#163 Gary Brecka - Biohacking Secrets to Longevity, Aging Myths and the Science of Nutrition
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January 27, 2025
TLDR: Gary Brecka, a former mortality modeling expert, shifted his focus to extending life spans by optimizing biomarkers of longevity and researching human biology. He now shares his insights through The Ultimate Human platform and podcast, and conducts a FREE 3-Day Morning Routine Challenge.

In episode #163 of the podcast, host Shawn Ryan welcomes Gary Breka, a biohacking expert with a rich background in mortality modeling from the insurance industry. Gary's quest to understand and extend human lifespans revolves around optimizing biomarkers and unraveling the science of nutrition.
Background of Gary Brecka
- Career Transition: Gary initially worked as a mortality model expert, predicting lifespans of individuals with remarkable precision. This experience fueled his passion for blood chemistry and biomarkers related to longevity.
- Ultimate Human Mission: Gary founded The Ultimate Human platform, focusing on sharing wellness knowledge through challenges and empowering people to achieve peak performance and vitality.
Key Discussion Points
1. Understanding Nutrition and Longevity
- Myth Busting: Gary emphasizes that the secret to longevity is not tied to strict diets (e.g., vegan, keto) but rather whole foods.
- Blue Zones: He refers to research on Blue Zones, areas where people live exceptionally long lives, highlighting that they share a common thread of diets based on whole foods.
- For example, in Sardinia, high carbohydrate intake doesn't hinder longevity when the food is made from scratch.
2. Biohacking for Performance
- Hydrogen Water: Gary discusses the benefits of utilizing hydrogen in our water, which aids in reducing inflammation and enhancing performance. He suggests that hydrogen can replace the effect of corticosteroids for pain management.
- Sleep and Movement: Key recommendations from Gary include prioritizing quality sleep and regular movement. He argues that sedentary lifestyles significantly contribute to health issues.
3. The Role of Modern Medicine
- Critique of Pharmaceutical Dependency: Gary criticizes the prevalent reliance on pharmaceuticals, urging a return to natural solutions and lifestyle changes that can mitigate health issues.
- Vaccine Debate: The episode touches on vaccinations, discussing the potential consequences and stressing the need for discussions around raw nutrients that support immune function.
4. Practical Applications for Longevity
Recommendations:
- Hydration: Investing in hydrogen water can significantly boost health.
- Diet Changes: Embrace whole, non-processed foods and consider nutrient deficiencies (e.g., vitamin D)
- Exercise: Incorporate weight training and mobility exercises into your routine.
5. Personal Health Takeaways from Blood Work
- Interpreting Blood Levels: Gary talks about the importance of understanding one’s health through blood and hormone levels, pointing towards maintaining a healthy balance of vitamins and minerals.
- Liver Health: Discusses how certain supplements like milk thistle and glutathione can promote liver health, linking liver function to overall well-being.
Conclusion
Gary Breka’s insights inspire listeners to reconsider their approaches to health and longevity through informed dietary choices and biohacking practices. His unique perspective on modern medicine and nutrition provides actionable steps for achieving better health outcomes, emphasizing the power of natural elements in enhancing physical well-being and life expectancy.
This episode serves as a reminder of the intrinsic potential each person holds to optimize their health through simple lifestyle adjustments and an understanding of their body’s needs.
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Gary Brucka, it's an honor to have you here, man. Dude, it's such an honor to be here. I can't even tell you, man. Thank you. This room is incredible. Like I said, it's full of knives and guns and bullets, but the stories on the wall in here, it's like the energy in here is so good. You feel safe, like you feel protected. Thank you. You got an awesome spot, man. Well, I appreciate that. There's a lot of history in here from a lot of our guests and from my prior careers.
But hey, I had a great time at your podcast too. I mean, I was joking downstairs. I've never been talked into getting in another man's bathtub. So, you know, we became, we became best friends that day, brother. You're like, you got to get in here. It's hydrogenated water. And then I did it. And I'm like, I'm sitting in there. I'm like, I can't believe I got in this fucking guy's bathtub. And, and sure as shit, like you told me, hey, if you have any aches, pain, it's all going to go away. And I was like, yeah, right.
And I'll be damned, man. Like I didn't notice it right away. I noticed it the next morning. Yeah, that's how it usually hurts the most. And no shoulder pain, no back pain, no knee pain. And I was like,
Okay, there's something to this. And I took pictures of all the little devices that hydrogenate the water and started googling around and got in touch with one of the companies and really started researching it.
I'm going to get all that stuff. There's a website called hydrogenstudies.com. You can go there for free. It's all the consolidated research on hydrogen gas using hydrogen to increase circulation, reduce inflammation, improve cognitive function. Just go there and read it. There's animal and human studies on there. You can select out the animal studies and read the human clinical trials.
I think it's the best kept secret in all of modern medicine, I mean, for athletic performance. I mean, you talk to like John Jones or Michael Chandler or some of these other athletes that I've worked with, simple changes to their regimen, like having them bathe in hydrogen.
water, having them drink hydrogen water, and the reduction in pain level and the improvement in performance because of the reduction in inflammation. But most people that are in the kind of pain that you were in, knees, hips, shoulders, rotator, cough, low back, they're on corticosteroids, you know, any inflammatory, it's like a methotrexate or dexamethasone or prednisone.
called natural dose packs, or they're taking pain medication. When you can actually take a warm bath and hydrogen gas and get the same effect, and it not only can last longer, it can potentially permanently reverse those conditions. No kidding. Oh yeah, I mean, after...
How did you... I don't want to get too far on the weeds because we're just starting out. I know we'll get more into this, but I don't want to forget this question. How the hell did you even... Who comes up with? To me, this is like...
You asked like more questions. Me, this is like psychedelics. Who picked up the toad and rubbed it and ate the venom for smoke to the venom? Who came up with that? How did you find hydrogen? My undergraduate degrees are in biology and my postgraduate degrees are in human biology. I've always been crazy fascinated with the human body.
The more I studied the human body, the more it's actually strengthened my faith, the more I believe that this was created by a divine being and it wasn't by accident. Like, you'll never convince me that two bacteria banged a billion years ago in a mud puddle and a lizard grew out and eventually we became.
Homo sapiens, and here we are, right? And it doesn't even make sense evolutionarily because there's huge gaps in the fossil record, but we can talk about that later. But I've been fascinated by the human body, and I just believe so much more in what God gave us than what man makes us.
And we become a society that's just become so dependent on chemicals and synthetics, on pharmaceuticals. But when you really start to look at the research, which I'm fascinated by, like my heroes are the scientists and the PhDs and the MDs and the researchers that are doing real work studying real human beings to try to extend life and improve humanity.
And what you find in most of this research is that we're just getting back to the basics, right? Sunlight, grounding, breath work, whole foods. So hydrogens, Ben, I mean, you're probably 60% hydrogen by weight. I mean, you think of the percentage of water you are.
And it's harmless to human beings, but this gas has any inflammatory process properties. It feeds a whole class of bacteria in our gut. It's improved circulation and improves the absorption of our supplements, our nutrients.
So, you know, simple things like switching to drinking hydrogen water, like using a hydrogen water bottle or hydrogen tablets, bathing in hydrogen water, you know, water that's been circulated through a machine that just adds hydrogen gas to the water, game changers, psoriasis, eczema, and don't take my word for it. You know, Google around, go to hydrogenstudies.com, read the research for yourself.
So this is one of those things I studied after I really kind of got into the biohacking space because I was in the mortality space for decades, predicting death. And as I've really started to go down the rabbit hole of what is truly extending life,
Like, how do we not just add years to our life? How do we add life to our years? Like, how do we not grow old and have to deal with all the consequences of aging? Well, the way you grow old and don't deal with the consequences of aging is you give the body the raw material, it needs to do its job. And if you look at the broad research on this, like look at blue zones, for example, where you have these centenarians, people that live way beyond age 100, if you look at all of these blue zone areas of the world, you won't find continuity between diets.
So the dogmatic dieting is not the answer. So it's not vegan, vegetarian, pescatarian, carnivore, keto, paleo, raw food. It's not these hyper dogmatic diets. It's whole food diets. You go to Sardinia and you see that it's one of the highest carbohydrate consumption in the world.
Well, how are they eating so many carbohydrates and live in 217 years old? Well, they make their bread from scratch. They make their pasta from scratch. These are all whole foods. You go to the Mediterranean and that flies in the face of modern medical recommendations. High amounts of fat, fatty fish, with lots of oils, cheese,
So, and then you go to, you know, the French are screwing the whole thing up because they're smoking cigarettes and drinking wine and eating cheese. And some of those areas are, they're, they're living forever. You go to Singapore. It's one of the highest meat consumptions in the world, one of the longest life expectancies in the world. So what's the commonality? The commonality is a whole food diet.
In the United States, 67% of our diet is highly processed foods, which are not even foods. I have an intellectual curiosity like a child. I'm absolutely fascinated by the human body. I think that we are just barely beginning to understand what God's created.
And I believe more in its ability to heal itself. I believe more in its ability to heal the environment around it than I do in the chemical industrial complex. And so we should be studying things like that, hydration, nutrition, hydrogen water, hydrogen gas. These are things that are readily available for us. So when I asked you that day, if you had any eggs or panes and you're like,
Do you have some time? You're like, everything hurts. I go, you're going to wake up tomorrow morning and nothing's going to hurt. I could see the doubt in your face. You're right. You're right. But we'll get into that here in a bit. Everybody starts off with an introduction here.
Gary Breca, you're a human biologist, biohacker, and longevity expert with over two decades of experience in optimizing human performance and wellness. Previously, you were a mortality modeling expert in the insurance industry using medical records and demographic data from 360 million lives to predict lifespans with remarkable precision.
Determine the transition from predicting lifespans to extending them, you embarked on a quest to optimize biomarkers and unlock the secrets to a longer, healthier life. Since this transition, you founded the ultimate human media platform and podcast where you share insight with celebrities, athletes, and scientists.
You're a consultant to high-profile individuals, including CEOs, professional athletes, and celebrities such as Dana White, John Jones, and Stephen A. Smith, working with a team of experts to optimize mind, body, and spirit through science-backed methods. You're also a husband, a father, and probably most important of all, a man of faith and a Christian. Amen.
and I know I'm missing a ton of other information. Those are great. But one thing we do is we have a Patreon account there.
There are top supporters. Many of them have been with us since the beginning. This whole thing started off in my attic is a hobby. They have enabled me to grow this into what it is today. One of the things I offer them is
I give them insight into who's coming on the podcast and offer them the opportunity to ask each and every guest a question. Cool. So they knew that I was coming on. See, there was a word specifically for me. This is specifically for you. So this is from Jesse. What do you believe is the most underestimated factor in optimizing longevity and cognitive performance and how can individuals practically
integrate this into their daily routines. So the most underutilized, overlooked area in all of human optimization, as we talked about a few minutes ago, is sleep. If you're not sleeping, you're not healing, you're not repairing, you're not eliminating waste, you're not toxifying. And so if I was to just pick one thing, to optimize in my life, to improve my cognitive performance, it would be sleep.
