if it would have been before Trump came into office. No, he did not. Trump has said.
Even before he got elected he said if if I get elected he's getting part of it. So that election night for him must have been the crazy fucking ride ever because it could be a camera Harris hate watch would have gone nuts. Yeah. Oh my god. That would be crazy for him. Let's fucking go. Do you not find it mental the fact that the president can just come in and go? Yep, you're free.
Well, what's even more insane is Joe Biden goes, oh, yeah, I'm just pardoning my whole family. Yeah. I think I saw a little thing about it as well, the reason why he got such a crazy sentence and everything or like a conspiracy or whatever. But because he kind of like with his marketplace proved that digital currency can work and it's kind of against the government, you know, like they control it. They couldn't control it. They do not like this. Hey, fuck this guy. Let's make sure nobody does his rest of life in prison.
Yeah, that's so true. I don't know how old he was when he got when he got next. Can you Google that project? Yeah. He's done his time in there, though. He's been in there for a while. Oh, mate. Yeah. I'd love to know more than everybody knows. Yeah. And the message through just being like, he's pardoned you, mate. You're good to go. Arrested in 2013. So he's been inside for a long years. Wow. That's so mad at it. There was a lad from my school I must have been about.
13, and he was just going on the dark web. That's where everyone had that kid in their year. Yeah, but he was just going to the dark web. And I remember he got suspended because he started printing fake money at school.
and the police had rocked up at the school, and everyone was mad confused, and then he wasn't in class, and then it got filtered through that the police were chatting to him, and trying to scare him, essentially, and then he got suspended as well, but he was just printing money on the school print. I mean, as a kid, you'd just say, oh, this is a little cheat code. And also, as well, every printer is a printer. And it's on an 8-4 bit of paper, like, who are we fooling? Every single printer, I don't know when they brought it in, but I'm sure every single printer, when it prints,
like in really small prints a number, a series of numbers onto whatever you print out. Like they can find it and track which printer exactly that it came from. That's wild. Using that. Don't know when that came in and it was probably because of like counterfeit money. Yeah, but how you, I swear you'd need a special type of prints. I think money is made of like polymer.
Well, it depends on our ones waterproof. That's fucking good. I don't know if it's our ones or the American bill. It is. Paper bills, aren't they? Yeah, ours is, ours is, ours is plastic. Yeah, ours is, I don't know. Either way, there was actually, I remember watching a video on a couple that figured out a system of counterfeiting money went around the state spending it all. I've seen this. Have you seen that? I can't remember the names. It was a couple. Yeah. You should do that for the next one. Maybe I'll tell you what, when I, I'll go through it, read about it, sorry, and I'll bring it in for the next episode because it was, it was interesting.
I was with someone at the races once and he won a bet and got given a fake 50 pound note. Oh, and instead of handing it back to the booking saying this is fake, he went to, I think the same bookie again, put that 50 quid on a horse and it won and he got normal money back. Unfortunately, brother games again. Yeah. I mean, like it's a shit situation. I think he was a policeman as well. I didn't know the guy, but he just thought fuck. I was thinking this. I was walking back the other day, right? Actually from the office and I was thinking like, look, if you're a policeman,
But you just aren't smoking it up, but you're just doing some illegal shit, but just they're like, ah, that. I can't arrest myself. Oh, they must be.
Yeah, they're getting up to- You have to be really careful, though. They're not goody two shoes either. You have to be really careful, though, because there are some, and if they're with a group allegedly that are doing drugs. For example, if you and your mates, and let's say you're the police officer and we're here, and I'm like, oh mate, I've got a bag of weed from before. You're my mate, you're not doing me, are you?
No, obviously not. No, because it's just a little light one. Obviously, if I've killed someone, then you'd be like, OK, mate. I'm sure every policeman that's like my age has been around people doing gear on a night out. And they've not done anything about it. Right. Do you reckon? 100%. There'll be some that do, though. Yeah, there'll be some. Like, could you imagine if your mates just say, like, put your hands? You're like, sorry. Oh, Dave, you're winding me up here, mate. Yeah.
No, surely not David. He's like, you're on a table as the only back. I get commission for this, puts the gear in his pocket, goes and if it is something, the toilet, while you're doing a night in the cells. Uncoffs him. That would be the ultimate wind up that. What? If you were actual cop and your mates just had like a bag out, and then you just arrest them. Oh my God. But like you would take it. You would take it. Beat your feet for just march round his gaff, like nowhere his stash is and be like, you're getting done, pal.
Yeah, that's wild. All right, what else we got on here? Oh, the YouTuber Grand Prix. Oh, yeah, we did do that. That's our quadrant video. Danny and Ginger are a bit fucking crazy in that one. Yeah, I saw, obviously, but both of them mainly, of course, Danny likes to get the wrong end of the stick and they were cooking him.
I just don't think people fully get what the vibe is of those things. I know it's a little bit dangerous. I get that. It was just having fun. But there's also content here. It's not like it's in your frogs where we are trying to win and there is a very competitive element.
