#2055 - Tim Kennedy
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November 01, 2023
TLDR: Tim Kennedy, a Green Beret and retired UFC fighter, founded Sheepdog Response and Save our Allies to rescue Americans and allies in war-torn environments through evacuation or extraction operations.
In episode #2055 of the podcast, Tim Kennedy, a Green Beret, retired UFC fighter, and founder of Sheepdog Response, discusses his experiences and insights on resilience, self-empowerment, and the current state of affairs globally. The conversation transcends traditional topics, touching on personal growth, combat sports, and significant geopolitical issues.
Key Discussion Points
1. Tim Kennedy's Personal Journey
- Background: Tim shares anecdotes from his life, including his life as a UFC fighter and his military career as a Green Beret.
- Growth Through Challenges: He discusses how facing adversity, whether in the ring or in combat situations, has shaped him into the person he is today.
2. Resilience and Self-Empowerment
- Mental Preparedness: Tim emphasizes the importance of mental discipline in combat sports. He notes how activities like jiu-jitsu and boxing foster resilience and self-defense skills.
- Physical Fitness Importance: The episode details how physical fitness contributes to better mental health, encouraging listeners to adopt healthier lifestyles.
3. Crisis Management
- Current Global Crises: Tim reflects on his involvement in various humanitarian missions, including efforts in Afghanistan, Ukraine, and Israel. He highlights the stark realities faced during these crises and the role of organizations like Save Our Allies, which he co-founded.
- Aid Challenges: Delving into the complexities of rescue missions in hostile environments, Tim sheds light on navigating bureaucratic red tape and the realities of helping people in crisis.
4. Social Issues and Responsibility
- Indifference and Accountability: Tim discusses the growing issues of social responsibility, emphasizing the need for individuals to take ownership of their actions and communities. He expresses concern over how many people are disconnected from these responsibilities.
- Educational Reform: Reflecting on the public education system, Tim suggests a more community-focused approach to education that encourages parents to engage actively in their children's academic journeys.
5. Combat Sports as a Metaphor for Life
- Martial Arts Philosophy: The discussion pivots to the philosophical aspects of martial arts, highlighting how grappling, boxing, and other forms of combat training instill valuable life lessons, such as respect, patience, and humility.
- Impact on Children: Tim advocates for implementing self-defense education and martial arts training for children, arguing it can contribute significantly to their personal development and cohesiveness in society.
6. Current Events and Political Climate
- Censorship and Propaganda: Tim delves into the current political atmosphere, discussing censorship on social media platforms and how it affects communication around sensitive topics.
- International Relations and History: He provides insight into historical tensions involving Israel and Palestine, calling for clearer narratives about the complexities involved rather than oversimplified portrayals.
Valuable Takeaways
- Self-Empowerment is Key: Embrace personal responsibility for your safety, education, and health.
- Engage in Physical Activities: Participation in combat sports can improve mental and physical resilience.
- Community Involvement: Become actively involved in community and educational initiatives, promoting a healthy, educated society.
- Open Communication: Foster transparent discussions around controversial subjects without fear of censorship.
Conclusion
Tim Kennedy’s discussion in this episode is a potent reminder of the complexities of modern life, urging listeners to cultivate personal strength, community engagement, and resilience against external threats. Through sharing his experiences and insights, he inspires a proactive approach to the challenges we face today, whether at home or on the global stage.
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I don't know what blend it is.
I'm going to be fully transparent. I only like the bougie black rifle blends. The bougie blends? Yeah, like the Ethiopian stuff. Yeah, like even any sort of... Everyone be like, oh, so I soul-sourced selected this being from this place and I roasted it this way. I'm like, oh, it's going to be good.
And it's good. Well, every year I do elk hunting camp with Evan. We share an elk hunting camp in California. So we just got back. And so Evan makes coffee for us every day. So he gets up and he fucking hand measures everything and he brings his own fucking special blends. He had two different blends because he knows I like a dark roast. We had a dark roast and then he had this.
Really bizarre, exotic coffee that tasted different than anything I'd ever had before. It was like kind of like, almost like a sweet, almost like a tea taste to it. He's a master. He was using tax-paying dollars to start his coffee obsession.
Was he really? Yeah, so when he was both in group and at the agency, he would take, we have discretionable funds that you can spend on whenever and area improvement is an appropriate way for you to spend money. So he would buy like a $20,000 espresso machine.
and a $3,000 grinder in some middle of nowhere Ford operating base where he's making coffee and like just being a total nerd. It's all taxpayer money. It's awesome. Like finally something's been used with tax paying dollars that benefits the soldier, which is rare. We ran out of coffee filters and someone was like, well, you just use paper towels and he just like, fuck no, we're not gonna use paper towels.
I was like, dude, we're not using paper towels. Look at him. He's little, but he's mighty. He's very serious. He's not used paper towels. Love that, dude. He's very serious about his coffee. Or skydiving next month. You've been to his place in Utah? Yeah. The lab that he has set up at Black Rifle? Yeah, he made me do like... Fucking insane. One of the little tastes where they do this thing with the spoon. Yeah. And then you have to smell it first, and you have to do something with your tongue. And I was like, is this? What are we doing here? I can't.
I can't do that. I can't go that far. It's like with wine. Like when people are like, oh, hints of oak. I like it. I like it. You can do that. This goes well without eating right now. I have a friend, my friend Matt. I'll call. He's a real wine freak. And I'll just show him a photo of the wine page at a restaurant. What should I get? He'll tell me. He'll just text me. He loves it.
So I'm like, I've got that farmed off. If I can outsource things that I don't have to keep on my brain. Yeah, I do not want to have to pay attention. Oh, you're so good. And that's how I do it with coffee, too. Like Evan's like, I'll send you a bag of that stuff. I'm like, great. What was it again? I forget what it was, but it was like fruity and
Another one like as Jack Carr is so incredible Evan so I'm skydiving all I was supposed to be skydiving all last week But I was in Israel and then so I had to move it to the right Because we're doing this Moab jump with a bunch of your your friends Mike Sirelli and Mike Glover and Evan and
So I need to brush off, knock off the dust a little bit. And he sends me this super fancy, designed helmet from Black Rifle, a skydive helmet, a G3 for, just sent it to me. All right, this is really cool. I mean, skydiving with this helmet that is way above my ability, because I'm just total skydrash.
I have never, and I'm not doing it. I have zero desire. I don't get it. I don't get Andy Stump with his fucking flying squirrel suit. Fuck you. I'll help you there too. Of course, that's easy for him. He's used to the flying squirrel suit. I think he's one of the regular skydiving ain't shit.
I asked Andy if he'd be interested in helping me use like bass jump stuff and wing suit stuff and just all I got was no. It's like, can you expand on that? He's like all of my friends. I used to do this with her dead. So no, Tim.
Okay. Well, great conversation. That was fun. That is like the death rate in that stuff. Like he was telling me like how many like if you send out fucking 20 people to do that, how many come back? It's not good. No. Yeah, you find a different hobby.
This is not a good one. Did you ever see the video where the guy is trying to fly in between the arches of a bridge? The sound, the clang of metal when his meat and bones hit that bridge. It was terrible.
There's like a watermelon traveling at 200 miles an hour, impacting metal. Yeah. And you can't imagine what that sound, like you imagine what that sound would be until you hear it, and that was a watermelon with bone slamming against metal, which was a human, which is now nothing. Nothing. A splatter. It's instantaneous. I mean, he's probably going 100 miles an hour, you know? Faster. Probably. Yeah. How fast do you go with those things?
If you're in a dive position, you're going 160 to 200 miles an hour. And if you're stable flying, maybe 140. Yeah, so when you're navigating like he was, I bet he was going 140, 150 miles an hour.
Which really makes you appreciate nature and evolution that the Pergen falcon does like what does it do like 220 or something insane and can change on a dime like flip you can go up to 220 horizontally oh
Oh, fast. 220 in a car fucking feels insane. I've never done it. I don't know, but I mean, I've done like, we went to the local racetrack, that place up there, Coda. Oh, our lights not on. We went to Coda recently, and Coda gets up to like...
I mean, we were in a Lamborghini, went to like 147, and that feels fucking insane. At a racetrack. I got this thing going, James. You got it, you got it. Oh, there we go. Yeah, that long straightaway into that almost 180 turn on a motorcycle is one of the scariest things I have ever felt.
Have you done that track? Yeah. Oh, that track is awesome. Yeah. I mean, except for that, like my test goals were up into my stomach. Yeah. And I thought I'm a brave, courageous human and I was just 100% coward on a racetrack. Right. Well, at least if you wipe out, you just kind of like, why? Yeah. We were watching Formula One there. That is fucking wild. Those guys are...
flying. They're going so much faster than regular cars. You can really get a perspective when you've actually driven around the car in like a GT car to track rather. And then you see those guys. It's wild. And there's levels too. You know, every time I think that I'm good at something, then you go with somebody that's actually good at that thing. And then yours, I am so trash. Yeah, I thought I knew how to drive a car until I got lessons and like, oh, I suck at driving too.
Great. These are the long litany of things that I suck at, which are just made so clear. And then unfortunately, I don't want to suck at it. So now I have this new addiction. Now I want to go to the fucking track all the time, which is not the best thing for like time management. Yeah. Because it's a fucking full day thing, you know? It's like golf or something like that. Like I've never played golf and I won't play golf because it's a time management thing. Yeah. Like I don't have that like Ron White and Tony Hinchcliffe, they go out and they play for fucking eight hours. I'm like, bro, I don't have eight hours.
Ever. You get stuff done on the golf course. No, you don't. Maybe if you're a hedge fund manager and you want to figure out how to rip people off. I enjoy the shooting and golf have a lot in common, like precision rifle. So I enjoy that portion of it. So I definitely don't need to do this other thing with a club and a ball. I have a pool addiction, which is very similar, the billiards. I play pool at a pretty high level.
I have a real problem with that. I could play eight, nine hours a day. Those are easy. Those are dorks. Yeah. Real pool nerds. Oh, yeah. They're genius. Yeah. And they're weird, and they're so freaking good.
They're so fucking smart. That's what's crazy. Like really good pool players are fucking smart. Because you have to be, because you have to, it's problem solving. You have to figure out how to manage geometry and also feel. And then you have to execute the shot to under pressure. Yeah. Very similar to Jiu Jitsu in this. Archery. Yeah, this physical application of this mental complex problem. Yeah. That is, you know, in real time changing
Every second. Yeah, I think Jiu Jitsu is the most complex of those things, but it's also the one that breaks your body the most. That's the problem with Jiu Jitsu.
They were really good in this long, I've totally changed now that all of these monsters have moved to Austin. And another example of where I thought I was just this freak grappler until I met real freak grapplers. And I'm like, man, I'm not even top 20. You know, I'm maybe top 100 now. And so that realization with the Giancarlo Badoni's and the Gordon Ryan's, the Victor Hugo's, the Marigellis and the Craig Jones's, you know, like, is that wild? How many fucking people are you?
Sean, she's here too. Everyone's here. I was in his academy this morning. It's amazing. I mean, no, no, it's not amazing, Joe. It's not. You know what I'm saying? This is the spectrum of a great another thing that I'm trash at. But I've totally changed. I want to do jiu-jitsu until I'm 100 years old. And so.
I'm so intentional about what my roles are, who my life goes are with. That's important. It's so important. And also keeping, you're very good at keeping up your physical body, which a lot of people are not. They just roll and they just train, which you really can't.