And then followed by a second, third and fourth, and I'll just lay those out for Jesse. The second would be movement. Again, going back to the discussion we had about the blue zones. One of the things that was common between all of the different blue zones, which was not diet, was mobility until later in life.
So sitting is the new smoking. Sedentary lifestyle is now the leading cause of all cause mortality. Wow. The leading cause. It is the leading cause of all cause mortality, meaning the greatest impact on the total number of deaths, what's called a modifiable risk factor, is sedentary lifestyle. I have a saying that aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort.
And most of us are aggressively pursuing comfort. We are accelerating the rate at which we age. We have to stop thinking about stress as being negative, right? Stress can be very good for us. If you don't actually load your bones, they will not strengthen. I don't care how much calcium you take. If you don't actually tear a muscle, it won't grow. If you don't challenge the immune system, it will weaken.
The worst thing that came out of the pandemic, second, maybe only to the vaccine itself, and we can talk about that, but was residential, quarantining, masking, and social distancing? You took human beings out of contact with other human beings. So what happens when that occurs? The immune system weakens. The body's very efficient.
If you stop using something, it will forget about it. If you put a cast on your left arm, even if it's healthy, and you take it off in six weeks and you compare your left arm to your right arm, it will not only have lost muscle mass, but you have lost actual, you will have lost a lot of tissue, right? Not just fat, muscle, tendon, ligament, bone, we'll start to de-mineralize, because if you don't use it, you will lose it. And so when we stop challenging the immune system, the immune system weakened,
And then we woke up from the pandemic, and everybody went back to, quote, unquote, normal society. And now you start hearing about things like, well, we're on our eighth version of Omnicon. We're a monkeypox. Well, what the hell is monkeypox? Where did that come from? Well, it's always been around. It's just been so weak that it never manifested itself. But you globally weaken the immune system. And now you've got a weakened society without a strong immune system. And you're seeing the consequences of that.
You know, sleep first and mobility second. And I don't care how deconditioned you are. You know, you don't have to go out and do like, you know, hits cardio and super Spartan races. You just need to move. And three, 15 minute walks a day. Apply stress to your body. I mean, the simple fact is, if you want to live a long time, lift heavy weight.
No kid, no question. I mean, lift heavy weight, lift heavy weight, challenge your body, tear your muscles, I stress to the body, lift things that are heavy. No, not so heavy that you hurt yourself. I don't believe in loading the spine, but if you can walk, that's excellent for you. It's probably the most underrated exercise in the world.
But if you only had time to do cardiovascular training or weight training, I would do weight training, right? Really? Even if it's just body weight exercises, no question, because weight training beats cardiovascular training hands down. Muscle is not only our metabolic currency, but muscle is, in my opinion, and probably Gabriel Lyon would share this with me too, is the largest organ in the body. Like what does muscle do that we don't know that it does? We know it holds our skeleton up and it moves our bones around.
It makes us look good if we're physically fit. But the truth is that muscle is a sponge for glucose. It absorbs glucose. It uses the sugar in our bloodstream. You want to lower your blood sugar, move your muscles. It also holds our skeletal system erect. The greatest risk to longevity in the elderly is frailty.
That's why grip strength is actually directly tied to longevity. When you look no question, the elderly, what happens is falls are enormous risk to the elderly and to the frail. Why do people start falling in older ages? Is it because they're losing their balance or they're disoriented?
Or they trip more often? No. You probably had six incidences in the last month where you would have fallen if you didn't have the grip strength to stop yourself, right? But you can hold on to your door handle. You can grab the railing of a stair. You can brace yourself on the wall. And you just moved on about your day. When you're frail and you can't stop the momentum of a fall, then you end up with a catastrophic injury. And then
without loading our spine, sorry, without loading our skeletal system, it begins to weaken. How many of us know, we used to call it the triad of death in the mortality space when I was doing mortality research. Someone would break their hip and within 36 months they were dead.
Why would a hip fracture lead to early death? Because the majority of hip fractures in the elderly are not elderly people falling and breaking their hip. The majority of hip fractures in the elderly are the hip breaking and then they fall. And there's a difference between the fracture causing the fall.
and the fall causing the fracture. So when your skeletal system is so weak that it can not only support its own weight, grandma standing at the kitchen sink doing dishes and her femoral head cracks and she falls and they go, oh my gosh, grandma fell and broke her hip. No, she didn't, her hip broke and then she fell.
And so we have pursued comfort so aggressively that we become so frail that we can't even essentially protect ourselves. So those would be my big recommendations would be start a process. I mean, Sardinia, for example, in the Blue Zones in Sardinia, their life expectancy was directly related to the grade of the slope they walked up. The steeper the slope, the longer the life expectancy.
No kidding. He got 93, 97-year-old men and women walking up 30-plus-degree slopes, 10 blocks to go to church, four blocks over to the market, four blocks back home. There's no such thing as elevators there. There's no such thing as assisted care living facilities, assisted care living. His mom and dad boob back in with the kids until they pass away. And what does that do? It gives mom and dad a sense of purpose.
even if there were only purposes to go out to the garden and get vegetables for that night's dinner, right? Or they make, you know, dad's 105 years old and he's still making belts for the community. They have a purpose. They have actually some meaning. And so sense of purpose, mobility to interlighter in life and whole foods. That's what you get from the Blue Zones. We should adopt those philosophies here, not be dogmatic about dieting, right? But
eat whole foods and move our ass. We regulate everything, our air temperature, our lighting, our temperature in our car, the temperature in our office, the temperature in our home. If you want to make your house the surface of the sun at one o'clock in the morning, you can just turn all the lights on. It's very unnatural. We've gotten so far out of just the natural circadian rhythm of life. So when Jessica was asking about
You know, my tips for living a long life and improving your cognitive function would absolutely be mobility, whole foods, focus on sleep. Interesting. So no more escalators.
Dude, I have a thing, man. My team, like, when we travel, like, you get on an escalator, you better have a ship ton of baggage that you can't carry up the steps, right? I can't stand it, dude. I won't take them just because everybody gets on and they just stand there and the phone comes out and they look at it. Yeah, it's holding mobile walkway. They fly, you know. But, uh, but, uh, wow. Did they just get on it stand? Yeah. Go on the escalator stand. Literally everybody. You stand? Everybody does. Yeah. We did like intermittent standing. It was good. Intermittent standing.
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Well, Gary, I wanna get into your work with the insurance companies and kind of what that was. What kind of insurance was it? Was it life insurance? Life insurance and annuities. You wouldn't believe the number of financial services instruments that are actually based on mortality. People don't realize how many tens of billions of dollars a year of financial services products are sold and put in force based on when people are gonna die.
I mean, life insurance being the obvious, reverse mortgages, annuities. So an annuity, for example, is you write a check to the insurance company. They guarantee you an income stream for life. What do you think they use to guarantee how long they're going to pay you? Your mortality. When a life insurance company puts 10 million or 25 million or 50 million or $1 million worth of risk on your life, only one thing matters.
How many more months do you have left on Earth? So insurance companies don't care where you are on an actual whereill curve, right? Everybody listening to this podcast is on one. If you're a 34-year-old male, you have a life expectancy of X. If you're a 51-year-old female, you have a life expectancy of Y. You go apply for a jumbo life insurance policy, which is the area that I worked in, above $10 million in face value. If you ask the insurance company to put $10 million or $20 million or $30 million, $50 million of risk on your life,
You better believe that there's somebody in a back room that not putting you on an actuarial curve. They're looking at your specific mortality, telling the insurance company, how many more months does this person have left on earth? And I get a lot of flack for this because people say, well, if you could predict, we were talking about this earlier, if you could pick mortality to the month, you would have won a Nobel Prize or UB Jesus, but I promise you I'm not Jesus and I never won a Nobel Prize, but it is some of the most accurate science in the world.
If you want to know how accurate insurance companies aren't predicting death, just look at what happened during the 2008-2009 financial services crisis. We had 364 banks fail. Not one life insurance company failed. Shit. Not one.
They're some of the most solvent institutions in the world, and yet they will take tens of millions of dollars worth of risk on one variable. How many more months do you have left on earth? If you die early, they lose. So they're very accurate at predicting life expectancy. What do they use to predict life expectancy? I'll tell you the three things they don't use, which is modern medicine hates this. They don't use randomized clinical trials.
They don't take big pharma's trial that says that LDL cholesterol leads to cardiovascular disease, which leads to early death. And so you need to be on this pharmaceutical. They use big data, hundreds of millions of lives. And they know the day, the date, the time, the location, and the cause of death.
for 370 plus million lives. And so when you know day-to-day time, location, and cause of death, you can triangulate that back into the record. And you can say, okay, what are the sequence of events that lead to early death? So if I got 10 years of medical records on you and 10 years of demographic data, we could tell the insurance company how long you had to live to the month. And based on these life expectancies,
institutions would take hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars in risk, and they were very, very accurate. And so when you look at that data, the epiphany that I had was, I sort of woke up one day and was like, what am I doing?
You know, I'm reading medical records for a living. I've read hundreds, if not thousands of times, more medical records than a practicing physician, because they're practicing medicine. They're not reading records. I just read records. I'm not a physician for the record. I'm a licensed practice medicine. I'm a human biologist. But I just read medical records for a living, thousands and thousands and thousands of medical records. And we would put these into a model, and we would use it to predict the onset of death.
And what became glaringly apparent was that the reason why the majority of people are not living longer, healthier, happier, more fulfilling lives are because of something called modifiable risk factors. So had it not been against the law for me to pick up the phone and contact the patient or contact the client,
I could have on average added seven years to those people's lives. No kidding. No question. Because we have lost faith in humanity and mankind and the body's ability to heal itself and the expression of deficiency in the body. So for example, if you were to pull the blood of all of your listeners, you'd find that there's hundreds of vitamins in their bloodstream. Their body can only make one.
When God made us, he made us with the ability to make one vitamin, single vitamin. So how important do you think this vitamin is to human health? If it's the only one that we make on our own, this vitamin is called vitamin D3, called the calcifral. We make it from sunlight and cholesterol. You don't need to eat, you don't need to drink, you don't need to do anything. You'd expose your skin to sunlight and have cholesterol in your bloodstream to make vitamin D3.
So 50% of the world's population is clinically deficient in this nutrient. 85% of the African-American and Latino populations, dark or complex populations, clinically deficient in this nutrient. So what happens when you're missing the most important, in my opinion, the most important single raw material in the human body?