Most people get angry at it. Yeah, because he does an unfairness. He just completely wipes out Harry. I don't think there's much of a competitive aspect to this, because a lot of the people haven't really raced. So everyone just needs to have fun, really. And if some people are going to do that, this would be nice. Am I right in saying quadrants audience of proper F1 fans as well? Yes. They probably care more than the average viewer. Yeah, they would. Yeah, for sure. It's probably why they're getting cooked a little bit in the cupboards.
Yeah. But it was a, it was a decent video. Did you win? No, Kim second. Who won? Will and Max. And Will organized it. That's like what I did on my birthday, just set up the teams. I would win. Best driver. Yeah. That was quite smart from Will. Yeah. What is it? So is that Max Futral? Is he? Yeah, he's driven. Yeah. Yeah, he is very good. And it was slightly wet as well, which made him even better.
Yeah, I feel like the pro guys when I call guys when it comes to wet and they've got like 15 10 years experience. It's hard to race against. Yeah.
Who would you say was the worst there? What was the worst team? Oh, I don't know. Danny and James probably. Maybe there was a lot of drivers that were not good. Really? Yeah. But I guess it just didn't not race before. So Danny and James were not good. Who else was on it? Oh, how are the shits and gigs boys? They were all right. Yeah. I think they got a hang of it. They were all right. They've done it before. They were pretty good.
You know, it's mainly Danny and ginger. I'm sure there were some others as well that that stunk it up I can't think of the top of my head. Yeah Yeah, then that was good. I would love to do I would have done it's doing well for them as well The video I always wanted to do a video like this but in my own style. It's just hard Well, there was the Sidemen were gonna do I know yeah, they were this but live streamed. Yeah, I was great. It never went ahead. Maybe one day it will I
Yeah, I can't remember. I think what Ethan had spoken about it on our podcast. Somebody spoke about it, so I don't think this isn't. Oh, yeah, it might have been Vic actually. Somebody mentioned they were going to do kind. And that would have been, yeah, just like a little livestream thing. Again, they'll have to be 24 hours, but a nice little, like, I don't know, like a four hour race, six hour race. Yeah, needs to be endurance just so there's enough to go wrong. Yeah. Yeah. You need to be able to do multiple driver switches and stuff. Every fueling would be really good.
Like honestly, like a six hour race, four people per team, or three people per team maybe.
And live stream, the other thing is people often forget how much it costs to live stream this stuff and to get it done well because carting in general is really hard to follow. Like even you look at the F1 races, if you didn't have the crazy set up that is already at these F1 things, it's already hard enough to follow as it is. You need like elite level commentary, elite level cameraman working on it. And that all comes at a crazy price. I actually think you could do it for like,
30 grand maybe. Sorry mate, you spent over 50 grand doing a 24 hour video. Yeah, but if you're doing like a six hour race already, it's a lot shorter. No, because walk more stream is not still a day rate that you're paying. Yeah, but the book more stream, it only costs about, I think, five grand to do for them.
like I'm taking it up to 30 that giving you the cameras are getting that's the 24 hours if we're doing so why did your video cost 50 Lord loads of stuff helmets suits they're gonna want all this sort of stuff oh if you wanted all that of course I'm talking you I thought you were talking about just the live stream
No, you're going to want like every team having their own out. Oh, like that is when it costs a lot. Yes. With the live stream costings though. I remember we don't need to speak about it, but we got quoted for a live stream idea. Yeah, the paddle tournament. Yeah. Yeah, I wanted to do a YouTuber paddle tournament on fellas. Yeah.
and even that, what was that 50? 50 grand for a paddle tournament to be livestreamed. And it would be like maybe three, four hours long. Fuck it, we can just do it in a little bummy way, get some girl pros out. Yeah. I mean, look, what Jones is doing did a great little livestream from his phone.
Oh, right. Yeah. Well, that's how all live streamers do it now. They just lack a couple of phones in the corner of the paddles. Take them and go was like to make your pubes ginger. Is that one you're talking about? Oh, yeah, we had that now. He spoke about that in the app. Yeah. Oh, but well, I guess there you go. We've got ginger next week. Yes.
So you guys will see a bunch of the stuff. It was actually a really great episode. Stan, Stan Lee started, like, screening like a little pig when he walked through the door, like, oh, my God, it's angry gin. Like, bear text in me in the middle of the pod. Like, he's so funny. I remember when I did my nighttime video, right? And that was a crazy setup. The darkness video.
And we had a room upstairs full of servers, cameras, everything was linked up through the house. So it could all be controlled and recorded and 4K and the files were fucking massive and everything. It was a crazy ourselves. But I just shopped around and I got a good deal on it. And it cost about £10,000. And there's nothing stopping that from just being live. Really? It's a good investment that then. Well, I mean, it did all right. I probably made money on them. Oh, did you? OK. It got a million views. Oh, did it? Yeah.