No, I split my effort in a week almost evenly between grappling, striking, physical development, strength, speed, and then that long recovery, longevity aspect of it. That's how my week is broken into for my training. You almost have to treat your body like a pit crew.
like you really have to change your fucking tires, you gotta do the whole thing. You can't just like, how do they look good? No, you gotta like really treat it like there's a methodical approach that must be done in order to race. If you wanna train, you kinda have to do that. It's not good for the ego. I got away with it when I was 25 and fighting. Well you got away with it while you're also active duty, which is pretty crazy.
Yeah, I should have been a little bit more intentional and disciplined about how I spent my time. I took youth for granted. Everybody does. Youth is wasted on the young. Is it a wild? Especially when you're dumb.
That is hard. Well, most young people are dumb. Yeah. And supposed young people that do the kind of stuff that we enjoy. Yeah. Yeah. And we did dumb stuff. It was life. Everything's good, man. Everything's really good. I was shooting Bo yesterday. My buddy Tyson got Rob from Roka gave him a bow. Another great person that does great things for people that I resent. Oh, Rob's great. Yeah. Like, you never gave me a bow. Like, I was never given a bow. Like, how does this just happen?
So he came over and do you want one? No, I got a great I got a great bow. What do you get about from? From archery country. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's my spot. Yeah, I was there this morning got a good archery contribution right here. Yeah, let's go
I got six new arrows today. Um, I shot through one of my archery targets and it hit the wood in the back and I was like inspecting my arrow and I saw like this, just little tiny fine line along the side of it. And I was like, you're done. Oh, carbon. Yeah. You got to be really careful about that. A lot of those explode and it goes through people's hands. I can't.
I love those videos. I can't watch them, but I love them. Do you watch them? You do watch them. Yeah, I've seen them. Yeah, I don't enjoy them. I check all my shit religiously though because of that. I used to, I had a Teflon glove that I tried to wear for a while. A lot of guys wear a Teflon glove to make sure that never happens, but it's like, it's never happened to me. I've been shooting a bow for 10 years.
I love it. Yeah, it's great. I've built about 180 degree 3D or tree range in the backyard and back three acres. Yeah, I got full size elk and pigs and coyotes and a bunch of little deer. So anywhere from 100 yards and I hate that I have to say yards.
instead of meters. We should have changed over. We almost did when I was in, I guess I was in high school and they were trying to change everybody over. It makes more sense. America is so fucked up with that. We're like, nah. Fuck the rest of the world. Inch is bitch. We made it to the moon off. Half inches and feet. Great. Thanks. That's a long time ago. That's a long time ago. Fuck soccer.
All the rest of the world is on the metric system. I love how England still sticks with the stone. They're still with the stone thing. The dumbest unit of measurement. When we used to do fights over there and I had to do the weigh-ins, I used to have to say stone as well as pounds.
It's like, okay, why are we doing that? Is this confusing when I just say pounds? It's confusing enough when we have to throw on how much somebody weighs in kilos, and then how much they weigh in pounds, and we throw in stones, and we're just like, okay. Kilo's Celsius, I was watching this video this guy was talking about, well, it's 30 degrees out, so it's a nice day to go out and shoot. I was like, 30 degrees. I was like, oh, he's in Canada. All right, okay, you communist, using that bullshit metric system. They really are right now too. They are.
They're full on. I never thought it would happen that fast. Bro, it's so bad. I'm worried that my podcast is going to be censored in Canada. It's going to pass some new fucking legislation where they're allowed to. The whole idea is under the guise of Canadian content, because they have a Canadian content law,
where they like you have to have a certain amount of Canadian based content on like the radio and television and stuff like that. You can't just have all stuff from all over the world, whatever people like. You have to have like a certain percentage of it has to be Canadian. And so under the guise of that, but really it's true dough trying to enforce censorship on podcast because they always do it in the cover and every dangerous
freedom censoring group does it under this idea of they're doing it for the greater good. It's like whether it's diversity, equity, and inclusion, or it's making sure that pro not disinformation or misinformation is being populated within the masses. It's always through this veil of no, no, it's for your benefit.
But you pull the veil back a little bit and it's just censorship. It's just control. Yeah, they're just trying to manipulate what information's available for people to try to base their opinions off of. Have you ever seen that video of Trudeau from like 10 years ago? It might have been from more. It might have been like 2010. And he's talking about how he's opposed to... Do you got coffee in there? Yeah. Salute. My friend, cheers.
He's opposed to regulations with guns because he's like regulations are the first step that they take and the ultimate goal is to remove your gun So we will not have regulations like he's talking about this like in 2010 or 2011
I mean, he was following a playbook, so he absolutely didn't believe that, though, because he knew that within a decade, he would be trying to confiscate every single gun that he could get his hands on and make transfer of pistols illegal, which is illegal. It's illegal. If I have a pistol and I want to sell you a pistol, I cannot.
That's it. It's so wild. It's so wild how quick it changed over there. They use COVID to just enforce these sweeping legislations across all sectors. They don't have a free speech. They don't have a First Amendment over there.
hate speech laws, which would be interpreted so vaguely. And this is what Jordan Peterson was rallying against, like back when they had this bill that was set up to make people use someone's gender identity. And he was like, well, what gender identity you're talking about? There's 78 current gender identities that someone can choose to identify with.
including just complete nonsense, made up words, and it's going to keep going. I don't know how many of them there are now. But it's like the only way you enforce this is with you're going to have to use force. And it's like the rule of law. Now it's like you're going to send armed thugs to arrest people for not using made up words. Like this is where this goes. Especially Peterson who knows so much about communism and so much about where the darkness that it leads down to.
I love that he approaches it both from a philosophical perspective and a historical perspective. He is so well versed and knowledgeable in the argument that they're making from this position. This is where it leads to. Not only do we understand this in human nature, and here's a bunch of examples of it, but then also historically, here's a bunch of examples of it.
So it makes it really hard to dispute what is really logical and rational. If you're here and they want to go from point A to point B, this is the process for them to get there. And you're like, yeah, another brilliant man that does a lot of good. Well, you need a guy like him who has such a deep understanding of history and also is a clinical psychologist who understands the human mind on a very, very deep level. So he can explain things in a way that is
almost impossible to refute. He's got all his bases covered when he discusses the subject and he can fucking pull it off of his head. The guy uses no notes and he just will quote things and explain things in the most complex manner and make it absorbable to everybody.
We're in a parallel fight right now on the education side. I have Apigee, which is I have a physical school here and we have an online mentorship and we're launching an additional 50 schools. This year started a big huge foundation, the Apigee Foundation, all to just to turn this public school problem on its ear as we've indoctrinated this entire generation to hate America.
And, you know, we're in a really scary position. Military is having recruiting issues, you know, we're having identity problems in every imaginable way with this, you know, Gen Z and millennials just not knowing what their purpose is. And when you look at the public school system and the Department of Education, it's just a broken system. Teachers are great. Most of them, on majority, I think have a real
pure heart to do good, but they're in a system that is forcing them or they're allowing to manipulate kids to radicalize them into really anti-American ideas. Something has to change because the current trajectory, we're screwed.
the lack of individual responsibility and as Jocko would say, extreme ownership of what the issues are and how to solve them are absolutely absent. We have entitlements, we have accepting these identities, we have obviously this mental health crisis, and all of it really goes back when you look at
the pandering that is happening in public schools for eight hours in a day, there's no way that you could come out of that process, not being jacked up. Right. You're going to get some of it's going to leak into your brain, no matter how much your parents talk to you or no matter how much you have your own ideas about life, there's a certain amount that people just absorb from their atmosphere and accept.
There's a certain amount of it that people just accept. And it's so manipulative when, you know, a third grade teacher is assigning you a project of, okay, you are a Palestinian freedom fighter here in the United States. What are some ways that you can help the Palestinians in Gaza be free? Like that is your assignment. Give me five examples or even better, you'll get five points extracurricular for extracurricular activities where you went and did something to help at a Palestinian protest or pro-Palestinian
And it's just like you've effectively radicalized a kid into a freedom fighter with one assignment. They have no choice but to participate if they want to receive good grade. That was on the news yesterday. That exact situation was happening. And it's detestable. It's so bizarre. It's so bizarre that people don't see where this goes.
They don't see the end of it. And it's not to say that the plight of the innocent Palestinians is not a fucking terrible situation to be in. If you're stuck in Gaza under the rule of Hamas and then you have Israel just like detained, keeps everybody detained in this one area, it's not good for them either.
2.4 million people in an area the site of Washington DC. And I like the user word stuck because they are. We have 240 hostages that are in Gaza, like legitimate Israeli-American, Brazilian, from almost every single nation, there's hostages in Gaza currently from October 7th.
But the 2.4 million people, the Palestinians that live in Gaza, they are being held hostage by 30 to 40,000 radical Hamas and about seven other radical organizations that are terrorist organizations. So your word stuck could not be more accurate. There are great peaceful, wonderful Muslims in Gaza that voted in a terrorist organization. When the PLO and Hamas were trying to figure out who is actually going to be the ruling party of the Palestinian people,
Hamas won out. And now they are the size of a cartel being funded $70 million a year from Iran is being pumped into Hamas. And all they're doing is taking every little bit of humanitarian aid and converting it into military resources. And those poor people, those poor Palestinians are trapped in between all of this.
It's wild. It's such a complex problem that is solvable, but it's heartbreaking when you look at the individual level of the kids that are there and the women that are there and the civilians that are there are literally trapped, as you said, stuck. And if you're Israel, how do you fix it? If you're Palestinian, how do you fix it? When it's so evident that Hamas wants one thing, which is the elimination and genocide of all Jews.
And are there any Muslim countries that are accepting Palestinian refugees? No, they never have. That seems insane because there's all this support for the Palestinians. If you're Islamic, if you're a Muslim and you want to support these Muslims,
Wouldn't you? Wouldn't you support the idea that your country his Muslim country would accept those people and they could be in a place where they could be free 22 Arab nations over 40 Muslim nations internationally, right? There's one Jew nation
And that one-genation Israel has done more for the Palestinian people than any other nation ever. So it's ludicrous and it's insulting to the Palestinian people to start throwing stones at Israel when in fact they're the only group that has been trying to protect and in any administrative way provide food, water, and resources to the people that are there. Over 40 Muslim countries, not one of them is accepting any Palestinian refugees. What is the answer to that? Like why?
They're a problem that is with the radicals that are embedded inside of them. How do you differentiate between a peaceful Muslim Palestinian to who is a radical that is working for Hamas? How do you do that?
Right. So as I'm getting evacuation requests two weeks ago, and we're trying to be good, proper, judicious servants, how do I know that this name of this person is not trying to fill out an evacuation form, to be assisted to move from an area that they're currently denied in, where their area of movement is restricted,
for any other reasons besides that they need help. Like it's a really hard multiple levels of truth to try to peel back to figure out who some of these people are and what their intentions are. And it's been that way for a really long time. You go all the way back to like 1987 when Hamas really started moving and fighting with the PLO for control of the air. You know, Yassar Arafat was meeting with Clinton and the prime minister of Israel and they're making negotiations in Oslo and
all the way up to, you know, the first Intifada, to the second Intifada, to then I'll suicide attacks, pizzeria is blowing up. Like, how do you determine who is good and who's bad? Do they have suicide vest? Do they not? Or like, what are their intentions? It's wildly hard.
You have been involved just in the last few years in two of the most heartbreaking scenes that we've seen depicted in the media. The botched withdrawal from Afghanistan, you leave that and now you just got back from Israel.