Well, vitamin D3 deficiency was the second leading cause of morbidity in COVID. Vitamin D3 deficiency is highly linked to brittle bone disease, osteopenia, osteoporosis, autoimmune conditions, also compromised immune systems. And so here's a nutrient that we make on our own. It's very easy to solve that with, by the way.
And deficiency in this nutrient has all of these expressions of these different diseases. So your listeners might not be aware that the number one killer of human beings in the world is cardiovascular disease. The number two killer of human beings in the world is cancer.
The number three killer of human beings in the world is modern medicine. It's medical error. Number three? The number three killer of human beings. The third leading cause of death is medical error. If you want to look up the 2016 study, it was done by Harvard University, just Google 2016, Harvard University study on medical error. It was repeated by Johns Hopkins, I think, in 2019, and it got worse, so they published the Harvard study.
So, what does this mean? It means that medical error is the third leading cause of death. And now, when you realize medical error is the third leading cause of death, it's like, wow, that's kind of shocking, until you realize that it's the third leading cause of death in the industry designed to prevent death. Like, if you translated that to any other industry, it'd be laughable, right? I mean, if you sold home security systems, but you were the third leading cause of home invasion,
You'd probably be out of business right now. I mean, if you were a roofer, but you were the third leading cause of roof collapse, it'd be laughable if we applied that to any other industry. But this is where we go to get our advice on how to be healthy, optimally healthy, when we should be going there for catastrophic medicine. We're very good at heart attacks, hemorrhages, gunshot wounds, night wounds, broken arms. We're very, very good at crisis medicine.
what we're not good at is keeping people healthy. And so just to take this one step further. So you have this nutrient vitamin D3.
which we get from sunlight and cholesterol. We've been totally taught to fear the sun, right? The truth is, most of us are not getting enough sun. It's not we're getting too much sun. We're not getting enough sun. We've been taught to just absolutely shield ourselves from the sun. And what's interesting, if you actually overlay the incidence of skin cancer with the parabolic rise in the use of sunscreens, these are superimposable.
All right, since 2018, 23 brands of sunscreen have been pulled from the market for directly causing skin cancer. And yet we've been taught to feel the sun. And so we don't get sunlight, our D3 drops. We've developed sayings around this like, don't go outside in the wintertime, you'll catch a cold.
Okay, there's no such thing as catching a cold. First of all, that's a fallacy. Going outside in the wintertime is substantially safer than going outside in the summertime, because there's a lot more pathogens and warm weather than are in cold weather. There's not bacteria lying around the surface of a 15-degree handrail waiting to infect you. The reason why we associate cold with getting sick is because when it's cold, we layer up. When we layer up, we get less sun. When we get less sun, our D3 drops. When our D3 drops, our immune system's compromised.
Wow. It's just the opposite, it's the antithetical way that we've been taught to tell.
How is this? Is this through marketing? Is that how we both? I mean, you think about it. Yeah, absolutely. It's through marketing. A lot of this is fear-based marketing. I mean, I don't want to get cancer. So I'm going to put biz phenols and phylates and all kinds of things on my skin to stop the sun from reaching my skin. But you got to realize your skin is not a barrier. It's a gateway.
So if you put it on your skin, you should be prepared to eat it. I wouldn't put anything on your skin that you wouldn't eat. And so when you think about the amount of disruption that comes from chemicals just being on the skin, entering the bloodstream, it freaks all kinds of havoc. But what I saw and when I was at the insurance agent, when I was in the mortality space, was in the record, you would see this clinical deficiency in vitamin D3, long-term deficiencies in vitamin D3, and you could see it in the blood.
Eventually, these people will present with rheumatoid arthritis like symptoms. So what happens when you have a clinical deficiency in vitamin D3 for a prolonged period of time? Well, your immune system is compromised first of all. The second thing that happens is you start to develop rheumatoid arthritis like symptoms. The soles of your feet are sore and ache when you get out of bed in the morning to walk to the bathroom and take your first pee.
You wake up in the morning, you feel like you had a really hard workout the night before when you have it. Your knees, your hips, your shoulders, and your low back start to ache constantly. Eventually, it's hard to even make a really tight fist. Well, if you go to the wrong primary care physician, you describe those symptoms, they're going to tell you that you have rheumatoid arthritis. Do you know how many thousands of times I saw diagnoses?
of chronic condition like rheumatoid arthritis with no testing, no RA factors, no blood work, no sed rates. They would just say, you know what Sean based on what you're telling me, you've got rheumatoid arthritis. But don't worry, I'm going to put you on a corticosteroid. And then a corticosteroid, not steroid like muscles, a steroid for any inflammation like methetrexate or prednisone or methoprenasone. So now they put you on a steroid.
The sad thing is for a period of time it works. Pain goes away, right? But steroids, first they're any inflammatory, but then they eat your joint like a termite. So it was so predictable that we knew that six years and one day after you started taking corticosteroids, you were gonna have a joint replacement. And as soon as you had a joint replacement, you were gonna reduce your ability to be mobile. As your mobility reduced, I could bring in all the diseases that exacerbate with reduced mobility.
So now you had a vitamin D3 deficiency, got diagnosed with a disease you didn't have, put on a medication that wasn't required. Six years later, forced a surgery that was unnecessary. That surgery reduced your mobility. As your mobility dropped, all the diseases came from your future to your present. You succumbed to a disease you never would have had.
because of the condition that you did not have, because of medication that wasn't required, because of the simple nutrient deficiency. Holy shit, so it's a snowball effect. It's a snowball effect. But had I been able to pick up the phone, I get goosebumps even, just telling you the stories.
Um, because I think about it a lot. Um, you know, had I been able to just pick up the phone and call these people and say, Hey, listen, I'm not a doctor. Stop taking the Metro trucks. Hey, take 5,000. I use a vitamin D three with 80 micrograms and K two way, three months. Um, you know, then, then I could have a Dimashive impact on these people's lives. And so at some point, I just, I just abruptly resigned from that industry and
I went home and told my girlfriend at the time, who's now my wife. I said, hey, I'm going to quit my job today, first of all. I thought I threw that at you. And I want to start a wellness clinic. I want to start a functional medicine clinic. She's like, you're not even a doctor. I was like, I'll find a doctor. And I did. Dr. Campbell more if you're listening.
in Naples, Florida. He was one of the longest practicing anesthesiologists in Naples, Florida. And thank God for him, because he took a bet on me.
If you don't mind, I'd like to divulge a little bit more into that because we don't have to. I don't want to. But when I went on your podcast, you kind of told me the story a little bit more in depth. And I just want to say it's very commendable and very noble of you how you left the insurance company. And it sounded like it came down to
a single patient, or maybe not a patient, but one of the insurance customers. And so could you go into that a little bit more in depth? Yeah. It's a tough one. But I was working on a case on a woman that was getting, she had a large life insurance policy. She was actually selling.
And she was transferring care between cardiologists. She was in the Midwest, and she was transferring to her winter home in Miami. And there's something called the Medical Information Bureau, and it's meant to catch like people that are pain medication surfing, narcotic surfing, or contraindications between meds.
And the physician in Miami had put a script into the record. There was a contraindication, meaning it was going to cause a high chance of causing a thrombolytic event, like a blood clot, stroke and embolism.
And so I saw what she was taking. I saw was waiting for her. And so I went into human resources at the time and said,
Hey, I'm contacting this lady. We were not allowed to have any contact with the client, the applicant, the treating physician. For the right reason, again, I'm not licensed to practice medicine, so having me call up and try to make an opinion on their medical care isn't right.
They were very not only disinterested in having to contact that patient, I got threatened with prosecution. And so I knew at some point that this lady was going to get on a plane, go to her.
She was going to pick up that script and she was going to have a thrombolytic event. So she was going to either have an embolism, blood clot, stroke, some kind of clotting event. And just the callousness with which I was told not to contact the patient and that I would be potentially prosecuted if I did.
That was the final straw for me, and that's really what forced my resignation. And I think about that lady a lot.
I still to this day don't know what happened. I don't know if the physician caught it. But I also think about how many years I gave to that industry. And I was just so myopic. I was very selfish. I was just concerned about trying to be wealthy. And I was doing very well in that industry. So I had a lot of accolades and things. But I was doing nothing in service for humanity. I had real knowledge on how to help people live healthier, happier, longer.
you know, more fulfilling lives. And I was just watching these train wrecks happen. It was like sitting behind a thick glass wall and just watching blind people walk into traffic. And when you read a certain number of medical records, you see these patterns start to emerge and you're like, you could just start the record and you just knew exactly where the record was going to end.
Like, oh, here comes the joint replacement. Oh, here comes. They're on the beta blocker. There comes the blood thinner. And the next thing to follow is the anti-depressant because of the cholesterol medication. And now they're on an SSRI. And there comes the suicidal ideations. There comes the therapy. Like you could just map out the consequences.
in the medical record and say, gosh, this person had a little bit of elevated level of LDL cholesterol. And then they got put on a stat and started to drive the cholesterol down. Then the brain fog and the short-term recall and the cognitive function starts to decline. And then the depression starts to creep in. And now they're on an SSRI. And as they become less mobile,
This caused the other blood to go up, so then they're on a blood thinner, and the pressure starts to rise, and then they're on a beta blocker, an asinhibitor, a calcium channel blocker, and the next thing you know, it's just this massive chemical soup.
All right, just trying to regulate all of these processes in the body, trying to regulate blood pressure over here and mood over here and blood viscosity over here and pain over here and cholesterol over here. And nobody's ever really studied the consequences of putting all of this into the same biome. We study things in isolation and medicine very often. You know, randomized clinical trials or isolated trials where we're only looking at one medication for one outcome in a control group, but we're actually not.
studying human beings or their cells in the environment that they exist, right? These cells exist in communities. You can't take cell out of the body, put it in a petri dish, look how it behaves in a lab, and then assume when you put that cell back into the body that it's going to behave the same way. Nothing is further from the truth. And this is why we run in these 20-year cycles where we do a randomized clinical trial, drug gets approved, we push the drug on the market, then 10 years later we realize we made a really grave mistake.
We got hundreds of thousands of people dying from this drug. We got hundreds of thousands of people now addicted to this drug. And now they can't get the drugs. And now they're on the street. Like they say that opiates as a rich man's addiction and heroin's a poor man's addiction. And it's very true. A lot of people didn't, they didn't wake up one day and decide they were going to be an addict. They woke up one day and wanted to feel normal.