I swear it did terribly. I remember you coming to me. I found it one of those videos that was like a really cool idea, but it was quite hard to follow. I've already figured out in my head I kind of know that there should have been another angle to it. It was all in the dark, whereas Will took the idea and did it a lot better. He did it where it was one person's in the dark, one's in the country that doesn't ever go dark.
And it was like, we're waiting to release Mikey from The Darkness. And I was like, that is just my idea, but a million times better. It's a smarter concept, more YouTuby. But it's one of those. I want to get your thoughts on something, Chip. Yeah. Yes, there had Kobe Brown, Astro-Kobe on the podcast. And he was telling me about a theory about aliens. Yep. And aliens, the way we know them, from the Hollywood idea of an alien, is the future form of a human being.
Okay. Well, like an evolution of a human. Yeah. So the way we're heading as human beings is what aliens, Hollywood perceive aliens to look like.
It's not like a terrible shot, really. The great aliens do look like humans, but just small... Apparently our heads are getting bigger in relativity to our body. Oh, okay. So we're just going to end up looking like us, fuckers. Yeah. I spit Pete that. I spit shit. I kind of like what we're at now. I'd change a few things, obviously.
Yeah, there's been an eight, there's been a crazy clip come out by the way over the last week. It was meant to be like the most groundbreaking UAP clip of all time. And it was getting pushed out of the news. No, the clip came out. No, no, I know, but I'm saying it hasn't been as big of a thing as it should have been, maybe because Trump's taken. Also, because the clip was kind of
Not that great. So essentially they were talking about, look, we've got this new whistleblower. I've already forgot his name. But it was Wasser's in Canada. So I haven't researched it properly yet. But we've got this new whistleblower, kind of like David Grusch. You know, I think he was a high ranking something. Maybe in the air force, something like that. He's like, I've got a video of a UAP retrieval from a military aircraft that's 100 feet in the air. It has a rope hanging off it, like a metal rod carrying what is an egg shaped craft that's 20 foot long.
And it's in the nighttime. So it's obviously, you know, night vision kind of look to the video. And everyone's like, Oh, this sounds super proper. The guy to be fair to the guy. What he described is exactly what it is. He says, it's an egg. It is an egg, a 24 egg. Did he say 24 egg and the helicopter is 100 feet in this guy. We can get this YouTube video. So go on to YouTube and type in egg, UAP retrieval. Maybe that I'll just bring it up. That should do it.
This is it. Top one. Yeah. Yeah. Give us some audio if you want. Because this is exactly when it actually went live. Everybody was waiting for it to go live. And I think on a Saturday, maybe a Sunday for us because it was Saturday for America, but I don't know what my headphones are.
So yeah, this is the video. And it's not. It is a bit disappointing, I think. It is a bit disappointing. But at the same time, I don't know what people were expecting. UFO retrieval. Take a look at your screen. Footage that was never before seen until last night's special report going viral today. A white egg-like object with no visible propulsion system or engine.
Whistleblower, Jake Barber, sitting down with our news nation's special correspondent, Ross Kultar, breaking down shocking claims about an alleged UFO crash retrieval program. And for years, people like David Grush and Lou Elizondo have alleged the existence of such a program.
And everybody, Jeremy Corbell, everyone gas in this up, like all the main guys within the community, the general community was really excited for this because it's like when we get somewhere, it's normally quite big, because especially when it's coming from a whistleblower.
But I've got a lot of questions about that video. Same. Yeah, just like, where is that? Yeah, that's a great point. It looks like it's in some form of desert. Yeah. And is it? Are they saying, sorry, they're saying it's like a UAP retrieval thing. So does that mean this thing had crashed? And then they went to go like pick it up? Yeah. Why wouldn't you just like go along the ground to pick it up?
We need more info. I wish I could. Yeah, I haven't fully gone into it. I just watched the clip and then I read a few comments and stuff at the time. Yeah, that's interesting. I will probably research it. But yeah, so there's that. There's more 4chan stuff now as well. Someone coming out, backing it up, giving that because it's a good 4chan read. Really? Yeah, it's a good read. Should we drop 4chan or we do that on the burner? We can try and do it on the burner. I can get it up for you because it is a good read. Yeah. And I think I think he actually attaches a picture of another egg.
Yeah, he's dropping back it up by saying like the X or like a main form of thingy. I love that. And it was found in like the Antarctica. It's like seven years old. Didn't realize 4chan was still knocking about. No, it's brother. That's the home of just bad shit. Everyone on there is an anonymous poster, aren't they? I've never personally used it like that. I've always everyone anonymous on Reddit if you want to be. Yeah, I guess so. I don't know. No, you have to have an account. Yeah, you'd have to make a burner account. Yeah.
Anyways, yeah, so I guess we'll just wrap it up there, honestly. Oh! Guys, thank you very much for listening. Of course, make sure you check out 165. Yes. We've got a bunch of hoodies and stuff. The green ones are already nearly gone. So if you actually want a green one, you've got to get fucking moving. Yeah. Just a second restock and it's nearly sold out again.
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