I mean, I'm over what's happened the past three years. There's actually four consecutive. So the day I got back from Afghanistan, because I went from Afghanistan to Albanian Brazil and Italy and Greece to try to have them take refugees. So my post-Afghanistan work lasted a few more weeks.
because there were a lot of Afghan refugees and non-American citizens that weren't even Afghanis that we had to figure out where we're going to put. So that carried off, you know, the attack happened September 26, where, or August 26, where the bomb abbey gate went off and the American service members were killed.
And we left a few days later. Two weeks later, we're now into mid-September. I come back and I immediately, the day I land, I get assigned to go down to the Mexican border. And I spent six months on the Mexican border, on Operation Lone Star, part of a special operation task force combating cartels, traffickers, human traffickers, drugs mugglers. So there was humanitarian crisis number two in my life in three years, which was the Mexican border. Some of the worst stuff I've ever seen in my life.
on par with Afghanistan, on par with what was the next one, which was Ukraine. The day I got off orders where I was legally allowed to travel or I was not. So when you're on orders, you have to do what the army says, right? And the army said, this is what you're going to do. So for six months, I was on this assignment at the border. The day I got off those orders, I'm back to a civilian Tim Kennedy. So then I traveled to Ukraine. I worked Ukraine for a few months during that conflict and post invasion.
which was again horrible, like some of the worst stuff I've ever seen. Come back and I get this like momentary lull where I was like, I think like Israel. Is this gonna be okay? And then this happens, you know, then October seven happens and it was just.
in three years for this level of horror to happen, it's indescribable. It seems like it's ramping up. It is. So you're saying that the experience that you had at the border was as bad as anything? Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I mean, this is, I'm not gonna, you're not gonna get me, I'm just gonna take a sip here.
So we're in Afghanistan, right? Babies are stuck in Konstantina wire. Taliban is executing civilians in the street to try to prompt Americans to do a response, try and elicit some escalation, right? They're really just flexing to show that they were in charge. So that's Afghanistan on the ground. Burnt babies, you know, as I'm going out to try and find Americans or our allies that are out in the city of Kabul to bring them into H. Kaya.
and you're stepping over like small burnt babies, like it's the worst thing ever. Fast forward three weeks.
where the Del Rio River. And there are 400 immigrants trying to cross the river. They have babies up on their shoulders and the coyotes, the traffickers, every single person that's in the river has paid the cartels to be escorted across the border. Well, concurrently, the cartel is about to smuggle 500 meters up the river, two dudes with bundles of fentanyl on their back.
So I'm dealing with this gigantic humanitarian problem of a few hundred people at night trying to cross a dark, cold, flowing water with babies on their shoulders. And what do the coyotes do? The moment that they start getting close to the shore, they just grab the kids.
down into the drink, down into the water. Babies are floating, little children are screaming. Why would they do this? Because I have to spend resources of my personnel to flood to try to save these immigrants from drowning in the river. And I have to throw a ton of resources in people at them to try and save them so they don't die in the river. At the exact same time, the resources that I have to use personnel wise here,
They're getting guys successfully onto the shore with bags full of fentanyl as they run into the inland, into the interior. And they know exactly what they're doing. They're making money by moving people while they're concurrently making money, smuggling drugs, and throwing humanitarian crisis at us so that they can move drugs simultaneously. And that's hard for people that are trying to do good. How do you choose which problem to attack?
We had a service member that dived into the water to try to save a baby and he drowned. We took us a week to find his body. A Texas National Guardsman dove in there to try to find a baby that had got pushed off and he drowned trying to save her.
Is it a matter of resources? Is there none of the resources being put into... Well, obviously, this whole thing reeks of... It's so terrible to say, but it seems like this is a concentrated effort and not just from the cartel. It seems like this is something that's being allowed to happen.
the benefits of, there's lots, I mean, that's a hard question. Texas has a way different position than the federal government as to the immigration problem. And their approach are almost in conflict. So when you get to the real bad actors with, you know,
sexual trafficking cartel members, drug smugglers, weapon smugglers, you know, of course you're going to see federal assets being leveraged to attack those problem sets. But the large humanitarian problem
The federal government is going to have a way different approach compared to the Texas government. The Texas government is like, no, this is a legal immigration. We have lawful ports of entry. You have to legally come into the United States through a legal port of entry. And then once you're here, we will process you in accordance with what the Department of State says the immigration process is. Because there's a rule and we're a country of laws, so you have to follow the law. Anything else is illegal.
The other side of that coin is the federal approach, which is anybody that makes across the border, you are now here and we're going to process you, which is insanity. Why do they do that? Do you think they're trying to bring in voters? Yeah.
Yeah, it grows the government. It's more entitled people that you have to pay, more entitlement programs that you have to pay to support. Those people are immediately shipped into the interior. I find it comical and I know people think it's not appropriate for the Texas government. They've been shipping immigrants to some of these sanctuary cities that
they have said that their sanctuary cities until they've actually received a lot of immigrants and they're like oh my god we can't handle this number of immigrants and it's like one percent of what comes over the border every single day here in texas that we have to deal with all the time the the Yankees those north they have no idea what it's like to be a border state and the the amount just the tens and hundreds of thousands of people that are coming across every single days it's it's it is uh...
It's criminal that they're allowing it. And when did it start? When did it ramp up like this? This was never three years ago. Three years ago. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah. I mean, Trump put some pretty powerful laws in place and empowered the federal immigration laws for us at the border to have lots of tools to one turn somebody away.
If you're coming across and you're claiming asylum, well you have to go back to your country of origin or you have to go to the country that you're trying to cross from and that is where you're going to have your asylum process be determined. You're not going to come in and we're not going to allow you to go to San Diego and get to hang out in San Diego until your court date.
which is currently happening right now. You make it across. Where are you going? I'm going to San Diego. All right, show up for your immigration court date in a year and a half from now. And everybody knows this so that people are just coming across like masks. That's right, just flooding. It's so wild to watch those videos of just enormous miles long lines of people.
military age men, you know, that it's so heartbreaking. The men and women, you know, border patrol, Department of Public Safety, the Texas National Guardsmen that are working the border, they are so incredible. Selfless, hardworking, like love America and also love people. You know, they're putting their lives on the line every single day to try to protect these immigrants, but also try to
protect the law and the rule of law. And that's a really hard thing to reconcile, is what is the humane thing to do? And is that an alignment with what is the just thing to do? That's hard. They're amazing. And then once people are here and they cross over,
There's not a real screening process in terms of who's a criminal, what your history is in your country of origin. You want to get a weird Google thing, Google how many known people in the terror watch list have made it across, and it'll scare the crap out of you. Department of Homeland Security.
And the FBI, we have these gigantic lists of people that are on terror watch lists, criminal watch lists, and the number of those that we have captured at the border of obviously is just going to be a drop in a bucket of those that have made it across.
It is in light of what just happened in Israel where they flew paragliders over borders, over walls, and they crashed through walls, and then they were able to kill 1,400 people in one day. And then you look at the number, and that was 1,000 insurgents total. And then you look at the number of people that have been coming over the border for the past three years that we know are radicalized, that we know are on watch lists.
It is it should scare the pants like this scare the scary to death The position that we're at we're gonna have a real bad year
God damn it. Department of Homeland Security and the FBI yesterday, they talked about a bunch of known terrorist cells that are currently not operating. They are operating, but they are looking for opportunities, targets of opportunity to conduct terrorist activities here in the United States.
Department of State just released an entire worldwide warning to all Americans traveling abroad, saying that it is dangerous for any American to be traveling anywhere in the world right now with the amount of terrorists' cells that have now been activated.
Yeah, fuck. Yeah, so if you're in the steps program, I think it's a department of state STEP smart traveler, something program that you get notifications. If you travel abroad, you should enroll in the steps program. But what happens is
Today you would have gotten an email saying, if you're going to be traveling to every single country that you would enroll in steps that you're going to be over season, you would have gotten an email from them warning you not to go there because it's dangerous. So if if you're enrolled in like five different countries for steps, you would have got five emails today being like, Hey, bro, don't go there. Yeah, there we go.
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and visit travel.state.gov. Yeah, this crisis intake form and the flights out of Ben Gurion. So save our allies, the NGO that I was in Afghanistan for, the NGO that I was in Ukraine for, and the NGO that I was just recently in Israel for. Department of State, they're an easy target to throw darts at sometimes, but they really do do great for the American people.
But there's always these gaps that like so flat of you're an American in Israel right you're a 75 year old pastor that wants to go and walk where Jesus walked you know Israel is just such a beautiful place where you know there's
2.5 billion or 2.5 billion Christians in the world. There's 1.9 billion Muslims in the world. There's almost 20 million Jews in this world. And guess where they're one place that they think to be the holies of holies are? That's right in Israel. It is the place for the largest religions in the world to all celebrate. So
You're a pastor and you wanna go to the Jordan River because that's where Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist. You are a Muslim and you wanna go to the dome. You want to, the dome on the rock. You want to go to the mosque that they're calling. The reason for attacking Israel was because they thought it was gonna be destroyed, which it never will be. It's protected by Israel. Whatever your motivation was, you get there, you're an American and then this attack happens.
American cancels your flight, United cancels your flight. Every single airline cancels your flight. And the only airline left is the Israeli airline. You're wherever you are in Israel, maybe you're on the Jordan River, maybe you're up north in the Haifa, maybe you're like way down south in a lot, because you wanted to see the border of Egypt and this, you know, you're the Gulf of Akaba. It's like the most beautiful water that connects to the Red Sea. And you're an American tourist.
You don't have the wherewithal of knowing how to travel in the middle of a war. And now you're getting a thing from Department of State that says you have to go to Tel Aviv and connect with us and fill out this crisis intake form for us to be able to help you get out.
from where you are as an American citizen to where you need to be to get out of this country where 1,400 people are being raped, murdered, burnt alive, tortured. There's people being kidnapped and hostages being taken. And like, you're just an American. That's now stuck here. And every single airline has canceled your flight no matter how many times you've booked it. Maybe if we had this guy had booked five new flights and every single one of those flights had been charged on his credit card and
So then his credit card is frozen because he's just booked five next day flights at, you know, $3,000, $4,000 a piece. And, you know, he's on heart medication, maybe he's on insulin, whatever the individual. We helped almost 400 people get out of Israel.
But the Department of State, as amazing as there are, there's these little gaps that somebody has to go and help them with that's comfortable moving in the middle of a war. And that's really where several allies comes in is because we go and fill that gap. Like, how do I find this guy in this hotel that is too scared to leave, doesn't know how to get a bus, doesn't know how to get a taxi, doesn't know how to
His tourist information or his tourist guide is like, hey bro, I'm out, I'm gonna go down because Michael Blitz just got murdered. I'm gonna go help my family that, you know, they're missing three of their family members. Of course they're gonna go and help. But now that guy is stuck, that his family stuck, that pastor stuck. So we had to go and find those people and move them to a place where they could get out of the country safely. And it was freaking hard. The volume of that is like wild.
We took this rad two pastors. They're from California. And we had a similar situation. They'd booked multiple flights. They had an old pastor with them. They didn't have the maneuverability of being able to pivot with whatever existing flights. Ultimately, we had to drive them from where they were to Haifa.
to put them on a private, chartered airplane to fly them from Hifat to Cyprus, where they could then fly from there to Athens and get home. Like we had privately sourced an airplane to fly them out of a place, to get them to a place that they could fly out of, because all other aircraft had been grounded. So that two pastors could make it back to their churches in California. You know, they're literally stuck. So, yeah.