And in the search for normalcy, they developed an addiction. And now they're running from a low. They're not running towards a high. And so I saw these cycles and I was like, this shit is all wrong. I mean, if we could, if I could have just picked up the phone and called half of these people and said,
You need to stop taking this, in my opinion, stop taking the core and go, get off the stat. Because we use big data. So there was a lot of popularity of marginally increased levels, for example, of LDL cholesterol.
which has been vilified, in my opinion, wrongfully. And if you had high levels of LDL cholesterol, you automatically had this crazy high risk for cardiovascular disease. So we would smash the cholesterol down in these really low numbers. We put you on all kinds of cholesterol mitigating drugs. And what we would see
Not infrequently, in nearly every case, is you would downstream, you would see the consequences of not having this compound in the body. Cholesterol, by the way, is made by the liver. 85% of the cholesterol in your blood is manufactured by the liver. It doesn't come from diet. Only 15% of the cholesterol in your blood comes from diet.
And most people don't realize that cholesterol is not a fuel source. It's a construction material. We use it to build every cell wall, every cell membrane. We use it to make hormones. We use it to make vitamin D3. You make colic acid for all from cholesterol. So when you drive this down, the majority of the brain is cholesterol. All of a sudden you start to see cognitive impairment. You see erectile dysfunction. You see hormone dysregulation. Why? Because you make hormones from cholesterol. And yet we're linking it to cardiovascular disease, but there's no clinical evidence.
that it just seems to jump out of the bloodstream and magically stick to the arterial wall or magically pass through the arterial wall. It has to be called to that location. There has to be an inflammatory cycle. There has to be something that initiates its arrival. You know, cholesterol is kind of like the firemen. It shows up when there's a fire. It gets called to the site of inflammation. It didn't start the fire. So the notion that if we had fewer firemen, we'd have less fires. It doesn't make any sense. But that's what
Modern medicine would want you to believe that if we had fewer firemen, we have fewer fires. That's not true. And so we found no correlation between elevated levels of LDL cholesterol and cardiovascular disease or early death. In fact, we found the opposite. We found in most of the centenarians, in fact, all the centenarian death claims that I processed, people living above age 100, without an exception.
career. They had clinically elevated levels of LDL cholesterol at the time of their death, because many of them died in nursing homes and we had blood work on them. So if people that had the highest cholesterol were living the longest, then why were we trying to push this compound down? Well, I mean cholesterol medication is one of the most profitable pharmaceutical compounds that meant until the vaccine came along, one of the most profitable compounds to ever.
hit modern humanity. I mean, in the 50s and 60s, the cholesterol levels were in the 260s. That was the optimal level of cholesterol. So if you were to ask me, what's the optimal level cholesterol today? 260. But what are lab results say? Well, LDL cholesterol shouldn't be above 99. As soon as it gets above 99, you get to 120. You're on a statin.
And now you're taking away one of the compounds that not only forms the brain, but reduces inflammation, which repairs damage in the body, which makes hormones, which makes cell walls and cell membranes and vitamin D3, and you're getting rid of it. But there's consequences to that.
This is what I mean. It's like we've gotten so far away. We've created an industrial complex that is built on a profit center of disease. Type 2 diabetes in the United States is a $110 billion industry, $110 billion in profit a year from type 2 diabetes. Just imagine
whether or not there's a meeting going on in some boardroom to put that industry out of business, there's not, right? We want people to suffer over a prolonged period of time. We don't want you to die early, we want you to suffer for a prolonged period of time. And if you look at how pharmaceuticals have crept into the hamster wheel of society, and younger and younger and younger and younger ages now, we start on the hamster wheel of pharma. You come out of the womb,
And you have barely even taken your first breath. You got your erythromycin in your eyes and you're being given a hepatitis B vaccine. Well, what's hepatitis B? It's a sexually transmitted virus or it's transmitted through intravenous drug usage. What are the chances that a newborn fetus is going to be having sexual intercourse or using IV drugs? None. What are the incidences of hepatitis B in pre-pubescent teens all the way down to infants zero?
unless the mother had it at birth, which you know, because you can tissue type them. And I can give you hundreds of examples like this, but we have just bathed our cellular biology in a toxic soup. We are on the farm of bandwagon from the time we come out of the womb. I think there's 79 vaccines on the vaccine schedule now, this time in the 50s or as 8.
We have pandemics of autism, pandemics of chronic disease. We spend $4.5 trillion a year on healthcare, and we are the sickest, fattest, most disease-ridden nation on the planet. We lead the world, not only in medical care spending, but we lead the world in six major categories, infant mortality, maternal mortality, the lowest life expectancy at birth of any other civilized nation, the next 60 civilized nations. We lead the world in morbid obesity, type 2 diabetes, and multiple chronic disease in a single biome.
And you spend $4.5 trillion a year on healthcare. 77%. By the way, I will put the links, any of these boats that I say, because we're going to get hammered for this by the media. If I make any one of these statements, I'm going to give you the links. You can put it in the show notes. Thank you. Right from the Department of Defense, 77% of our military age men and women
cannot pass a simple physical exam to enter the military. 77%. That means three quarters of our military age population cannot serve in the military because they are not physically capable of entering military service or causing a basic exam. Wow.
Why is that? I mean, how did we get so deconditioned? Why is it that the majority of teenagers can't do a 30 second dead hand, can't sit on one foot high box jump and stand up, can't run a mile, less than nine minutes, can't do 20 unbroken push ups or 20 unbroken sit ups? It's because we are aggressively pursuing comfort. So I don't know how I got down this tangent. I got on a real soap box there and I apologize.
What's happening now is like, and I think this happens in all areas of society, is like, the pendulum just swings too far, and I think people say, enough, right? I mean, pretty soon, when we don't have any men and women, they're physically capable of entering the military, or when we realize that we have the highest rate of childhood cancer in recorded history, when we realize that for the first time in recorded history, our life expectancy is going backwards, then,
somebody will take a hold of our public policy and begin to implement the kind of simple changes that could save us from this pathway that we're on right now, which includes a lot of things like getting rid of the corruption in our research institutions. I mean, 93% of the FDA is bored as a conflicts of interest with big pharma and big food.
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You know, I mean, I'm going to plug something. OK. And I don't get paid for this. We had a conversation downstairs about about plugs and yeah, I mean, it's all that kind of stuff. And I just want to say, you know, what you told me. I mean, for anybody list and Gary is one of the most authentic people I've ever met. And you stand behind every product and we had a long conversation about that downstairs and
And, you know, I've been talking about this Yuka app. I think I brought it up on your podcast, and I brought it up on Joe's pod, Joe Rogan's podcast, and I actually reached out to try to partner with them, and they don't have the funding to do it. But I don't fucking care, man.
whatever they're doing, you know, is it's helping to educate the population about, you know, hey, this is all the shit that's in your food. All you have to do is download that app. It's free. You scan a barcode and it first thing tells you is.
These are all the additives. This is what it does. And then all the other health stuff is below the additives. But me and my wife redid our entire kitchen on that. And it's just a great way to educate the population. And I know that's your whole
That's what you do. And you do want to help people. And so I want to plug that. But moving on, we were just talking about vaccinations and kids. And this is something that my wife and I go round and round about. We don't know what to do. We don't know who to trust. Ever since COVID, I have zero confidence in anything that the US government tells me.
nothing. In fact, it's so bad, and I know this isn't the right thing to do, but it's almost like I do the opposite. It's like, they say, do this, fuck that, I'm doing this. They're obviously lying, I'm not doing it. Oh, you say that's good for me, it's probably fucking horrible.
But with that being said, it's atrocious. Nobody really knows where to find truth in a variety of topics and genres. But at the forefront of all of this in my family, because I have two little kids,
And we don't know what to do with the vaccinations. And I'll send you a good book on the good vaccine schedule. Are there any good vaccines? Yes. So first of all, we have to take a step back for a second. And the way we, before COVID, the way we defined vaccines was these were designed to prevent the infection and the spread.
which initially we were told it would prevent the infection, then we're like, oh, people are still getting COVID. And then we were told it would prevent the spread. And we're like, oh, well, it's still spreading COVID. And then we said it would reduce the severity of symptoms. And then we actually found out that it didn't. And so we used to make vaccine. So first of all, vaccine used to prevent the infection and prevent the spread. If you get the polio vaccine, you not only don't catch polio, you also don't spread polio.
Right? But so we redefined that to mean that it prevented the severity of symptoms from, you know, from that virus. The other thing we used to do is we used to make vaccines in some cases we still do out of what's called attenuated viruses. You know, virus is not a living thing. It's an envelope, right? Like a nucleocapsid protein. So imagine on an envelope and it has DNA inside of it, okay? But it's not living.
What it needs to do is it needs to go up to a cell, a healthy cell, and sort of attach to that cell and inject its DNA. Like a zombie, I mean, it's pretty medieval. Attaches to the cell, injects its DNA, and sort of takes over the function of that cell. Now that cell is infected.
So what we used to do is we would attenuate the viruses. We would take the DNA out, right? And then we would still put the envelope into your body. And so we would put the polio virus in your body without the DNA. So you couldn't actually catch polio, but your immune system would see that envelope, that nucleocapsoprotein, it would manufacture an antibody. So then we said, somebody
bit pharma came up with the idea that we could do them cheaper and then mass, if we actually made synthetic copies of the DNA. So just a quick basic lesson on cellular biology, if you look at cell, if you go through the wall of a cell and you cross the cytoplasm, you find the nucleus. Inside the nucleus is the DNA. And the DNA is the boss. That's the head honcho, right, the CEO. DNA is running the show.
It has two broad roles. One is replication. It makes an exact copy of itself. But the other one is called transcription. It literally writes messages into the cell. It tells the cell what to do. Just like a CEO is given orders to the board and all of the minions in the company, it's telling everybody what to do. The DNA is doing that through, too. It's sending messages from the nucleus of the cell out into the cell to tell the cell organ else what to do.
Those messages are called mRNA, messenger RNA. When they're organic, they leave the nucleus, they go into the cytoplasm of the cell and they give a command and they essentially dissolve.
What we did was we made a synthetic copy of that message. And I'm not currently up to all of the research, but I know that we have been able to pick up those synthetic copies at least two years after being vaccinated. So what does this mean? It means that the message to make the spike protein, which would normally come from the DNA, has been synthetically copied. And so that message goes to the cell and it says, make the spike protein.
You make a little spike protein. That organelle comes back to its desk. The message is still there. Make the spike protein. It comes back to its desk. Make the spike protein. It comes back to its desk. Make the spike protein. Make the spike protein. Make the spike protein, which spills through the cytoplasm of the cell, out into the serum of the blood, can embed itself into the arterial wall, causes a diffuse myriad of symptoms called diffuse vasculitis, which is essentially a term for or dystonia vasculitis, inflammation of the blood vessel.
It can also cause things like thrombolytic thrombocytopenia, which is abnormal platelet clotting. It shows up generally in the heart first because this is the most active area of the body. So you get myocarditis pericarditis, which was the first symptoms that we saw. But now we're seeing downstream consequences because what happens when you take the surface area of the lining of your blood vessel, most people think that the skin is the largest organ in the body. The skin has the surface area of about half a ton of score.
The inside lining of your blood vessel, of which you have 63,000 miles of blood vessel in your body, has the surface area of about six tennis courts. So it's 12 times the surface area. So what if you get inflammation in all of this surface area? Well, now you've interrupted the most important barrier in the body. You cannot get contents from the blood, nutrients from the blood, into the tissue. You can't get waste from the tissue back into the blood. So this exchange leads to this diffuse myriad of symptoms, which we are not linking.
in my opinion, to the vaccine. Imagine the vaccine being the hub of the wheel, and you have all of these symptoms, you have mood disorders, you have cardiovascular conditions, trigeminal neuralgis, transverse myelitis, you have hormone imbalances, so you have all of these spokes, right, leaving the hub of the wheel. But what's the commonality between them?
And now we have conditions we're calling long COVID, which I think is synonymous with vaccine injury. And so we have this diffuse myriad of downstream consequences where people have mood numbness, weight gain, water retention, joint pain, neurological symptoms, memory loss, impaired focus and concentration, mental conditions, which we're diagnosing as other mental illnesses.
fatigue. And then we throw these blanket diagnosis at them like chronic fatigue syndrome or fibromyalgia. And we're not linking this back to the vaccine, which very often it can be. So the whole point with the vaccines is I
sort of felt like this was like a gene experiment almost like because we were copying the DNA and using a synthetic copy of that to send a message without knowing what the long-term consequences of that were. Now, I'm not qualified to make that statement either for the record because we don't have enough data.
But neither is anyone else. There's no scientist on the planet that can tell you what the long-term consequences of mRNA vaccination is because we just don't have the data. Operation Warp Speed waived the safety trials. It didn't waive the development of the vaccine. It waived the safety trials that normally protect the public from these things being released before we actually have a suitable data set.
And again, I'm not pointing the finger on these. We're in a pandemic. I assume everybody was trying to do the right thing. But this is why we have such a distrust for the elites now because we realize, hey, maybe they don't have our best interests at heart. And this is why I'm saying that I believed more at the time in what God gave us than what man made us. I was like, well, what is the mortality rate?
Well, the survival rate of this is like 99.7%. I mean, they, they, they 100% don't have our best interests, which is one over this with the insurance companies. Yeah. You know, they definitely don't. You know, so I mean, they're the elites. Yeah. I mean, they do not have our best interests. You know, it's, I, I sit on the board of the NFL alumni association athletic guy and there's like 20, 20 or 22,000 members in the NFL alumni association. These are retired NFL athletes. I remember when the, when it,
when the pandemic first started. And I was like, okay, this is a very non-scientific, non-medical opinion. But there are nose tackles, retired nose tackles, that I know that I've met. These guys are six feet six, six foot seven inches tall. They walk around about 320 pounds.
And I also had a five-year-old niece who's 47 pounds. I go, you will never convince me that these two people get the exact same dose of the exact same thing and have the exact same reaction.
This guy looks like he ate a water bottle for lunch. She's 47 pounds. You mean I put the same thing into both of their bodies and they both have the same reaction, same amount, same bodies, same reaction? You'll never convince me of that. That was just my initial filter. I hadn't even dug really into the science and then I just went deep down the rabbit hole of the science of the spike proteins and synthetic messaging.
you know, really didn't like what I see. But again, I'm not a physician, not a theological, not really qualified to take that position. So I didn't vaccinate the family or let any of the people that I loved get anywhere near it. And I started messaging people about, listen, you guys should be taking zinc.
methylated multivitamins, high doses of vitamin D3, getting sunlight, moving your body, hydrating your body, building the defense mechanisms that the body has, because in my opinion, that's our best way to combat what was going on. It turns out that herd immunity actually turned out to be what ended the pandemic. I mean, what would your advice for parents be like me? I mean, here's what I deal with. We go to the pediatrician.
They tell us, you have to get these vaccines or we won't see your kids. Now my kid's not a network. What the fuck am I supposed to do if he gets really sick or he breaks his arm or where am I going? Nobody will take me. That's the shame because the majority of that pediatrician's office revenue is driven by those vaccine visits because they're on the schedule. So they know every kid is going to have a certain number of visits that they can bill for.
and they build those visits for vaccinations, then they shame parents and, you know, through the public school system and through, you know, the pediatrician will shame you into what's not doing the right thing for your kid. When you start to drill into, well, why was my infant given a vaccine against a sexually transmitted disease that's also transmitted by intravenous drug use when the mother didn't have that hepatitis B, you know, they tissue-type my wife.
The viral test of my wife, she didn't have happy. Why did you vaccinate my kid against a non-statistically non-viable risk? A lot of these, the same thing is true with tennis. I mean, if you look at the number of kids or some 45-year-olds, I actually think it's some 72-year-olds that have died from a cut from a rusty nail, it's zero.
To see any statistical validity, you've got to be over 72, 75 years old. We're vaccinating against these. Why are we vaccinating against shingles? Shingles is not something that you catch. It's not a virus that you catch. It's a virus you've always had. It's shingles is mono as a child, coming back as shingles, just like Epstein Barr is not a virus that you catch. Epstein Barr is
I'm sorry, Epstein Barr was mono as a child, coming back as Epstein Barr, shingles his chicken box that you had as a child, coming back as shingles. So I think a lot of times we're led to believe that we catch these viruses, that these viruses happen to us. They don't, they happen within us. If you look at a strand of human DNA, only 60% of an average strand of human DNA is human. 40% of our DNA is viral.
40% of every one of our DNA strands is viral. So what does this mean? It means that every time your DNA unzips and rezips, we silence those viruses. How is it that you could have had mono in eighth grade and I can still tell them when you're 50 years old that you had mono? So I can actually look for the antibodies. I can look for something called IgG antibodies. What are those antibodies doing? And so what happens is that when the DNA unzips and it rezips, those viruses are silenced. What happens is our immune system weakens.
As our immune system weakens, we become more susceptible to these viruses, not happening to us, happening within us. So when our immune system is weak, wow, we get shingles. We didn't catch shingles. We always had it. It was the chicken box virus. We got Epstein-Barr. And how do I get Epstein-Barr? Well, mono came back as Epstein-Barr ration. You could go through a whole sequence of these. So by strengthening the immune system,
is the best way to build immunity to these pathogens. When you weaken the immune system, you start to come up with things like autoimmune disease. If you have an autoimmune condition, for example, let's say Hashimoto's or Crohn's disease or chagrins or any number of autoimmune diseases.
What you're led to believe is you woke up one day and your immune system decided to attack this tissue in the body. So if you have Crohn's disease, for example, you woke up one day and your immune system is manufacturing antibodies to the colon.
Well, why did my immune system just decide to attack the colon? First of all, I think we should take a step back and say, I'm going to assume that God didn't make a mistake. I'm actually going to assume that the immune system is acting properly. And I just need to figure out why is it attacking the colon. I'm not just going to assume that my immune system went haywire one morning and just decided to attack my colon.
or hey, why are one day and decided to type my thyroid, now I have Hashimoto's, or attack my lacrimal gland in my eye, and I've got chagrins. What I'm going to assume is the immune system is there for a reason, and I want to figure out why it's there. And if you look at functional medicine, a lot of functional medicine doctors will tell you, and again, I'm not a physician.
that there is only a single cell layer separating you from your inside world, from your outside world. So your intestinal tract is outside of your body. The tube runs through your body, but it's external to your body. It's actually contiguous with the back of your forearm. You could follow the skin inside your mouth, all the way down and right out the rectum. So what separates you from your outside world is a single layer of cells. One cell layer, if this cell layer is disrupted,
Contents from your God will leak through the gut and they will get into, it's called leaky gut, they will get into an area of the body, outside the lumenal wall of the gut or into the bloodstream where it doesn't belong. And where's your immune system? 70% of our immune system is sitting right outside of our gut. And the reason why 70% of our immune system is sitting right here is because that's where all the action is. And so if you have a leaky gut and you have pathogens and bacteria and contents from the gut leaking into the bloodstream, the immune system shows up.
And when something hides in your, like, just to sort of give you a visual, if this is a heavy metal or a virus or a pathogen, okay? And it's gonna hide, right? And it leaks out of your gut. And this is a healthy cell. It doesn't park itself next to the cell like this. It parks itself right there. It hides inside the cell. So what happens when you have these contents move into a cell? The immune system is chasing that.
Right? Now it's inside the cell, so what does it do? It manufactures an antibody to that cell. Not to kill the cell, but to get to that.
Right? So if you help the body find this, the heavy metal, the molds for it, the microtoxin, the virus, the bacteria, and you support the immune system and seal and heal the gut, you see very often these autoimmune diseases that people are diagnosed with, where they're put on immunosuppressants, and they're put on massive amounts of corticosteroids or steroid anion flammatories, is because we're holding the immune system responsible for a crime it didn't commit.
it's actually they're acting in your best interest and we're suppressing it. So in Crohn's disease, and I'm not saying this for all Crohn's disease, I don't know why I just picked that one, but you interrupt the integrity of the gut, pathogens leak out, the immune system attacks them, and now you've got an autoimmune disease.
Instead of saying, hey, listen, why don't we do the viral testing, the bacterial testing? Why don't we actually heal and seal and fix your gut? And we know now, for example, that the gut is the gateway. We even call it our second brain. And the reason why we call it our second brain is because our mood and our emotional state, our focus, our concentration, our awareness, our alertness,
These are controlled, amongst other things, by neurotransmitters in our brain, the majority of which are made in our gut. For decades, we followed something called the serotonin hypothesis of depression. The serotonin hypothesis of depression, which was the widely dominant hypothesis and depression, was if you are low on serotonin, you are by definition depressed. If the definition of depression is low serotonin, then why isn't the fix to raise serotonin?
Right? Because that's not what we do. For most people that are depressed, we put them on selective serotonin and we have to take inhibitors. We put them on SSRIs. And SSRIs, for lack of better words, they bind to a receptor in the brain. They slow the uptake of serotonin. So basically, they're rationing what little serotonin you have. So it's a form of rationing.
So, because it's not allowing the brain to uptake it. And the theory is, well, if you don't use it too fast, you don't go off a cliff, right? But if we just took a step back and said, well, where's serotonin come from? Well, 90% of the serotonin in our bodies is right here. If you don't have it here, you can't have it here.
So is it possible that depression actually begins here rather than in our outside environment? Interesting. Right? And so if 90% of the serotonin, which by the way travels up the vagus nerve, goes into the brain, creates mood, creates emotion. If you said to me, what's a mood? What's an emotional state? I would tell you it's a collection of neurotransmitters. If you're deficient in a neurotransmitter,
You can't manufacture a mood. And now you have a mood disorder. You have a mental illness. You don't have a mental illness. You have a deficiency.