Crazy. How do you fucking manage your mind dealing with so many horrific and traumatic experiences over and over and over again? Just over a few years. So my dad just asked me, but he asked me like way more pointed. He's like, are you okay? Are you okay, son? Yeah, I would be asking that too. If I was your dad.
Do you remember Mr. Rogers? Yeah, sure. Yeah. He was asked a real similar question. And it was during the civil rights protests where blacks are being beaten in the street, you know, and hippies are being condemned as like the next plague and pestilence that society could ever see. And like, what would you do with all of this evil happening around us?
Mr. Rogers says, just look to the helpers. There's always people trying to help. I'm thinking about the ground team that I had with me over there. I can't even say their names because they're amazing people, but we had JP, RT, Primo.
the most brilliant from the expeditionary, special operations, backgrounds, but the most selfless, hardworking, they're giants of humans. I look at them just in awe of how capable they are and how selfless they are at the same time. These are the most lethal humans on the planet, and they could kill you a thousand different ways, but they're putting their lives on the line to try to rescue a pastor that can't book a flight.
Israel would do anything to have one of these guys go with them and advise them about how to get into this shit show that has Gaza into the tunnels that are controlled by Hamas and what are we going to do with Hezbollah in the northern border? How are we going to stop the Taliban that just got permission to cross through Iraq? What are we going to do with al-Qaeda that just bribed a whole bunch more people to fly them into every single neighboring country? Like but instead they're just trying to rescue people. So to ask you a question,
When I'm down at the border, I just look to my left or my right and I see a freaking private. That's three o'clock in the morning. He's sitting there with night vision and he's like, that kid just fell in the water.
Mother fuckers off, he's off, he's running down into the darkness to jump in the water to try and save a kid. Like if you cannot find inspiration from that, and if you cannot find something that's gonna nurture and feed your soul and inspire you to do something good for the people around you, and look at the guys that I had with me in Israel, like I can't even, the group of people that I had with me in Ukraine, like I'm just astounded by these, and you know a whole bunch of them too, that are just amazing people.
I've been so blessed to have, you know, a short but successful fighting career, a successful military career that then went into a period of like successful business. And now I'm in a position where like, man, I really want to do good. And there's all these things that I know or people are really hurting in or they can't do. And I have experienced in a background and connections that I'm able to solve these problems.
I did so much evil. I dealt so much death. And if I didn't try to do good now, like, I think I would really have a problem. But I'm good because I'm doing good. There's something about that doing good for other people. Like when you're hurting, I don't think there's anything more important that you could do than do something for somebody else. And that man, that just empowers you and it gives you purpose. And if I'm ever going to think about
Should I get up and work out today? Well, I can think about August 24th, 2021, when I had two kids in my arms and a woman behind me, and we're having to run through Kabul to try to make it to Ichkaia while we're being chased by the Taliban. Cool. I want to be in good shape, bro. You know?
Find people doing good. You know, as Mr. Rogers said, look to the people that are helping. And man, I'm good. Just keep your eyes on the good. Yeah.
That's amazing that you're able to manage your mind through all this because I know a lot of lesser men would be destroyed by one of these experiences and for you to have four of them concurrent over three years. That is a lot. It's a lot to handle. I would really like maybe in the next election cycle us to look at the past three years and maybe I'm not ready for another four years of this, you know.
I don't think our organization could take it. I think the role of decks of people that want to do good, I can only ask somebody to go into a war and torn country to try to save Americans so many times.
Well, unfortunately, we've also demonized first responders and people that are in the military and demonize people that are police officers and border officers. And this short-sighted, ridiculous approach for political purposes is just so fucking infuriating. And it's so weird that more people don't understand that and more people don't see it that way.
The propaganda machine is a powerful thing right now, and I don't know how to fight it. They have successfully demonized law enforcement, border patrol. They take a photo of a guy riding on a horse, and a horse is the best thing you can possibly have on the border. If you've been to the Mexican border, it's magic. Do you hunt off horse back ever? No. Oh, dude, it's the best.
Even like Southwest Texas, if you're going elk hunting or you're going to go bear hunting, you're going to go cat hunting and you think you're going to get up through in and around big bend on anything but a horse, you're crazy. You better be on a horse. There's one photo of a guy with his reins in his hand. They're like, this Border Patrol guy is whipping. That's not what's happening. He was using his horse to block people, to prevent them from putting their lives in danger by getting into this flowing river.
That's what he was doing. And if they make it into the interior, the number of people that die from exposure, once they make it across into the United States, but then they try to cross, let's say they came through Big Bend. Do you know how big that place is?
It's fucking crazy huge. We're hunting in and around there, and we all come across a couple of immigrants, and they are, one, we find dead bodies all the time on ranches of immigrants that just die from exposures. He's a friend of mine, one, he has a ranch that sells Texas. All the time. All the time. Really recently. Yeah. And these men and women on the border are trying to protect them. Similarly, in the propaganda vein, this pro-hammas
I just, it's, you know, we were texting before we came on here, like how fast things pivot, um, the rational understanding of a problem and how perverted it is from truth. Don't know how to fight this. This is, this is a unique problem.
It's very unique and it's very strange. It's very strange to see massive protests on the streets that are yelling out in support of the people that did that on October 7th. And there was a professor recently that said he was elated when that happened. And he was just suspended, which is crazy, that it's only that.
The fact that there's hope people that are so fucking detached from reality and they have this very strange leftist Marxist philosophy that is so untenable with the reality of the world and yet they're teaching kids this.
And then they're talking about this openly, openly in public forums, openly in social media, openly in protests, it's fucking strange. It's so strange that people understand. It's so dangerous. And for young people that admire those people or that are being taught by those people and don't know any better when that person's in a position of power and influence because they're discussing these things in classrooms or discussing these things on social media,
I just don't understand it. I'm so confused. I never thought things would deteriorate this rapidly. I'm disappointed, but I'm not confused when you know the powers and the money that is being spent to try to destabilize America.
When you look at our enemies when you're looking at China, when you're looking at Russia, when you're looking at Iran, and the hundreds of millions of dollars they're spending in misinformation and disinformation where they are perpetuating things that we 100% know to be not true, not factual, but they are
very effectively. I mean, it's unnerving Joseph Gobles, the propaganda minister for Hitler. He had a playbook about how to spend truth and how to manipulate masses. How could you take
What is a great, cool culture like the Germans were, post-World War I as they're trying to find their identity and they're trying to bounce back from a horrific war, and then by the mid-30s and late-30s, they're positioning to throw Jews into ghettos and then ultimately gas 6 million of them.
How can that happen so fast? And you very quickly realized that it was an effective propaganda misinformation campaign where they were able to dehumanize and segregate certain aspects or ideas and then attach a name to those things and a face to those things and a people to those things. We saw it here during COVID, the unvaccinated.
And it happened fast. It happened in months. And the same way that police were demonized during the defund law enforcement and BLM movement. Now we know to be a complete hoax, a bunch of liars that manipulated truth and data and what really happened. And are there injustices? Absolutely. Are we a perfect nation? Totally not. Is law enforcement perfect? No, for sure.
But by and large, the vast majority do want to do good. Like it says, protect and serve. And that's what they raise their hand to do. But they're just being destroyed by this misinformation campaign. And Russia and China want it. They want us to be fighting each other. They want pro-Palestinian protests. They want pro-Hamas protests. They want from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. That is a call for genocide.
They're calling for, so the river, the Jordan River, which is on the east side of all of Israel, the sea, the Mediterranean, in between those two things is where Israel lies, 7.4 million Jews. They want that to not exist. They want no Jews to be there. So every time that you hear from the river to the sea, it is a call for genocide or an expulsion of all Jews out of Israel. And that is the call of Hamas.
And guess who's paying for that thing to be seen on Cornell and in Harvard and in every, that's right, the Russia and China. They're being manipulated by a bunch of our enemies as they're trying to destabilize us in a region and here in the United States. And it's a vulnerability of our, that we have because of our freedom. Yeah. Yeah, but man, I love freedom. I love it. I do. That's why I'm here. Yeah. That's why I moved here. I love
The way that freedom would work was that there was an educated, empowered citizen that was individually responsible for themselves and their family. And they were in a position of authority over the government. That's how that document worked, our beautiful Bill of Rights in the Constitution, was because of the power of the people.
And over the past 50, 60 years, our people have become fat, gelatinous, complacent, uneducated, subscribed to propaganda, radicals, aligned with agendas that are not pro America. And in the course of this time, it makes that document
have no teeth. There's nothing behind it, because the government used to be scared of the people, because the people, when we decided to throw some tea in a harbor and the shot hurt around the world, we went after the people that were attacking us and that were
controlling us, and we killed them, and we pushed them off this land. And then we wrote these founding documents that said, the individual is going to maintain the power. The people are going to have the power. But the only way that works is if the people have power, and we've let that go. Bit by bit, diet by diet, day by day, lack of exercising of our God-given rights.
We are now just soft. You know, it's one of the reasons when I was kicking around with you, like, Hey, am I going to do we really want to talk about this? This is tough. Like I have 25 pages of notes here about the Middle East conflict. But ultimately, I'm scared that that can happen here because we are so vulnerable right now as people. And it's the reason that sheepdog response exists. My company is to train the American individual to take their own security, to preserve and protect human life and be able to provide for the family. That's the mission statement.
But right now, I don't know what percentage Americans are capable of doing that. It's a very small number. Very small. Yeah, a frighteningly small. And that is being discussed as if somehow or another that small number is a strength.
that we are in somehow or another a more kind and a more equitable nation, because people are so soft, because people are so. I don't know how you have those two things. How do you have such freedom that allows people to have these protests, that allows people to have these differing perspectives and to speak about it openly and publicly?
but yet still maintain the strength of the union when you have all of these external factors, all of these different countries and different organizations that are working to try to use propaganda and use money to destroy us. Because that's really what's happening. And that's like, that used to be like, if you said, there's people out there that are trying to destroy America. Oh, you're some crazy right wing fucking,
Well, goddammit, how much information do you have to see? How much truth do you have to see that you cannot deny that's a function of interference into the election? Yeah. Boldface lie. They weren't interfering. They're perpetuating that they were interfering, but they weren't interfering. Really, that Trump was being influenced by... But that he was a Russian agent. Yeah. Well, guess who was pushing that story? The Russians and China, because it destabilized our election process. Right.
Your question is, how do you reconcile having such freedoms where somebody can go and say something so detestable, like praising a group of people that went and raped and murdered 1,400 people that currently have 240 hostages? That's what Hamas has. You know, there's 30 to 40,000 Hamas operatives within Gaza. They have a ton of like, how can somebody have so much freedom to say that?
Well, it's if the people are prepared to be able to protect and preserve and provide, then if you're in a position of authority, sovereignty, it's this it's it's a next step past freedom. Sovereignty is what I want for me. It's what I want for every American. It's that they are in control of themselves. An external force comes and says, Tim, I want you to take this experimental thing and give it to your child and inject it into them, please. I say no.
No, I don't need whatever it is you're about to withhold from me because I don't do this thing. I don't need because I can do it myself. That's sovereignty, right? I don't need you to come and try and protect my family because I can protect my family. You know, come and try vest with them because like my family is unattainable to anybody else. They're completely protected.
education. The reason I started these schools is because I do not want anyone else to have influence over the way that my children are going to learn how to be critical thinkers. I want them to be educated, I want to be powerful, I want them to be cognitive, and every single debatable subject to have the socratic mind where they can sit and debate somebody like you with immense knowledge on all these variety of topics, but that man, they're fierce. That's sovereignty.