Right? If I went to anybody listening to this podcast right now, just magically sucked the dopamine out of their body or sucked the serotonin neurotransmitter out of their body. Any mood that required that neurotransmitter, they couldn't manufacture. Well, they would be told that they had a mental illness or they had a mental disease or they had a mood disorder. The truth is they have a deficiency. Why wouldn't we look to fix the gut to restore the serotonin?
so that the brain is at a quit level so you can express normal mood. Instead of just slotting people into these categories and saying, you're mentally ill, you're mentally unstable, you have a mood disorder, as soon as you say that to somebody, they accept that. And now they accept that they need to be on a lifetime of medication because something's wrong with their brain or something has happened to them that they can't control. And people are walking around suffering from anxiety, from depression. No one even tells them what it is.
You know, I bet there's a vast percentage of your listeners that at some point in their life, they're either are suffering from or they know somebody who's suffering from severe anxiety. And I bet they don't have never even told what it is. You ask most,
practitioners, most physicians, what's anxiety? They're going to tell you that they're going to tell you the characteristics of it. It's a sensation of fear without the presence of fear. It's the sensation of impending doom without there actually being a threat. I'm taking a scenario in the future to worst case scenario when that scenario has never happened. Well, those are all the characteristics of it. The truth is
Anxiety, at its genesis, is a rise in a class of neurotransmitters called catacolamines, which creates a fight-or-flight-like response. So if you were able to regulate catacolamines, you wouldn't feel fear. If you ask most people that suffer from anxiety, three questions, you'll find out very quickly that it's a deficiency and not coming from their outside environment. If you know someone that's suffering from anxiety and you say, have you had it on and off throughout your entire lifetime, they'll say yes.
If you say, can you point to the specific trigger that causes it? They'll say, no, I can be sitting in a podcast right now with Sean Ryan and I can just all of a sudden be overwhelmed by anxiety. And number three, if you say, well, if you've tried anti-anxiety medications, did they work? They'll say, no, they made me feel like a zombie.
You get those questions. You know that it's not coming from the outside environment. It's coming from right here. Wow. Wow. So real quick, just rewinding. What advice do you have for parents like me on vaccinations? I'm going to put a link because it's going to be too much to go on here. I'm going to put a link to a vaccine schedule, a book that was written by, in my opinion, one of the top MDs, PhDs in the world on what are the viable vaccines and what are the ones to avoid. So you just take his
opinion and he's got all the research and all the side of things and let's just put it in the show notes so you're all all the families can do you know the name of the book on your head um it's it's um it's either called born immune I think it's called born immune
It's either born immune or born immunity. But I'm gonna put the link in. It's excellent. And it's all evidence-based and it's not fear-mongering. And it gives you the actual statistical variables like you have a point, you have up. Like if you get this vaccination, your son or daughter has a higher chance of dying in a motor vehicle accident on the way to school than they do of dying from this pathogen. So you decide if you want to vaccinate against it or not. I mean, because some of the things that we're vaccinating again are statistically completely irrelevant.
Right? You have a near zero risk. We don't vaccinate against near zero risks. There's a risk every time you put your child in the car and go to the grocery store, there's a risk. Every time you go to a commercial airplane, there's a risk. It's a quantifiable risk. But we should apply the same kind of just common sense standard to vaccination.
Another question, follow-up question. A lot of people took the COVID vaccine. A lot of people were breathtaking the COVID vaccine. I can't even believe I'm admitting this. I took the COVID vaccine. I was worried. My son was about to be born, hospital rules. I was like, there is no way in hell I'm gonna miss the birth of my son. So I took it because I was worried they were required and I would miss the birth of my son.
With all the other shit I've done in my life, I want him to the drums and all that stuff on your podcast. I was like, well, if that didn't kill me, this isn't going to fucking kill me. And I don't feel like I have any side effects. And most people don't. If you got one or two and didn't go down the sequence of boosters, it's very likely that you're fine, but I can tell you what you can do. So what I want to ask, is there
Sorry we're bursting that. Is there anything that people can do? I've heard a lot about this. Actually, I'm going to go do plasma exchange. Is there anything people can do to clean their blood or clean their system out with?
with prior vaccinations. Yeah, so they're less expensive versions and then are very expensive versions. Plasma exchange is expensive. That's called therapeutic plasma exchange or total plasma exchange and essentially what they do there. And I've had it done, it feels amazing by the way. As they pull your blood out, they run it through a machine, they separate your plasma.
from your whole blood, and they actually take your plasma out and they replace it with sterile albumin. And so you actually replace the plasma with albumin, which is a sterile fluid that's safe to replace your plasma with. Because in your plasma, aside from platelets and other things, are molds, bores, microtoxins, if you have viral pathogens, heavy metals, glyphosate, you'll find microplastics, and also spike protein.
So there are lots of things in your plasma that kind of hang out in the plasma that can be prone, flamatory, and cause consequences down the road. And by exchanging the plasma, the theory is that you can get rid of a lot of those consequences.
There is also Dr. McCullough formulated an over-the-counter capsule that has adokine, bromeline, and thymulin in it, which are very safe, and these are ways of buying spike protein and carrying it out of the body. You can actually see urinary spike protein levels drop after taking these, and they're inexpensive.
They're regular over the counter and there are formulations for spike protein detox. You can even Google spike protein detox and you'll find ones with natto kinase, bromoline and the thymulin. Those are the higher qualities by protein detoxifications. You can do pre and post urine spike protein analyses and you can actually see that you've reduced it.
If you have severe long-hauler COVID syndrome, and this is not FDA approved, but I've seen the clinical evidence on it, there are clinics outside the United States, some in Tijuana, other parts of the world, where you can do a blood filtration, which is similar to
very similar to dialysis, right, where you take blood out of one side of the body, you put it back in the other body, and it either runs through carbon filtration or heparin binding filters or other types of filters, and then it puts the plasma and blood back into the body, and it actually can pull certain.
toxic chemicals out. So there's plasma exchange, which I've done. There's blood filtration, which you do generally outside of the United States, which I have not done yet, but I'm doing it in December, just for general longevity purposes. And then there are over-the-counter spike protein detox you can take with the natokinesse, the bromiline, the thymulin. Wow. Thank you, Gary. You're awesome. On that note, let's take a quick break.
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You are blowing my mind here with all this information. Let's switch gears a little bit. You know, you brought up something about evolution at the very beginning. We're kind of talking about faith. And so I want you to dive into a little bit about evolution. I've never covered this. And so I would love to hear what you have to say about that.
Well, I'm not a believer in evolution at all. And I have a faith-based background. I actually
was raised Roman Catholic and oddly made to. Were you really? I was. This was the worst. I'll be honest with you. I hated church when I was a kid. Stand up, sit down, kneel, shake hands. Half of our mass was in Latin. But my dad always made me like put on a suit coat, you know, as a little kid and go to church. So I got pretty far away from the church and like high school and college.
But in grad school, an attorney of mine brought me to a promise keeper's convention. There used to be a Christian mensma. I might still be around. I don't hear much about it anymore. But there was a huge Christian mensma movement called Promise Keepers. And they were hosting an event at Soldier Field. This was in 1994. Why did he bring you?
Was there something going on? No, he just thought that, you know, he thought like every young man was kind of searching and, you know, I was in grad school. I was at National College of Chiropractic and I was getting my human biology degree. But I think I was probably like every other grad school kid. I was partying and, you know, going out and was particularly responsible. And I had actually just started dating my first wife. And,
He was my attorney for, actually for a car accident. I got rear-ended toe in a boat on the highway. And we actually struck up a really good friendship. He was a really good guy. He's kind of a mentor to me. And he convinced me that there was like this motivational speaker's event happening in Soldier Field. And he invited it to me and invited me to it. And it turned out to be a promise keeper's convention.
And it was this Christian men's movement and I'll never forget, like we were standing in soldier field and 70,000 men joined hands and started to say the Lord's prayer. And I knew the Lord's prayer because I was raised here on the Catholic and something happened to me. I mean, first of all, I had this just overwhelming sensation that 70,000 men couldn't be wrong.
Like, it went from feeling very odd to feeling like very right. And then for some reason, I just broke down and just started like bawling uncontrollably. And it wasn't sad. I don't know. I mean, you know, now I think that was the Holy Spirit, but I just started crying uncontrollably and he was calling people down to the stage to give their life to Christ. And it was like gratitude.
I think it was gratitude, but I think it was also like a sense of relief. No, because I remember leaving there thinking everything I thought about my upbringing in the church, because the church that I went to, and this is not, you know, this is no condemnation of it, but it just made you feel like a sinner a lot. You know, some of the Mass was in Latin, the priest was
much older, I felt very narrow-minded. And I was like, every time I left church, I felt bad about myself. And this movement, this march was like, you can have a direct relationship with Christ. You can lay your problems at the foot of the cross. You don't need all of this superfluous surroundings. You don't need a church or an institution or a group of people. I mean, you can get on your knees and just have a direct relationship with Christ.
And that to me seemed liberating. And I'd like the idea of faith because it's the idea of delayed gratification. And I think that's dramatically missing in this world. Me too. Because everybody's into the instant gratification and the idea that we're all heading to a better place and that there is a higher purpose.
So I gave my life to Christ, and I won't say that I've been the best Christian ever since 1994. I've definitely done some non-Christian things, but that to me has been very liberating. I wake up every day now, and I go outside, I do my breath work, I do some sunlight, and I always just take a minute to thank God and just say, hey, listen, I'm not here to ask for anything. I'm just here to say thank you, because I feel for the first time that
He guys revealed his purpose to me, and I feel like my passion and my purpose, you know, my career, my calling is all kind of aligned itself. And it takes away a lot of the fears. I think Christianity, if you realize that, if you want to shrink your problems, you just grow your purpose.
And so it's helped me grow my purpose. And so the friction in my life has seemed so much easier to deal with. Wow. And I'm not any more registered than anybody else, but I feel such a level of conviction now with my messaging. And I've had...
the partnerships in the past, not certainly not all my partners fault, a lot of it my fault, but I just know now that my purpose on this earth is to get this message to the masses. Well, it's working.
Thank you. It's working. And I just, you know, we haven't really covered this because, you know, I don't really know where to put it. And I don't know how much you want to talk about it. But when we talk about, you know, when we're talking, you know, friendly business, how I do things, how you do things. And when I hear, you know, you talk about you've walked away from businesses, you've turned advertising deals down, you have, you know, you only
you only talk about what you believe in, whether you're being paid in or not. You just mentioned a lot of the things that you're shouting out, pretty much all of them that we've spoken about.
you get nothing out of. And I think it takes a very authentic person to do that. And we share a lot of the same values. And there's not a lot of people out there that share those same values. And it's really cool to see.