We have for so long just given away every little bit of it, whether it was post 9-11 or during COVID or after the next active shooter, you know, like in light of what just happened in Maine, you know, they're going to be coming after.
They're going to be looking for more laws to try and control more of the second minimum and limit the freedoms that we have. So we know that, but we have to maintain this essence that is being American, which is the sovereignty, the individual responsibility that I am in charge of me. And what's infuriating to me about these mass shootings, and Matt Walsh did a piece about this recently where he discussed the prevalence of psychoactive drugs, the prevalence of psychiatric medications,
among school shooters, among mass shooters, that it is fucking off the charts. And they try to hide that, they try to hide that data by using gang violence.
as mass shootings. And they use like, there's no data to support that all that is like, no, no, no, that's not true at all. There's a giant difference between gang violence mass shootings, which occur all the time, which are also something that no one's trying to fix. And then the actual people that strap themselves up and go into places where people are unarmed and just slaughter people.
All most all of them are on something. They're almost all of them. They're on SSRIs. Almost all of them are on some sort of anti-exciting medication. Almost all of them are on something. And that we don't address that. It's not even talked about, that it's like fucking Voldemort.
I'm not talking about Voldemort. Yeah. Whatever it is. You're not supposed to say the name. I mean, it's like, it's very strange that this is never discussed on television. You said you can't research it. When you say it's buried, that data, if you were like how many active shooters were on a antidepressant? Yeah.
anything, that all of that data is buried with, well, then it pops up, well, in Chicago, in Southern California, and it's buried in truth. So trying to find the real data of these active shooters in schools, like this guy in Maine, you know, known mental health problems. And he actually tried to buy a suppressor and failed trying to buy the suppressor because he's self-elected. He told them that he just recently got out of a mental institution.
So like kudos to them. I'm part of this group called Double Check that's trying to figure out ways to identify outliers like this where people have information. They wrote their manifesto of like, hey, I'm going to go murder a bunch of people. You know, these, I'm going to go to this black church and kill everybody. A lot of times that information is available that and as I love the Second Amendment, every single person should be able to have a tank and a machine gun, in my opinion.
But when somebody is dealing with mental health problems, they're on a bunch of drugs. They're actively trying to hurt people. You know, like, maybe there's a restraining order. There are multi-time felons. Should that guy be able to go in and buy? Well, clearly that guy right there was stopped from getting a tool to maybe even hurt more people by just
And as a small business owner, it is my choice who I'm going to sell to and who I'm going to choose to sell a product to. And if that product is a thing like ultimate, the individual responsibility as an entrepreneur and a small business owner is like, it is my choice who I who sell this to. And that guy comes in and he says that he's on drugs and he just got a mental health hospital.
Man, you could go buy your suppressor somewhere else. Like that guy in Maine just went through it. So a double check is trying to infuse themselves in a really helpful, helpful way to protect people like me that own a gun store where if that guy walks into my door, I can have real data to point to him. So like, boop, I do a little search. It pops up as like, hey, man, you just wrote that you want to go shoot up a school.
Can we talk about that before I sell you a gun? You know, you said that you hate black people and that you think that they all should die or like that guy in Harvard Square yesterday that was walking around saying that every Jew should have their next slit. There should be no Jew businesses. This is like in Harvard Square. Like if that guy walked into my gun store, I'm going to go to double check and be like,
man, so you said some pretty outrageous things yesterday. I think you need help. Let's go for a run and let's go get you some real help. And what help do they even get? I mean, and also, how much help do they get in getting off of that shit? And is there a way to get off of that shit? If you are legitimately mentally ill and you're on a host of psychiatric medications,
What motivation do they have to even take you off of that shit? I'm not a doctor. They don't have motivation because they don't make money when you're not taking drugs. It's fucking terrifying. You also know the answer to this. So in.
in all of the things I've experienced in the past three years, like post-traumatic stress, any single one of those single days over the course of months upon months would be enough for me to be like, dude, I'm out of here, right? Instead,
definitely not on any drugs. Exercise every single day, cold plunge, hang out with my friends, do grappling, contribute in a meaningful way back to society. I have amazing relationship with my beautiful wife. I have incredible children that I'm so proud of. I'm active. I'm now like playing hockey with my son as a 45 year old dude that just went to a yard cell to buy all the hockey stuff so I can get out there and try to dunk on my eight year old who skates around me making me look like an idiot.
I also got all my lacrosse stuff. I got tap shoes, so I can start doing tap dancing with my four-year-old. These are the things that healthy people do. Sitting on the couch, eating a bunch of shit, not going outside, not having any relationships, not having any community, not finding ways to give back to their community. Of course, you're broken. So how do you get off the drugs? You start doing little tiny little bits, 1% improvement every single day. And ultimately, the sun is brighter.
Your wife is more beautiful. Your kids are just a little bit more rad, you know, and you're able to go do more good for more people. But people don't have this guidance and that's what's crazy. That this, this truth that you're speaking is not common. This is not something that people discuss. And the, if you would talk to a doctor, this is not something they recommend. What they're trying to do is let's find the right medication for you, Tim. Yeah. Let's, let's, let's all do your stuff.
I just got chastised by my doctor, you know, 45, so I was gonna go with the, is my gut and stuff healthy thing that you do at this age. And they're like, we haven't seen you in seven years. Like, I haven't been sick in seven years. Last time I was here, I partially tore my toe off and I needed you to like stitch it back up. Yeah, put my toe back on. So like, what do I need you for?
And they're like, well, you need us now because you have to have a letter for you to be able to go get this procedure. And I was like, well, I just don't want to get gut and like butt hole cancer. So I'd really like to go do these things, you know, but I have to come in and see you for you to like write a thing for me to go see these other people. And okay, I got it. I got it. Stupid. Well, you know, they think they're doing the right thing because this is what their mandate is. And this is what their, you know, their normal regimen is when they discuss things with people.
like you should be seeing us all the time, Tim. No, no, no. Yeah, I don't get it. If you're healthy, what's beat, but be healthy and be healthy, be actually healthy, like work at it. Yeah, that discipline.
It seems so sad and I pity the easy solution person where like I can take a pill and I'll feel better or I can take a pill and I'll be less fat or like I'll be sold on this idea that this media company is selling me that if I do this thing, I'm gonna sleep better or like my dick's gonna work better with this thing. I'll be happier.
Yeah, like the other, the truth is that, I mean, you got to work. Yes, you got to work. You got to get up early. You have to have calloused hands. You know, like, man, I love my wife and I love being able to
have an amazing relationship with her. And that would not be possible if I didn't work at it. You know, I like being a freak physical thing in my middle 40s. That would not be possible if I didn't work at it. Right. I like being a successful business person. That would not be possible. And I mean, like work, not like, man, I
shot a selfie and like punched in for the day, you know, like actual work. Yeah, like get up earlier than me. Most people don't even have a frame of reference. There's so many people out there that don't know anybody who actually works, like works at it the way you do or the way many people do that we know. The flying back from Israel, every one of those people in the kibbutz is all around Gaza and we're up and down them. Like they're
no fat on their faces, you know, like striations on their shoulders. Like these are just cops or now reserve recently activated people. I go in and tell Aviv, I'm not joking the entire time I was there. I saw two fat people, the whole entire time. And I was like,
I had to, I was compelled, I was like, hey, are you guys low? And they turn around and they're both American. Of course. Both instances of like the only fat people. And then I take a flight from Tel Aviv directly into New York. I land in New York and I'm heading towards immigration and passport control. And I'm just like inundated with the like overweight, dangerously obese Americans.
And I went, the stark contrast of a place that has been trying to fight for their existence since May of 1948, when every single neighboring country invaded them and tried to kill them, to like the six day war, to then Yankampur War, and then to first Intifada, to the second Intifada, and now what just happened on October 7th, where they're just like, under the stress of being capable and individually responsible for their safety, clearly they failed on October 7th, to then coming into New York, and I was like, bro.
We are a mess. We are a mess. We're a mess and our supermarkets are filled with poison. It's wild. It's like there's something like 40% of the American diet is processed foods. It's insane. It's insane. Everything from every angle is weakening us. Everything. I want everybody to get chickens. I have chickens.
Of course you do. Chickens are a gateway to freedom. They're a great way to free food. Yeah, that they are. You let them rum around, they make you eggs. Just eat bugs and really scratch on the ground. I always tell people that are vegans too. Get chickens. It's literally karma free food. You don't want to eat eggs because you don't believe in factory farming. Fantastic. Do you have enough room to have chickens? Well then you'll get real protein, animal protein that's karma free. They lay those eggs every day. They're never going to become a chick.
And they're so happy to be living with you. My four-year-old walks around with two chickens. You'll have the day. And she's sitting there in her four-wheeler, and there's a chicken sitting next to her. The happy is like, my cat's cruising around. My cats love the chickens too, because if you have chickens, there's a good chance you're going to have mice. And if you have mice, then you're going to have a really happy cat.
And, you know, like my, I've built her Malawa and, you know, she comes in and she just like sits there like she's the king of the roost, you know, and then one of the chickens comes over and reminds her that she's nothing, that the chickens are actually in charge of the yard. But the amount of eggs that they come, but, you know, when you get that first time that you crack an egg from one of your chickens and you're like, that looks different.
And then you eat it and you're like, do that taste different. A lot different. Like way different. It's like that dark, deep orange. Like not yellow, not pale, like orange. And it's like you can taste the nutrient, micronutrient riches of it. And then you're like, well, if that is that different, how much different is all the other things that I eat?
And you start going down this wild journey, this rabbit trail of freedom. And how much different am I? Yeah. You know, when you look at the difference between grain fed, fatty beef and an elk steak, you're like, okay, look at the difference in the meat. Look at the difference in the quality of the meat, the dark rich nutrient dense protein rich meat.
Like, what's the difference? Well, they're not eating any bullshit. They're eating literally what they've eaten for hundreds of thousands of years. And they have to work every day to find more of it. The unhealthy bits, and this is a cruel thing about nature, is the unhealthy animal dies.
And the existing animals are the ones that we ultimately get to go and find that and we are very careful about which ones we're killing and what season we're killing them in to make sure that we are encouraging the same healthy herd.
We get this most delicious, surviving, fantastic nutrient-dense meat you can find on the planet. And we have this provider. We launched a learned-to-hunt school. We teach you how to land navigate. We teach you the fundamentals of marksmanship. We teach you all basic, good,
laws around hunting, how to put in out of state for a lottery for. This is a part of your school system. We teach it out of school at Sheepdog Response. It's called the provider course at Sheepdog Response. We also teach it to the kids.
So, like, the mentorship program at Apigee, those guys get to come to provider courses. They learn how to skin an animal. They learn how to follow a blood trail. They learn how to field dress an animal. They learn the final culminating exercise. You'll love this. So, after two days of just like inundated information, like, here's...
the healthy and natural way to kill an animal. This is shot placement. This is, you know, you have to know how to shoot first. So we teach fundamentals and marksmanship, non-standard shooting positions. Like how many times you get to lay down in the prone off bipods and shoot something.
Not often in hunting. Can I shoot off poles? Can I shoot off a tree kneeling, standing off hand? If I get a designated zone in Arizona or New Mexico, can I navigate from where I can park to where I have to go hunt without illegally trespassing on anybody's property? The barrier between I want to hunt and I can hunt
is hard for some people. And as we're sitting here talking about how amazing it is to hunt, and it is the most amazing thing that I want everybody to do, that barrier of entry seems hard for some people. It's very steep. But it shouldn't be. And that's the idea. I want this for everybody.