I keep bringing up the you could think because that's my yeah, that's my latest thing that I'm really excited about that I would you know love to be in some type of thing but I don't care you know because it's like I mentioned I do believe that you know
It all comes back around. And if you inject good into this world, then it's going to come back around to you some other way, somehow some other way. And I think that's important, you know, for people to, I know it happens to me. And whether it's, it's, you know, one of the things that I really like doing on this podcast is being able to, I mean, this is how it started because I couldn't, couldn't reach people like you or,
You know, people that have made a big name for themselves and I've always rooted for the underdog. So I'll find the guy that's, you know, like we were talking about Tyler Andrew Vargas with his knife company and, you know, to bring his story out and then display what he's doing now to give him a fucking jet launch into the business world. I mean, I get nothing out of that. Yeah. I mean, I get a friendship and in a new connection. I love Tyler.
I wish the best for that dude, and I keep in touch with him, but that comes back around. And you do that too, and that's just really fucking cool to see man. Thank you. I wish more people knew that about you. Yeah, when I first
I found it a wellness clinic with my now wife, girlfriend, in 2017. It did very well for itself in 2021. We sold it and took on some partners and took on a minority stake. We just recently exited that.
And then I started a media platform and the reason why I started the podcast was because I didn't want the message to be controlled. I wanted to very often give without the expectation of receipt, but I also don't want to create the illusion that I'm just running a philanthropy. I've done very well for myself financially. I mean, God's been very, very good to me.
but also the messaging is not about any one product or any one service or wearing a certain t-shirt or only messaging about this is the sole and only path to a state of optimal health or to solve your problems and it happens to be through my supplement or my testing or
you know, only through my clinics. There's so many people out there that are doing incredible work. Like my heroes are the PhDs and the MDs and the researchers and the scientists that are actually really making an impact. And one of the things I decided was I want to build a podcast, a media platform to find the best products, the best services, the best people and try to give them a voice. And unfortunately, that's sometimes conflicts with your other
you know, business endeavors because it may not be the supplement that you manufacture or the test that you require your clients to do. And I think that gets very myopic, right? And when you say there's only one way to optimal health, and it's through my company, through my supplement, through my testing through
You know, there's, there are so many people that are doing amazing things for this world. Some of them I have financial relationships with, like Echo water bottles and, and perfect aminos and Baja gold sea salt, but I believe deeply in those companies. And then others that I find that deserve a voice that I get no financial.
reward from of any kind. I mean, half the brands that I've shouted out on the podcast so far, I have no relationship with at all. They thank me all the time. I get tons of stuff to the house, but other than that, and it's because I wish more of a thought about that because the tide raises all the boats. And I think that we've been given a gift.
in my industry, the wellness, functional medicine space, longevity, whatever you want to call it. And I think that post pandemic, there's such a distrust of the global elites. And people realize that, you know what, maybe our government and the elites don't have our best interests at heart. And I need to take this decision. I need to take optimal health into my own hands. I need to become my own citizen scientists. But the question is, where do they go from messaging? If you get on the internet,
you'll get paralysis of analysis. One person tells you that eggs are going to kill you, the next person tells you you've got to be eggs every day. One person tells you that carnivore dies to be all end all, and the next person tells you it's the fastest way to get cardiovascular disease. So what I'm trying to do is sift through the noise and be as authentic about that messaging as possible. And a lot of that, there's no way to monetize. But I think that
Again, that's how I know that I'm on God's purpose because this information does not belong to me, right? It belongs to humanity. I'm just sort of blessed enough to have it flow through me. And you're a conduit. Yeah, just a conduit, right? I'm not, I'm not. I didn't come up with it. You know, it's, it's, I don't have anything special. It's just, you know, but it, but it very often flows through me. And, you know, like I made a couple of,
public announcements on Instagram the other day. It's still on my Instagram. My wife and I sat for three days, almost in tears, because of the thousands, and they're still up on my Instagram, the thousands and thousands of messages we got from people whose lives had changed.
And we didn't know who they were. We had no direct contact with them. We'd never benefited from anything we'd done. Just the message hit them at the right time. And they either started doing breath work or sunlight or grounding or cold plunging or eating whole foods or they got on some of the supplements that I recommended. They stopped believing that they had autoimmune disease or mental illness or on a psychiatric disorder. And they actually started focusing on their gut. And their life completely changed. They're like, I don't have chronic disease anymore.
I finally started to hack my sleep. I don't have the mental illness. Anxiety's going down to 85%. We're able to conceive now because I talk a lot about folic acid and the right supplements that young women are trying to get pregnant on, trying to conceive. Because miscarriages, especially in young females, are highly linked to a gene mutation called MTHFR.
affectionately called the motherfucker gene, but it stands for methylene tetrahydrofolate reductase. About 44% of the population has this gene mutation. The first thing that women are told when they get pregnant is to take high doses of folic acid.
And most women don't realize that folic acid is not a natural compound. We've been told it's vitamin B9, it's not. We make folic acid in a laboratory. Folic acid doesn't occur anywhere naturally in nature. You can't find folic acid anywhere on the surface of the earth, yet it's necessary to have a healthy pregnancy because it reduces neural tube defects. That's actually not true. Folic acid doesn't reduce anything. Folic acid has to be converted by the body into the usable form called methyl folate.
in order to prevent a neural tube defect, in order to not have the cell go into something called S-phase arrest. So what happens is, if 44% of the population has a genetic mutation called MTHFR, where they can't process this full of acid, and by the way, I'll put the link to the clinical study that supports what I'm about to say because I get a lot of flac from this too.
When you take a synthetic compound that didn't even exist until 1993, and you make it a requirement to have a healthy pregnancy, what you're doing is you're assuming that the body would have a deficiency in folic acid, which can't. No one can have a deficiency in folic acid. You can have a deficiency in folate. You can't to be deficient in a synthetic nutrient. And you pump the population full of this folic acid. If you don't have the gene mutation,
you can create the raw material the body needs, called methifoli. If you do have the gene mutation, then all the folic acid in the world doesn't matter, because your body can't create the usable form of that nutrient. And when you can't create the usable form of that nutrient,
When your DNA is replicating, it goes into something called S-phase arrest, which is essentially where it stops the replicating at that level. And what are the consequences of that? Well, if you look at what this gene mutation, which essentially results in a deficiency in methyl folate, causes, it causes the intestinal motility to slow down. So these people have gas, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, irritability, and cramping.
And then they start going down all the usual roads. They start going and getting food sensitivity testing and food allergy testing. And yet nothing works. They eat the same thing on Monday and they're fine. They eat the exact same thing on Wednesday and they blow up like a tick.
And they're like, well, this doesn't make any sense. I ate the exact same food Monday morning, and I was fine. I ate it again on Wednesday, and now I'm blowing up like a tick. So right there, it should tell you that you don't have an allergy, right? Because allergies are consistent. They're not transient, right? People are not allergic to milk on Monday, on a allergic on Wednesday afternoon, and a re-allergic on Saturday morning.
Allergies are very easy to spot. There's no adult listening to this podcast right now that has a shellfish allergy that doesn't know it, right? You don't make it to adulthood and not know that you have this allergy. So what we feel to realize is very often a nutrient deficiency, specifically methyl folate,
because your body can't break down public acid. This nutrient deficiency can interrupt the pace of the gut, the peristaltic activity of the gut. So what happens when you interrupt that peristaltic activity in the gut? Gas, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, irritability, cramping.
Well, what else happens? Well, this is where neurotransmitters are manufactured. This is why, to this day, in nine years of being in this industry intensely, I've never met a patient that tells me they suffer from severe anxiety that does not also have gut issues, not once. Because the anxiety is not coming from the outside environment, it's coming from the gut.
And so, and these poor people go down the road of food sensitivity, food allergy testing, they go on a carnivore diet, they go on keto, paleo, what have you. Sometimes carnivore will solve it because they happen to get to the methyl folate. And when you realize that these are just nutrient deficiencies, and so women, for example, that become pregnant and take high doses of this folic acid,
They all of a sudden, they can process fullic acid. So they're taking the fullic acid because their doctor tells them to take it to prevent a neural tube defect. So like a good mother, they take it. And then they don't realize that they can't convert it. So it's actually not preventing the neural tube defect and helping the fetus the way they want it to. And this high amounts of fullic acid rise in their blood and it causes all kinds of psychiatric conditions, including postpartum depression, which begins during pregnancy, even though it's called postpartum depression.
And eventually what happens to a lot of these women is their pregnancy ends, they stop taking their prenatal vitamin and their symptoms go away. So they blame it on the pregnancy, not on the vitamin. And so one of the messages that I really try to get out there is that if you have
ADD, ADHD, OCD, focus and concentration problems, or your kids have behavioral issues, or they have issues with focused concentration, completing assignments, paying attention, not being disruptive in class. For one week, get the folic acid out of their diet.
Get them on a kid's multivitamin that has methyl folate. Just do this for one week. And you tell me if you don't have a completely different child in the house. The reason for this is 44% of the population, including children, have this gene mutation.
where they can't process folic acid. Well, where do we find folic acid? Well, in the United States, which is what's really screwed up about our chemical and food industry, in the United States by law, all white flour, white rice, bread, pasta, cereals, grains of any kind are sprayed with the chemical folic acid.
It's not called sprayed with folic acid, it's called fortified or enriched. So when you spin a box of crackers around or you see flour or breads or pastas or cereals or grains, and it says enriched bleach white flour, fortified whole wheat, fortified or enriched grains, fortified cereal and rich cereal, that means it's been sprayed with folic acid.
which 44% of the population can't process. You take a little child that has this gene mutation, which 44% of them do, and what do we feed them in the morning for breakfast? White bagels, full of folic acid, cereal, full of folic acid, pop tarts, full of folic acid, any of these things. And you dump.
1800% of the daily allowance of fullic acid into that little body. It's a full contact sport to get that kid in the car to go to school in the morning. And when they get to school, the call comes home and it says he little Johnny can't pay attention. He's disruptive. He doesn't follow instructions. He doesn't complete assignments. We need to bring in the riddle and to solve this.
And that's where the hamster wheel starts. If you just got the folic acid, the synthetic compound that does not occur naturally in nature and gave them methyl folate as a supplement and just got the fortified or enriched foods out of their diet for a week, you have a very often have a completely different. Wow.
And there's so many people that are dealing with this. You know, these kids that are, I mean, the rates of not just autism, which have gone from one in 5,000 to one in 32 in the last 40 years, the rates of attention deficit disorder.
or on a national parabolic tear. I mean, you want to talk about a pandemic. But no one really tells you that attention deficit disorder is not even a deficit of attention. Attention deficit disorder is not an inability to pay attention. It's actually an attention overload disorder. It's too many windows open at the same time.
Right? So people that have ADD or ADHD don't lack the ability to pay attention. They lack the ability to pay attention to so many things. So why is it that you're opening windows faster than you're closing them? The reason is that in the human mind, we don't just create thought. We also dismantle thought. We break thought down. We break down emotion. We break down mood. We break down thought.
If you degrade thought at a slower rate than you create it, then the mind becomes very clouded. You're thinking about a job you're working on, let's say. You're thinking about a job you're working on and your friend walks up. And now you're thinking about a job you start talking to your friend. And you notice a logo on your friend's jacket that reminds you of a vacation you want to take.
So now you're thinking about a job, looking at the logo, talking to your friend, thinking about a vacation you want to take, like all at the same time. And then your friend says something to you and you're like, not with it. You know, like, you know, hey, you're there. What's happening is you're creating thought at a faster rate than you're breaking it down. Very often stimulated by folic acid and driven by a lack of methylfolate.
And so, when you put these compounds back in the body, very often, thought process returns to normal, right? In other words, the degradation of thought returns to normal, and you start sequencing thought normally. Because you didn't have an attention deficit disorder, you had an attention overload disorder. You are opening too many windows at the same time. Modern medicine says, hey, if the mind's racing,
If you're opening all these windows, so the mind's racing, let's put an amphetamine into the body to race the central nervous system to match the pace of the mind. That's what Vyvan's Adderall and Ritalin are. They're basically glorified amphetamines. So now you're taking the central nervous system, which is not broken, and you're breaking it to match the system that is broken, which is a terrible idea.
It's like getting a flat tire and then getting out of your car and slashing your other three tires to create equilibrium. So, one of the messages, I don't even know how we got on this path, I'm like way down the road. We were talking about faith. We were talking about faith. Ben, do you turn somewhere? I'm sorry. I'm going to bring you back. Hey, we met them fully, guys. We met them fully. Get the full of gas out of your diet. Wow.
I'm glad we covered that. I'm glad we are too, because I mean, that's really, you got moms and dads listening to this podcast that have little kids that have those issues.
I have those issues. I grew up taking Adderall, I'm adrenaline. Still took it all the way up to psychedelics and stopped it. But I do have too many windows open. Most people do. It's never been explained to me like that. We got a degrade thought. Same thing happens to people with sleep issues. We're going to get into your labs in a second. And I'm going to explain why people that are the most exhausted, why they sleep the worst.
because you think it would be the opposite, right? And you think that people that are really exhausted, the only thing they do well is sleep. But actually the people that are the most exhausted sleep the worst, and I'm gonna point out what they need to look at in the labs to fix that. But the majority of people that are listening to this podcast right now that have really poor sleep patterns or have just a really tough time sleeping. The reason why they have a tough time sleeping is because when they lay down to go to sleep and their body tired,
Their mind is awake. If you ask them, they will tell you, I'm not sleeping because my mind is awake. Not because I'm not tired.
So what happens is as their environment quiets, their mind wakes up. So why does your mind wake up at night when there's no stimulus? It's because there's a category of neurotransmitters in our brain called catacolamines. Okay, these are fight or flight neurotransmitters, dopamine, norepinephrine, fed drone, adrenaline. When these neurotransmitters start to rise, what they do is they create a vacant state.
If they continue to rise, you'll feel anxious. If they rise further, you'll feel anxiety. If they continue to rise, you can have paranoia's or even a full-blown panic attack. So if we realize that as a certain class of neurotransmitters rises, our mind enters a vacant state.
And if we realize that if we don't have the right raw material in our body, specifically the right complex of B vitamins, methyl folate of a form of B12 called methyl cobalamin, which is just a form of the light metal B12.
And what happens is we have a difficult time breaking these neurotransmitters down, quieting these neurotransmitters. So at night, our mind wakes up. And what we'll do is we'll ruminate on the most innocuous little shit. You will lay there just thinking, did I get everything on my grocery list? Did my bell match my shoes? Should I have a Thanksgiving Day party with my family? You'll just ruminate on the most
nonsensical things and it will just eat away at your sleep for hours and people get frustrated because they realize I'm exhausted but I can't fall asleep. As soon as you put the right raw materials back into the human body, methylated nutrients, very often their mites aren't just starts to quiet down at night and they don't have to tranquilize themselves to go to sleep.
And so, a lot of the conditions that we accept as a consequence of aging, or, you know, little Johnny's just got attention deficit disorder, but everybody's got attention deficit disorder. You know, I have a hard time falling asleep, but I'm, you know, I'm in my 40s and I got three kids and I shouldn't fall asleep, but none of that is true. These are not consequences of aging. They're consequences of missing raw material in our bodies. And these raw materials are very easy to put back in.
So back to faith, sorry. No, that's, that's, I struggle with all these. Yeah. I struggle with all these. So do a lot of your listening. Oh, yeah. So, I mean, one, I have one of the biggest veteran audiences in the world, in the country. So we all struggle with sleep. So that was super informative. And, you know, the challenge was sleep very often. And I want to get into it in your labs because I think we can solve this issue for a lot of your listeners.
Number one, they should be looking at taking methylated vitamins, taking methyl folate at night, taking magnesium at night, the light metals that create the deficiency that make it hard to quiet the mind.
The second thing they ought to really think about is getting their blood worked on and getting some data and looking at their hormone levels in men very specifically testosterone because it's very hard for most physicians to link deficiencies in a hormone like testosterone to poor sleep patterns. What happens is testosterone
Let me get, we talk about this further with your labs with testosterone. One of its primary roles is actually not male characteristics. This is why women are afraid of testosterone therapy because they think it leads to facial hair and aggression and big muscles and a deep voice. And that's actually not true. One of the primary roles of the hormone testosterone in men and women is to actually put pressure on the bone marrow to create new red blood cells. So this is called urethra poiesis, right? Production of new red blood cells.
Same thing happens when you go to altitude, for example. So let's say you have low testosterone.
and you have low production of red blood cells. You don't have anemia, but you have a very low red blood cell count. So what does this mean? You have very few vehicles in your blood to transport oxygen. And this hides in plain sight. So people that have sleep issues or energy issues should listen really closely because you'll go get your blood work done by a physician and there's a range for red blood cells. So it will be within range, but you'll be down in the bottom 10 percentile.
Then there's a second thing on your labs called hemoglobin, which is kind of like the fluid in the red blood cell, tells you how much hemoglobin is in that cell. And that's in the bottom 10 or 15 percentile. They're in the normal range. What happens when I start to delete red blood cells from the bloodstream, and when I start to drain them of hemoglobin, and I'm oversimplifying this for a moment, is I have less fluid to carry oxygen
And what's the result of that? I'm tired. I'm tired because I'm hypoxic. And I'm hypoxic because I'm low on red blood cells. And I'm low on red blood cells very often because I'm deficient in the hormone testosterone. And so when somebody says they're low on energy, if you convert that statement to physiology, they're almost saying, I'm low on red blood cells. I'm low in hemoglobin.
maybe because I'm low on testosterone, which is why I really believe that people should get hormone panels done. And not everybody needs to be on testosterone. There are lots of ways to raise it without taking the hormone. My point is now if you're tired all the time, right? Because your blood doesn't carry oxygen well. Well, what happens when you go to sleep?
you lay down to go to sleep, your respiratory rate gets very shallow, right? You take shallow breaths. So the oxygen level in your blood drops, your blood's already poor at carrying oxygen. So now as your respiratory rate drops and the blood oxygen level drops, you're marginally suffocating. And so what happens is as you start to get into a deep sleep, your brain wakes you up. You will pulse cortisol
at night to keep your body out of a deep sleep because your brain is keeping you from suffocating. Then people do the worst thing. Instead of fixing their hormone and raising their red blood cell count, they actually go to their doctor and say, Doc, I can't sleep. The doc gives them Zolopietum nitrate, diazepam, Xanax, you know, maybe Lesta, Ambien, whatever it is. What a lot of these drugs do is they essentially blindfold the brain's view of blood oxygen.
And it allows you to get into a sleep because your brain won't wake you up. But then you wake up in the morning and go, man, I hate taking Tylenol PM because it's just it's still in my system the next morning. Or when I wake up from ambient, I'm really groggy and I'm foggy. That medication has been out of your system for hours. You are feeling the effects of having suffocated for six hours.
That's why you're groggy. That's why you can't focus. That's why you're sore and stiff and achy. Wow. So, if you went back and fixed the hormones very often, you would fix the signal to the bone marrow. You would fix the red blood cell count, which would fix the oxygen transport, which would not only give you more energy, but it would deepen your sleep. Fascinating. Yeah. Makes a hell of a lot of sense. You got a great way of breaking things down. Thanks. You really do. Yeah. Even for somebody like me. Thanks.
But I would love to hear your disprove evolution. Can we do that? Well, the main issue with evolution is the following.
The main issue with evolution is we have taken enormous scientific leaps in the fossil records, right? So if evolution is true, then you find single-celled or multi-celled organisms, right? And you go from single-celled or two-celled organisms to four-celled, to eight-celled, to 16-celled, you go through a progressive
evolution, if you will, of these organisms evolving into an increasingly more being-like creature. So, evolution says basically that some bacteria got together in a mud puddle.
And they made it, and we went from single-celled organisms to multi-celled organisms to quadracellular, to hexicellular, to multicellular. And then these organisms began to form into
systems that created organ systems, and then you basically had what is a rudimentary non-air breathing organism that was in the water to an organism that had gills, and then those gills moved out onto land, and then they started to breathe oxygen, and then this whole lineage of species evolved from this. The problem is there's zero evidence of that.
The problem is you have these single-celled organisms and multi-celled organisms, and then there's just a giant gap in the fossil record, and you have animals, and then you have man.
But we don't have a fossil record that takes us from single and multi-celled organisms into an entire species. And we just simply ignore that. Wow, I didn't know that. We ignore the science that would validate that evolution was, and two, for me,
When I really studied the human body, and by the way, we have barely scratched the surface of understanding this thing that God created, it is fascinating in its ability. Modern medicine will say, well, that was a miracle cure.
It's not a miracle cure. It's when people are miraculously cured from things, it's because they figured out the deficiency or they figured out that we're an entire being. We've lost faith in the ability that this has over this. The medicine treats our mental health and our physical health almost as separate creatures.
you destroy somebody's gut health, their mental health will follow. You will not have, again, I've never met a patient that suffers from anxiety that didn't have gut issues. So what I'm saying is you have this perfectly beautiful organism. You have these communities of trillions of cells
God gave us everything that we need to thrive, everything that we need to thrive. The best research that is being done on the surface of Mother Earth right now is being done on the basics that God gave us, magnetism from the Earth, oxygen from the air, light from the sun.
whole foods, minerals from like that you would get if you scooped water out of a flowing stream, grounding by discharging into the earth and changing the polarity of your body, repolarizing the surface of your blood cells, learning to actually allow sunlight into your eyes and to touch your skin. We're very photovoltaic beings. And so what happens when we start to disconnect from other nature? What happens when we start to disconnect from what God gave us and replace it with what man made us?