In the final day, we give you your lot. We give you your animal. You have to navigate to that place. You then have to PID, like, positively identify the animal that you're supposed to shoot. And then you go to take a shot off it. Once you take your shot off of it, we photograph how you're going to take that shot, standing, kneeling, sticks. We measure the distance. We lay as you're at 210 meters. And then we go duplicate that on an actual shooting range on the same target.
And it's so fun to see the full buck fever of somebody freaking out when they don't even have a round on the chamber. They're just looking at a 3D target out at Reveley Peak Ranch and burn it. It is such a joy to introduce every class we have 40 people and every class is sold out.
And the end result at the end of three days are like these people that are just like, they feel like they're going to explode with this excitement about what it means because they now know that they can go and hunt. Do you have a mind management program to deal with the moment of actually shooting?
Yeah. Yeah. You're familiar with Joel Turner's work, the shot IQ system. Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. Yeah. For sure. Changed everything for me and so many other people, including like world class archers and people that have been hunting for decades that have dealt with target panic and don't understand what's actually going on between open loop and closed loop systems that you could actually manage that with discipline and actually having a shot routine that you must go through every time you execute a shot changes everything.
All right, I mean, hold on a second, Joe. Are you telling me that discipline process and repetition solve a problem? Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah, I think so. Mind blown. I mean, that's for me. Yeah. It does for everybody. Yeah. What is the military's approach to literally every single thing? Right. That. Right. What is your approach to not being fat? It's that. Right. What is your approach to like trying to build a real critical thinker that is going to move into society as a contributing member of society? It is that.
And also understanding the factors that are in play, instead of just being like a prisoner of the moment and being captive by your emotions and, you know, these human systems that have existed forever, like having an understanding of what's going on, like, why am I freaking out? What is there anything that I can do? How do I learn how to control my breathing? How do I learn how to mitigate stress? How do I learn how to manage my mind in these critical moments?
Yeah, it's um, hunting is one of the very few things that, uh, still sparks that feeling of like elation and excitement and nervousness, but I still fall back to cool. I've disciplined. I've done the work. Um, I have a process that I'm now executing and I've put in the work for me to be able to be successful here. And then it's like success.
And that same discipline process, hard work approach to people externally will look at save our allies in the middle of peak combat in a completely non-permissive environment. And they're like, what the hell are you?
What are you guys doing? And it's an incredible group of disciplined people that have a process that has been perfected over now 20 years at the Global War on Terror, and they are doing the work that needs to be done. But those three things are still prevalent and evident. And everything. And everything difficult in all of life.
Yeah. Yeah. It's, how do you get someone to subscribe to that? I think they have to hear about it first, and that's one of the reasons why I think conversations like this are so important. It's because in everyday life, if you're working in an office, if you're dealing with regular people, you're not going to encounter this. You're not going to encounter these conversations.
and there's gonna be moments that people have where they do panic and freak out and don't understand why. How come I can't keep my shit together when I'm nervous? How come I can't keep my shit together in these critical moments that require me to stay calm and make good choices? What is wrong with me? Am I just a bitch? What is it? No, you just have an undisciplined mind. You have an untrained mind. You have got the reps in. You haven't got the reps in. Everyone needs the reps. Yeah.
As worried as I am about the future, you know, at Apigee and at Sheepdog Response and at Save Our Allies and, you know, first responders action group, like, I'm in all of these different groups where I see these young men and women that are on this train.
And I know I'm not in a cross-section of the United States right now that is really struggling with all of the problems of mental health and obesity and diet. But in this little group that I'm around often, I'm just so encouraged by
the work and the discipline and the subscription to the process. Like last night in my jiu-jitsu school, I had 60 kids on our mat at one time. And I said, hey parents, everybody coming to the classroom really fast, we're gonna have a Q&A session about competition and what this next season looks like. Every parent like stood up, walked in there, they had questions, like they didn't even know, but they didn't know that we're gonna be doing a Q&A. They had pre-prepared questions that they were looking for an opportunity to ask the staff about like, okay, how is coaching gonna be at the next tournament?
And I was like, I love you people. You know, like the parents to the Apigee families? Because we take a totally different approach. We're a whole family approach to education. Like if you subscribe to this idea that you can take your kid and you can drop them off at a place and you're going to get this amazing thing back that you don't have any control about what they're being taught. You are just an idiot and you're a crazy person. Like you send your people to Caesar. You send your people to Rome and you don't think you're going to Roman back?
That's what's going to happen. Our approach is there's a whole family inclusion here. It is not just our responsibility to train and to educate your children. It is our responsibility.
So you are going to work out. You're going to keep a journal of your diet. Here is your prescribed reading list. Here are the books that your kids are going to be reading that you're also going to be reading with them. Like if your kid is reading it, then you better be reading it too. You'd be very appalled at some of the books that are assigned to children in public school to read. And I think if a parent actually picked this book up and it's like, then Johnny took his penis and he brought it and it was a wreck for the first time next to his friend. Like, what? This is for a fourth grader? Right.
Um, so this whole family approach that, you know, this, this truly Socratic, this is not new. This has been around for a long time. And I'm so encouraged to see the activation, the discipline, the process and the hard work from the youngest kindergartener all the way up to like the 60 year old parent that's like doing the work.
It's so bizarre to me that a rejection of teaching like overt sexuality to young kids is somehow another dismissed as anti-gay or anti-LBGTQ. It's so strange because you could never imagine
heterosexual sex being discussed to five-year-olds and six-year-olds. This is how a man chooses to have sexual relationships with women, and this is how a woman chooses to have sexual relationships with men. No, that's never discussed. That's wildly inappropriate. But, wildly inappropriate, but somehow or another it's okay if you're discussing gay sex. It's very strange.
It's not strange. It's wrong. It's dangerous. It's a grooming behavior. If you're trying to broach any sexual topic with a child that is not of age to have sex, that is grooming. That is the definition of grooming. Right, and grooming itself, that term is dismissed as anti-LGBTQ and whatever it is for. Which is wild.
I don't love gay people. I do not. This is the idea about being American, right? Like don't care, bro. Do anything that you want. You talk to my eight year old about anything sexual, hedgerow, homo, anything. It's wildly inappropriate. He's eight. Right. You know? Why are you doing that?
Yeah, there's one reason and it is not for the benefit of the document. The indoctrination, that's right. Yeah. And to say that somehow or another is homophobic, which is so insane. Like how did that become reality that we're dealing with this? Because this is not the case a decade ago, two decades ago. This is very recent in terms of modern society in this country.
It's fucking crazy. It's crazy. And it also, to me, it's so confusing that other people don't recognize that and that people are so, they're so scared of being labeled as homophobic or being labeled as transphobic or anti-LGBTQ that they allow these things to take place under the guise of we're being more inclusive.
It does hurt to be called a bigot, to your racist or your anti LGBTQ. I don't like those things saying it said about me, and I know that they're completely wrong. But they're going to lob that unfounded accusation at me because I'm going to stand on a principle of protecting my children.
And would I rather take, you know, there's a great photo of a dad standing over his children and on his back, he has like all of these darts and the cartoon was, you know, the darts were named, you know, it was Disney propaganda, you know, it was LGBTQ indoctrination, it's racial discrimination, it was 69 project. It was like every single thing that they're attacked with just
relentlessly every single day and the dad just sitting there taking it. And that is our job is to take it. So you can call me any names that you want. But first and foremost, my position is to protect my children and to raise somebody that will be a contributing member of society.
My partner, Matt Boudreau at Apogee, he was in public education. That was his origin. That was his start. The genesis of his journey where we collided was he had went and started the two largest Socratic schools in the United States. Hundreds and hundreds of students going to learn just the Socratic approach. He thought that there was more that needed to be done on the full family approach.
where the dad and the mom and the brothers and the sisters, everybody's on the same journey to become the best versions of themselves. So, Matt and I collide with both of us working at the exact same thing with the same ideas, with the same approaches, with the same love for America, and the end result is dads and moms becoming those things where they will
they will be the stop gap between all of this hate and all of these dangerous ideas. And if you're not doing that, like if parenting's not hard, maybe you're not a good parent.
because parenting is hard. It's complicated. It is. It should. My wife and I last night sat there for an hour and broke down like next school year books that we're reading for an hour on a Tuesday night. We're just sitting there like hammering through
Like were there a lot of other things I'd rather be doing for an hour with my wife for sure, but highs and lows on Sunday. My son had lacrosse practice. It was cold. It was rainy and his whole entire team third graders out there.
shivering and showing grit. My heart was exploding with pride, and I never said you had to stay out there. I was like, you know, hey, practice this day. We get there. The coach was in shorts, and he was just, his fingers were white, his cheeks were like bright red from the cold, but he stood there, and he took it, and he showed grit. And then all of these third graders followed in suit.
And I was just like heart exploding with pride as my son demonstrated like this, this will follow through with this thing that I've committed to do. And it hurt me to watch my son be cold and it hurt me. And this is why parenting is hard. And if it doesn't, and if I didn't care, I don't think there's any greater insult than indifference. And to be indifferent to your kid is just like the worst thing you could be as a human.
Yeah, it's so selfish. It's a crazy way of thinking. But so many people are just so occupied with their own life and they're so busy that they just don't have the time to have conversations with a kid or even think about it. Like, ah, they're going to school at school's job. Anyone busier than you or me? Elon. Okay, fair. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah, maybe, maybe not.
I don't know, we're pretty busy. We're pretty busy. But I think it's a part of life. It's also very rewarding. I mean, to see your kids getting after it, it's very rewarding. My youngest has become a real fitness freak. She's a nut. She's got a Fitbit now. She's 13. She's a savage. She likes to tell me the 28,000 steps today. She gets up at 6 o'clock in the morning and hits the gym before she goes to school.
And then she had a volleyball game. She had a volleyball game. She got up at 6 o'clock in the morning, ran for two miles, then went to the volleyball game, did the volleyball game. They're playing in this tournament. They play these three games, comes back home, hits the gym again. So she's getting three workouts in a day.
And she's showing me her results and all this thing. And then, you know, we're obviously giving her positive feedback because of it. But now she's like super fired up. And she's like, you see the difference in her body, like her abs are showing and her body feels like she's like a fucking little panther. It's crazy.
And it's so rewarding. Not to be, and I don't mean to disparage other families that haven't made it there yet, or haven't subscribed to these ideas of discipline and regiment. But our kids, compared to my son, my daughters, they're just so much better than everybody else.
I always sound terrible, but they do the work. I also think it's a lead by example thing. Children, you can teach them things, but they learn a lot from just watching you. They learn a lot. They learn a lot when they learn what the standards are. When you see someone who's happy and fulfilled and also successful and you're like, what is that person doing?
Like, well, that person's my mom. What is my mom doing? Oh, my mom's a fucking animal. Like, look at her. Jesus, I want to be like her. Like, and that's how kids learn. They learn from that. They learn from seeing things too. They don't just learn from the things you tell them. They learn from watching you. I'm watching you live your own life. And if you're a slob and you come home and just fucking eating sub sandwiches and just drinking whiskey all night and just falling asleep watching sports, like kids are like, this is fucking aimless existence.
This is stupid. Like God, life is meaningless. Yeah, give him purpose. Right. We're such a society void of purpose. Mike Glover wrote a great book prepared and that
In that, one of the big takeaways was it doesn't have to be your purpose, but one of the reasons me as an American, me as a protector, me as a father, me as a husband, it is my job and my responsibility to be prepared to protect my family. And as your children learn viasmosis, like by example, the things that you do, you know,
I have to elbow my son out of a seat so I can sit facing the door. I was like, my man, you knew where to sit. But like, move over. You go sit by your mom right now. And he sees the outliers. Mike would call it a bump in the pattern. I call them outliers where something is off where I sit down in a place.
That person doesn't belong here. Right, what's going on here? Yeah, I'm going to spend a little bit of time and a little cognitive of my ever struggling brain to pay attention with this what person is doing over here because it's my responsibility. Americans better figure this out pretty fast because we are going to have a rough year.
We are woefully unprepared and disillusioned about what the next 13 months are going to look like. Do you think that's going to wake people up? Do you think, I mean, I do not want to say that we need something to happen. But one of the things that did happen, post 9-11,
I remember this overwhelming feeling of patriotism that was prevalent through the entire country. I would drive to work and I'd see American flags on fucking in Los Angeles, which is like one of the most ridiculously out of touch places on earth. And everyone had American flags hanging from their car. It was overwhelming. There was this feeling like we are in this together.
And that there are forces of evil out there in the world and now we understand and now we're united. I hope that we don't need that catalyst. I hope so too. I really do. But. But.
Israel is one of the most secure nations in the world, which is impressive from them fighting for their existence the day that they became a country to the Six-Day War, where every single one of their neighboring countries invaded them, to the Yom Kippur War, where again, led by Egypt, every single one of their neighboring countries invaded them.
to, you know, what just happened where they have one of the most complex security and military and intelligent networks on the planet. And Hamas killed 40, almost Pearl Harbor level numbers, almost 911 level numbers, just in
an indescribably barbaric way. Like this was, this was when people dine in buildings or, you know, getting shot from airplanes. This was like a music festival. Yeah. That babies. Yeah. People are saying it was propaganda. What happened? It was not these things really happened on the ground. And anybody that denies it is saying it's propaganda.
the every if you go to one of these pro pomos protests right now that show me a picture of a baby that got their bed decapitated that didn't really happen or you really eighty because idea of said that eighty percent of all of the victims in within the kibbutzes were tortured before they were murdered eighty percent of all of the victims uh... i i know first-hand saw first-hand was shown
and have, which I will never show the pictures of these things really happening. And if it could happen in the most secure nation that has been invaded by every single one of their neighbors multiple times in history, but we here in America think that the 350 million of us are somehow safe, that the government is somehow going to protect us, that our local police department, like if you picked up the phone right now and you called
For help, 911. How long would it take for somebody to come here and try and help and save you? Especially with the defund the police. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Well, people are figuring that out in Minneapolis. Well, they're figuring it out here. Yeah, they're figuring it out here, too.
And you have a ton of friends that are in law enforcement in this area. The murder detectives, counter gang task forces are pulled off of their murder investigations to work the street because they don't have enough police officers. You know, I mentioned the recruiting crisis.
If we are struggling to meet the demand of basic soldiers, the available population of combat arms that special operations can pick from, that shrinks, right? And then that pool being smaller. So ultimately, by the time you get to the guys that really do the work on the ground, there's nobody left to pick from.
not just strategically in maybe the most vulnerable position in a really long time, but nationally here in the United States, I think that we are more vulnerable than we have ever been. There's nobody coming to save you. There's nobody that's going to come that's going to pick the phone and be like, yeah, I'll be there in three minutes.
They're not coming. It took six to eight hours for any of the military or police to make it to any of those villages that are immediately adjacent from Gaza to come and try and fight Hamas back. They had six hours to do whatever they want to all the women, the children and the Holocaust survivors that were still there. Like these were people that survived Holocaust.
camps, concentration camps of war to still alive, 102 years old. And they're like, Hamas is like, we knew that we're that you were here. We've actually been reconning and I deem every single one of these families that we're going to be going after. And they went after them. And Americans are woefully ill prepared for what's coming.
I think there's another thing that's disturbing to me, but there's a certain amount of cowardice that's involved in, there's certain people that when they see an attack like that happen and they're terrified of it happening to them, they will try to sympathize with the attackers. They would try to sympathize and almost position themselves to be on their side.
That's rampant right now. Anti-Semitism across the United States. Crazy. Crazy. Crazy. It's like people came out of the woodwork. It's like they were hiding in the woods, and then all of a sudden you're seeing it openly.
Maybe I saw one where we should boycott Jewish businesses here in the United States. I was like, maybe just have them put a star on their chest or something or maybe put a gold star on their business. Is that what you're suggesting? Because that is what you're suggesting? Yeah. Have we not learned? Evidently we haven't.
You know, it took six million to being persecuted and killed. I mean, those, those Jews, man, from the Germans to the Egyptians to the Romans, you know, Palestine didn't exist. You could go back 3000 years to King David and then his son, King Solomon, saying that like this is the capital of the Jewish people here in Judah and Israel, Jerusalem. That is 1900, 1700 BC, right?
We have to go to 80, 80, where after Jesus has already come here, now we have the origin of Judaism and them historically, not religious documents, like this is the origin of the Jewish people is here in the specific land with very clear geographic references as to what it is, to then being the origin of the Christian faith with Jesus being there and then being crucified. And then 200 years later,
Muhammad and us learning that the Muslim religion also beginning there the Romans destroy the temple in 80 80 and Then they coined the term Palestine for that area for the 2000 years before that it had just been Israel
Egypt, the Romans, they're now conquered from every imaginable group of people for the next like 1500 years, murdered at every opportunity leading up to the Holocaust. Going to post World War II, 1947, the UN says, Hey, it's cool that Israel has its own nation in the place that has it has always been Israel. May of 1948, independence kicks off and every neighbor comes in to try to kill them.
And now here we are in 2023, and we're still talking about like boycotting Jews. And hey, it's cool if we like slit their throats, don't let them make babies. Let's find from the river to the sea, get rid of the Jews. What the fuck? It's wild. It's fucking wild. I would have never imagined this just five, six years ago. Never imagined. Five, six months ago. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
100,000 people in London, marching, tearing down posters. I've asked this time and time again, there's posters of the kids that have been kidnapped, and they put them up in New York, they put them up in Brooklyn, they put them in LA, and there are hundreds of videos of people walking down to tear off these hostage photographs. Young people.
Yeah. I want to know why. Why don't you want to see a picture of a nine-year-old girl that was kidnapped and is now a hostage by a terrorist group in Gaza? Why don't you want to see that? Why are you tearing that down? I think that the answer is,
it goes in direct conflict with the thing that they want to believe. And they think that it perpetuates a cycle of violence and that them tearing it down and that is them like protecting the Palestinian poor impoverished people when in fact they're tearing down the victim, the Jew that or the Christian or the Brazilian that was kidnapped that is now being held hostage in Gaza by a terrorist group of people and thugs.
Why are you tearing that down? Well, this is very bizarre, progressive narrative that, you know, look, there's a reality of Gaza, that Gaza is essentially like an open-air prison. That is a reality. Those people are fucked. They're stuck there. And it doesn't seem to be like a really good solution on the table. You know, and I don't know what can be done, especially now, to change that. That's true.
That is true. And there is a hostility, a deep hostility between the Israelis and the Palestinians on both sides. It's palpable. I've seen many videos of atrocities being committed by both sides, which is just a horrible consequence of war and conflict. What do you think I'm Israel? You're the Palestinians in Gaza.
Everyone, everyone of the people in Gaza laid down the arms and stopped attacking. What would I Israel do to you? It's a good question. Nothing. They've tried it five different times. They literally like, stop it. Israel has never, not one time in history.
initiated any conflict. Every single one of those things that you're pointing to is a retaliatory attack by a terrorist organization. But if that's, if that was switched, where I Israel, you Hamas in Gaza, I take all of my arms and all of my protection and I laid them down. What would, what would Hamas do?
they'd kill every single one of us. That's what they do. That's what they're sworn to do. That's their motto and the origin of their existence all the way back to the Grand Muftee, traveling to Hitler to ask, how do we solve the Jewish problem?
Like you want to follow from the Muslim brother, the Hamas to the Muslim Brotherhood, all the way back to the Grand Mufti, the Mujahideen. And you see the origins of like one thing, which is how do I solve the Jewish problem is to eradicate and kill them. That is what Hamas came from, not the Palestinians, not those poor people stuck in Gaza.
But in that problem, if all of Hamas just went away, we would have peace. If they laid down their arms and they stopped murdering innocent civilians and raping women and killing babies, you would have peace. If the other side laid down their arms, they would all be murdered, all seven and a half million of them, until they just were walking in blood through the Jordan River. How do you solve this problem?
The radicals have to be eliminated. The terrorists have to go away. That is not, I'm not, I'm not conflating the Palestinians and the terrorists. Those are separate things. But if there's two and a half million people that are living in Gaza that are allowing 30,000 terrorists to run them,
At some point, the olive branch cannot be extended from Israel when 30,000 people are using that region to launch attacks into their sovereign nation. We were talking about the propaganda that exists in America. What about the propaganda that exists in Palestine? What is their thought? Oh, it's crazy. Did you see the hospital that got destroyed?
Well, it didn't really, right? No, it did not really. No, but the New York Times said it did. Yes, it did. The New York Times said it was an incongruous woman, which is insane, and they didn't retract it. They said it was horrible. You take Horsti Warmer and Israel destroyed a hospital. Yeah. So evil.
It's so crazy that they printed that in the New York Times. That's the paper of record. That's the most important newspaper that we have in America in terms of if we wanted an objective source of information. Most people say, what's the best? Look, I used to deliver the New York Times when I was a kid.
And I did it, it wasn't even that profitable. I delivered the Boston Globe as my main newspaper that I delivered, and then I delivered the Boston Herald as well, and then I got a New York Times route, and I was proud of that, because the New York Times was the real newspaper that intelligent people read.
And it was a different plastic wrapper. You got a clear wrapper for the herald and a clear wrapper for the globe. But for the New York Times, I got a blue wrapper. And I was one of the people that got to deliver the New York Times. And I remember thinking as a 20-year-old kid, like, oh boy, I'm delivering the New York Times. And when I would drop the paper off at these people's houses, that's a fucking smart house. These people are reading the New York Times in Austin.
And I remember thinking that. I was proud of that that I delivered the best newspaper in the world. Really? I literally wasn't that much money and it was a crazy route because I'd have to go like a mile in between houses. Whereas like with the Boston Globe, I'd have like five, six houses on one street that I would drop off papers to. And the New York Times, I'd have this fucking crazy route. I'd have to go all over the place to get rid of a hundred newspapers. Yeah. And then now in 2023, they're circulating a terrorist propaganda
Yeah. And with no... With no repercussions. No repercussions. And what do they make? Did they even print a retraction? Do they say we fucked up? You watch a missile get launched from Gaza until one third of all missiles that are launched from Gaza, land in Gaza.
Do you think about how sad that is? 28% of missiles launched from Hamas land on top of the Palestinian people. Jesus Christ. And obviously they have no ability to direct any military target when these crappy missiles are being launched into Israel. They're just like populated area.
popular. I went and did a Fox News stand up in the city directly north of Gaza that is the most rocketed city in all of Israel. And in like the one day that we were there, we had like six rocket attack sirens go off. It's the weirdest thing that the Palestinians are allowing
Hamas to literally kill them and pillage everything about their existence from them. Hamas is so rich and so 70 million dollars from Iran. You know, every, every humanitarian ship that comes into the port or right now that is being brought up through the Rafa gate via Egypt into the south portion of Gaza, the moment that lands there that is taken control of by Hamas.
They then build underground infrastructure in the tunnels, and they build military infrastructure, and then they turn as whatever they can into rockets, and the humanitarian aid that is supposed to be distributed to the people they have control of. They have to go. Not the Palestinians.
They have been so screwed by Hamas, but the propaganda that they encounter in Palestine has to be insane. Yeah, they believe that they're on the good side.
How do they sift through fact from fiction when what they're being told and being fed is being fed to them by Hamas?
How do they get access to other information? And how do they ever organize and discuss this openly without fear of losing their lives and being tortured? The only time that you had consistent water and power going into Gaza was when Israel was controlling Gaza. Now that Hamas is running it, it is nightmarish in there.
but they're still in charge. And they're being protected. And here in the United States, being like called freedom fighters, like they are barbaric murderers and absolute terrorists that want nothing besides the genocide of my, when I saw like the LGBTQ flags of LGBTQ stands with the, with Hamas. Yeah. Mine is blown.
Isn't it hilarious that you've ever seen that meme that it says queers for Palestine and Palestine for queers like yeah they wouldn't live they wouldn't know they're like no hours they'd be pushed off a rooftop or burnt alive
Immediately, but they don't but the narrative in this country is not that it's which is so strange That like there's sort of overwhelming evidence about the approach that they have to gay people Yeah, but yet somehow or another There's this I stand with Palestine thing that makes you a progressive go to Tel Aviv as a as a gay person
Walk around with your gay pride shirt, with your husband or wife of the same sex. Nobody will bat an eye at you. Nobody cares. Everybody's like, what up? You know, like normal. Man, if she and her wife tried to walk down the road in Gaza, oh, oh man.
And it is so this tender box that is that region with the West Bank, with the Gom Heights and the North, with Hezbollah, which is being supported by Iran, they're all positioning on the border, you know, with Iraq allowing people from Afghanistan, the Taliban to move through. Taliban being funded by us, 40 million dollars right now is what we're continually giving them, the Taliban. Why do we do that? I don't know.
I don't know. What's the cynical side of you? We want to recognize them as a legitimate government and we are paying for them to start a democratic process of, that is the, I think would be the tagline of what we want them to do. What it is actually doing is the same thing that happens when we release $6 billion to Iran.
in exchange for hostages. They then take that $6 billion. No, they're not using that exact money to fund terrorism with Hezbollah or Hamas. But I have one bank account that has an additional $6 billion in it. And now I'm able to spend $6 billion over here to finance other things that are going to destabilize the nation that I have sworn to eradicate Israel and America.
So, like, cool. Oh, happily. Give some more money, too. They've been planning this for four years. The kids, like the Iranian Special Operations guys, training and preparing Hamas, advising on how to execute this, how do they get the intelligence to know what direction they need to fly with their paragliders, which areas, which you don't think they had scouts in all the kabootses around Gaza to identify which houses they're going to be targeting.
How did they find all that stuff out? The people that Israel was allowing out of Gaza to work as agricultural workers, they were going into these areas and these kibbutzis, into these houses, into these villages, doing recon for Hamas. So then Hamas launched their attack on October 7th. They had been funded. There's this amazing book called The New Rules of War.
And the new rules of war lines out all of the ways that America is not prepared to fight a war by non-state actors, by corporations, by cartels, by violent extremist organizations using proxy methods. So like we are at war with Iran. Period. They are funding every single group that just attacked our American base in Syria that attacked our American base in Iraq that attacked and killed a bunch of Americans in Israel. That was funded by Iran and trained by Iran.
But we don't have the appetite to try and fight the war that they're fighting because they're doing it in just such a, we want that World War II, like we want Patton standing on top of a tank coming across being like, there's Wommel, go and get him. Like that war is never going to happen again. And we're just not ready to fight this new type of war under these new rules of war.
which is fighting non-state actors, fighting proxy wars, fighting corporations, funded by governments, fighting cartels that are getting subsidized by governments, all to destabilize the greatest nation to ever exist in the history of mankind, us. You were saying that you think we're more vulnerable now than we've ever been before and you're legitimately worried that the United States might fall. I am more worried now
because of the lack of preparedness of the individual. Americans are fatter than they've ever been. They are, even though there's more guns now owned, there are fewer, fewer per capita owned by individuals with people that train regularly with them, people that are able to provide and protect for their families. All the metrics of measurements of like, that family's gonna be okay.
That is the smallest that it's ever been. And our government right now is more vulnerable internationally than we've ever been. Our military is, even though I'm so proud to be a service member, I'm, you know, when the Army tells me to do something, I 100% have no say whatsoever. I got to go and do it. And I'm really proud to be part of the most elite fighting force on the planet. I think we are the weakest that we've ever been for a variety of reasons.
When you put all of these things together and you just take a step back and like the aggregate, like the accumulation of all of these different factors make me be like, holy crap, we are vulnerable.
The only way to combat that is the individual to start taking their own security and preparedness seriously. Get less fat. Get more healthy. Go and train. Go and buy a gun. Start exercising your freedoms. Learn what it means to volunteer in your school. You can't start your own school. You can't homeschool.
Well, get involved in your kid's school. Like you got to do something because if we continue down the path that we're in, we're done for like soon. Not, not, not in like a generation like right now. I'm scared. I'm a drink water. Jesus Christ. There's a lot of people freaking out with this right now. But that's good.
There's a 20 year special forces do that in the past three years has been in four gigantic international crisis in three years. I've spent my entire adult life doing this. I run companies that train people to do this, like the sole mission statement of the large company and every single subsidiary under them ultimately goes down to preparing people to provide for their families, to protect themselves and to expand freedom.
But I was just gonna, the wave top, the my elevator pitch would be like, that's all we do. And I'm scared.
But for us not to hit the Titanic, it only took a couple of degrees change, right? And, uh, for that Titanic, not to hit that iceberg. It would, it would have just been like early enough us weren't turning it just slightly. I don't think we're past a point where that can still be changed, where we can still avoid this, this diet, that what would be the catalyst of destruction for this nation.
but the individual has to step up. Well, the individual, but also we have to have changes in the approach that the government has. Oh yeah. Lobbyists have to go away. These gigantic packs have to go away. We have to have age limits and term limits. Like these things don't happen. Our republic is in a bad place. How cool would it be if we just had
age and term limits within Congress. It'd be pretty nice at this point. I mean, when you see Mitch McConnell just fucking windows 98 out. I mean, Diane Feinstein voted the day before she died. Yeah. Did you see her, her aide that was like hitting her being like, Hey, you're supposed to vote. Yay on this. Hey, vote. Yay. Yeah. And she said, that should be illegal. Yeah. I mean, how is it not? How is it not? Yeah.
That's like she's not voting anymore. You're voting for her. You're dictating how she should vote. She's one of the most empowered people in the world. That aid was making that decision off of the lobbyists that were telling her what to do. All the special interests that were saying, on these issues, this is how you're going to vote. And then that aid went and effectively voted for a congresswoman. See, that is insane.
Yeah, I love this meme of George Washington with like the four tube nods. He's like me and my homies would already be slaying right now. It's true. You know, they would. Yeah.
But people don't even recognize what a danger it is. It got so little outrage in the mainstream. So many people were just so ignorant to what was going on. It's almost like there's too much to pay attention to when things like this happen. People are so overwhelmed by, that's also the thing about the news cycle of today. You are being bombarded constantly with things to worry about.
And then when there's nothing to worry about, then they hit you with climate change. When there's nothing to worry about, then they hit you with something else. There's like a constant barrage of things to occupy your attention. And meanwhile, decisions are being made that slowly erode everything this country is supposed to be founded for.
are the greatest nation to exist in the history of mankind. And in the cycle of dynasties of empires, we're at the right limit of the average one of those. And you know, Rome didn't die in a day. It was a slow decay of the things that made them special.
we're still the greatest ever. And it's not. It's not. And I will be positive and I will be hopeful that how do we fix this? Like, what do you think, Joe? Like, what are the things that an individual can do in a day? It seems so insurmountable, right? Like, oh, Tim, I can't fix Congress. Like, I don't get to pick the next president. I'm only in charge of me. Okay. Be in charge of you. What does that look like? Right. We need a polar shift in the understanding of the importance of that.
And I don't think you're getting that from many places. And I think really the only way you're getting that from individuals like you speaking about it, people talking about it online, people that aren't captured by these massive institutions and corporations that do have a very specific narrative that they're discussing always and constantly.
that you're not getting these kind of conversations. They don't exist in the mainstream news. They don't exist anywhere else other than independent media. And that's been so strange. And one of the reasons why independent media has become so huge is because people are confused. It's like, why am I not being told
what's really going on in some sort of an objective sense. Why am I not being informed of all the variety of things that are playing against the things that make this country great? Why is the concept of freedom being downplayed as some sort of a far-right perspective, which is so strange? So strange. Fitness is far right.
Fitness is far right. Eating healthy is false. Eating is racist. Eating healthy is racist. It's so crazy. It's so crazy that they've managed to marginalize almost every positive thing and put it into a category of either racist or discriminatory or
homophobic or whatever the fuck it is. There's a fascinating, not a study, example of China combating information wise. So like TikTok, the advertisements that are being fed to, let's say a 14 year old boy, right? He's seen like soft porn, he's seen like scantily clad girls, he's seen like drug vape things. And in America, that is the constant ad that he's been fed.
and go and party, be a TikTok star, be a YouTube influencer. These are the things that's been said, fed non-stop. That exact same age person in China, on a China app, they're talking about becoming a strong contributing member of the Chinese society, being good in school, being a good athlete. It's a scientific accomplishment. Night day and be.
A. America, they're fed things that destroy the individual. B. In China, they're being fed things that make the individual stronger and a better person in that society. But the only way that you can get that
You have to give the government control and the government has to be doing it for the will to be they have to be doing it for the overall good of the nation That's what their perspective is when they're trying to make stronger Chinese citizens They're doing it because of a very specific government mandate has trying to strengthen China They want their men to be more manly they want all these things to take place that will strengthen their nation. Yeah
And what do they want from Americans? They want us to be weaker. They want us to be weaker. They want us to be fatter. They want us to be more mentally unwell.
Yeah, but I don't think people realize that that's what it is. I think when people are trying to be a TikTok influencer, what are they saying? What are they saying? Well, I don't want to work in a fucking insurance company. Like what other job can I be, oh, can I just like make wild wacky videos of me eating and I can make more money than I would ever, if I got a college degree, like yeah, you can. Yeah, you want to be the richest person on the planet right now? In Austin, be in construction, be in electrician.
be a plumber. Do you know how much those people are charging right now here? Yeah. Well, this is a boom town. They're worth like $200,000 average income of a good electrician here in Austin right now.
You go to two years of trade school to become an electrician, right? You spend a year and a half to as an apprentice. And then you go and you start working for a couple of years for a guy that owns a shop. You go and start your own. Your electrician business is going to be worth $10 million in three years here in Austin. But it takes a little bit of work.
I'll give that to you. But you're not going to do the work to be worth $10 million in three, four years from now to be to do something that like, that's another wild thing is like some of these jobs have been demonized. You know, it's not cool to be a plumber. It's not cool to be an electrician. It's not cool to be a roofer. I'll tell you what, it's pretty cool to have a bad
truck and be able to go hunt whenever you want be able to hang out with your kids and make it every single weekend to their lacrosse or hockey games because you have successful businesses and you just did a little bit of work for a few years to build that thing. It's very bizarre that we've somehow or another demonized blue collar work and put white collar work on a pedestal whereas like